How Jack O'Connor Made the 270 Winchester Fly
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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I grew up in Enterprise, OR about 85 miles from Lewiston, ID. About 1955 or '56, my father pulled me out of school (5th or 6th grade) and we visited the Speer factory and then Jack O'Connor at his home. I still have a memory of his den with all the mounts on the wall. I'm not sure how or why Dad was able to obtain this visit, but I remember it fondly.
My nephew is a veterinarian in Enterprise. Small world.
Dad liked O'Connor and the .270 Winchester. He was a marksman ,but not a very good teacher. Shooting to him was so simple he didn't understand why everyone couldn't shoot close to him ,and that also was with a recurve. I just watched and listened like many did around him . He recommended the .270 for first Elk hunt against almost everyone I talked to . I took my Bull with my .270 with 50%luck at 500yards. The other 50%was listening to dad . I just pulled the trigger 😎
My father was similar. Used a recurve to shoot a rabbit one night. Just one of many situations. His rem 700 270 made amazing head shots among many running deer heart lung shoulder shot... per ONE SHOT lol
I ve came close. Maybe I m viewed similar. But I m not him lol I do t feel so anyways
@@johnsanders7337 Wow ❗ Your dad and mine may have been what they call "'Naturals" . Dads primary hunting was squirrel hunting with a 22 revolver. I never saw him miss. He was a WW2 vet and was under Patton and in charge of a special gun squad. He fought from Normandy through the Hedge row country and all the way to Bastogne. His eyes were bad and was allowed to cheat on his eye test to get in the Army. It has to be the ability to place vs aim . Running shots are extremely tough with a rifle or a handgun. Nice story about your dad. 😎
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I read every Jack O'Connor article my Outdoor Life Magazine ever had in it as a kid.
He was the go to article.
WOW! As a kid growing up I had a reading disability. I spent 2 years going to school year round and most of it was reading. I had to read anything and everything to improve. I read Mr. O'Connor a lot. back then they didn't call the Cops on you for reading about guns and hunting. I later became a hunter and target shooter. My next trip through Idaho I'll have to stop.
I'm a better reader now because of a good teacher (Mr. Carlson) and Mr. O'Connor. That and a lot of work I was willing to do to be better.
I remember growing up reading jack O’Connor I just loved him and of course I have a 270.
This is a classic video! In my late sixties being a life long hunter/shooter/loader/rifle lover, this is very special to me bringing back very special memories. My first rifle that I purchased was a .270 because of Jack. It only lasted 5 years as I gravitated to my beloved .280 then .280AI. Thanks Ron, this is special!
Great video. I just turned 54. Grew up and still live in Tucson, Arizona chasing southern AZ Coues deer and northern AZ elk. When I was a kid, my older brother and I would run to the mailbox and fight (he always won) over who got to read Outdoor Life and Field and Stream first. I miss good quality print journalism about hunting and firearms. We live in the You Tube age, and I will say that Mr. Spomer provides what I think is the best, objective, non political and well informed shooting and hunting content. Each video reminds me of racing my brother to the mailbox for Outdoor Life. Keep up the great work, Ron, and thanks for it. P.S. I also shoot amongst many rifles I own a Savage 110 American Classic in .270. It really is an American Classic. Took my first AZ bull elk with a basic 150 grain Remington CoreLokt bullet. One shot into vitals behind shoulder, dropped after 1 step.
Thanks for the compliment, Todd. Glad you are getting useful information from what we produce.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors You are welcome, Ron, and I and many others really do appreciate your work. Looking forward this Fall to taking my teenaged son in search of a Coues deer with my / will be his custom 6 mm Remington built on a Mauser '98 action. Can't wait. Cheers and best to you and your family.
I lucked out. Our high school library stocked both magazines.
And a strong second to your comments on Ron.
I started reading Jack O'Connor at age 15 in 1963. The money I earned mowing lawns paid for Outdoor Life, Sports Afield and Field and Stream magazines. Jack was my favorite writer of that magical time; started buying his books as I could afford them and today I have all his works. His writing style and others of his era was far more entertaining than what today's outdoor writers offer. His stories were beautifully framed and seasoned with practical knowledge and subtle humor. His custom rifles were my inspiration and why I still like walnut and blued steel. BTW, used these type rifles in good and lousy weather and never had a failure. Properly sealed wood is as good as anything.
This I’ve Got To See Ron Since The .270 Winchester Is My Go To Rifle In my Model 70 😀😮😀
Jack O'Conner wrote a book, "The Hunting Rifle". He recounted making a 300 yard shot on a big bull elk in front of a gun-savvy guide in Wyoming one time. The 150gr .270 bullet entered through the ribs high on the left side, angled down through the lungs and smashed the right shoulder. He said the bull was "down and stone dead before I could get another cartridge in the chamber." After surveying the damage, the guide responded, "If anyone ever tells me the .270 isn't an elk cartridge, I'll tell him he's nuts."
That book is on my right on the stand. Great book!
I read that book when I was 10 years old. It's influence on me carries on to this day.
I got a new-in-box Model 70 Featherweight in .270 for $500 from my uncle that needed some dough. My dad gave me a Leupold VX3 4.5x-14 because he switched to a Trijicon. I sighted it in, in 2 shots. I backed up to 225 and put the next 2 bullets together. I was dumbfounded. I named the gun Needle and sent all my other rifles to backup status. I've killed so many whitetails with it in the past 5 years. It is the best gun I own. Hornady .140 grain SSTs. "I'm not sayin'..." I'm sayin' that's what happened.
Jim, you say that anecdote about the guide praising the .270 as a viable elk cartidge comes from his book "The Hunting Rifle"? I want to know because I'm trying to decide on which way to go cartidge wise.
@@donl3634 Yes it does. My Uncle, who not only hunted but was a part time gunsmith gave me that book before he passed. In the front of the book, he wrote me a note: "Read this and you'll understand why you NEED a .270!"
I remember watching Curt Gowdy host, The American Sportsman. I sure learned a lot from many of the old writers. It was a pleasure to see both of you communicate and interact.
Me too, I picked up a fly rod in 1963 because of Joe Brooks on the Wide Wide World of Sports with Curt Cowdy that segment became the American Sportsman. I also developed a real hatred for Football that would preempt American sportsmen. I am 67 now. At one time I had not one 270 I had 5. I got a line on a 270 Barrel for a Blaser R-93 that I shoot these days. I will have a 270 again.
@@GeorgeSemel I own 3 270’s and 1 270 Wby Magnum.
What a great writer! I own several of his books and have read them many times.
I remember jack O'Connor.i read about him when I was young in gun magazines
This was truly a great video. The 270 is obviously one of the greats and was Jack O’Connor. Thank you for sharing this.
Great video about an iconic writer, conservationists, and hunter. Really appreciated it, thanks for posting!
You're welcome, Paul.
One of the best videos you have done lately, wish you would do more like it.
Thanks Lee. I'll try.
I grew up reading all the outdoor magazines. The wait from month to month for each to arrive, then devouring it from cover to cover was a major part of my youth.
Jack O'Connor was probably my favorite, although I really enjoyed Jim Carmichael as well.
My grandfather traveled from Kansas to Vernal, Utah every fall for a month every year during the 1930's and early 1940's. They would fish for a week then hunt deer. This was horse packing in the mountains with the canvas tents. During those days you could harvest a deer for someone else if they had a permit, and they would fill out the tags for a couple dozen people in Vernal.
I never had the chance to meet him, but he was a remarkable man cut very much from the same cloth as O'Connor. I still have his Winchester model 54 in.270. This rifle and my grandfather accounted for over 200 deer in Utah.
What I found most interesting in this video was how they mentioned the conservation successes and how that generation had to travel to hunt. Back iny grandfather's time there were no deer in Kansas, and Colorado had been all but hunted out.
Love my model 70 featherweight chambered in .270 kicks a little harder as I get older, but only at the range. When in the field it's a pleasure to carry and shoot. I would like to think Jack O'Connor had a great deal of influence on the .270 win. but after ww2 scopes became more popular and available to the public. Using a scope really brought out the best of the .270
I'm glad he mentioned Elmer Keith. I know Jack and Elmer didn't like each other but their diatribe was legendary
I remember absolutely wearing out my copy of field and stream each month, and one other one besides Boy's Life, reading it over and over until the next month's edition. Those were the days!
O'Connor, Gresham, Gresham, and Spomer. WOW. Doesn't get much better than that.
In the late 70,s I used to wait for my Outdoor life Mag to arrive each month
Loved this. I remember watching Grits on American Sportsman when I was a teenager, reading Jack O'Conner and all the old greats. I have always been a model 70 fan. Loved the 3 position safety.
Shot an 8 point Sat Nov 18th 2023 with my 50 yr old ruger m77 sporter with a 130 grain hornady whitetail at 107 yrds. Hit it in the right shoulder, dropped like a rock. The bullet didn't exit. Put a barrel dampener on it and greatly improved accuracy. I've shot Remington, federal and hand loads. Hornady lead tip shoots most accurate in my rifle. Tried the ballistic tip and they were all over the place. Love my 270!
Always have been a big fan, especially enjoyed the conversation 😊
Love this episode, reminds me of those short stories in outdoor life. I loved them and looking at those old rifles. Reminded me of the time when I use to dream of sleeping in an old canvas military tents and dreaming of big bucks. Most of all spending time with family. Thank you again for this show, brought back a lot of warm childhood memories and rifles I always wanted. Thanks Ron
Love my 270. It's my "go-to" rifle along with my 30-30. It's just flat out accurate and loves the 150 gr rounds. Wood stock and blued barrel, it's never failed me.
In modern times we miss out on the specialty and dedication that few went through to open the door to a whole new field in the industry. I see nothing wrong with variety in the new age of internet entertainment, but for serious information we still have guys like you out here doing good work.
Jack O'Conner and Outdoor Life taught me to read . my first rifle a Ruger 77 with a wood stock in .270 win. also one in 358 win.later Elmer Keith would like !! I have most of there books . Great men both .
I tell my boys (11 and 13) how blessed I was growing up in the '80s (graduated high school in 1989). I used to get much needed extra credit in science class writing papers on different gun articles. Jon Sundra, Jeff Cooper, Bob Milek, and I think Ron Spomer was getting started back then too. How can I leave out Grits and Tom Wooten
My first bolt gun was a 270 Ruger 77R, from reading about Jack O Conner in outdoor life, what a legend. I love that gun, been almost 50 years, still my go to gun.
I grew up reading "Shooting Times" magazine. I learned so much reading the work of legends like Skeeter Skelton, George Nonte, Dick Metcalf, P.O. Ackley, Clair Rees, Dick Eades. I miss those days!!!
I miss the magazines. Growing up as a kid I read and re-read all the old American Rifleman magazines from the 60's through the 80's. I learned and lived so many of those stories along side Jack and then later Jim Shockey and many others. Dreamed that maybe one day I will make it out there. Probably never will but maybe.
I’m a member of the a newer generation never knew about guys like o Connor, Elmer Keith and Whelen,but this channel has really opened my eyes on older cartridges (I’ve loved older guns) but proud to say I bought a pre 64 Winchester 70 in 270
Hello Ron,
Thanks for another nice episode with your friend Tom G. Keep up the great work Mr. Spomer.
Ron is great.
As for conservation, that really is an important thing. What we have to remember is that in the 19th century many people were hunting for market. This was true of deer and ducks and other animals. I hunted on a farm owned by my ex-wife's family in central Illinois. I was at a B&B down there once (big family gathering, no room for us in the family homes). This house was still owned by the descendants of the man who built it. There was an old photograph (a d
I wish I know there was a Jack O center in Lewiston. Also great to see Grits' son. I miss those writers from my youth, Jack, Elmer, Grits, Jim Carmichael to name a few. Larger than life guys.
Now we got that liberal twink Rinella who has done more to ruin the back-country than any other man.
One of your best videos.
Outdoor Life, Jeff Cooper, Charlie Askins, Guns and Ammo, Les Bowman, Elmer Keith, Fur, Fish and Game. I was a freshman in high school in 1966. Just yesterday a clip of the Eagles at the California Jam in 1974. Please step up patriots and save the county that was.
I would like to add. Perhaps more folks should check out Scott Kestersen andMike Adams. I made my initial comments for a reason We are facing some very challenging times
I was a subscriber till the end. I was deeply saddened when Field & Stream and Outdoor Life quit sending issues. I never activated the online subscription they sent me in place of the magazines I had already paid for. I believe the .270 is a good round. It and the .30-06, along with the .308 have really laid a lot of critters down. They all three just work if you put a bullet in the engine room.
We're not losing anything. Now, granted people have to improve their BS filters, but the fact of decentralizing the distributors of information is not a bad thing. What it means is that a magazine can't push doctrine AND branded selling routines at a body.
It means that you, Ron Spomer, your experience and valuable information won't be lost to the annals of time, and that if you produce quality content, no matter your age, you'll have a voice in this sphere.
Magazines full of ads led us to 2022 where people are still willing to buy an underperforming, poorly quality controlled brand just because they bought into an advertising scheme 20 years ago. People's voices, your voice, are a more powerful, and more useful thing.
I am glad that you're still using your voice to give out high quality information. I hope you keep at it.
Great talk guys! I grew up reading Jim Carmichael but when I discovered Cactus Jack's writing, I couldn't get enough. Through Jack's writings, I learned the correct way to carry a rifle on a horse. Today when I see people doing it wrong, I just smile. You would be surprised at how many western hunting guides get it wrong. Tom, I always read your father's stuff in Sports Afield. Great writer. Thanks guys!
I probably will never make it there. Thank you Ron, for visiting Tom and showing off the museum.
I feel even better about my firearms and ammunition buying now, did not know I was contributing to conservation via Pittman-Robertson.
.270 win. is my favorite. Great video sir. I miss the magazines. I have magazines I saved since I started hunting in 1985. I still love reading them too this day.
i just built a 1/8.5 twist 270 that shoots 150s insanely well and it flattens deer and elk
Why 8.5"? Are you planning to load 162 or 175-grainers from 6.8 Western?
@@PaulVerhoeven2 yes
@@alexcurry5541 IDK if you know this, the 162 will actually be harder to stabilize.
Fantastic video Ron! Some great history there and a wonderful presentation. Thanks for giving me a great idea to take a road trip! 😀
Thanks Ron anb Tom. Great guys.
Good show. Thank you.
In my house Growing up there was always an old hunting magazine laying around And the ironic thing is that neither my grandfather, father, Uncle or my brother we're hunters we were fishermen but I grew up reading these old magazines and I always was in amazement of All the weapons and animals they we're hunting .
Wish I would have known you gentlemen was in town. Would have been a honor to meet you both.
And the dvd about Jack is a very good one to find also.
Read Jack O Connor articles in Outdoor Life for years. The 1950s through the early 2ooo s where the Print Magazine Golden Era and was excellent source of hunter information with many talented outdoor writers who would go on hunt trip and then write about it along with pictures. Hunting trips are now recorded on video and have taken the place of magazines in many cases. Ron does a good job reporting and testing all types of guns and what game and what gun go together and thousands appreciate what he does for outdoor sports.
Thanks fasx56. Yes, the 20th century was the Golden Era for outdoor magazines.
I missed out on a Very similar To Eleanor’s CZ at auction. I’m carefully watching the market place, as that CZ in a similar lower recoil , flat shooting caliber is exactly what I’ve come to think of as the ultimate mix of function, beauty and art. They don’t make them like this anymore, or rather they don’t make them at a price that I’d be willing to take to the field and subject to possible destruction.
Ultimately a firearm can’t be so valuable that it belongs in a museum.
You only live once..
And now a replacement Elk herd growing in TENNESSEE! THey regularly stop traffic in Cherokee, TN.
Awsome program gentlemen!
I read Jack O]Conner first, in my copy of Outdoor Life first. I remember when Norma 205 powder was first released in the US. Jack had .270 Win loads to popularize the powder and cartridge. Of course, the Norma distribution in the US was screwed up and that powder did not stay available long. Later Jack introduced us to Reloader 22 with loads for the .270 Winchester. I believe the improvement and availability in rifle scopes made the .270 Winchester a worthwhile cartridge. Particularly in the West.
Great video with a lot of good stories and knowledge.
So much truth in the talk regarding Tom’s father who spent all those years as an editor and expert compared to all the internet experts that we see nowadays - today online there is just too much stupid unscientific testing and none-fact talking from people that seems to hardly know anything physics, ballistics, or game. So, Ron please keep up the good work and keep educating us :)
And it was some good advice you guys gave regarding Africa and calibers- as a hunter who has taken down +100 African plain game animals then I have learned a few things about hunting those. In most cases, a good shooting stick for better shoot placement is better than a bigger caliber - even though the caliber is in the lower end for it then the 270win + the right bullet can take down a Zebra with no issue. Shooting African plain game doesn’t require any magic tricks or magnums, just good shooting placement, and the 30-06 with a flat-shooting bullet will cover it all.
A fantastic video! Very interesting!
Would love to have seen more of the rifles and some history behind them. Great video Ron.
Ron is the new jack Oconner Elmer Keith !! IMHO ....
Great segment!
Had the 25-06 been available in 1943, mighta been his choice. Cant argue with that. Love a 270 but love my 25-06 so much more
😜 I can't wait to take it to the "Next Level"! 🤣
Great video.
Ya Jack and the rifle scope both made the 270. It started off slow but with the scope and Jack behind it the 270 could do no wrong!
Great Show Ron.
Thanks Bob.
Still have and use my post-64 M70 that I purchased almost 40 years ago.
The last native Pennsylvania elk was shot in 1877. the elk restoration project in Pennsylvania was started in 1913. However unfortunate these circumstances are Pennsylvania was only “Elkless” for 36 years. Most of the Continent had a subspecies of elk rumors are there was one heard of eastern elk near Ontario in the 1980s.
When looking at the rifle of Eleanor's and the Model 70 30-06 I see that both rifles have a Weaver K series scope on them. The .270 didn't really become famous until Weaver came up with the K series scopes. Finally a good scope was available to the average budget. It was only after the K series came out that .270 rifles began to really sell, before that the sales numbers were pretty low.
Where we go one, we go all.
Excellent presentation Ron. I well remember Grits Gresham and his writings. Bob Brister, Skeeter, Bill Jordan, Carmichael etc. I believe I still have some magazines with all of their columns in my collection of old magazines from back when I was younger. I have often wondered if all the bickering between O'Connor and Keith was made up in coordination to boost magazine sales as well as hunting equipment and trips etc.
Nitro, I think the Keith/O'Connor feud was part real, part ginned up. Either way, it worked. And readers who paid attention learned things about ballistics.
Well, the 270 Winchester is an excellent cartridge, and it is getting even better with modern bullets and faster twist barrels. Jack simply chose an excellent cartridge, and shot it well, getting its full potential.
I bet he looked after those rifles like his babies looking at the condition. Knew his stuff and knew his rifles inside and out. Just so impressive.
This is a good book too, lol. Predator Hunting: Proven Strategies That Work From East to West.
I just purchased a Howa 1500 in 270
I like the .270 l have owned 2. I shot a couple of deer with them. I never sell guns but l do give them away. One .270 l gave to my brother after he had shoulder surgery. The other one l fixed up nice and gave it to my Granddaughter. It's a good round that is versatile to reload.
It seems like a long time ago when I was a kid everyone either hunted with the 270 or the 30-06 some used a lever gun in a 30-30 or 32 special but there wasn’t synthetic stock guns and everyone if they used a scope it was a 2x or a 4 power and no more than a 6 power scope
Winchester model 70 the best rifle ever made my opinion
It is the same in Canada. The only money that goes to conservation is what comes in through hunting and fishing license fees.
😁 Great Show! Was that picture of you hunting Chuckers Ron? 😂
Yes, that was a photo of me being beaten up by chukars in Hell's Canyon last fall.
🤠 If you hunt near the Montana/Idaho Boarder their are some Monster Bull Elk (And Giant Mule Deer, if you can find them? Though I know that Idaho has some other great hunting areas, as I used to live their.)! Also, that area has the best grouse hunting I have ever seen as well! I used to have a picture of a bull elk that someone else took (it was a Non-Typical with baseball bat drop tines and was something like an 11x13, but I don't know what it scored)! I also saw the biggest elk that I will ever see up there, and that is really saying something - since I've hunted both the Missouri Breaks and Near Yellowstone Park back in it's heyday and nothing even came close to this monster! In one area that I hunt, the guy that owns the cabin has a couple of bulls - 7×8 and 8x9 that you can't get your hands around all the way up the rack and a taxidermy friend of mine has 4 sheads (matching drops) with 15" to 16" bases that would be in the 420" to 440" range (and I know right where he found them 😁), but nothing as big as what I saw (I was with a buddy that saw it too, well before hunting season and it was still in velvet, which made it look even larger)! In this case, you live along the right side of the Mountain Range! Too bad your hunting seasons their are much shorter! 😭 The Big Bulls seem to know that too and cross back and forth along the boarder in a very untimely way! 🤣 Though I have seen some beautiful mule deer taken from the Montana side, they seem to have become quite scarce now! ☹
I started out with a .270 and wised up and graduated to 6.5x55
Does the center (or anyone else) sell reprints of Jack's work?
It would be great to find a source for his books and articles.
New sub! Liked 😀😃🙏😁
I gotta be honest 6.8 western makes no sense to me. When you neck down usually you also drop weight and decrease the recoil. I think people are so excited about bc which in the first 200-300 yards just doesn’t matter. Look at a 100g 243 with a 1/10 twist and a 6 creed 108 with a 1/8 twist…… it doesn’t matter until you hit 700-1000 yards. In my opinion there are too many variables beyond 300 to make an ethical shot. 270 is great and I would rather have that than a 6.8 western.
It is a short action 270 which has a barrel twist fast enough to shoot heavier bullets.
@@texpatriot8462 does a short action really matter in a bolt gun?
@@texpatriot8462 if ima shoot heavier bullets id move up to 30 cal...or a 7mm rem mag
@@sparky_-mf2cs I chose a long action Big Horn Origin for my new hunting (280AI) build. But, I also have a SA Savage I hunt deer with. If I ever switch the barrel on the Savage, getting 270 performance from it would be nice and the 6.8 Western would be on my list.
I don't want to kill anything, but I respect the endeavors of those who can.
I may buy one on its 100th birthday….coming in 2025…….lol. I may not wait that long.
Ron, what do you think of the new Ruger-Marlin 1895s? Also would there be a significant velocity difference between the 19inch and 16 inch barrels in 45-70
I haven't use one of the new ones, but if there are a tightened up, more precisely made version of the old, great. You should see appreciable MV gain from the longer barrel. I'd guess 90- to as much as 150 fps depending on powder/bullet.
Any videos on where to start on an African hunt a budget?
Do a search for South Africa and Namibia plains game hunts. Ascertain if the ranch on which you'll hunt is high fenced or low and how large. The more expansive the better. Some ranch hunts include introduced species, some only native species. Some hunts are on "communal lands" on which the PH manages harvest for sustainable use. Check it all out. A large, dramatic free-range ranch N. of Port Elizabeth, SA, hunted by Crusader Safaris is a grand adventure with free range game. Truly big hills there, almost mountains. Namibia has many great desert habitat ranch hunts. I've had fine hunts with Immenhof Safaris and Werner von Seydlitz. Custom tours/hunts with Dirk Debod, Jamy Traut. Just start digging.
If you don’t store your rifle in a rain barrel, wood is wonderful. I don’t want any rubber rifles!
Just like Elmer Keith and the 8mm Rem Mag . LOL , actually he hated that cartridge .
I asked Harold Knight what Turkey call works the best to kill gobblers… in his typical fashion he sad…. The one you know how to use the best.
O'Connor was a blow hard. Really full of himself. However, I always read his stuff. I subscribed too Outdoor Life.
all the 270 is 30,06 necked down goes a little faster and a bit flatter but thats it , your aim is much more important
270 wheatherby Magnum
6 more minutes
The .270 is just a 7mm bullet flying at optimal speeds... and to be fair, that's all anyone could ask for, unless you're hunting the very largest of game. As they say, if it ain't broke...
Still prefer the magazines Over the internet
Actually it wasn’t until the scope was invented in the late 40’s and rifles were not drilled and tapped until after the scope was made in the 50’s that made the it popular . Jack didn’t fly the .270 in fact any moose he killed wasn’t with one bullet it was the second shot he would constantly take to kill many moose. Even he’s son stated that he father Jack would say that the 30-06 was a more versatile cartridge. When Jack started hunting with the .270 when scope weren’t made.
Natchez Shooters Supply has primers in stock.
The reason for the shortages has nothing to do with “C_o_v_i_d,” but everything to do with the DOT surcharge on ammo and primer “Hazmat delivery fees.” Its $19.99 PER ORDER has completely knee-capped the supply industry. Blocking primer and powder supply= Gun “Control.”
Imagine a radio talk show about all things guns, shooting and hunting. That would never happen here in a million years.
I don't know where "here" is for you, 2 Clicks, but Tom's Gun Talk Radio airs in more than 200 stations across the USA.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors Australia. You can barely even public admit you are a shooter or hunter here, lest you feel the wrath of the WOKE public or the Nanny State government.