I think it might be the powder. I’ve always gotten excellent results with A-9, Enforcer and 2400 with standard primers. I do use magnums with H-110 and L’il Gun.
@@DummyRound I separate the range pickup .45 ACP brass I use for action shooting by head stamp , but my spreads with A2 and Titegroup are pretty big. Those powders are always under 40 in Starline cases from the same lot.
Good stuff DR! I'm using small magnum pistol because that's what was available and I bought 1K. I loaded (my son helped, I'm teaching him as I'm learning) about 150 .38 special rounds with some cast bullets I got for free from one of my friendly local shops. We shot almost all of them today and had a great time. He is growing to love the revolvers as much as the autos! Keep up the awesome videos brother!
Gotta take what you can get. They might also work in 9mm or some semis depending on how hard your striker or hammer falls. I'd load two or three to test that if you want to. Anyways, that's awesome the boy is getting involved. Thanks for stopping in, my friend👍🇺🇸
The last time I had bought bulk primers was a couple of cases of 5000 Wolf small pistol for $109.00 each at a gun show a few years ago. I snagged a box of 1000 Winchester small pistol for $37.50 about 3 years ago and was about to buy a couple of cases again when suddenly they were gone. Have been watching some videos about "remaking primers" and really don't want to get into that. Some CCI 550 primers were for sale, so I bought 'em. I always load moderate charges anyway so I will have to make do for my 9mm and .357.
Nice video! It was a smart move on your end to test different kinds of primers. For me I did a very similar test with Alliant 2400. I found I got better accuracy and burn using a srp or spm primer vs a standard pistol primer. I take what people say on forums or other literature within a grain of salt. If you look up 2400 and small pistol magnum, people freak out saying you can’t do that and you should only use a small pistol primer and Bro pressure spikes! As a reloader it’s up to you to develop safe and good quality ammo. If you work up loads safely, you aren’t doing anything wrong is the key message here.
There are so many things we could test and change that there's no way anybody has any absolutes in reloading. There is no always or never. If you know the boundaries of the things you're testing you can try things that aren't right off the book. You obviously shouldn't load 50bmg with Titegroup, or 9mm with H50bmg, but there's a bit more wiggle room than most would think - Especially in the case of just changing a primer. Here, I knew I wasn't at max, or even near it, so I knew using the hotter primer wouldn't spike on me, and the lower would be even softer than that. I'm rambling now and you already know the point I'm making. Stay safe, I hope you have a good holiday 🇺🇸👍👊
Interesting testing of different primers. I need to start doing that with my reloads. How much, if any notable difference is there usually between standard primers of different brands?...CCI, Remington, Winchester, Federal.
I have no idea, to be honest. I've heard the super ELR/F Class/precision guys all stick to one primer and if you need to try to squeeze the last few feet of SD or hundredth of an inch out of the cartridge, the primer is the last to be changed. Then, they usually end up going back to what they had been using all along, from my limited researching on the topic. Do a test for us and share your findings! Thanks.
@@DummyRound Thanks for your insight. I always wondered about that and thought how much it would make a difference. I may try it through 2 bolt action rifles...a 223 and a .308. I think it will be a good test.
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I think it might be the powder. I’ve always gotten excellent results with A-9, Enforcer and 2400 with standard primers. I do use magnums with H-110 and L’il Gun.
Yeah, I haven't found much consistency from it in anything that I've loaded🤷♂️
@@DummyRound I’ve also found that brass needs to be from the same lot number to get decent consistency with any powder/cartridge combination.
@@876mpr I've honestly never tested down to the same lot, just by headstamp/date
@@DummyRound I separate the range pickup .45 ACP brass I use for action shooting by head stamp , but my spreads with A2 and Titegroup are pretty big. Those powders are always under 40 in Starline cases from the same lot.
I reckon I'll have to test mixed vs Starline in 38 or 357 and see what happens🇺🇲👍
Good stuff DR! I'm using small magnum pistol because that's what was available and I bought 1K. I loaded (my son helped, I'm teaching him as I'm learning) about 150 .38 special rounds with some cast bullets I got for free from one of my friendly local shops. We shot almost all of them today and had a great time. He is growing to love the revolvers as much as the autos! Keep up the awesome videos brother!
Gotta take what you can get. They might also work in 9mm or some semis depending on how hard your striker or hammer falls. I'd load two or three to test that if you want to. Anyways, that's awesome the boy is getting involved. Thanks for stopping in, my friend👍🇺🇸
The last time I had bought bulk primers was a couple of cases of 5000 Wolf small pistol for $109.00 each at a gun show a few years ago. I snagged a box of 1000 Winchester small pistol for $37.50 about 3 years ago and was about to buy a couple of cases again when suddenly they were gone. Have been watching some videos about "remaking primers" and really don't want to get into that. Some CCI 550 primers were for sale, so I bought 'em. I always load moderate charges anyway so I will have to make do for my 9mm and .357.
Pretty gross out there these days. I just saw an old flyer for Federal GMM for $130 a case of 5k. Too bad it'll never go back down to that 😭
The extreme spreads were kind of wild with both using that powder .
Not too perty. Almost 1.5gr under max, so maybe it'd tighten up near the top end?
@@DummyRound Maybe ?
Only one way to find out...
Nice video! It was a smart move on your end to test different kinds of primers. For me I did a very similar test with Alliant 2400. I found I got better accuracy and burn using a srp or spm primer vs a standard pistol primer. I take what people say on forums or other literature within a grain of salt. If you look up 2400 and small pistol magnum, people freak out saying you can’t do that and you should only use a small pistol primer and Bro pressure spikes! As a reloader it’s up to you to develop safe and good quality ammo. If you work up loads safely, you aren’t doing anything wrong is the key message here.
There are so many things we could test and change that there's no way anybody has any absolutes in reloading. There is no always or never. If you know the boundaries of the things you're testing you can try things that aren't right off the book. You obviously shouldn't load 50bmg with Titegroup, or 9mm with H50bmg, but there's a bit more wiggle room than most would think - Especially in the case of just changing a primer. Here, I knew I wasn't at max, or even near it, so I knew using the hotter primer wouldn't spike on me, and the lower would be even softer than that. I'm rambling now and you already know the point I'm making. Stay safe, I hope you have a good holiday 🇺🇸👍👊
@@DummyRound You nailed it! Yeah you definitely had a starting charge going on for you. I think if you add more you’ll see better results
@@DummyRound I hope you have a good holiday too! I’m on the road working but definitely can’t wait to get back to the reloading press!
Yep, primers make a difference! Good comparison.
Not my best shooting, but there was a pretty significant difference. Thanks🇺🇸👍
My new chrono just came and I need to do some 357 loads.
Heck yeah! I need to load more as well👍🇺🇸
Interesting testing of different primers. I need to start doing that with my reloads. How much, if any notable difference is there usually between standard primers of different brands?...CCI, Remington, Winchester, Federal.
I have no idea, to be honest. I've heard the super ELR/F Class/precision guys all stick to one primer and if you need to try to squeeze the last few feet of SD or hundredth of an inch out of the cartridge, the primer is the last to be changed. Then, they usually end up going back to what they had been using all along, from my limited researching on the topic. Do a test for us and share your findings! Thanks.
@@DummyRound Thanks for your insight. I always wondered about that and thought how much it would make a difference. I may try it through 2 bolt action rifles...a 223 and a .308. I think it will be a good test.
@@andyprairiedog no problem. I'll probably try something along those lines when I get a load dialed in as far as I can before the primer switch.
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