@@StefanMiniCooper you ordered from the AliExpress link in the description? If the speakers are also powering the tweeters, shouldn't there be some kind of crossover to separate the relevant mid and high frequencies? Stefan, now that you installed the 4mids/tweets, are the subs adequate or do you think you shoulda got the subs too? Last thing, I assume you didn't install an amp... you know that the base small screen-style head unit that we have on our 'base' system only has 4 channels, so it shares the front mids with the subs. I'm wondering if this upgrade is good enough without getting an amp too. I'm not too fussed about getting the middle dash speaker, as you have to mess with the stock wiring... plus I don't see the point of a middle speaker.
@@jimilesaintno I ordered from another seller but they are looking the same. I had also the base system with the small screen but I replaced it with an Android big screen. For me there is also no need for the middle speaker, and no need for subwoofers. The sound improved a lot!
@@BestCarMods Yes easy enough replaced the same 4 speakers, with 4 Horns and tweeters. Just need to watch this video where to put the prying tool. Some clips where tighter the others! Defenitly worth the upgrade soundstage is much more clear now for only 240 euros. Apparantly the old speakers where distorting quite fast, these bo’s can handle higher volumes!
@@basholtman4103 hey, did you also replace the amplifier or other unit ? I have HIFI system and I find my speakers are distoting a bit and I was thinking to replace them with harman kardon or others but I am afraid that it will fry the amplifier
@@dragoss16 someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s impossible to fry an amplifier based on the connected speakers. You just hit max volume quicker based on the max output of the stock amplifier. I haven’t added a amplifier as I didn’t feel the need to go louder or clearer as it’s already a very good upgrade to just swap the stock speakers with the bo from ali.
@@basholtman4103 speakers have impedance or resistance, if the resistance is lower it will draw more current from the amp, putting more stress on the amp resulting in a sooner failure
Hi awesome video... I also have a 'base' system - 4x mids, 2x subs, small screen head unit with only 4 channels. I have some questions: 1) I see that the tweeters run from a connection on the back of the mids, as there is no wiring for tweeters on the base system. How does this work without a crossover? How can it distribute the relevant frequencies (mid/high)? 2) I read that because the head unit only has 4 channels, front two channels power both the mids AND the subs, so the sounds in the front is diminished compared to the back. Can this only be rectified if you install an amp... and how would the subs be wired if the exiting wiring is for only two channels? I assume you would have to run new cables from the boot where the amp is located to the subs? And then how would you be able to adjust the subs if the head unit only has settings to adjust bass/treble and fade/balance? 3) Is it possible to swap out the base screen and/or head unit for the widescreen version, hence allowing two things: a) ability to have CarPlay b) facilitate more audio channels and hence have more audio adjustments I know very little about all this as you can tell, so I'm not sure what the limitations are. I just need to improve on the crappy base system that was ordered with my 525d urrrgghhh :( 4) What's the purpose of the centre speaker in the dashboard? Is it necessary? Does it not just muddy the stereo sounds? 5) Are you sure the the link you provided to AliExpress are for GENUINE Harman/Kardon speakers? If I was more of a sceptic, I might think that they paid you to make a review for them to legitimise the store LOL. 6) Is it worth getting just the 4x mids/tweeters (€245), or is it not good enough without the subs (which themselves cost €215). If you get subs, and add an amp (€550) it starts to get crazy... and you could install a BavSound plug and play kit from the US for less.
1. basic capacitor as filter for high frequencies added to the tweeter 2.yes front is not capable of outputing higher power ... aka if you sit in the back and have high level of sound, the back is doing a better job ... in the subwoofer upgrade you will place separate wires for the front subs. 3. yes 4. from a quality point of view it is not needed ... we just use it as an additional source of sound 5. I wish they would have paid me :)) they did not even give me a discount ... inspecting the parts they seem ok... it is just hard to think that someone can sell the originals at that price ... 6. you get subs only when you are willing to fit an amp
Hey great video. Is this the same steps for a 2016 4 series gran coupe. - would any programming be needed / disconnect battery ? Or is it just straight swap and play
Hi thanks for the videos these were really helpful! I’m about to order but keen to see how you connect the centre speaker. I’ve heard you have to tap on the rear speakers (I’m also on the base audio) but not sure how to go about it.
Hi, you mentioned having a base spec speaker system in your car but i see that you have tweeters/enclosures on your front door A pillar - these are not present in the base spec cars?
Great video, thanks for making I have a F10 with the base stereo. Do you know if i will have the wires to connect the tweeters? I can see you had the hifi system so you did but not sure if they're present with the base stereo.
Hi, my car was also base... those wires where one of my inventions that did not really work that good. In the kit from the Chinese you get all you need ... all plug and play.
in my case I got only some speakers from Aliexpress that seem to be very good quality. depends how much money you want to spend. Money not an issue for my base stereo I would buy audison speakers + amp + calibrate all the sound after with the audison software.
@@BestCarMods Thanks. I’m looking in to buying a late model. But here in Sweden very few select bigger stereo options on their cars. Almost every car has base sound system. Feels good that there is an easy way to improv the sound.
Dude! Thanks for the video. But you didn’t show how you connected the speaker at all! There are loads of videos about taking the door card off and the vapour tape replacement is good advice. But not enough detail on the connections. Argh!
connection is easy. plug and play. and I think that it is shown in the video. car cable goes in speaker , speaker has an second out port. tweeter goes in second plug and all is connected
@@BestCarMods thanks for clarifying and I did suspect after having bought the exact same kit as you (delivered yesterday) that the tweeter went in the second port on the speaker, but my point was, which side? The connectors are the same and you appear in the few frames of video to have NOT connected the tweeter to the speaker, looks like you have like an additional harness cable or something. @2.11 in the vid, there is a 2nd port to the left of the port where the cable is plugged in. Is that where the tweeter goes because it looks like you split the cable coming out the port you plugged into and connected the tweeter to that. Look, it’s easy for you because you know what to do. As someone who has no idea i’d have appreciated some explanation rather than some music. Just trying to offer some positive feedback. There was another video which, like yours, spent more time on how to remove the door panel than how the speakers were wired. Thank you again for making the effort to post the video up, it was helpful.
@@MrHappyjolly :) you are very observant :) . regarding the speaker it does not matter which port, they are all in parallel. and yes my car has a separate harness because before buying this kit, I tried to make my own , used some other tweeters and had to splice some wires. for your install you just take wires from car, you plug them in the new speaker, plug tweeter also and you are good to go. if you have the time let me know what do you think about the quality of the sound. I am debating if I really want to buy speakers under the seats and amp
@@BestCarMods No worries. Mine is an F11 with base audio and from forum research I’ve done there are two things that i’m yet to answer. 1. Needing to code 674a into the CIC. This essentially enables more than the 4 channels of audio the headunit puts out. The HK system from factory is I believe 6CH from the headunit. 2. Additional amp. I’m fairly sure installing the HK (actually Harmon Becker) amp is needed for the full effect. It comes from factory with an amp and the headunit simply wasn’t designed to drive this many speakers on its own. I’d be interested to know since installing the tweeters yourself if you have the treble turned down in idrive. If so it’ll be because the headunit cannot do the crossover well enough, this is actually my largest concern you’ll just get lots of highs from the tweeter. I would just got ahead and get a used HK amp, but I’ve no idea whatsoever on how to wire it in other than it goes in the boot with a fibre cable to the headunit. No idea how the speakers are connected to it. I’m starting with all door and the middle installation while i’m also adding a carplay box, if i’m unhappy with the levels and sound the last part will be to work out retrofitting (and coding) the amp. This is all stuff i’m researching, take nothing at all as fact please! I know nothing! Also I’m a bass head so yeah, if I go as far as the amp installation i’ll definately get the subs
Ordered 4 tweeters and 4 speakers for my F10, I hope the sound will be much better! Thanks for your clear video 👍
let me know your opinion after you install them :)
@@BestCarMods I will do that if I don't forget it 🙃
@@BestCarMods Installed everything and I'm really happy about the sound quality! Nice upgrade😁
@@StefanMiniCooper you ordered from the AliExpress link in the description? If the speakers are also powering the tweeters, shouldn't there be some kind of crossover to separate the relevant mid and high frequencies? Stefan, now that you installed the 4mids/tweets, are the subs adequate or do you think you shoulda got the subs too? Last thing, I assume you didn't install an amp... you know that the base small screen-style head unit that we have on our 'base' system only has 4 channels, so it shares the front mids with the subs. I'm wondering if this upgrade is good enough without getting an amp too. I'm not too fussed about getting the middle dash speaker, as you have to mess with the stock wiring... plus I don't see the point of a middle speaker.
@@jimilesaintno I ordered from another seller but they are looking the same. I had also the base system with the small screen but I replaced it with an Android big screen. For me there is also no need for the middle speaker, and no need for subwoofers. The sound improved a lot!
DAM YOUR VIDEOS HAVE SAVED ME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, THANKYOU SO MUCH
Thanks for the how to video! Managed to upgrade my base f10 to bo 👌🏻
what is your opinion on the upgrade? was it easy? is it worth the effort and the cost ?
@@BestCarMods Yes easy enough replaced the same 4 speakers, with 4 Horns and tweeters. Just need to watch this video where to put the prying tool. Some clips where tighter the others! Defenitly worth the upgrade soundstage is much more clear now for only 240 euros. Apparantly the old speakers where distorting quite fast, these bo’s can handle higher volumes!
@@basholtman4103 hey, did you also replace the amplifier or other unit ? I have HIFI system and I find my speakers are distoting a bit and I was thinking to replace them with harman kardon or others but I am afraid that it will fry the amplifier
@@dragoss16 someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s impossible to fry an amplifier based on the connected speakers. You just hit max volume quicker based on the max output of the stock amplifier.
I haven’t added a amplifier as I didn’t feel the need to go louder or clearer as it’s already a very good upgrade to just swap the stock speakers with the bo from ali.
@@basholtman4103 speakers have impedance or resistance, if the resistance is lower it will draw more current from the amp, putting more stress on the amp resulting in a sooner failure
Hi awesome video... I also have a 'base' system - 4x mids, 2x subs, small screen head unit with only 4 channels. I have some questions:
1) I see that the tweeters run from a connection on the back of the mids, as there is no wiring for tweeters on the base system. How does this work without a crossover? How can it distribute the relevant frequencies (mid/high)?
2) I read that because the head unit only has 4 channels, front two channels power both the mids AND the subs, so the sounds in the front is diminished compared to the back. Can this only be rectified if you install an amp... and how would the subs be wired if the exiting wiring is for only two channels? I assume you would have to run new cables from the boot where the amp is located to the subs? And then how would you be able to adjust the subs if the head unit only has settings to adjust bass/treble and fade/balance?
3) Is it possible to swap out the base screen and/or head unit for the widescreen version, hence allowing two things:
a) ability to have CarPlay
b) facilitate more audio channels and hence have more audio adjustments
I know very little about all this as you can tell, so I'm not sure what the limitations are. I just need to improve on the crappy base system that was ordered with my 525d urrrgghhh :(
4) What's the purpose of the centre speaker in the dashboard? Is it necessary? Does it not just muddy the stereo sounds?
5) Are you sure the the link you provided to AliExpress are for GENUINE Harman/Kardon speakers? If I was more of a sceptic, I might think that they paid you to make a review for them to legitimise the store LOL.
6) Is it worth getting just the 4x mids/tweeters (€245), or is it not good enough without the subs (which themselves cost €215). If you get subs, and add an amp (€550) it starts to get crazy... and you could install a BavSound plug and play kit from the US for less.
1. basic capacitor as filter for high frequencies added to the tweeter
2.yes front is not capable of outputing higher power ... aka if you sit in the back and have high level of sound, the back is doing a better job ... in the subwoofer upgrade you will place separate wires for the front subs.
3. yes
4. from a quality point of view it is not needed ... we just use it as an additional source of sound
5. I wish they would have paid me :)) they did not even give me a discount ... inspecting the parts they seem ok... it is just hard to think that someone can sell the originals at that price ...
6. you get subs only when you are willing to fit an amp
Hey great video. Is this the same steps for a 2016 4 series gran coupe. - would any programming be needed / disconnect battery ? Or is it just straight swap and play
swap and play
Hey There, Nice Video 👍
I only need to replace the tweeters. Can I replace them without unclip the whole door Panel ?
you might ...
which one did you install the front door with? 4 / 4,5 Inch
Hi thanks for the videos these were really helpful! I’m about to order but keen to see how you connect the centre speaker. I’ve heard you have to tap on the rear speakers (I’m also on the base audio) but not sure how to go about it.
will make the time to do the install on my car and record the process. at the moment I have only the side ones and is ok.
Was this kit worth it in your opinion? Is it day and night difference?
all speakers. and over all yes.
Hi, you mentioned having a base spec speaker system in your car but i see that you have tweeters/enclosures on your front door A pillar - these are not present in the base spec cars?
those have been fitted by me
Great video, thanks for making
I have a F10 with the base stereo. Do you know if i will have the wires to connect the tweeters? I can see you had the hifi system so you did but not sure if they're present with the base stereo.
Hi, my car was also base... those wires where one of my inventions that did not really work that good. In the kit from the Chinese you get all you need ... all plug and play.
Non, il n' y a pas les connecteurs, tu dois avoir un cache en plastique à la place des tweeters.
do you find buying used harman kardon set better than buying another amplifier and off the shelf speakers for the car?
in my case I got only some speakers from Aliexpress that seem to be very good quality. depends how much money you want to spend. Money not an issue for my base stereo I would buy audison speakers + amp + calibrate all the sound after with the audison software.
Thanks so much
Any idea how to install them on the rear door cards? Do you need to use some sort of wiring loom?
Hi great video and detailed step nay step instructions !!!! Do you know if that system would fit an X3?
would think is very similar. look at the shop of the supplier and they should advertise a kit for the x3
Hey, do you put also in the back doors the speakers and tweeters ?
no.
Did you have the stock or the hifi system before the upgrade?
I had the base system
@@BestCarMods Thanks. I’m looking in to buying a late model. But here in Sweden very few select bigger stereo options on their cars. Almost every car has base sound system. Feels good that there is an easy way to improv the sound.
Hello, please tell me how is the sound quality without an amplifier with them? I've heard that speakers on the base system can wheeze at high volume.
with amps is the best sound I ever had in a car ;) better than factory bang and oluftsen
Did u have to fit amplifiers too ?
I did not have to, but I have eventually did because I wanted more power.
Hi, it's original harman cardon or aliexpress ?? Thanks
I would say that they are the original stuff. Was impressed with the quality.
Do you need to do anything else than this to get Hi-Fi packet?
add the amplifier
also your F10 seems to have tweeters already installed, is there a wire coming there by default even though my car does not have it?
that wire was a previous experiment that i have done. Ignore it :)
also what is that magic sound proof material you used? what company?
ebay.us/EUV0l1
ebay.us/59XXAq
@@BestCarMods nice thanks!
did you only do the driver and passenger front doors? big difference and was it worth it? ;)
Great video!
Where can I get these clips for the rear tweeters? 7:50
ebay.us/PVNmzn or ebay.us/WL8OeX
What way you installed radio to amp and amp to radio wires?From right side?
i don't understand the question
This speakers are good also for f11 ?
yes.
Should there not be amplifier
it can work even without.
What ratchets sizes ???
should be in the video
hey do i need to upgrade my amplifier?
you don't need to, but you might want to
Where is central speaker?
did not install yet ... don't really feel the need for it
Dude! Thanks for the video. But you didn’t show how you connected the speaker at all! There are loads of videos about taking the door card off and the vapour tape replacement is good advice. But not enough detail on the connections. Argh!
connection is easy. plug and play. and I think that it is shown in the video. car cable goes in speaker , speaker has an second out port. tweeter goes in second plug and all is connected
@@BestCarMods thanks for clarifying and I did suspect after having bought the exact same kit as you (delivered yesterday) that the tweeter went in the second port on the speaker, but my point was, which side? The connectors are the same and you appear in the few frames of video to have NOT connected the tweeter to the speaker, looks like you have like an additional harness cable or something. @2.11 in the vid, there is a 2nd port to the left of the port where the cable is plugged in. Is that where the tweeter goes because it looks like you split the cable coming out the port you plugged into and connected the tweeter to that.
Look, it’s easy for you because you know what to do. As someone who has no idea i’d have appreciated some explanation rather than some music. Just trying to offer some positive feedback. There was another video which, like yours, spent more time on how to remove the door panel than how the speakers were wired. Thank you again for making the effort to post the video up, it was helpful.
@@MrHappyjolly :) you are very observant :) . regarding the speaker it does not matter which port, they are all in parallel. and yes my car has a separate harness because before buying this kit, I tried to make my own , used some other tweeters and had to splice some wires. for your install you just take wires from car, you plug them in the new speaker, plug tweeter also and you are good to go. if you have the time let me know what do you think about the quality of the sound. I am debating if I really want to buy speakers under the seats and amp
@@BestCarMods No worries. Mine is an F11 with base audio and from forum research I’ve done there are two things that i’m yet to answer.
1. Needing to code 674a into the CIC. This essentially enables more than the 4 channels of audio the headunit puts out.
The HK system from factory is I believe 6CH from the headunit.
2. Additional amp. I’m fairly sure installing the HK (actually Harmon Becker) amp is needed for the full effect. It comes from factory with an amp and the headunit simply wasn’t designed to drive this many speakers on its own. I’d be interested to know since installing the tweeters yourself if you have the treble turned down in idrive. If so it’ll be because the headunit cannot do the crossover well enough, this is actually my largest concern you’ll just get lots of highs from the tweeter.
I would just got ahead and get a used HK amp, but I’ve no idea whatsoever on how to wire it in other than it goes in the boot with a fibre cable to the headunit. No idea how the speakers are connected to it.
I’m starting with all door and the middle installation while i’m also adding a carplay box, if i’m unhappy with the levels and sound the last part will be to work out retrofitting (and coding) the amp.
This is all stuff i’m researching, take nothing at all as fact please! I know nothing! Also I’m a bass head so yeah, if I go as far as the amp installation i’ll definately get the subs