i live in an area considered bike friendly & i have biked e scooted and e unicycled just s few "10" miles from this bubble i wouldn't ever put anyones toddler never-mind mine own in that kind of danger even in my bubble areas it is just not safe yet
Keep in mind nominal watts mean next to nothing for mid-drive motors. Torque is a better metric, but it's further complicated by the different ways companies measure it. So it's most useful as a metric for comparing motors within the same brand.
It's rated a Class 1 E-Bike, so it is regulated to 20mph to meet regulations. It has a Max Gross Vehicle Weight of 190 kg (419 lbs), which is better than most bikes in its class.
@@vinnyveritas9599 yeah...not really getting the critic here... It's speed is limited by the class 1 requirements and it's weight capacity is based on the frame design which is stated to be more than 400lbs which makes it comparable or better than most cargo ebikes. Are you saying this acceleration is not gonna be good?
@@triaxe-mmb No the torque is weak from the testing, it can barely go uphill without a payload. For something called the "quick haul", that's a concern.
@@vinnyveritas9599 I am not getting where that inference is coming from...yes it's slower than a hub motor design cause of how the power is delivered...alao most hub motors are 500-750w motors...but it's the fastest mid-drive motor with 250w motor they have tested up that hill... Also, aren't most mid-drive motor cargo bikes also 250w motors?
I know comparison videos aren't your guys usual model but a Quickhaul vs GSD would be perfect
We'd love to give it a go if we get the GSD back in.
I am a fan of Tern bikes. I have a Tern HSD P9 performance model. Very versatile bike. Capable and fun.
why are hub drives faster than mid drives? I thought conventional wisdom was that the 'better' motor for performance was mid drives?
Perfect for daughter with a childseat for her toddler.
i live in an area considered bike friendly & i have biked e scooted and e unicycled just s few "10" miles from this bubble i wouldn't ever put anyones toddler never-mind mine own in that kind of danger even in my bubble areas it is just not safe yet
250 watts sounds a little too low for a cargo bike. I have a pedalic 250 watt motor and I get quite a workout ridding into a wind or up a hill.
Keep in mind nominal watts mean next to nothing for mid-drive motors. Torque is a better metric, but it's further complicated by the different ways companies measure it. So it's most useful as a metric for comparing motors within the same brand.
From your tests, it looks like it's not going to haul much neither is it going to be quick.
Naming it the "Quick Haul" is almost false advertising.
It's rated a Class 1 E-Bike, so it is regulated to 20mph to meet regulations. It has a Max Gross Vehicle Weight of 190 kg (419 lbs), which is better than most bikes in its class.
@@vinnyveritas9599 yeah...not really getting the critic here...
It's speed is limited by the class 1 requirements and it's weight capacity is based on the frame design which is stated to be more than 400lbs which makes it comparable or better than most cargo ebikes.
Are you saying this acceleration is not gonna be good?
@@triaxe-mmb No the torque is weak from the testing, it can barely go uphill without a payload. For something called the "quick haul", that's a concern.
@@vinnyveritas9599 I am not getting where that inference is coming from...yes it's slower than a hub motor design cause of how the power is delivered...alao most hub motors are 500-750w motors...but it's the fastest mid-drive motor with 250w motor they have tested up that hill...
Also, aren't most mid-drive motor cargo bikes also 250w motors?
@@vinnyveritas9599 this video shows its climbing ability is adequate with and without payload. How are you concluding "it can barely go uphill"?