Eu achei lindo o vídeo e estou doido pra ver esse filme, mas eu gostei mais do MacNeil de Scarpia. Pq o Milnes é sedutor, e o Scarpia pra mim eu vejo como alguém rabugento e frustrado, que satisfaz o seu desejo na violência e não no charme. Então só por esse motivo, pelo Milnes ser charmoso, eu prefiro o Scarpia do MacNeil. Mas como cantor e ator, o Milnes é muito melhor, obviamente
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@@Joao-zw7iq Meu favorito depois do Milnes é Ettore Bastianini, já ouviste?
Quite, what he is singing, mixed with the organ and the words from the homily. It accentuates the profane so well, bringing forth his evilness. This is awesome stuff.
@@huldrrrr9486 Yes, Puccini really outdid Tchaikovsky here- 1812 is still awesome and fun, but Puccini's cannon's here actually makes things ambiguous yet scary here!
Milnes is one of the best Scarpias I've heard, his performance is wonderful, he is one of my favorite baritones, he sure mastered his craft. I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶r̶e̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶a̶b̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶
Scusate. Nessuno mi dà brividi profondi come questo: th-cam.com/video/aLAgumn1hMI/w-d-xo.html Voce, recitazione, intenzioni, trasporto interiore, desiderio, blasfemia, fermezza, mimica, autorità. Un gigante ! 👍 Forse Gobbi, per presenza, se avesse avuto la voce... 😉
I’m of the opinion that refined and seductive while being an absolute monster in private is the correct way to play scarpia, he is a baron and an important one at that he would have to keep up at least the facade of respectability, Milnes captures the suppressed evil perfectly.
He broke the mold for this part - a virile younger and attractive villain. Saw it in person at the Met, absolutely thrilling. This is the scene that got me interested in opera 50 years ago.
I heard Sherrill Milnes sing Scarpia at Lyric Opera in the mid-90's, I think. It was one of the last times that he appeared in Chicago. He sings the hell out of this role, but he's also a first-rate actor. He walks like Scarpia! What a vocal range he had, too! It's one of my best opera memories.
I'm so sorry this style of presentation never took hold: the opera in the style of a movie. Ever since I discovered Opera I've grown to love it, but it's A LOT of people don't enjoy it. Pretty much everyone my age while I was discovering didn't like it at all. I feel like making this movies can help a lot in that regard, making the presentation stand out immensely. I hope we can see more of these productions.
Saw him in concert in the 70's. Fantastic. Not only great voice, but interpretations so vivid, I knew what he meant eve in those arias unfamiliar to me. He ended by cooling us down with an almost celestial version of Shenandoah, so soft and subtle.
May one also point out Sherrill Milnes’....sheer personal magnetism here? Small point, compared to those made below; but in modern times, no small attribute for a performer. And oh yes, the voice, the carriage, etc.......
uno stupendo Scarpia dalla voce che rivela quanto questo personaggio, bigotto e nero dentro l'anima, trami usando calunnie, per ottenere il suo esclusivo piacere. egli non possiede nell'anima un minimo di considerazione per i sentimenti di chi lo circonda. orribile personaggio interpretato da Sherrill Milnes. con grande sapienza , arte e una stupenda voce!!
Una delle migliori interpretazioni di Scarpia! Davvero fantastico !!!! Molto coinvolgente ed emozionante, perfettamente calato nel ruolo . Molto bella la regia, orchestra e coro bravissimi !!!
Lucrezia Borgia viva lo stereo ! viva il pop moderno ! dal vivo era un'altra cosa ... ahahahahahahahahahahahahah ! sovente una registrazione e' una illusione dolce ...
I saw this comment a little bit late... but I just saw this scene in my Opera class this week, and I can really say that it is one of my favorite opera scenes of all time! I don't know why, but this singer is just... great! The greatest Scarpia ever like you stated. :)
Now this is the sound a Scarpia requires. Milnes was unequalled when he was on his stuff. T. Hampson can only dream of ever having sounded like this - this is a lyric baritone with a strong dramatic content. I generally think Scarpia is best for a real bass baritone - but Milnes is great here. I heard him do this in Munich. Also a great stage presence.
We shared a train compartment with him from Civitavecchia to Rome, and he told a lot of stories and shared a lot of insights about the filming of Tosca in the real locations. What a special experience. Still can't believe that happened. He's one of the greats of the golden age of opera, which I believe was the 60's and 70's, and his Scarpia is equal to any, ie. Gobbi, et al.
Bravissimo Sherrill Milnes è perfetto per il ruolo: ha il Phisic du Rolex e una voce meravigliosa.. Inoltre è così sexy che rende davvero l idea del diavolo subdolo e attraente. Naturalmente la parte migliore è il Te Deum. Da quando l ho sentita la prima volta (pochi giorni fa) non smetto più di ascoltarla e cantarla. Auguri a tutti per Natale e il nuovo anno
Orfeo Pecci per i sordi e' così . in realtà Milnes dopo i Baritoni d'origine americana tipo Tibbett,Warren, Bonelli,MacNeil,Merrill era un pessimo prodotto americano degno del pop moderno ...
E' stato e rimane uno dei maggiori baritoni del mondo. Pavarotti era poca cosa, Mario del Monaco un dio dell'IOlimpo e M. Bolton un cantantucolo di canzonette, che nulla ha in comune con la lirica.
@@marisarossi6692 parlando dei cantantucol di canzonette Sherrill Milnes era campione del mondo in questa disciplina . ahahahahahahahahahah ! accanto ai Baritoni d'origine americana tipo Tibbett,Bonelli, Warren,Merrill,MacNeil il suo baritenore Milnes dal vivo faceva pallida figura ... e non voglioparlare dei Baritoni Veri d'origine italiana tipo Titta Ruffo , Bastianini e compagnia più di 40 Baritoni Meravigliosi tutti migliori dal baritenore Sherrill Milnes .
Simone Talvela non c'è niente di cantare quando parliamo del personaggio di Scarpia... ma in realtà baritoni come Milnes dal vivo diventano subito ridicoli quando non ci sono dei microfoni e l'aiuto dello stereo... Scarpia = Titta Ruffo,DanisemStracciari,Bellantoni,Reali,Galeffi, Tagliabue,Bastianini,Guelfi,Tibbett,Warren,Merrill,MacNeil,Popov e compagnia . se mi ricordo bene dal vivo Milnes aveva una vocetta di colore più chiaro dei tenori che interpretavano Cavaradossi ...
@@talvela100 carissimo giovane amico, e' ovvio che tu non hai sentito mai dal vivo le voci dei Tenori drammatici degli anni 1950,e' un fatto . cordialità il vecchio
@@talvela100 mai avuto questa fortuna ! dal vivo tra i Baritoni avevo sentito Reali,Guelfi,Ivan Petroff, Ivan Popov,Stoyan Popov, Warren,Merrill,MacNeil e compagnia ... Bastianini era un amico fedele e spesso scriveva delle letterine a una mia amica e collega soprano con la quale abbiamo cantato insieme Rigoletto,Lucia e il Ballo ... il vecchio
What a wonderful and telling effect: The soaring lyrical strings interrupted by the dead thud of the bass drum. (by the way, the bass drum does not usually sound so dead, It must have been slackened to get this amazing and thrilling effect.) Yes, all of Tosca is thrilling but Puccini couldn't resist making the opera even more thrilling with this effect by contrasting the lush compassionate strings with a dead thud of death of the bass drum. Bravo! Puccini was the greatest orchestrator of all time. He has the genius to interrupt an established texture with the greatest of surprises. (Mahler upon hearing Tosca commented--and I paraphrase "what right has he to write an opera when he is nothing more than a good orchestrator"). Do you dare agree with Mahler?
@@MrJsmiley108 You certainly make a good point. I have not seen the score and in some recording, you do seem to hear a cannon fired at the Castello Nuovo. At any rate, a cannon serves the purpose of contrast to the lush compassionate (the deceptive sound of the strings). Thanks for your post. .As we see later, while Scarpia is evil, he can remember the time as a child, perhaps when he had not set his diabolical course. No doubt he reassures himself that he was forced by circumstance to choose the dark force (and perhaps helped along by the devil as well.
This is my favorite portion of Tosca with Scarpia and the chorus. Milnes is magnificent with a powerful stage presence. The disconnect between the solemnity of the church (no doubt, the Pope is saying mass) and Scarpia' s lustful thoughts as he schemes to destroy Tosca' s lover and claim Tosca for himself is jarring. Even he recognizes it when he sings that Tosca has made him forget God.
I enjoyed the voice immensely. It is the staging and direction that I object to. The catholic ritual of a te deum is being performed. That is a hymn of thanksgiving to God. The consecrated host is taken from the altar and presented to the crowd in a monstrance. Catholics believe that Christ is present in the host, In most stagings of the opera the priest raises the host and Scarpia sings Tosca you make me forget god. In effect renouncing God in Gods presence, a foreshadowing of all the evil to come in the rest of the opera. Check out Raimondi performance to see what I mean.
Milnes was born to sing Scarpia. His acting and voice are just perfect!
Eu achei lindo o vídeo e estou doido pra ver esse filme, mas eu gostei mais do MacNeil de Scarpia. Pq o Milnes é sedutor, e o Scarpia pra mim eu vejo como alguém rabugento e frustrado, que satisfaz o seu desejo na violência e não no charme. Então só por esse motivo, pelo Milnes ser charmoso, eu prefiro o Scarpia do MacNeil. Mas como cantor e ator, o Milnes é muito melhor, obviamente
@@Joao-zw7iq Meu favorito depois do Milnes é Ettore Bastianini, já ouviste?
@ Bastianini is a legend anyone who enjoys opera to even the least extent has heard of him.
Milnes es perfecto para oídos y sensibilidades homosexuales...
@@williammountfield8508хорош, да. Но хворостовский бесподлбен
Il baritono Sherrill Milnes è uno dei migliori Scarpia che abbia ascoltato. Interpretazione meravigliosa!
One of the best Scarpias ever. Wonderful singing and exemplary interpretation of this complex role. This is real singing, sorely missing these days.
And he played the role so elegantly. Somehow, the elegance adds to the menace!
Un grande baritono, un grande Scarpia..semplicemente magnifico!
the mixture of sacred and profane created by Puccini is so powerful. Sherril Milnes is perfect.
And martial too- The cannons firing in the background imply the war going on between his and Napoleon's armies!
Quite, what he is singing, mixed with the organ and the words from the homily. It accentuates the profane so well, bringing forth his evilness. This is awesome stuff.
@@jmwoods190 that's genius
@@huldrrrr9486 Yes, Puccini really outdid Tchaikovsky here- 1812 is still awesome and fun, but Puccini's cannon's here actually makes things ambiguous yet scary here!
Exactly. It thrills me!
Milnes is one of the best Scarpias I've heard, his performance is wonderful, he is one of my favorite baritones, he sure mastered his craft.
I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶r̶e̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶a̶b̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶
Hahahaha in all fairness it would be a talented and good looking baby 😂
@@dinadossym3098 Definitely! He got the looks and the talent, too bad he is 65 years my senior...
Ho ascoltato tutti i migliori baritoni ma qui Milnes è quello che più mi convince di più. X me il miglior Scarpia.
Condivido appieno
Scusate.
Nessuno mi dà brividi profondi come questo:
th-cam.com/video/aLAgumn1hMI/w-d-xo.html
Voce, recitazione, intenzioni, trasporto interiore, desiderio, blasfemia, fermezza, mimica, autorità.
Un gigante ! 👍
Forse Gobbi, per presenza, se avesse avuto la voce... 😉
Voces en gola... Picola voce.
Non hai ascoltato Ambrogio Maestri immagino.
👏👏👏👏
perfect. he doesn't make funny scrunched up faces. his intention is perfect. he KNOWS he'll have Tosca and doesn't need to over emote.
yep, hawk eye. You feel the drama:)
But he never had her
I’m of the opinion that refined and seductive while being an absolute monster in private is the correct way to play scarpia, he is a baron and an important one at that he would have to keep up at least the facade of respectability, Milnes captures the suppressed evil perfectly.
And this veiled evil of Scarpia that Milnes delivers is in fact closer to reality, which further bolsters his performance!
I agree, and for this reason like him in the role better than Bryn Terfel
But my favourite will remain the terrifying John Shaw.
Not only a magnificent voice, this dude could act as well.
AN AMERICAN ORIGINAL AND HERO!
He got his start singing to cows on the family farm!
BRAVO!
Is Italian is perfect
This scene always gives me goosebumps listening to it.
Experienced it yesterday with Erwin Schrott in a concert version.. it was amazing. Unbelievable. Nobody dared to breath.
Me too. Hearing it live, with the orchestra and chorus, is a reason to live.
Milnes was the perfect Scarpia. Love his voice anyway!! An angel!
Sherrill Milnes is a work of art ✨
The best Scarpia .period
So clean, powerful and divine
Milnes makes pure evil look and sound way too good
Well that is what pure evil is often cloaked in- a charming, dominant demeanor!
This was when his voice was absolutely unstoppable.
+Matthew Roach among the best of "Scarpia'S" ever during his prime.
Milnes, uno de los mejores Scarpia de la historia.
De acuerdo
El mejor de la historia.
Scary yet beautiful
The greatest baritone ever.
Sherrill Milnes lends his powerful voice to one of the most exciting operatic finales ever written.
He broke the mold for this part - a virile younger and attractive villain. Saw it in person at the Met, absolutely thrilling. This is the scene that got me interested in opera 50 years ago.
There are any number of ways to play this role, but this is my favorite. Just casually evil.
The inspiration for Hellfire?
also if someone sang like that about me I'd be theirs forever
Perhaps
che bigotto e crudele Scarpia sa essere Milnes .... interpretazione mangifica di questo ruolo!!!!!... grande artista che io amo molto
Ascoltavo sempre questo brano con mio padre. Ora non c'è più e Scarpia è rimasto nel mio cuore
😥😥😥😥 Mi dispiace.
I heard Sherrill Milnes sing Scarpia at Lyric Opera in the mid-90's, I think. It was one of the last times that he appeared in Chicago. He sings the hell out of this role, but he's also a first-rate actor. He walks like Scarpia! What a vocal range he had, too! It's one of my best opera memories.
Wow! So lucky!
My father Malcolm Arnold has performed this role numerous times. If I am not mistaken, Sherill Milnes was one of my father’s vocal teachers.
Splendente! Il migliore con Tito Gobbi e Titta Ruffo!!!!
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia È un peccato che non l'abbia registrata 😓 Ma è pur sempre uno dei migliori.
Comunque anche Bastianini è sublime 🥰
My favourite piece of Puccini!
I'm so sorry this style of presentation never took hold: the opera in the style of a movie. Ever since I discovered Opera I've grown to love it, but it's A LOT of people don't enjoy it. Pretty much everyone my age while I was discovering didn't like it at all. I feel like making this movies can help a lot in that regard, making the presentation stand out immensely. I hope we can see more of these productions.
it was filmed in the locations set in the opera and the time of day.
Decisamente una magnifica interpretazione,uno Scarpia elegante ,misurato,nobile sostenuto da una linea di canto suadente e bella.
Milnes is wonderful here. Subtle yet direct.
Saw him in concert in the 70's. Fantastic. Not only great voice, but interpretations so vivid, I knew what he meant eve in those arias unfamiliar to me. He ended by cooling us down with an almost celestial version of Shenandoah, so soft and subtle.
May one also point out Sherrill Milnes’....sheer personal magnetism here? Small point, compared to those made below; but in modern times, no small attribute for a performer. And oh yes, the voice, the carriage, etc.......
God, this is singing! This is music
Amazing - never heard this before - pure perfection - truly an evil Scarpia!
I saw Milnes, back in the 80's, at the MET, NYC!
uno stupendo Scarpia dalla voce che rivela quanto questo personaggio, bigotto e nero dentro l'anima, trami usando calunnie, per ottenere il suo esclusivo piacere.
egli non possiede nell'anima un minimo di considerazione per i sentimenti di chi lo circonda.
orribile personaggio interpretato da Sherrill Milnes. con grande sapienza , arte e una stupenda voce!!
Brava!!!! Non capisco che problemi ha chi ha messo pollice in giù.
Il pollice in giù l'ha messo Bodiloto.
Legendary super baritone, my favorite.
Still the best.
Sinister, handsome and elegant.
And sexy
1,90 di altezza.
E con una voce da spezzare il fiato! 😍
Una delle migliori interpretazioni di Scarpia! Davvero fantastico !!!!
Molto coinvolgente ed emozionante, perfettamente calato nel ruolo .
Molto bella la regia, orchestra e coro bravissimi !!!
Lucrezia Borgia
viva lo stereo !
viva il pop moderno !
dal vivo era un'altra cosa ...
ahahahahahahahahahahahahah !
sovente una registrazione e' una illusione dolce ...
Gotta love how the music fluctuates between love and anger and jealousy pure genius
I saw this comment a little bit late... but I just saw this scene in my Opera class this week, and I can really say that it is one of my favorite opera scenes of all time! I don't know why, but this singer is just... great! The greatest Scarpia ever like you stated. :)
Me encanta Sherril Milnes. Voz maravillosa 😘
Voce magnifica!
Najlepszy Scarpia jak dla mnie! Wszystko idealne - śpiew, gra aktorska, nawet dykcja. I ten zawadiacki, bezczelny uśmieszek. Genialna robota!❤
Il donne la chair de poule...comme un vrai Scarpia nous la donnerai 👏👏
MAGNIFICENT version - most impressive I've seen or heard - great Sherrill Milnes!
Now this is the sound a Scarpia requires. Milnes was unequalled when he was on his stuff. T. Hampson can only dream of ever having sounded like this - this is a lyric baritone with a strong dramatic content. I generally think Scarpia is best for a real bass baritone - but Milnes is great here. I heard him do this in Munich. Also a great stage presence.
So lucky!
Thomas Hampson can never sound like Milnes, since he is not a real baritone.
Indudablemente la mejor interpretación y actuación de Scarpia
We shared a train compartment with him from Civitavecchia to Rome, and he told a lot of stories and shared a lot of insights about the filming of Tosca in the real locations. What a special experience. Still can't believe that happened. He's one of the greats of the golden age of opera, which I believe was the 60's and 70's, and his Scarpia is equal to any, ie. Gobbi, et al.
FAVOLOSO ❤❤❤❤
Ih Milnes, Love that sound of his. Great music and aria for a climactic chill.🌹
The best Scarpia ever, there is no doubt about that
magnifico Scarpia
The best
El mejor Scarpia en interpretación y actuacion...
Se pasó
Inghilleri, Weede...
Listen to Jose van Dam !! 🤔🤗😇 I like them both !!!
This is such a wonderful performance. Beautiful and intelligent. Even a female singer can learn a great deal from it.
Proprio magnifico.
Bravissimo Sherrill Milnes è perfetto per il ruolo: ha il
Phisic du Rolex e una voce meravigliosa..
Inoltre è così sexy che rende davvero l idea del diavolo subdolo e attraente.
Naturalmente la parte migliore è il Te Deum. Da quando l ho sentita la prima volta (pochi giorni fa) non smetto più di ascoltarla e cantarla.
Auguri a tutti per Natale e il nuovo anno
i adore this track....
Best baritone
This Is a Masterpiece...!
sensationnel.......un Scarpia né.
God he's terrifying! Incredible voice and acting!
Wow, this is amazing! So good! These words being sung in a church, impressive the church let that slide back then!
WHAT AN OPERA BY PUCCINI
Absolutely the best!
The best Scarpia!!
Orfeo Pecci
per i sordi e' così .
in realtà Milnes dopo i Baritoni d'origine americana tipo Tibbett,Warren,
Bonelli,MacNeil,Merrill era un pessimo prodotto americano degno del pop moderno ...
Wonderful voice! Superb presentation.
Too goodlooking for the evil looks! ;)Very like the Phantom.....
voce stupenda e splendida scenografia.
+Саша Чиграшева per voce stupida intendi stupenda? E' stato un grandissimo baritono americano. Sascia Cigrascieava? Conosco l'alfabeto cirillico. Ciao dall'Italia. Marisa.
E' stato e rimane uno dei maggiori baritoni del mondo. Pavarotti era poca cosa, Mario del Monaco un dio dell'IOlimpo e M. Bolton un cantantucolo di canzonette, che nulla ha in comune con la lirica.
***** posso affermare che non te ne intendi di voci liriche.
@@marisarossi6692
parlando dei cantantucol di canzonette Sherrill Milnes era campione del mondo in questa disciplina .
ahahahahahahahahahah !
accanto ai Baritoni d'origine americana tipo Tibbett,Bonelli,
Warren,Merrill,MacNeil il suo baritenore Milnes dal vivo faceva pallida figura ...
e non voglioparlare dei Baritoni Veri d'origine italiana tipo
Titta Ruffo , Bastianini e compagnia più di 40 Baritoni Meravigliosi tutti migliori dal baritenore Sherrill Milnes .
@@marisarossi6692
posso dire lo stesso di te .
cordialità
il vecchio
This honestly triggers my fight or flight response
Beautiful legato.
Gyönyörű!!!!!
Arrepiante interpretação do grande barítono Sherril Milnes.
Grande interpretazione
Simone Talvela
non c'è niente di cantare quando parliamo del personaggio di Scarpia...
ma in realtà baritoni come Milnes dal vivo diventano subito ridicoli quando non ci sono dei microfoni e l'aiuto dello stereo...
Scarpia = Titta Ruffo,DanisemStracciari,Bellantoni,Reali,Galeffi, Tagliabue,Bastianini,Guelfi,Tibbett,Warren,Merrill,MacNeil,Popov e compagnia .
se mi ricordo bene dal vivo Milnes aveva una vocetta di colore più chiaro dei tenori che interpretavano Cavaradossi ...
@@bodiloto caspita una voce piccola dal vivo, non lo avrei mai detto.
@@talvela100
carissimo giovane amico, e' ovvio che tu non hai sentito mai dal vivo le voci dei Tenori drammatici degli anni 1950,e' un fatto .
cordialità
il vecchio
@@bodiloto ha avuto modo di ascoltare anche Bastianini?
@@talvela100
mai avuto questa fortuna !
dal vivo tra i Baritoni avevo sentito Reali,Guelfi,Ivan Petroff, Ivan Popov,Stoyan Popov, Warren,Merrill,MacNeil e compagnia ...
Bastianini era un amico fedele e spesso scriveva delle letterine a una mia amica e collega soprano con la quale abbiamo cantato insieme Rigoletto,Lucia e il Ballo ...
il vecchio
Eu não aguento está ária que Deus sajas louvado,120 anos de escrita e ainda faz chorar que bom.
What a wonderful and telling effect: The soaring lyrical strings interrupted by the dead thud of the bass drum. (by the way, the bass drum does not usually sound so dead, It must have been slackened to get this amazing and thrilling effect.) Yes, all of Tosca is thrilling but Puccini couldn't resist making the opera even more thrilling with this effect by contrasting the lush compassionate strings with a dead thud of death of the bass drum. Bravo! Puccini was the greatest orchestrator of all time. He has the genius to interrupt an established texture with the greatest of surprises. (Mahler upon hearing Tosca commented--and I paraphrase "what right has he to write an opera when he is nothing more than a good orchestrator"). Do you dare agree with Mahler?
I'm pretty certain in the score that there is the sound of a cannon here along with the bass drum!
@@MrJsmiley108 You certainly make a good point. I have not seen the score and in some recording, you do seem to hear a cannon fired at the Castello Nuovo. At any rate, a cannon serves the purpose of contrast to the lush compassionate (the deceptive sound of the strings). Thanks for your post. .As we see later, while Scarpia is evil, he can remember the time as a child, perhaps when he had not set his diabolical course. No doubt he reassures himself that he was forced by circumstance to choose the dark force (and perhaps helped along by the devil as well.
Truly epic!
❤Minden szempontból - TELITALÁLAT‼️
This is like an operatic version of Frollo’s song about Desdemona in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Unparalleled!
Bryn terfell también es extraordinario
Best Scarpia ever
Best ever❤❤❤
Milnes ranks alongside London, Ramey and Gobbi as one of the great interpreters of the role of Scarpia.
This is my favorite portion of Tosca with Scarpia and the chorus. Milnes is magnificent with a powerful stage presence. The disconnect between the solemnity of the church (no doubt, the Pope is saying mass) and Scarpia' s lustful thoughts as he schemes to destroy Tosca' s lover and claim Tosca for himself is jarring. Even he recognizes it when he sings that Tosca has made him forget God.
+bovnyccc operalover Erm, I think you meant to say Tosca has made him forget God. That's what the lyrics say....
I meant forget God.
23 dicembre 2022 ho visto tosca al Politeama Greco di Lecce per la regia di Renata Scotto.... un'emozione unica
I adore it.....
I'm surprised this aria made it past the censors in 1900.
Voces en gola...
it's amazing.
I enjoyed the voice immensely. It is the staging and direction that I object to. The catholic ritual of a te deum is being performed. That is a hymn of thanksgiving to God. The consecrated host is taken from the altar and presented to the crowd in a monstrance. Catholics believe that Christ is present in the host, In most stagings of the opera the priest raises the host and Scarpia sings Tosca you make me forget god. In effect renouncing God in Gods presence, a foreshadowing of all the evil to come in the rest of the opera. Check out Raimondi performance to see what I mean.
I mean... that's the literal point
That voice, strong, male...
Tosca...you make me forget god.
Divine
perfect !