When Diana Ross was on Oprah, I'm glad Ms. Ross said, "we" oppose to Oprah's "you" whwn Oprah was actually speaking about The Supremes. Kudos to Ms. Ross for acknowledging Mary and Florence in her responses. And of course, ita noce to see Mary Wilson in.her elegance 💖💖💖
For some reason Oprah never wanted to ever interview Mary Wilson. She no doubt favored Diana Ross several times on her talkshow. But like every story there are two sides.
The American public also favored Diana. That's why when she left the group, they left with her, causing her to become even more popular as a solo artist. We all know that Mary never had a successful solo career. She lacked Diana's charisma. and there wasn't anything distinctive about her singing voice. Unlike Diana, Mary was average and not Star material and that's why she never went too far. That is the truth, and the history that we both lived attest to it.
I adore that Diana Ross was singing the background vocals of Florence and Mary. But I’d only assume she’s thinking about Flo the most here, as she is loud and clear on the top note. 20:05
Oprah know she was wrong. At 1:58 they showed a picture of the Supremes , with the caption: “The Ed Sullivan Show-1964” but we all know that is Cindy Birdsong in the picture and not Florence Ballard… which means this picture can’t possibly be in 1964… Oprah should know better.
Lady SUPREME Mary Wilson Always gave The BEST concerts where ever she performed or appeared. She spread & exhumed so much Love, Class, Beauty & Talent & always left the audiences leaving with great big smiles & joyous faces.. I experienced several of them in my life.. 25 - million selling Gold Record Hits. over 45 Hit singles in the various National Hot 100 Music Charts.... It's been reported that in the 1960s they sold over 50 million records & in the 1970s another 10 million. Since then, they have reached over 100 million in sales.. The Supremes-1961 to 1977.. They Never Lost A Their SUPREME Touch or Magic,, especially Mary Wilson & Diana Ross.. Thank God The "Former Ladies of The Supremes" from the 1970s that were with Ms. Wilson at the time, are touring the world now & keeping The Music Alive..
Spare me, if you go by Oprah, the Supremes were a solo act as she had only ever acknowledged Diana Ross. I was shocked to learn Wislon was excluded from Oprah's "Legends Ball". The definition of the "Legends Ball" was given by Oprah herself "Simply those that have paved the way", ,,Ummm by her own definition, as a found member of one the most successful all female black groups of the 60's, Mary should have been included.
"@Hardren101 Then why didn't you invite Mary Wilson to the party? Oh, I know! Because it wasn't your celebration. Maybe Oprah did not like Mary Wilson the way she liked Diana Ross, just like you don't like Diana Ross and talk trash about her on your platform. It's just that Oprah's platform is much bigger than yours. You people are jokes and jealous of the success of Oprah Winfrey, Diana Ross, and Barack Obama. Enjoy your pity party Loser!"
@@lbradlbrad6561 Pay close, objective attention, i am going to teach you something that your parents failed to teach you or simply went in one ear and out the other (if you were raised in foster care or group home, ya .excused)...2 ppl can look at the exact same pic, listen to the exact same song, and each see/hear something DIFFERENT. Neither OPINION is right or wrong, they are simply 2 different OPINIONS. B/c you do not share someone/anyones OPINION, does not invalidate that opinion or make it wrong. And there is most certainly no need to become unhinged and go on the attack with rude, inappropriate insults. I will not review/reply to any further comments, or replies, as it would be counterproductive....Be well, all the best, GOD bless!!!! 😀
I don't believe in the revisionist response provided by Diane. Diane was well aware that Flo didnt leave to just "start a family". Flo was exhausted of the constant focus on Diane and the verbal abuse she suffered from Gordy regarding her weight. What Flo was naturally, Diane had to work overtime to become. Each Supreme was talented in her own right but the professional direction and focus was not a group focus at all
DianA simply toed the professional line. Would you have preferred that she said, "Flo was fired because she missed shows, rehearsals, interviews and recordings, and when she did show up, she started drunken brawls."? Pick one. Flo was never a lead or star attraction. If she was, she'd have made it on her own. without Diana's work ethic, The Supremes would never have existed, as they never could have made it on FLo's "steam". She never wanted to go to Motown, in the first place.
@TheReturnOfStephan1 I would prefer Diane tell the truth decades after Flo's dismissal and later her demise yet rather she maintains the Motown myth frankly a lie of "exhaustion". Flo certainly did have a lead/star quality about her which many have noted that her talents in comedy, rich and clear soprano, and the first Supreme to score a solo deal and a successful sold-out Ford Auditorium show.
This video needs corrections. First, Motown was not the first record company owned by an "African-American." Please research Black Swan Records, VJ Records, and SARs. Second, Berry Gordy Jr is American not African. He was born in Detroit, Michigan so he is not "African-American." Last, when the girls changed their name to the Supremes, rumor holds they were a quartet as Barbara Martin was still a member of the group. Just a few errors but noticeable.[]
Mary rode a self-serving fence that allowed her to fall on either side for convenience. She cosigned when things benefited her then played victim when it became advantageous to do so. Overall, I celebrate them as a group but realize they were individuals that needed to do what they thought was right for their own paths, success and survival in the brutal business of show.
@@Maatizationyou got a point, she even admitted in her 2nd book. She said she should be ashamed of herself for using Flo’s memory as personal gain while performing just months after her death.
While playing The Passive Aggressive role while acting all innocent. First she says that it was Flo’s fault she was fired in her first book. Then in her 2nd book she says it was Berry and Flo’s fault she was fired. Then in the 1st and 2nd book (2000 edition) in the late 90’s she gonna say it was Diana and Berry’s fault Flo got fired while sacrificing her. Mary couldn’t always keep her story straight. As much as I love Mary and honor her for keeping The Supremes alive after Diana left but like Diana and Flo, Mary had issues too. That issue is being sneaky, passive aggressive and not assertive in her real feelings.
@@jakimsingletary164 Mary obviously flipped flopped for survival but the only thing she said I found to be true was that The Supremes ceased to be The Supremes after Flo left.
..Have you ever heard of Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas.....? Before speaking you need to know what you are saying!!
Oprah never interviewed Wilson for the simple reason that she didn’t waste her time on backing singers who had nothing to talk about BUT Diana Ross. The only thing that kept Wilson even remotely relevant was her blah blah blah about Diana.
No, I think Mary would tell Oprah how Diana was her meal ticket and the shame that the only thing interesting about her is her association with Diana Ross.
@@francorossville7359yes but they didn't mistreat their group mates and didn't treat them like background singers so I wonder why you're getting so angry
The Temptations didn't change their name like that. Ms. Ross had a sexual relationship with Barry Gordy. That's why she was the star, in my opinion. It is a shame that Mary Wilson, and Florence Ballard were not allowed to sing lead.
Lots of groups changed their names to lead singer plus backing group. The Temptations had several singers who sang lead, that’s why they couldn’t be changed. The relationship between Diana and Berry (not Barry) began in 1965. The group had been with Motown since 1961, and by 1965 the group had five number ones behind them, and Diana was already the established lead singer. Her relationship with Gordy has nothing to do with her star quality. If you’ve got it, you’ve got it. That’s why she became the main star in the group. Diana had the commercial sound Gordy was looking for. The other three didn’t have that sound. Diana was and still is everything.
@@lyndad5210 David Ruffin wanted the group name to be changed to David Ruffin & The Temptations. Otis fired him. Smart move to just keep the name as it always was. Especially as there’s now been in excess of 30 members of the quintet.
@@SteveWeaverIvyfield Absolutely. It couldn’t have worked with a name change for The Temptations. I couldn’t even tell you any names of the later members of the group. 30+ members is pretty hard to keep up with.
I believe Mary should have bin included in the ball Mary. Was a beautiful and loving human being we all love Mary very much she had a love in her heart❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 we love the Supreme not just all of them❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yet Mary made a million dollars on a book backstabbing Diana and doing real damage to her career and reputation...but its Diana's job to say nice things about that lying demon?
Yes she does. Every time I’ve seen her live she pays homage to them…but they were only 10 years of her very successful 65 year career. She owes them FA!
PSALMS 100. ** MOTOWN SOUND** IS. A JOYFUL 😊😊😊😊 SOUNDS NEVER. HAS. . NEGATIVE SONG CONTENT. DON'T MEAN TO GET RELIGIOUS ( ALTHOUGH I AM DEVOUTLY,). BUT GOD. DEEMED IT SO. ESPECIALLY. & DEFINITELY. ** MOTOWN SOUND WAS. BUILT WITH 💕 LOVE. MASTERMINDED. BY. * THE CHAIRMAN, THE GREATEST 🎵🎵 MUSIC EXECUTIVE THAT THE 🌎 WORLD HAD KNOWN !! ** THE SUPREMES** REMAIN. MY FAVORITE 💞. MUSIC. SUPERSTARS ..3. CINDERELLAS. WHO AS DESTINY PRESENTED THE 🌎 WORLD. 3. MULTI TALENTED. "" AMERICAN 💋 SWEETHEARTS ... THE STRODE WITH DIANA'S POUNDS OF CONFIDENCE & COURAGE &&&. UNIQUE VOICE. SOARED TO THE ATMOSPHERE. STRATOPHERE. AND IONOSPHERE.
I mean it would have been nice to see Diana, Mary,Cindy, Jean,Linda, Sheryl and Susaye at the reunion tour. I think it would have attracted more tickets.
Florence Ballard could've sang Ross OUT OF THE ZIP CODE anyyyyyy day. Such a SHAME that she had happen to what did. She wasn't without resposibility though. Ross has only come back to Detroit a TINY hand full of times in the past 40 years. It's not good enough for her.🤬🤬🤬
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When Diana Ross was on Oprah, I'm glad Ms. Ross said, "we" oppose to Oprah's "you" whwn Oprah was actually speaking about The Supremes. Kudos to Ms. Ross for acknowledging Mary and Florence in her responses. And of course, ita noce to see Mary Wilson in.her elegance 💖💖💖
RIP FLORENCE BALLARD
and Mary wilson, amazing women great singers
Who?
@@dddddadadad1796 Ye know; Diana’s backing singers 😂😂😂
@@jonsa270 oh!!!!!!! Yeah. I know now
Oprah Winfrey has certainly always had an attraction (especially) for Diana Ross, undoubtedly.
Maya Angelou & Tina Turner too.
For some reason Oprah never wanted to ever interview Mary Wilson. She no doubt favored Diana Ross several times on her talkshow. But like every story there are two sides.
Mary's side was filled with anger and resentment and a number of lies.
@Maatization Diana was mean, selfish and jealous. Mary and Flo were more attractive although all 3 women were good-looking.
The American public also favored Diana.
That's why when she left the group, they left with her, causing her to become even more popular as a solo artist.
We all know that Mary never had a successful solo career. She lacked Diana's charisma. and there wasn't anything distinctive about her singing voice.
Unlike Diana, Mary was average and not Star material and that's why she never went too far. That is the truth, and the history that we both lived attest to it.
@@mercedes7811 True
@@Maatizationstop lying. Mary's truth included some discomforting facts about Diane that the public was already keen on.
I adore that Diana Ross was singing the background vocals of Florence and Mary. But I’d only assume she’s thinking about Flo the most here, as she is loud and clear on the top note. 20:05
Diana Ross❤ is so beautiful, sweet and intelligent.
Yesssss
Oprah know she was wrong. At 1:58 they showed a picture of the Supremes , with the caption: “The Ed Sullivan Show-1964” but we all know that is Cindy Birdsong in the picture and not Florence Ballard… which means this picture can’t possibly be in 1964… Oprah should know better.
Oprah is so unfair. She forgets it was not only Diana, it was also Mary and Florence.
Oprah was not unfair at all. Diana was the lead singer of the Supremes. No one was checking for Mary
The timbre of that voice ❤
Lady SUPREME Mary Wilson Always gave The BEST concerts where ever she performed or appeared. She spread & exhumed so much Love, Class, Beauty & Talent & always left the audiences leaving with great big smiles & joyous faces.. I experienced several of them in my life.. 25 - million selling Gold Record Hits. over 45 Hit singles in the various National Hot 100 Music Charts.... It's been reported that in the 1960s they sold over 50 million records & in the 1970s another 10 million. Since then, they have reached over 100 million in sales.. The Supremes-1961 to 1977.. They Never Lost A Their SUPREME Touch or Magic,, especially Mary Wilson & Diana Ross.. Thank God The "Former Ladies of The Supremes" from the 1970s that were with Ms. Wilson at the time, are touring the world now & keeping The Music Alive..
@SWDetboy Exhumed? I'm assuming you meant exuded.
Facts check immediately!😂
Spare me, if you go by Oprah, the Supremes were a solo act as she had only ever acknowledged Diana Ross. I was shocked to learn Wislon was excluded from Oprah's "Legends Ball". The definition of the "Legends Ball" was given by Oprah herself "Simply those that have paved the way", ,,Ummm by her own definition, as a found member of one the most successful all female black groups of the 60's, Mary should have been included.
"@Hardren101 Then why didn't you invite Mary Wilson to the party? Oh, I know! Because it wasn't your celebration. Maybe Oprah did not like Mary Wilson the way she liked Diana Ross, just like you don't like Diana Ross and talk trash about her on your platform. It's just that Oprah's platform is much bigger than yours. You people are jokes and jealous of the success of Oprah Winfrey, Diana Ross, and Barack Obama. Enjoy your pity party Loser!"
@@lbradlbrad6561 Pay close, objective attention, i am going to teach you something that your parents failed to teach you or simply went in one ear and out the other (if you were raised in foster care or group home, ya .excused)...2 ppl can look at the exact same pic, listen to the exact same song, and each see/hear something DIFFERENT. Neither OPINION is right or wrong, they are simply 2 different OPINIONS. B/c you do not share someone/anyones OPINION, does not invalidate that opinion or make it wrong. And there is most certainly no need to become unhinged and go on the attack with rude, inappropriate insults. I will not review/reply to any further comments, or replies, as it would be counterproductive....Be well, all the best, GOD bless!!!! 😀
Oprah is a nasty women
I don't believe in the revisionist response provided by Diane. Diane was well aware that Flo didnt leave to just "start a family". Flo was exhausted of the constant focus on Diane and the verbal abuse she suffered from Gordy regarding her weight. What Flo was naturally, Diane had to work overtime to become. Each Supreme was talented in her own right but the professional direction and focus was not a group focus at all
DianA simply toed the professional line.
Would you have preferred that she said, "Flo was fired because she missed shows, rehearsals, interviews and recordings, and when she did show up, she started drunken brawls."?
Pick one.
Flo was never a lead or star attraction.
If she was, she'd have made it on her own.
without Diana's work ethic, The Supremes would never have existed, as they never could have made it on FLo's "steam".
She never wanted to go to Motown, in the first place.
@TheReturnOfStephan1
I would prefer Diane tell the truth decades after Flo's dismissal and later her demise yet rather she maintains the Motown myth frankly a lie of "exhaustion". Flo certainly did have a lead/star quality about her which many have noted that her talents in comedy, rich and clear soprano, and the first Supreme to score a solo deal and a successful sold-out Ford Auditorium show.
D I A N A
@@lewiscarey1593 Diane to the Motown family
@@s.rhockenhull1168 So now you’re “the Motown family”? 😂😂😂😂😂
Mary Wilson wrote two books about her life as a Supreme... Wilson knew that Oprah was a fan of Diana Ross
The supremes had 15 number one hits. More number one hits than the Beatles and no other girl group have roped the supremes.
Supremes/DRATS had 12 number 1s. The Beetles had 20…but yeah, DRATS/Supremes were unbeatable as a girl group
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This video needs corrections. First, Motown was not the first record company owned by an "African-American." Please research Black Swan Records, VJ Records, and SARs. Second, Berry Gordy Jr is American not African. He was born in Detroit, Michigan so he is not "African-American." Last, when the girls changed their name to the Supremes, rumor holds they were a quartet as Barbara Martin was still a member of the group. Just a few errors but noticeable.[]
Siempre está hermosa Diana Ross ❤️🕊️
Love it. Still look GOOD. Brp Brp!!!
The Supreme's were a powerful group...however Florence was treated wrong and Diana new it Mary also new it but didn't speak on it
Florence was her own worst enemy. She became an alcoholic and disrespected Berry Gordy
I'm curious why you have picture of Miss Ross, on Oprah. BUT you take us to actor's studio??????😮😮😮😮
.... what you mean ?
That Was The Supremes Singing Somewhere
Original Mary, Florence, Diana
MR.GORDY & MISS ROSS. ARE THE """ GREATEST""". WHEN I THINK OF THEM. I SOAR. AT THE KEYBOARDS. !?
I've always only had an interest in Diana Ross and maybe Cindy bird song. Not of the others they were simply background singers.
Mary rode a self-serving fence that allowed her to fall on either side for convenience. She cosigned when things benefited her then played victim when it became advantageous to do so.
Overall, I celebrate them as a group but realize they were individuals that needed to do what they thought was right for their own paths, success and survival in the brutal business of show.
Mary Wilson used Florence's tragic life as a career opportunity for herself to further her own visibility and career. Cynical as hell.
@@Maatization You told no lies! Mary was an opportunistic "victim" fixated with Diana Ross until the very end.
@@Maatizationyou got a point, she even admitted in her 2nd book. She said she should be ashamed of herself for using Flo’s memory as personal gain while performing just months after her death.
While playing The Passive Aggressive role while acting all innocent. First she says that it was Flo’s fault she was fired in her first book. Then in her 2nd book she says it was Berry and Flo’s fault she was fired. Then in the 1st and 2nd book (2000 edition) in the late 90’s she gonna say it was Diana and Berry’s fault Flo got fired while sacrificing her. Mary couldn’t always keep her story straight. As much as I love Mary and honor her for keeping The Supremes alive after Diana left but like Diana and Flo, Mary had issues too. That issue is being sneaky, passive aggressive and not assertive in her real feelings.
@@jakimsingletary164 Mary obviously flipped flopped for survival but the only thing she said I found to be true was that The Supremes ceased to be The Supremes after Flo left.
Oprah never interviewed Mary because she knew that Mary would've told Oprah that how she and Florence had to babysit Diana..., 👏 !!!
..Have you ever heard of Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas.....?
Before speaking you need to know what you are saying!!
Oprah never interviewed Wilson for the simple reason that she didn’t waste her time on backing singers who had nothing to talk about BUT Diana Ross. The only thing that kept Wilson even remotely relevant was her blah blah blah about Diana.
No, I think Mary would tell Oprah how Diana was her meal ticket and the shame that the only thing interesting about her is her association with Diana Ross.
@@francorossville7359yes but they didn't mistreat their group mates and didn't treat them like background singers so I wonder why you're getting so angry
Mary was no angel she was jealous and vindictive
The Temptations didn't change their name like that. Ms. Ross had a sexual relationship with Barry Gordy. That's why she was the star, in my opinion. It is a shame that Mary Wilson, and Florence Ballard were not allowed to sing lead.
Lots of groups changed their names to lead singer plus backing group. The Temptations had several singers who sang lead, that’s why they couldn’t be changed. The relationship between Diana and Berry (not Barry) began in 1965. The group had been with Motown since 1961, and by 1965 the group had five number ones behind them, and Diana was already the established lead singer. Her relationship with Gordy has nothing to do with her star quality. If you’ve got it, you’ve got it. That’s why she became the main star in the group. Diana had the commercial sound Gordy was looking for. The other three didn’t have that sound. Diana was and still is everything.
@@lyndad5210 David Ruffin wanted the group name to be changed to David Ruffin & The Temptations. Otis fired him. Smart move to just keep the name as it always was. Especially as there’s now been in excess of 30 members of the quintet.
@@SteveWeaverIvyfield Absolutely. It couldn’t have worked with a name change for The Temptations.
I couldn’t even tell you any names of the later members of the group. 30+ members is pretty hard to keep up with.
Diana apparently ruled in the bedroom as she ruled the stage 😂
All the girls did lead initially and it wasn't working until BG delegated Diana as lead singer and thats when the Supremes rose to super stardom
I believe Mary should have bin included in the ball Mary. Was a beautiful and loving human being we all love Mary very much she had a love in her heart❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 we love the Supreme not just all of them❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
She never compliments Mary or Flo-what a witch.
@j3322 Play nicely, children...
Yet Mary made a million dollars on a book backstabbing Diana and doing real damage to her career and reputation...but its Diana's job to say nice things about that lying demon?
She never says a bad word about them - not until Mary ruined the reunion tour. Boy that worked out for Mary!!
Yes she does. Every time I’ve seen her live she pays homage to them…but they were only 10 years of her very successful 65 year career. She owes them FA!
Florence was the limelight of the Supremes but never got credit. She found and form the group. R.I.P Flo.
Rubbish. Flo was the first person to join the group that Milton Jenkins was forming.
Things is the south have not changed.
#The Original Detroiit
Without Mary and Flo Ross sounds like shit
@@jl3322 on my channel l pretend an educate language !!
Yet she still made it on her own for decades without them and won awards by herself, so whats your point exactly?
@jl3322 55+ years of success without Mary and Flo proves you wrong.
@@skylerjohnson6078she never won a Grammy
@wilhelmina6429 do Mary and Flo have grammys?
PSALMS 100. ** MOTOWN SOUND** IS. A JOYFUL 😊😊😊😊 SOUNDS NEVER. HAS. . NEGATIVE SONG CONTENT. DON'T MEAN TO GET RELIGIOUS ( ALTHOUGH I AM DEVOUTLY,). BUT GOD. DEEMED IT SO. ESPECIALLY. & DEFINITELY. ** MOTOWN SOUND WAS. BUILT WITH 💕 LOVE. MASTERMINDED. BY. * THE CHAIRMAN, THE GREATEST 🎵🎵 MUSIC EXECUTIVE THAT THE 🌎 WORLD HAD KNOWN !! ** THE SUPREMES** REMAIN. MY FAVORITE 💞. MUSIC. SUPERSTARS ..3. CINDERELLAS. WHO AS DESTINY PRESENTED THE 🌎 WORLD. 3. MULTI TALENTED. "" AMERICAN 💋 SWEETHEARTS ... THE STRODE WITH DIANA'S POUNDS OF CONFIDENCE & COURAGE &&&. UNIQUE VOICE. SOARED TO THE ATMOSPHERE. STRATOPHERE. AND IONOSPHERE.
I mean it would have been nice to see Diana, Mary,Cindy, Jean,Linda, Sheryl and Susaye at the reunion tour. I think it would have attracted more tickets.
Florence Ballard could've sang Ross OUT OF THE ZIP CODE anyyyyyy day. Such a SHAME that she had happen to what did. She wasn't without resposibility though. Ross has only come back to Detroit a TINY hand full of times in the past 40 years. It's not good enough for her.🤬🤬🤬
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤😍🙏🏽