And you're drunk if you think spintv's coverage of this tournament was good. We missed a lot of great golf. And it is going to be hard to get this great sport to be more mainstream if we continue to have unprofessional commentary like this and like other tournaments have been. Retire Nate sexton. The commentating booth needs you bad!
adding the golf course has taken this event back a huge step. we see dozens of golf courses on all the tours all year. dela is one of the most unique actual disc courses in the world. just a total shame that they don't utilize it the whole tourney.
How about play this for two rounds, keep scores tight, then go to dela for the final round and ANYONE can make a move - do or die disc golf for the final round.
Lol Avery, "Mcbeth with the high carrying upshot" * goes in * "whoa the head wind taking that shot and putting it in the basket" pretty sure he was running that dude
Avery, take a beat and watch what happens before you start your commentary. The audio was a few moments ahead of the video so your quick comments spoil the suspense of an interesting putt. Also, how do they not have Ian on this? The pairing of a player with someone who is a natural commentator helped smooth the commentary out in the first two rounds. All in all, beautiful coverage and everyone is doing good work. All we need now is some FPO top card coverage to go along with MPO.
At 19:30, Avery said about Paul, "even with a good lead, you're not going to change your game plan." The funny thing is, Paul did exactly that. He tried going back to his old putting stance on the front 9. Didn't work out, so he went back to the straddle stance for the back 9.
Yeah! I noticed that, too. I wonder if he's thinking of switching back to it in the near future. I kind of hope so, because I love watching that throw.
so I do not understand why the pdga sometimes plays majors on golf courses that are not actual disc golf courses. this is a temporary course that the general public could probably never play on. why not play on actual dg courses? there are hundreds if not more that would be as good or better and I think it would be better for the sport. anyone know why this is a thing?
I really like this commentary duo. Avery is SO much better as an analyst. He really does know this game well, despite what the haters say, and I'm a guy who didn't like him doing the play by play in Czech. Jamie gets hate from some people, but his youthful voice and laid back play by play works really well. I'd like to see more of this.
Not trying to hate on Avery (though I don't exactly enjoy his commentary) but isn't it redundant to say "current and reigning" world champ? Aren't those the same things?
Technically you can be current within the last 5 years, (if referring to the past 100 champs for example), but the way he phrased it it means the same thing. lol
AJ Brown lol we had this discussion on the R2 backside video. He stated in a Smashboxx interview that his new hats are a little small and he constantly adjusts them during a round. And all that adjusting started pulling his hair out and since it was on the back of his head he didn't notice it until it was too late.
I am convinced he tried to shave the Adidas logo into his head but he did it in a bathroom mirror, so he didn't realize it was mirrored until someone else told him.
Jeremiah Meraz - definitely not! It first appeared a few weeks ago, and people were saying the same thing. No way he would keep rocking a botched Adidas logo! And you don't think Paul could afford to let someone else do it for him?!
*12 shot lead with 9 to go* "You never know with ricky" I'm sorry but even most AM1 players could hold that kind of a lead, let alone Paul McBeth. I understand that the videos get more attention when it's a close battle, but sometimes you have to take the medicine and call it what it is: an absolute blowout.
Avery doesn't deserve all this hate. Let's try constructive criticism instead. For example: Avery, you're improving every video. The only thing I would change is to try and develop a more conversational tone. Casual doesn't necessarily mean unprofessional. Ian is great at that, but having 2 Ians wouldn't give a super polished product. Find that middle ground and roll with it. You have the knowledge of the game, just be more comfortable
"For Eagle" on the screen before McBeth putts when you haven't shown that during any other shots...that was obvious and a spoiler. Step it up. Otherwise thank you for the post.
New drinking game, every time Avery says "Routine" or"tap in birdie" you have to take a drink. Guaranteed to get you very drunk over the course of just a few holes.
With all the love in my heart, to spinTV, I love you guys, but I can't even watch this video because of the commentary!!!!!! how many times does the discgolf community have to tell y'all ......Avery Jenkins is not good commentating but we love him!
Jerm is meh. Only reason he even won 2016 usdgc was cause they Called it early cause of weather. Maybe top 10 player cause of how little he plays his placing to playing ratio is high. If he played more he would drop in rankings.
Avery, with all due respect, we also have eyes. You do not need to describe every shot and its outcome. Watch some PGA golf and take cues from their style of commentary.
Innova you must think you do too well since you still use Avery. Then i guess its no problem for you to hire some people that can give Avery the attention/ love he seems to need 24/7.
Avery is more if an Ambassador really. Hes no longer a contender. Hes still good. But the level of DG has gone up alot in the last 5 years. And he didnt.
these guys just starting, ,everybody in play by play, ,get better with more experience, ,, Avery will get it, ,the guy sounds professional to me, ,little stiff, ,but professional, , and he knows everyone, every shot, ,every circumstance in situations on course. ... I enjoy all this team of announcers, ,, I could do it to, I'm sure, ,,but that don't mean you'll please everyone listening. ... good work Avery, ,even though you don't live on Flat earth. .. next round announcing, ,try couple nate s beers, ,,it's not against law. ..loosen you up,
James Roadhouse all he does is repeat the other commentators words and try to sound smarter, only to fail miserably. His commentary is like a word soup: no sentence structure in most of it.
Jamie wasn't bad as a commentator with Ian. But Avery is bad and drags him down with him. Get better commentary team please.... so disappointed to see this on the final round
I have an idea Innova. Why not put Avery commentating 1m away from the players when they throw. Give him a megaphone and some flashy outfit. Then it should be no reason to not get the videos out faster.
Sorry James. My bad. however Avery did correct you. You said flash the rings for" world champs " and he said "actually US champs are actually the only ones that do get a ring" ( so world champs don't get a ring?)
AMS Krill idk maybe it's cause the audience is more relaxed rather than professional. It also seems like a lot of people prefer the top players commentating so we can get their thought process on things.
AMS Krill It feels like Avery has mental blocks when he commentates. For example he'll say something along the lines of "And McBeth with the LONG... Fairway drive" which does not flow. Also, he stumbles over words all the time like at 19:50 "Getting lots of looks and converting for 'em". That sentence makes no sense.
Koling has the ugliest forehand on tour. Rolls his wrist every time. It just amazes me he can make it go straight. In ever clinic I've been to or seen and heard pros talk about how to forehand. Palm up!!! But he rolls his.
Disc golf videos have come a loonnnnggggg way. Nice work Spin TV and solid commentary Avery - Champ!
You're drunk if you think Avery's commentary is actually good.
And you're drunk if you think spintv's coverage of this tournament was good. We missed a lot of great golf. And it is going to be hard to get this great sport to be more mainstream if we continue to have unprofessional commentary like this and like other tournaments have been. Retire Nate sexton. The commentating booth needs you bad!
@@andywillhite how do you feel about disc golf coverage these days?
adding the golf course has taken this event back a huge step. we see dozens of golf courses on all the tours all year. dela is one of the most unique actual disc courses in the world. just a total shame that they don't utilize it the whole tourney.
How about play this for two rounds, keep scores tight, then go to dela for the final round and ANYONE can make a move - do or die disc golf for the final round.
another course allows more people to play in the tournament overall though
This is best round of putting I've ever seen
Lol Nate Sexton's awesome putts that the drone caught @ 10:57
was about to say the same thing! haha
Great coverage as always
Lol Avery, "Mcbeth with the high carrying upshot" * goes in * "whoa the head wind taking that shot and putting it in the basket" pretty sure he was running that dude
12 EMAN 12 absolutely lol.
I bet if it was his boy Wysocki he'd say it was a great putt and not just a lucky upshot. At least you know what to expect with Avery! Lol!
Avery, take a beat and watch what happens before you start your commentary.
The audio was a few moments ahead of the video so your quick comments spoil the suspense of an interesting putt. Also, how do they not have Ian on this? The pairing of a player with someone who is a natural commentator helped smooth the commentary out in the first two rounds. All in all, beautiful coverage and everyone is doing good work. All we need now is some FPO top card coverage to go along with MPO.
At 19:30, Avery said about Paul, "even with a good lead, you're not going to change your game plan." The funny thing is, Paul did exactly that. He tried going back to his old putting stance on the front 9. Didn't work out, so he went back to the straddle stance for the back 9.
Yeah! I noticed that, too. I wonder if he's thinking of switching back to it in the near future. I kind of hope so, because I love watching that throw.
I truly enjoyed watching Watson play on the card. Same with Big jerm
so I do not understand why the pdga sometimes plays majors on golf courses that are not actual disc golf courses. this is a temporary course that the general public could probably never play on. why not play on actual dg courses? there are hundreds if not more that would be as good or better and I think it would be better for the sport. anyone know why this is a thing?
How do I mute the Avery?
Great commentary! I like this more down to earth tone from Avery! Share your knowledge Avery :)
How you gonna have final round commentary without Ian? Seriously! Throw Ian and Sexton in there and watch some gold level narration.
Face
good to see Koling back in the lead card!
22:43 what kind of spot was that for Koling? He got like an additional 15 feet on his spot.
Because he was OB. Cart path and beyond is OB with island green. That's why his 3 throws got him a 4 (par).
I really like this commentary duo. Avery is SO much better as an analyst. He really does know this game well, despite what the haters say, and I'm a guy who didn't like him doing the play by play in Czech. Jamie gets hate from some people, but his youthful voice and laid back play by play works really well. I'd like to see more of this.
This course..... anyone else's bucketlist?
After the first round.. how about cutting out the drone shot? I am good with a map and verbal description just to remind me ??
Two things that will never be perfect:
1. Averys commentary
2. Paul McBeths hair
Paul back in beast mode!
Ricky's roller 👀👀
Who was the grumpy dude giving the drone the finger on 9?
How old is that innova commercial with Paul saying its his job? looks so old lol
That is actually a PDGA commercial. And it is about 4 years old.
Was there a Women's pro card?
woop woop let's go!
Koling came out with a tomahawk on hole 1! Brb I need some of the cantaloupe and pineapple I chopped up.
I'm going to die if I ever have to hear Avery say "as" before describing somebody's shot again
I cringed when I saw Avery on the commentary BUT I think the last 3 videos he's done better, he's improving...
Why do you continue to insist on having Avery commentate these videos? Great guy but leaves so much to be desired with the great filming
also, Avery, PLEASE learn the difference between flex and turn.
Youd think being a pro for so long he would know the difference.
NICE PUTT JERM!
Avery sounds more comfortable with the color commentary rather than the play-by-play. Maybe just a better fit?
eagle putt by mcbeth at 13:07.....loss for words
Not trying to hate on Avery (though I don't exactly enjoy his commentary) but isn't it redundant to say "current and reigning" world champ? Aren't those the same things?
Technically you can be current within the last 5 years, (if referring to the past 100 champs for example), but the way he phrased it it means the same thing. lol
alightened really? I didn't know that. But yeah, I thought he was being redundant lol.
Jeb Lavender it's like saying "I'm presently here" lol
Holy shit, Ricky is 13 behind...
Has anyone ever figured out what's going on with Paul's head in the back? Asking for a friend.
AJ Brown I'm pretty sure it's a botched Adidas logo
AJ Brown lol we had this discussion on the R2 backside video. He stated in a Smashboxx interview that his new hats are a little small and he constantly adjusts them during a round. And all that adjusting started pulling his hair out and since it was on the back of his head he didn't notice it until it was too late.
Jeb Lavender hahaha - poor Paul!
I am convinced he tried to shave the Adidas logo into his head but he did it in a bathroom mirror, so he didn't realize it was mirrored until someone else told him.
Jeremiah Meraz - definitely not! It first appeared a few weeks ago, and people were saying the same thing. No way he would keep rocking a botched Adidas logo! And you don't think Paul could afford to let someone else do it for him?!
*12 shot lead with 9 to go*
"You never know with ricky"
I'm sorry but even most AM1 players could hold that kind of a lead, let alone Paul McBeth. I understand that the videos get more attention when it's a close battle, but sometimes you have to take the medicine and call it what it is: an absolute blowout.
they talk about about rick coming back to win it when he's still tied at second with jerm lol
Avery doesn't deserve all this hate. Let's try constructive criticism instead.
For example: Avery, you're improving every video. The only thing I would change is to try and develop a more conversational tone. Casual doesn't necessarily mean unprofessional. Ian is great at that, but having 2 Ians wouldn't give a super polished product. Find that middle ground and roll with it. You have the knowledge of the game, just be more comfortable
Why Mr. Watson not just Chris lol
"For Eagle" on the screen before McBeth putts when you haven't shown that during any other shots...that was obvious and a spoiler. Step it up. Otherwise thank you for the post.
Also "For Par" Before Koling's putt....c'mon guys
16:36 little voice crack there Avery? 😂
Looks like Mcbeths barber got a little clipper happy.
New drinking game, every time Avery says "Routine" or"tap in birdie" you have to take a drink. Guaranteed to get you very drunk over the course of just a few holes.
Corey Butler I'm not upset about this
or "Ravine"
or "standard"
or "precision"
Or "absolutely "
Avery is the John Madden of disc golf
With all the love in my heart, to spinTV, I love you guys, but I can't even watch this video because of the commentary!!!!!!
how many times does the discgolf community have to tell y'all ......Avery Jenkins is not good commentating but we love him!
avery needs to pack a thesaurus next vid
11:00 sexton come on man
Honestly not the biggest fan of Avery's style of commentary, but combined with Jamie it was actually pretty good.
if Jerm can keep putting 'lights out' once he gets his bag figured, watch out! Prodigy "F'd" up on that one...
Jerm is meh. Only reason he even won 2016 usdgc was cause they
Called it early cause of weather. Maybe top 10 player cause of how little he plays his placing to playing ratio is high. If he played more he would drop in rankings.
Avery, with all due respect, we also have eyes. You do not need to describe every shot and its outcome. Watch some PGA golf and take cues from their style of commentary.
Innova you must think you do too well since you still use Avery. Then i guess its no problem for you to hire some people that can give Avery the attention/ love he seems to need 24/7.
Avery is more if an Ambassador really. Hes no longer a contender. Hes still good. But the level of DG has gone up alot in the last 5 years. And he didnt.
13:08
I agree on Averys comentary. Not very bad. But I really don't prefer him.
Thanks for the good coverage SpinTV. But please no Avery next time.
these guys just starting, ,everybody in play by play, ,get better with more experience, ,, Avery will get it, ,the guy sounds professional to me, ,little stiff, ,but professional, , and he knows everyone, every shot, ,every circumstance in situations on course. ... I enjoy all this team of announcers, ,, I could do it to, I'm sure, ,,but that don't mean you'll please everyone listening. ... good work Avery, ,even though you don't live on Flat earth. ..
next round announcing, ,try couple nate s beers, ,,it's not against law. ..loosen you up,
James Roadhouse all he does is repeat the other commentators words and try to sound smarter, only to fail miserably. His commentary is like a word soup: no sentence structure in most of it.
Avery helps so much behind the scenes, when will spin tv realize we want fresh voices on commentary? Dislike to show your opinion I guess?
Jamie wasn't bad as a commentator with Ian. But Avery is bad and drags him down with him. Get better commentary team please.... so disappointed to see this on the final round
If Paul loses this I'll eat Avery's shorts.
its click bait for not saying that avery is on commenary. out
I think Avery did a good job again here. he has really improved since the last tournament
carry
Here before the Avery hate.
Avery over stating the obvious 3 times on one hole
Less Avery, more BigSexy
Please stop having Avery do commentary. He truly only detracts from the experience.
Gotta love how his obviously rehearsed commentary reactions occur before the play is even done.
Ian and Avery are a better commentary duo in my opinion. I could do without Jamie.
Avery's doing much better
Avery's commentary actually didn't seem that bad this vid, idk if Jamie balanced him out or what but it was definitely better.
everything that Avery says is so redundant
Like "current and reigning world champion". Current. Reigning. Pick one. Don't say both, it's stupid. He's doing better though.
I guess Ricky is Lording over everyone...so he is not only current but "reigning" lol
When the player consentrate/throw, dont talk/ comment please!
Bush Hunter they are commentating after the fact, not live
I have an idea Innova. Why not put Avery commentating 1m away from the players when they throw. Give him a megaphone and some flashy outfit. Then it should be no reason to not get the videos out faster.
this isnt as exciting to watch as watching them play de la. not a fan of playing on golf courses not that interesting.
15:30 proof that Jamie is not a good commentator.
or was I setting up some info for Avery to drop? I've been to the last 4 USDGC player meetings (where they give out the rings) ;)
Sorry James. My bad. however Avery did correct you. You said flash the rings for" world champs " and he said "actually US champs are actually the only ones that do get a ring" ( so world champs don't get a ring?)
can ya get another spokes person a.j. is lame
Why don't they realize we don't favor Avery in commentary.... no love for the fans
marklfig can I ask why so many people dislike him? is it because of his occasional strange comments?
AMS Krill idk maybe it's cause the audience is more relaxed rather than professional. It also seems like a lot of people prefer the top players commentating so we can get their thought process on things.
AMS Krill It feels like Avery has mental blocks when he commentates. For example he'll say something along the lines of "And McBeth with the LONG... Fairway drive" which does not flow. Also, he stumbles over words all the time like at 19:50 "Getting lots of looks and converting for 'em". That sentence makes no sense.
AMS Krill he just says what you can see for yourself
AMS Krill and he doesn't enunciate his words.
Koling has the ugliest forehand on tour. Rolls his wrist every time. It just amazes me he can make it go straight. In ever clinic I've been to or seen and heard pros talk about how to forehand. Palm up!!! But he rolls his.
Consensus seems to be he has one of the best. Maybe you should calm down
first?!