What if Minesweeper Could be Automated?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Minesweeper, but you only solve each situation once.
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The reason the 5-1 rule didn't automatically fill in is because the "mark the 4s as bombs" rule activates first (since you made it first), meaning that the 5 region no longer exists!
I wonder if it possible to add several actions to the rule.
@@rchromatic it isn't
Actually you can, but only the same type of action.
@@rchromaticSurely you can clear first and still show bombs after.
@@Rapandreas Not in the same rule. To clear empty tiles AND mark bombs, you'll have to make 2 rules, unless the first rule leads to activating another rule that already solves the remaining board state.
I really want to see a series on this game, loved seeing olexa's brain melt through his ear
i second this
i third this
ive been playing and trust me, olexa will not be able to get much farther then this vid... may a bit, but nowhere near the sheer amount this game has to offer, you wont see a next vid
Gotta love it when Tylers play Minesweeper
Hats off to Aliensrock
I need you to know that I'm 4 minutes in and I cannot watch this video. I NEED to play this game. ... I'll be back after I solve the puzzles for myself.
Seriously, though, thanks for finding this. It looks like an awesome game.
They're seems to have been a group of us who all had the same reaction.
During the tutorial screens: I have no idea what this means, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna love it...
Halfway through watching level 1: That's it, I'm buying this game.
I can't wait till you reach the triangles levels!
21:00 Top cell is clear. simple rule to type
Absolutely love this
bro literally made a comment and laughed at the “don’t care” symbol then erases it from his memory when actually playing
The moment that i saw you play i just neded to download it
How I was looking forward to this!
Looks like a stream game
I bet Northernlion would love this.
also you should try generalising more, that's a lot of what the game is about. using the question marks is a start when the numbers under them don't matter
Can't wait to see Aliensrock play this and get this video's progress in 3 minutes
Thanks!
It hurts me deep inside when you duplicate a rule to change it to something that could have been stated in the same rule.
I don't think you can add multiple actions to the same rule because those situations being possible in different area configurations
for all of the "0" cases, you could have just put a ? for dont care, so that it counts for all of the 0 cases
I immediately bought this game after I saw 5 minutes of the video, and I am back with advice (so that hopefully you turn this into a series):
1. Regions (the lines with numbers) are all that matter. You don't need to look at the actual minesweeper numbers on the board, those are automatically calculated in the regions
2. The "venn diagram" is the consequence of rule 1. You have the colored outline with the number in the corner denoting a region where you know are X bombs. The numbers in the different intersections of the regions are how many slots (hexagons) are in that intersection. In the simplest, 2 region scenario, that will be how many are only in the left region, how many are shared and how many are in the right region (in the ui, not the board). That's, at least at the start of the game, what the "Don't Care" (?) is, and all the other numbers that unlock. As some other people mentioned, if you have a region of 0 bombs, you can put "Don't Care" as the number of hexagons in the rule and just clear them, and it will apply regardless of how many there actually are in the region.
3. Breaking your brain to make rules more generic saves you 10x the brain melting later on! You probably have like 6 versions of the 0 region rule at this point, because they are all specific to X hexagons. Same goes for a lot of the puzzles you went through where you got used to "we have the 1 2" and just repeated the same thing (ironically within 5 minutes of saying how this game takes the tedium out of Minesweeper). The puzzle you got stuck on before skipping a few for the end of the video: you already solved it! You already had a scenario where regions of 1, 1 and 2 were overlapping with exactly 1 shared space per pair, but the rest of the intersection matrix was different. If you had, from the start (or later on, but rules are sometimes hard to find in the list since there is no search), thought about which spaces are irrelevant, you could have put "Don't Care" and it would have solved that puzzle for you! The game gets progressively more insane, with having to come up with rules as intermediary steps to get to other rules, and, if you don't do it like that, there will probably always be puzzles you actually already solved but forgot how and now you have to figure it all out again in a more complex scenario.
I could tell from your voice you genuinely enjoyed the game, and as daunting as it may seem, I truly hope you stick with it, and ideally start from scratch. If you start rethinking the rules now that you have a better understanding, it will shift how you think of the game and you will be one step closer to that 100% completion!
I think the game just needs a better tutorial but its a really cool idea
As well as a nicer looking UI, a more progressive unlock of tools as the tutorial explains each of them.
As it stands, I wanna rip my eyes out looking at locks blocking a third of the screen that could have been better used as an info box telling me what the heck I'm even supposed to use where.
Automated mine-sweeper already exists, just give Olexa viewers a chance to comment “can’t read” on the other side of the field.
So, one thing that I recommend doing is generalizing your rules, and by that I mean using as much "?", "Number+", "Number-" and use "Number" to maintain it logical, cause sometimes you make two rules that could be one rule
And you can changa the colors of the nodes
34:40 The rules is with the blue, purple and the dark green, the 1 slot with both blue and dark green can't be a bomb. If it was a bomb, it will make purple can only have up to 1 bombs but it require 2 bombs.
i, for one, welcome our new Minesweeper Rougelike overlords.
if I had a nickel for every Tyler on TH-cam that enjoys minesweeper, I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
I think aliensrock would love this game.
Got to 21:37 before switching from "I have an inkling you might not know everything you're doing" to "I'll blame content-creator brain for you not knowing what you're doing."
Your initial confusion with the UI is exactly what happened when I played the demo. I hope the dev does something to make it clearer cause wow
how does the full game differentiate from the demo?
the full game has more levels
They've now locked parts of the tutorial and UI behind clearing certain numbers of levels, making it more clear how rules work and easing you into it more gently.
They didn't add much explanation, they just divided it into spoon-sized bites to make it easier to swallow. 😂
I wanna see you try this game some more in the future.
But next time you definitely need to generalize your rules.
You wanna keep your number of rules as low as possible while still working.
This game absolutely melts my brain but I love it. I'd love to see a series on this.
🛐🛐🛐 bles you for bringing this game to my attention ,i ended up playing the demo for 2.2 hours straight and i feel really sleepy aghjdfbghj
The parts where he had put the individual numbers for the 0 instead of a "Dont care" and clear had just slightly infuriated me. Otherwise a pretty good video.
this game was made 20000 times harder by the fact that you never took any time to generalize any of your rules. you just hit OK and 1 second later you are surprised by the fact that you have encountered the same issue that could have been solved if you simplified in the first place.
They explained nothing in the “tutorial” so I had no clue what I was doing in the 30 minutes I played.
All the frustration of watching someone do coding homework. Very cool game and no shade to you, puzzle games can just be hard to watch sometimes. Thanks for spotlighting this
omg, thank you for showing this game, it's amazing, but so much brain is needed, I need more brain to make sense, I have no brain left
"so we know.... What do I know" (defeated) perfect I'm getting this game
Watching you look over the instructions was confusing. I figured it would make sense once you started playing. Halfway through level 1 and I was hooked and definitely picking up this game.
This game looks cool.
But i dont understand any of it XD
Funny is, this video has more views than other recent videos
does somebody know what is the difference between the demo and full version of this?
cause I've been playing the demo and there seems to be no difference to this
more levels
The demo only has 4000 levels. You need to solve 6000 to get variables and even more to get different game modes.
great game! I am addicted to watching levels getting cleared
This game is crying out for an info box.
There's all this real estate wasted by locks for most of the game that could have just been hidden in a folding menu and put a big info box where each tool and region and menu could have been explained in so much detail instead but all we get are 3 slides with pictures and 2 word descriptions thrown in haphazardly before we even get to look at the board or any of the features.
Tyler forgetting that he can create regions is so painful
29:17
I think the reason that rule works is that the cell you choose can’t be a bomb or else both 1 regions would be solved, leaving the three region with only 2 cells
Make a series on this game
They gotta have small interactive squares where you learn the rules rather than having to memorize the rules at the beginning
38:04 He legit got the solution to it and said "nope" even though the logic checker lit up green with a check mark
As much as I love the game and understand it.
I think I'd rather watch someone play it😂
Fascinating
Will we get a part 2?? I would love to see more of this❤❤
After playing hexceed alot of the rules are easy to get a hang of
The tutorial needs a lot of work, but the game looks fun!
Watching games like this one is painful. You see the solution but the YTer does not see something and you lose it
Welcome to puzzle games
For me the ui is the only reason this game is hard
God the UI of this game is horrifying
This guy using so long to miss the logic of the "zones" chaning after everytime a rule plays-
On the 3 region rules you lost me. I thought you need to define the rules much more in detail with possibilities and so on
This game is great. I would love it if you slowed down the logic a tad more so it is watchable.
12:24 Not lost in the least.
has anyone ever told you you sound like northernlion
Nobody ever
This game is fascinating
I would love to see more
More of this, please
We know
jajaja love the What the freak do we know 19:25
if youve enjoyed it so far youll love it when you unlock...
*variables*
those are those on the bottom of the number selection tab?
What the heck is this. I love this
tip: add all regions to the rule maker to start a level
well you can only have max 4 regions at a time otherwise the game would be too easy
@@Cookiekopter I mean as many as you can
@@Cookiekopteralso you'd need more than two dimensions to map the 5+ region rules.
this has come to the point where gaming is more tiring than working
speak for yourself, this game is really intriguing
The UI is good. It just isn't explained. The game really needs an interactive tutorial.
I disagree. The UI is Horrible.
@@fractalinfinity really? What are your suggestions?
i like the ui as well