Really, I feel like these moments are oftentimes priceless, could literally just put a clip out with Ferro in it and just title it "Ferro is in this one" and I'd 100% watch, I still love the other clips too, don't get me wrong, but the topic is typically more interesting when Ferro has to show up
The segment from 7:30 to 8:10 is on point. I never take any of them seriously cause they never took any time to try and understand anything and just blindly hate cause their favorite people or communities also do. The equivalent if a child who refuses to eat broccoli without every trying it.
5:05 Exactly how it should be handled. Deal with bullshit by letting it hit the wall instead of stepping out to take it to the face. It's that easy. Also if someone's saying something stupid, ask them to give credible sources backing up their claims instead of going and grabbing sources yourself to prove what is common knowledge.
Hearing the input is so correct. There's times where I see a callout thread, only for me to read through the entire thing and go "Can't this be solved in DMs?"
If both parties wanted to solve it like reasonable people, sure. But sometimes one party stonewalls the other and forces them to air out the dirty laundry to get any kind of recompense. And some other times, one party is so pissed at the other party for what they believe in, for something they said or simply because they're from a certain category of people that they want to ruin their career/life and tarnish their reputation, and will stoop to many incredible lows to achieve this.
@@MarqFJA87 Which ruins their own career instead. Most of the issues I see VTubers having, they're almost always small VTubers with practically no following getting wrapped up in nonsense.. And in each case, I see a severe lack of experience as individuals, perhaps they've never held a job before, never learned to socialize in a professional manner. Who knows, but it's this lack of experience which these people need to gain.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 I think more important than lack of experience is lack of negative consequences, and the resulting arrogance from that. Many of these people's behavior resembles that of high school bullying and toxicity, and we know how unfortunately often that such high schoolers get away with their bullshit. The difference now, of course, is that they're trying to apply that behavior to an environment where there is far more potential for public exposure of their actions, and consequentially far higher odds of getting publicly crucified and effectively blacklisted from many opportunities they could've otherwise benefited from. Similar comparison can be made to toxic workplace environments with a relatively limited number of employees and sufficient insulation from the public. TLDR these people haven't realized that what works in high school / small workplaces does not work anywhere near as well on the open expanse of the internet. And of course, someone who isn't used to facing any negative consequences of their misbehavior will most probably not react well when they finally start facing them.
I'm going to be honest, I have blocked like 3-5 vtuber drama personalities and all that shit DISAPPEARED IMMEDIATELY. It's literally so few people who actually want to start shit.
In short, some fan merch companies have performed badly, or not at all. And instead of fixing it, they just declare bankruptcy and leave fans and vtubers stranded. Bao talked a bit about it and how hard it is for Vtubers, since it's near impossible to get money back from people like that, and Vshojo decided to switch merch companies towards something in house
Their name is gumpai. A fan commissioned a plush of her, and the maker had some extras and were selling them on her discord and the vtuber got upset that he was making money off her design etc
Impromptu "collabs" between Michi and Ferro, are some of my favourite things to see.
And I like the model he has, it's mostly a png type but the mouth has motion controls of some sort.
Really, I feel like these moments are oftentimes priceless, could literally just put a clip out with Ferro in it and just title it "Ferro is in this one" and I'd 100% watch, I still love the other clips too, don't get me wrong, but the topic is typically more interesting when Ferro has to show up
Ferro the GOAT of drama advisors.
Ferro and Michi have great comedic chemistry
The segment from 7:30 to 8:10 is on point. I never take any of them seriously cause they never took any time to try and understand anything and just blindly hate cause their favorite people or communities also do. The equivalent if a child who refuses to eat broccoli without every trying it.
5:05
Exactly how it should be handled. Deal with bullshit by letting it hit the wall instead of stepping out to take it to the face. It's that easy.
Also if someone's saying something stupid, ask them to give credible sources backing up their claims instead of going and grabbing sources yourself to prove what is common knowledge.
Hearing the input is so correct. There's times where I see a callout thread, only for me to read through the entire thing and go "Can't this be solved in DMs?"
If both parties wanted to solve it like reasonable people, sure. But sometimes one party stonewalls the other and forces them to air out the dirty laundry to get any kind of recompense. And some other times, one party is so pissed at the other party for what they believe in, for something they said or simply because they're from a certain category of people that they want to ruin their career/life and tarnish their reputation, and will stoop to many incredible lows to achieve this.
@@MarqFJA87 Which ruins their own career instead. Most of the issues I see VTubers having, they're almost always small VTubers with practically no following getting wrapped up in nonsense.. And in each case, I see a severe lack of experience as individuals, perhaps they've never held a job before, never learned to socialize in a professional manner. Who knows, but it's this lack of experience which these people need to gain.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 I think more important than lack of experience is lack of negative consequences, and the resulting arrogance from that. Many of these people's behavior resembles that of high school bullying and toxicity, and we know how unfortunately often that such high schoolers get away with their bullshit. The difference now, of course, is that they're trying to apply that behavior to an environment where there is far more potential for public exposure of their actions, and consequentially far higher odds of getting publicly crucified and effectively blacklisted from many opportunities they could've otherwise benefited from.
Similar comparison can be made to toxic workplace environments with a relatively limited number of employees and sufficient insulation from the public.
TLDR these people haven't realized that what works in high school / small workplaces does not work anywhere near as well on the open expanse of the internet.
And of course, someone who isn't used to facing any negative consequences of their misbehavior will most probably not react well when they finally start facing them.
I'm going to be honest, I have blocked like 3-5 vtuber drama personalities and all that shit DISAPPEARED IMMEDIATELY. It's literally so few people who actually want to start shit.
1:33 Of course I know the exact beef he's talking about...
2:05 Oh... And that one too.
Elaborate
@emigdiovargas8960 not furthering drama in the comments if they won't discuss it
What’s the fan merch drama ferro’s talking about?
In short, some fan merch companies have performed badly, or not at all. And instead of fixing it, they just declare bankruptcy and leave fans and vtubers stranded. Bao talked a bit about it and how hard it is for Vtubers, since it's near impossible to get money back from people like that, and Vshojo decided to switch merch companies towards something in house
Their name is gumpai. A fan commissioned a plush of her, and the maker had some extras and were selling them on her discord and the vtuber got upset that he was making money off her design etc