The Deadly Great Lakes Storm of 1913: Lake Huron's Mystery Ship

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    The Great Lakes Hurricane of 1913 was one of the worst November storms to hit the area on record. Over the course of the blizzard, 12 ships were lost with all hands, and dozens more were stranded. The stories of the SS Charles S. Price launched in 1910, and the SS Regina, launched in 1907, two victims of the hurricane, somehow became entwined in a mystery that baffled the area at the time and still leaves unanswered questions today.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 The Great Lakes Storm of 1913
    4:08 Chapter 1: The Gathering Storm
    7:00 Chapter 2: Two Freighters
    11:10 Chapter 3: White Hurricane
    17:04 Chapter 4: Bodies and a Mystery Ship
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  • @BigOldBoats
    @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +58

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    Thank you so much for watching! Let me know if you're interested in seeing more Great Lakes stories!

    • @awildjared1396
      @awildjared1396 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will you also make a video covering the sinking of the freighter Daniel J Morrell, it was a freighter lost in 1966 with only one survivor.

    • @homeaccount1524
      @homeaccount1524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you cover the sinking of the SS Eastland too?

    • @NealBones
      @NealBones ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A channel named Stunning History just uploaded a video on this as well

    • @JM-iw3yp
      @JM-iw3yp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know how to look up ship wreck location? My family’s 70’ Schooner sank on the Great Lakes. And I’d love to find out where

    • @tearose9938
      @tearose9938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Re-gina. Re-ginald. Oh my it was like flipping Nails on a chalkboard. Please learn how to pronounce the flipping names

  • @joywebster2678
    @joywebster2678 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    My Dad sailed the Great Lakes on the Canadian Side starting as a teen, in the 40s and 50s. He was too short to be an engineer as he wanted since they shoveled coal into the big steamship engines. So he started as deckhand, and finished as a First mate with his Captains papers. He stepped away from this his great love for 2 reasons, 1. Advent of long haul trucking. 2. My mother wouldn't marry him if he was gone most of the year. He had incredible pictures from storms he sailed in. And oh the stories he told. He always signed on for the November sailings that ran into Lake Superior. He loved out running the ice forming and waves when he was wheelman. We always said he was born a little late for the heyday of shipping for life. He moved into Trucking. Many of his pictures are in the Marine museum in Toronto. As a kid I always wished he could have stayed on the Lakes since he missed them so. In his dementia days near the end he was talking to his shipmates and calling orders out for steering. Miss him. Thanks for this video.

    • @ToastCrunchThe1st
      @ToastCrunchThe1st ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wrote a short documentary

    • @RTFLDGR
      @RTFLDGR ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Your Father did indeed return to the Lakes in his dementia. He was there. Good for him.

    • @bold810
      @bold810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And he was no Gordon Lightfoot, either.
      ..but if you think of it, no body really is. Nope, not really.
      🎉

    • @tundrawomansays694
      @tundrawomansays694 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thanks for the information. I bet his stories were phenomenal!

    • @j.whiteoak6408
      @j.whiteoak6408 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@ToastCrunchThe1st
      Why is it that every time someone takes the time and effort to write a longer post that it comes under criticism from those who clearly have the attention span of a gnat, just because it took time? I was very happy to read it..and I would have read more had it been proffered. It was very interesting!

  • @imperialmodelworks8473
    @imperialmodelworks8473 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    One overlooked thing about 35ft seas on the great lakes vs 35ft seas on the ocean, is that the trough between them on the great lakes is so much smaller. I recall a saying from a coast guardsman who had been in very heavy seas in both, and it was something along the lines of "30ft waves on the Atlantic will throw you around, and rock the ship. 30ft waves in the great lakes will try to beat you to death and tear the ship apart.".

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Exactly. Also freshwater acts different than saltwater so the waves are a lot more jagged. The waves on the great lakes are a brutal chop, not a rolling motion.
      This is what I end up telling people who go "Oh 30 footers? Scoff! Those lakies have never been to the ocean so they don't know what a REAL storm looks like!"
      Yes, 30 footers on the ocean may not be a most critical scenario, but on the lakes they are almost a death sentence, even dealing with 10 footers on the Lakes can be incredibly dangerous, and most boaters on the Lakes have trouble with 5 footers.
      I've seen people say that people on the Great Lakes have "ocean envy" and accuse them of talking out their ass, or try to say that Lakers are "poorly built rustbuckets" and how they are big man and could "take the lakes no problem".
      But whenever they actually witness the boiling, choppy, freezing cold hellscape the lakes can quickly turn into it usually shuts them up.
      I myself have seen a comment by a merchant mariner who's been in both saying that rough seas on the lakes are "sailing straight into the teeth of a sawblade".
      The ocean is definitely huge and dangerous, but the lakes are no walk in the park either.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Ted Turner did the Chicago to Mackinac race one time.half way through the weather got bad. He later said the only time saw worse weather to race in was the Fastness in the Irish Sea

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@funnelvortex7722
      Every merchant sailor I ever talked to that came up the Seaway hated the Lakes.

    • @gryph01
      @gryph01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true!

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why they hell would anyone sail a boat in that with hurricane force winds?

  • @HistoryintheDark
    @HistoryintheDark ปีที่แล้ว +221

    The Captain truly stood by his post and went down with his ship, and he wasn't that much older than I am now. Rest in peace, Captain. You were one of the good ones.

    • @jessedierksheide
      @jessedierksheide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi

    • @fernandomarques5166
      @fernandomarques5166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh hey Darkness! Fancy seeing you here.

    • @philvanderlaan5942
      @philvanderlaan5942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are you doing here? Did Alfred e pearlman send you out looking for steam engines?

    • @saucypan-8796
      @saucypan-8796 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello history in the dark I didn't expect you here

    • @norml.hugh-mann
      @norml.hugh-mann 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know, I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO respect ti any captian that abandons his crew like that when they need then the most...The skipper is not absolved of their responsibility to the crew when the ship sinks and actually good leadership in the post-sinking but pre-rescue phase of a shipwreck is probably the most important duty ships officers have. It's just pathetic how so many chose to take the cowards way out of the predicament in days past to the point it became tradition....coincidentally it was also the period of time when the body count of people that made it to lifeboats was unacceptable..due in part to not having anyone with the knowledge to keep them alive surviving that long...due to that macabre tradition

  • @MechaWolf0
    @MechaWolf0 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    One of the last people to see the Charles S. Price and the Regina was Edward Kanaby, who was the wheelsman of the H. B. Hawgood. Shortly after, his captain ordered him to steer for deeper water, but Kanaby disobeyed the order and instead turned the Hawgood onto the shore. His actions likely saved the ship and its crew from a watery grave. His story is told in a song by Dan Hall titled The Wheelsman.

    • @aria5614
      @aria5614 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just listened to it. It's lovely and sad.

    • @wilsonriley1856
      @wilsonriley1856 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This channel just did a video on that incident.

    • @MechaWolf0
      @MechaWolf0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wilsonriley1856 And I enjoyed it.

  • @Delta_NWAB747fan
    @Delta_NWAB747fan ปีที่แล้ว +157

    As a Michigander I love when you upload videos on Classic Freighters. Today most of the vessels on the lakes look like normal ocean going vessels. Back in the day you could easily tell a lake boat from a Saltie. The Pilothouse Forward Design really made these boats elegant and had class like no other type of freighters.
    I’m glad there are still some of these beauties still on the lakes, but of course none from this era of the 1910’s. Three of my favorite lakers are getting scrapped in Port Colborne, Ontario, further decreasing the fleet size of these classics. I hope I can take a little road trip to see the S.T. Crapo, Manistee, and the Ojibway before they are nothing but scrap metal.
    Thanks again for making this video!

  • @SoundwaveSenpai
    @SoundwaveSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +63

    As a Michigander and sailor I've grown up on the waves of these powerful lakes. My grandfather was a crewman aboard a couple of freighters and he'd always warn me and my brothers about the "vengegul November witch" that would snatch up lake boats and sailors. This video was such a thoughtful and well done tribute to a story we've heard many times but never in such a personable way. Thank you, I'm looking forward to more content on this storm and, maybe, other Great Lakes ships!

  • @savannahl4581
    @savannahl4581 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I lived in Wisconsin for 20 years. I hiked a 40 mile trail on the shore of Lake Superior in winter and everything within 75 feet of the waterline was encased in ice. Another section was an entire grove of hardwoods leveled to the ground--all tilting away from the shore. These lakes are absolutely no joke!

  • @BlueWaterRailfan
    @BlueWaterRailfan ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The Mataafa Storm of 1905 and the Storm of 1913 are always talked about by die hard boatnerd along the Great Lakes. This is a very nicely done video!

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching!

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper ปีที่แล้ว +4

      10:10 When you lose contact with the other lakes it’s safe to assume there’s a big storm coming

    • @BlueWaterRailfan
      @BlueWaterRailfan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@StoutProper There is actually a snow storm happening right now where I'm at and most ships are stopping near main ports for safety, the few ships that are still running are hugging the coastline.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlueWaterRailfan shame it took them until the 70s or 80s to do that

    • @BlueWaterRailfan
      @BlueWaterRailfan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StoutProper With cases such as the Carl D. Bradley it really seemed like Money was #1 priority, and safety was 2nd. Shame that many companies don't care about the people they got doing their dirty work. Even today it's still common, especially with railroading.

  • @funnelvortex7722
    @funnelvortex7722 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    As a Wisconsinite I've always felt a special connection to the lakes, and on top of that have a deep fascination with maritime history, so as soon as I saw this video from you I got stoked.
    These lakes truly are wonders, when I stand on the shore of Lake Michigan and watch the waters lap over the rocks I feel a sense of magical awe and wonder as if I have been teleported to some mystical realm, and knowing large ships coming from far across the world can pull into a port of a quaint state known for cow farming in America's heartland is just amazing to me.
    On top of that they are just beautiful and haunting at the same time.
    I currently live in a more inland area of Wisconsin, but something about the lakes just call out to me, and I visit the lakeshores whenever I can, and one day I do plan to move within a few miles of Lake Michigan.
    I discovered maritime lore via reading about the Titanic as a kid, but it was spending time around the Great Lakes that made me truly fall in love with it.
    These lakes are special to me, and to many, and I am happy to see them get a lot more recognition among maritime enthusiasts lately, and I hope you do more on them!

    • @jo-annknowles1373
      @jo-annknowles1373 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel the same despite living across the pond near Liverpool in the UK...I've never seen any of the lakes in real life and hope one day to at least visit , if not move there . My mom is Canadian so maybe thats where it comes from for me ... I would love sooo much to live in wisconsin tho .

    • @dickJohnsonpeter
      @dickJohnsonpeter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jo-annknowles1373 Nice to meet you both! I grew up for ten years in Bolton in Yorkshire county then moved to Wisconsin and still live here. Wisconsin is special being between the two largest great lakes if you ever want to visit it's an absolutely beautiful state.

  • @dfuher968
    @dfuher968 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Its just so sad. Theres so many stories like this about ships getting caught in a November gale on the Great Lakes, yet they keep thinking, they can juuuuust squeeze in 1 more run b4 winter. That engineer, who decided to leave the "Price" b4 that last run, was the smart 1!

  • @davidturnbole4395
    @davidturnbole4395 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Grandfather, Lester D. Seymour, joined the Lifesaving Service in 1900 at the age of 25. He was part of the crew from Sharlot Station, on Lake Ontario, that spent 3 days pulling oars on the lake in the middle of winter, 1901, on what is considered one of the most harrowing and dangerous rescues of the tugboat, John R Noyes. (Look it up). It was a winter very much like the one you are describing. That crew earned the Gold Lifesaving Medal for their heroism. Because of the bitter cold, and the frozen waters of the Lake, many men of that crew had lifelong medical problems. My Grandfather had a lifetime of severe arthritis from carrying crew members of the Noyes through the shoreline waters. "Gramp" was in for 32 years before he retired. During that time he was, among other duties, lighthouse keeper while he recuperated from that ordeal, in New York Harbor during WW I. He was there when the Germans infiltrated the Black Tom Island ammunition dump and blew it up. They said fragments of the explosion were embedded in a church tower in Philadelphia! Gramp headed up the rescue effort of thousands of residents of Manhattan. I spent 5 years in the Coast Guard and joined because of him. His father was a Lake Captain in the Cutter Service and a brother was also a member of the Lighthouse Service. All were folding into the Coast Guard in 1913. My oldest daughter spent 5 years in the Coast Guard as well. Although she was a Cornell graduate, she chose to go enlisted for the experience, and she went from boot camp to the ship I mustered out on, the CGC Dallas.

    • @davidturnbole4395
      @davidturnbole4395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BTW, my uncle's name was Charles Price, as is my cousin's name.

  • @jeffcampbell1555
    @jeffcampbell1555 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your production values and confidence of delivery have evolved so quickly. I think your storytelling has always been supercharged by love of your maritime subject. I'm not a descendent of Great Lake sailors but feel touched and grateful for this elegiac recall of their toughness, skill and bravery. You manage to frame the local history of crews dying in pursuit of commercial profit as tragic--without making it ugly. Trade was and is one of the drivers of civilization: When mariners including fishermen die at sea, it is not for nothing.
    I know this is long, but want to compliment the way you weave visuals, narrative and background music in emotionally impactful ways to make stories memorable. It's a lot of work for a single amateur enthusiast, and you're doing it like a professional. Thank you

  • @robertchandler6254
    @robertchandler6254 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I've just settled down with a scotch, and I was just thinking "I wonder if BoB has anything new up?" - I check the channel, and see a video was uploaded 3 minutes ago. Welp, I know what I'm watching while I enjoy my whisky!

    • @bronotamrok3002
      @bronotamrok3002 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds amazing!
      …except it’s like 7:30am here, ha! And I am not going to wait until this evening to watch!

    • @bmacd2112
      @bmacd2112 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bronotamrok3002 It's always 5pm somewhere!!!

    • @TheFaraway8
      @TheFaraway8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bmacd2112 damn you beat me to it

    • @95blahblahhaha
      @95blahblahhaha ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope you live in Europe or something because if not we need to talk about getting you help🤣🤣

    • @jeffcampbell1555
      @jeffcampbell1555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't drink...anymore, and it's 8-something AM here. Nonetheless, BoB and scotch sounds like a great combo; I hope you enjoyed the heck out of it.

  • @Kokopilau77
    @Kokopilau77 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Of the ships lost during that storm, two have yet to be discovered. One of them, the SS James Carruthers, has fascinated me since I learned about her a few years ago. She’s somewhere, in the depths of Huron, waiting to be found.
    If only I had the resources and experience to search for her. What a find that would be.

    • @gregorylyon1004
      @gregorylyon1004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really hope that they will find the James C Caruthers myself. To me it's the Titanic of Great Lakes shipwrecks. No luck as of 2023

    • @williamrogers9004
      @williamrogers9004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm guessing that , similar to Lake Erie, Lake Huron must have patches of the lakebed made of soft sediment or "sludge" and the Carruthers must be actually UNDER Lake Huron, like I believe Marquette and Bessemer is UNDER Lake Erie, bc we have the technology now to find them, and yet it's not found?

  • @LordDim1
    @LordDim1 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I absolutely adore your videos, the storytelling is exquisite and gripping. A suggestion for a potential future video: the sinking of the Danish steamer SS Norge in 1904. The sinking of the Norge was the worst civilian maritime disaster in the Atlantic until the sinking of the Titanic, with around 650 dead, but is almost completely unknown and forgotten today

  • @Dragonchick27
    @Dragonchick27 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Always a treat to see a video about the great workhorses of the Great Lakes. If you’re interested, the SS Kamloops and any of the other vessels lost in December 1927 might be worth a look. That event and the lead-up are fascinating and truly illustrate your point about the pressures placed on the ships and their crew by the shipping companies.

  • @evantallant1437
    @evantallant1437 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We have a monument to this storm in my hometown of Port Huron. Which is right at the mouth of the St. Clair river leading into Lake Huron. The monument is made from one of the propellers of the Price, which was found only a couple hundred feet offshore from the beaches in town. I've seen this my whole life growing up, but never really knowing the full story of this storm.

    • @erbewayne6868
      @erbewayne6868 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I walk down to the river with my dog and walk past the moment often. My son found a piece of coal on lighthouse park beach two years ago. As the Price was carrying coal, we wonder if the coal was from the Price.

  • @imjusthereforthecomments4920
    @imjusthereforthecomments4920 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I grew up on Lake St Clair and the shipwrecks have always fascinated me. I still remember the bells tolling at Mariners Church in Detroit for the captain and crew of the Fitz. Thank you for such well done video.

  • @russk1971
    @russk1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in Algonac Michigan on the St Clare River. My father worked for Chriscraft. These stores bring back memories of him. We watched freighters on the St Clare River until he passed from cancer when I was in 2nd grade.

  • @r.e.bieron1041
    @r.e.bieron1041 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I live near Lake Erie; I can walk 5 minutes and I am on a cliff overlooking the beach. I love your channel and look forward to your videos. Thank you for making them.
    A few years ago, my partner and I took a day trip to Toronto and he booked us a cruise on a Schooner(? had sails, wooden, almost like a stereotypical Pirate Ship) on Lake Ontario. It was a beautiful day and lots of relaxing fun. But of course, all I could do was chatter about the geology of how the lakes were formed and shipwrecks. Even after over a decade together, he still will ask me "How can you remember all this stuff and yet forgot to buy milk?" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jeffcampbell1555
      @jeffcampbell1555 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have a similar brain: Lots and lots of stuff I find interesting--without practical application; but I'll forget to pay a bill until it's late. Sigh.

  • @sirridesalot6652
    @sirridesalot6652 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In so many case the desire to squeeze in one last run indeed became the ship and crew's last run.

  • @model-man7802
    @model-man7802 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mom was born in the UP and this has always drawn my interest.

    • @brodyhess5553
      @brodyhess5553 ปีที่แล้ว

      All our good women leave now 🙁

  • @thurayya8905
    @thurayya8905 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The story of the captain of the Regina was so touching. He was a hero. How many stories of people like him have been lost to time?

  • @gabebowen1385
    @gabebowen1385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my great great grandfather was an engineer on the SS Argus which broke in half and took all 25 men aboard, including him, to the bottom when transporting a load of coal during this storm

  • @NonsensicalNauticalRambings
    @NonsensicalNauticalRambings ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice to see that your covering lesser known, more mysterious stories.

  • @TehAnnahFoo
    @TehAnnahFoo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Minnesotan, I love to learn about the history of the Great Lakes. Keep up the good work!

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว

      About four years ago my wife and l went to Maui. The Kiwis at the beach side condo we stayed st were telling us how the week before there was 15 footers coming ashore. Just before we flew out th here were 40 yo 45 footers hitting Duluth Superior. Glad I don't live there.

  • @micoasters
    @micoasters ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a Michigander watching these videos about wrecks in the lakes make me super happy

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would definitely like to see more videos about this event.

  • @claudiadarling9441
    @claudiadarling9441 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm so excited the Great Lakes are getting some love, as someone from the region myself. I especially love all the film of Duluth and the Aerial bridge. I've seen photographs of its early configuration as a transporter bridge, but I didn't know any film survived. I also suggest checking out the 1905 Maatafa storm, and the story of the Maatafa itself.

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm planning a video on the Mataafa storm! Not as deadly as the White Hurricane, but what the crew of the Mataafa faced is just unreal.

    • @claudiadarling9441
      @claudiadarling9441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StunningHistory That's why I was suggesting it. The storms often bring good stories one way or another, even if it's just surfers.

  • @Horsewomann
    @Horsewomann ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Michigan and frequently scuba dive on the shipwrecks in the Great Lakes. It’s always sobering to know that people died when they sank, and I try to be respectful of those unfortunate souls. I try to learn the history of the ships I dive on, so their stories are not lost completely.
    One good source for Great Lakes Maritime history is Ric Mixter. If you ever have the chance to see one of his presentations, definitely do it!

  • @neilcoligan8621
    @neilcoligan8621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My late father worked for McQueen Marine, a dredge and tugboat company out of Amherstburg, Ontario which is near the southern end of the Detroit River. He had a set of books about the Great Lakes including many about shipwrecks. I wish I had inherited them but being a Great Lakes sailor meant work was seasonal and he was forced to sell them for much needed cash. Growing up along the river we'd see many of the classic lakers heading up channel including those of the Canada Steamship Lines, Algoma Central, Cleveland-Cliffs Steamship Co., etc. It was a pretty great place to live if you were into the Big Old Boats. Thanks very much for this channel.

  • @ayindestevens6152
    @ayindestevens6152 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glad to see BOB expand past ocean liners and into more Maritime History. Definitely want to know more about the 1913 White Hurricane and hopefully their take on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

  • @kathyandollieify
    @kathyandollieify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. We lived on Lake Huron in Port Huron, Michigan for 28 years. We witnessed many storms in November with incredible waves and extreme wind.

  • @katfayegarrett3872
    @katfayegarrett3872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, a story as tragic and romantic as Titanic. Lifelong Michigander here loving this. Thx!🚢🛥️

  • @died4us590
    @died4us590 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Since i have lived in Michigan all my life, i find the lake stories really interesting, especially since i swam in them when i was a kid and heard how the great lakes has taken many lives, because in some places it's more dangerous than the ocean. Good video, G-d bless everyone.

    • @shinichi6235
      @shinichi6235 ปีที่แล้ว

      More a Milwaukee thing

  • @roberthilla6606
    @roberthilla6606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Port Huron and have toured our persevered lighthouse and lightship this video is very grounding for me

  • @anthonyjimenez6902
    @anthonyjimenez6902 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally after years of waiting someone did a great video on this rarely spoken about moment in history. I’m so happy The Great Storm of 1913 (The White Hurricane) was such a massive catastrophe yet it never talked about. I’m glad it’s finally starting to be brought up once more. Great video man 😊

  • @HMSPrinceofWhales53p
    @HMSPrinceofWhales53p ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Regina and Charles S Price! As soon as i heard the upturned hull I knew it was this story. I have been waiting for someone to tackle this mystery for so long I was considering doing it myself. One fo the most mysterious events on the Great Lakes.

  • @dwaggs01
    @dwaggs01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I go on a yearly trip to sturgeon bay, love seeing the great lakes fleet boats come through, since they still run some awesome boats (Arthur m. Anderson, etc. )as its the southern most exit of green bay.

  • @johndavies1090
    @johndavies1090 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating old film footage - like another commentator, Great Lakes ships are like nothing seen in Britain and tragic as the stories are, I love watching the films of these fine looking ships.

  • @alimacdonald2924
    @alimacdonald2924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was fascinating.Thank yòu for this video, l caught myself holding my breath as the stories unfolded. You are a wonderful storyteller and give life to what these captains and crews went thru. Much of it is so, so sad. Touched by all the historical footage and the image of the Captain's diary. This resonates with me as l am a scrapbooker and memory-keeper and these things all underline for me the importance of what l am doing for my family, extended family and those who will come after. Thank you for what you do on this wonderful channel. I have been a subscriber for quite some time, and feel this is one of you best videos, among many which have had me coming back for more. WELL DONE! ~Ali (Nova Scotia, Canada) 🇨🇦

  • @emo7636
    @emo7636 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I quite enjoyed your footnote of 'Yes that's how Regina was pronounced no need to leave a comment' haha. It never even occurred to me that others might think it's pronounced the same as the female name 'Regina'.

    • @reginamathews2001
      @reginamathews2001 ปีที่แล้ว

      When someone say Regina in the French Canadian way it always made me cringe.

    • @traceyifversen6109
      @traceyifversen6109 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well guilty 😂 I didn't see your comment until after I posted lol

  • @sharonsplat
    @sharonsplat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always makes me tear up. No matter how many times I've heard the stories.

  • @redtobertshateshandles
    @redtobertshateshandles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've lived on the edge of the Tasman Sea all my life. GREAT LAKES is a misnomer. They're freshwater oceans.

  • @wednesday8397
    @wednesday8397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My great grandfather built the original Great Lakes Museum in Vermillion, Ohio so I grew up around Lake Erie often as a child. The lake terrified me and all the years of trying to waterski on Maumee Bay (THATS a workout) and being afraid to be out in the deep lake, away from land always terrified me and even trips to Put-n-Bay made me a nervous wreck. Anyways, I live in Toledo now and it's absolutely bizarre how we get a far smaller amount of snow than the the rest of the state and far less than Cleveland. The lake effect snow hammers Cleveland and goes around Toledo and much of Detroit. Now winter is so mild it's crazy. It was 85 this weekend in mid APRIL. That's like Texas weather!

  • @windborne8795
    @windborne8795 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was born and raised in Traverse City, Michigan. I grew up hearing the lore of the Lakes. My grandpa, great-grandpa, great-great-grandpa and an uncle as well as a great-great- uncle were all merchant mariners on the Great Lakes so, needless to say it's always been a fascination for me, ever since my childhood. I'll never forget on the 20th anniversary of the sinking of the Fitzgerald, November 10th '95, a huge gale blew up and chased 3 big ore carriers into Grand Traverse Bay. Ever since the Fitzgerald tragedy there are much fewer "risks" taken and safe harbor is encouraged during big storms by the insurance companies. Especially, late season storms. Growing up sailing those waters, I can attest to just how rough the world's "8th seas" can get. The Great Lakes have some of the roughest waters in the world. Hands down! Great job on this... Thank you for putting it together. Well done!

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing!

  • @danfeenstra7768
    @danfeenstra7768 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for making a video about the Great Lakes! More! I want more please!

  • @katsuyafeather1309
    @katsuyafeather1309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interestingly enough this video dropped while I am visiting Port Huron in November.

  • @barnstormer75
    @barnstormer75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for pronouncing Ashtabula correctly! As a lifelong resident of Ashtabula, it's nice to hear it correctly, as many TH-cam videos mispronounce it

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for keeping the memories alive of all the sailors lost down through the years..

  • @StunningHistory
    @StunningHistory ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That’s the best integration of a sponsor I’ve ever seen! And such a cool story about your grandfather sailing on the Aquitania.

  • @flapjackfae
    @flapjackfae ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a particularly nautical guy, but I have a fascination for old transportation, and I think yours is some of the best content about old ships. Good, factual presentation, and you let the stories themselves provide the drama. It's excellent stuff.

  • @joshuaryan1946
    @joshuaryan1946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm happy we get to see more of YOU now, even if it's in commercials. Adds a lot to the experience, dude.

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks I'm a bit camera shy but trying to get more comfortable with it!

  • @Chord_
    @Chord_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a fun little example of parallel thinking, as soon as I finished this video, I went to check out Stunning History's latest video, only to realize it was about the same topic! I was quite surprised, but I'm certainly not complaining about there being two excellent videos out there now about this event!

  • @sunshinesal3588
    @sunshinesal3588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such an interesting, professional channel. Keep up the great work.

  • @kingrandoe
    @kingrandoe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a totally unknown story for someone who lives in Utah. Thank you for your time and research with these videos. I look forward to each upload.

  • @steveo1kinevo
    @steveo1kinevo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! Really enjoy your channel and the content.

  • @ripwednesdayadams
    @ripwednesdayadams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of my favorite channels. The only problem is that I blew through every video already. I’m addicted.

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luckily there are more coming! :)

  • @BTScriviner
    @BTScriviner ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another excellent video. I never realized just how dangerous the Great Lakes are to mariners. Of course companies always put profits ahead of people.

    • @ladyzapzap9514
      @ladyzapzap9514 ปีที่แล้ว

      That hasn’t really changed much- most still do.

    • @evil1by1
      @evil1by1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ultimately its us, the consumers who fuel this demand and always have. Do you ask the conditions truckers are pressured to drive in? What about your cheap slave made Amazon shit you just have to have tomorrow...do you care at all the conditions the delivery driver and warehouse have to work in to make that happen? How about your Doordasher or pizza delivery driver...I know you dont think twice about ordering food when its unsafe to be driving. Do you spare a thought for all the postal workers that die from heat exhaustion and 90 hour weeks at Christmas because you just have to have your way and have it now? What about line speeds in slaughterhouses that kill and maim hundreds a year just so your meat can be a little cheaper. Its not corporate greed..its us the consumers and our greed and selfishness. Companies aren't charities and need to turn a profit..true. what they dont care about is making 100 a day or 200 every 2 days. We are the ones with the unrealistic demands and expectations thats why regulation keeps just not helping.

  • @hughwalker5628
    @hughwalker5628 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Here in Britain, people can't imagine the sheer size and power of the Great Lakes. I grew up in Ontario so I've a good idea. I'm really looking forward to more on that November of 1913!

    • @steveclapper5424
      @steveclapper5424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are inland seas.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? Like the power of the North Sea? I think they can.

    • @hughwalker5628
      @hughwalker5628 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xr6lad that's not what I meant. I meant on a lake. The North Sea is the Sea. Not a lake. I know it well. We have Derwent Water. In England, that's a lake.

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xr6lad I think he's trying to say that a lot of people can't imagine the fact the Great Lakes can match the North Sea at times.
      The Great Lakes are actually very geologically similar to the North Sea: wide areas of shallow waters, especially Lake Superior, and if you get a good blow down the spine of any of the lakes you can get dangerously choppy 30-40 footers.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funnelvortex7722 well if they’re like the North Sea then most people in Britain can easily imagine it

  • @PlayboyHustler
    @PlayboyHustler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel is getting better and better.

  • @ernestweaver9720
    @ernestweaver9720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent narrative on such a tragic event. My condolences to all those involved.

  • @garydavenport3321
    @garydavenport3321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thoroughly enjoying this channel!!! Thank you!

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching!!

  • @KatE-yy2jp
    @KatE-yy2jp ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is excellently produced and scripted, the storytelling is gripping. The sound effects are perfect in every aspect as well!

  • @magnus1001
    @magnus1001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chief Engineer on the Regina was CJ McSorley. I wonder if he was related to Ernest McSorley who decades later was the captain of the ill fated Edmund Fitzgerald? I Googled info. on it and both were born in Ontario Canada. If not, quite an eerie coincidence. Brave men with a dangerous job.

  • @chriskylo323
    @chriskylo323 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow amazingly sad but very informative video. I really love the Great Lakes stories, and the amount of info and detail you give us. Thank you very much for these tales, especially the Great Lakes tragedies. I always look forward to another great ship story from you.

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for watching!

  • @kevinm7931
    @kevinm7931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for doing a Great Lakes story! Please consider making a video about the disaster of the SS Noronic

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent presentation! Can’t wait for the next one.

  • @goatman7362
    @goatman7362 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What breaks my heart is that the captain of the Regina died hoping the rest of his crew would make it to shore in the lifeboats. But they did not, and all of the crew ended up dying. I hope they at least find solace in that in heaven they are all there together

  • @MainMezzer
    @MainMezzer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite lakers, Alva C. Dinkey survived the gale of 1913. From a newspaper article, Passed up at the Soo Friday, Nov. 7, at 11 A. M. There were southwest storm warnings there when we went up, and one of the linemen on the dock stated that they had been up for about half an hour.
    There were no storm warning notices in the canal of-fice. We went up by Whitefish at about 2:30 and southwest storm warnings were flying there. We went on our course to Manitou and I had just taken a two-point bearing off of Stannard Rock when the wind began blowing a gale from the north. I pumped her up full of water, putting about 4 ft. in her dark room and 14 ft. the Slate Islands, and estimate we in her peak, filled her after peak were about 20 to 25 miles south of and 4 ft. in her cargo hold. I them this was about 8 o'clock ran for about 23 hours north by Sunday morning. The wind have cast the wind being north by ing moderated some, I then start-east, head into it. It had been ed on my way for Duluth. We snowing heavy all this time, could had our whistle going continuously not see anything. Not knowing for 25 hours during the storm, and how far I had gotten, I turned on account of the wind and snow around and ran back for three I do not think I heard it once. hours, and then turned her head She made good weather of it, in into it again, north by east. It fact, there were very few of the took us about 10 minutes to get crew that lost any sleep at all. her turned around. I went that the sea ran very high and I estimated way until about three in the morning. mate that the wind blew from 65 ing, when the snow cleared up to 70 miles an hour. We did not when it cleared up I could see break a window even.

    • @isthatrubble
      @isthatrubble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      some of the sentences in this got a little jumbled in the copying, just thought you should know!

    • @MainMezzer
      @MainMezzer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isthatrubble thanks man, I used the new iPhone feature where you can copy text from photographs, I fixed up what I can but I’m on mobile lol.

  • @roadweary5252
    @roadweary5252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to see more stories about this storm. Another great upload!

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn ปีที่แล้ว

    I am convinced that no ship can truly be built strong enough to survive a horrible storm, accidents will happen sadly and loss of power is almost always guaranteed to cause havoc onboard

  • @aceadman
    @aceadman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are a terrific storyteller and video creator. Thanks you for all the hard work and entertaining, educational content. It’s really great.😊👍👍

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for watching and for the kind words!

  • @holgertash1
    @holgertash1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your voice is perfect for these videos. Thank you for all your work. I have learned so much.

  • @timmotel5804
    @timmotel5804 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful accounting of this storm, the ships and sailors that sailed and those who were lost during that storm. RIP to all sailors lost at sea. Thank You for this post.

  • @TheDomeHepot010
    @TheDomeHepot010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    November 10, 2023 marks 110 years since this horrific storm devastated the Great Lakes. Rest in peace to all of the sailors who lost their lives and to all of the ships that met their demises.

  • @omarhamid3638
    @omarhamid3638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m always loving your videos and am never bored by anything you’ve put up. To cap it all I’m learning so much and you have a great voice to listen to, crisp and utterly relaxing. Superb work! 😊👍

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it, thank you!

  • @rougeneon1997
    @rougeneon1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work here! 👍👍👌👌Looking forward to more.

  • @BillyAlabama
    @BillyAlabama ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating! Thank you.

  • @makkurasami
    @makkurasami ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Informative and touching. Really mesmerizingly told. Thank you for your wonderful work!

  • @kingshisa8266
    @kingshisa8266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another informative video!!

  • @micheleshively8557
    @micheleshively8557 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do a fantastic job on your stories! Love listening

  • @silasdense4725
    @silasdense4725 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a great (well done) presentation.

  • @marymcguffin9370
    @marymcguffin9370 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I live in Michigan and love the lakes, they are wonderful, but would never want to be an a freighter, God bless all of the men and women working on the great lakes and their families ❤

  • @asdatrollys8944
    @asdatrollys8944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos look really and sound really professional. I didn’t realise you were only on 39k subs. Keep this professionalism going and that number will certainly go up.

  • @johnrogers1661
    @johnrogers1661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unparalleled entertainment, a master at your craft. Thank you for your rendition of this terrible storm(s)

  • @reallyseriously7020
    @reallyseriously7020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video! I look forward to more.

  • @LukeWarm612
    @LukeWarm612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the great lakes stories!

  • @stuffnthingsb.c4043
    @stuffnthingsb.c4043 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel. Glad I found it.

  • @RedcoatsReturn
    @RedcoatsReturn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sudden ice storms are devastating and there‘s nothing you can do, everything gets a coat of ice two inches thick or more…a ship doubles its top heavy weight, waves of fresh water turn to ice easily and the ship capsizes very quick. In The Great Lakes the storms are ferocious, sudden and sometimes impossible to survive….worst that the Bermuda Triangle!

  • @degs24
    @degs24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was a real treat to wake up today and find this waiting! You always do such a stellar job on these.

  • @AldiniF
    @AldiniF ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure I read a historic marker in Port Sanilac about this. Thanks for the visuals and narration!

  • @CFinch360
    @CFinch360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video! The music, the editing, and the story was fascinating!

  • @lisaevans5840
    @lisaevans5840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never knew about the storm of 1913 on the great lakes. I'd love to hear more about it.

  • @winstonchurchill5791
    @winstonchurchill5791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another masterpiece well done Big old boats!

  • @InlandSeas
    @InlandSeas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really happy to see you dip your toes into the Great Lakes region!!! Excited for more, especially from someone who's a historian in that field lol

  • @chicagotransitauthority3161
    @chicagotransitauthority3161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my new favorite channels. My 8 year old self would’ve binged watch you

  • @douganderson771
    @douganderson771 ปีที่แล้ว

    My uncle Douglas was a !st Mate on the Great Lakes freighters, every summer when he got a short break we would pile in to my aunt's giant old Nash . Drive down to the Toledo docks in Ohio and if time allowed he would take us aboard for a bit of a tour. My older cousins even got to go on a short trip back across Lake Erie and in to Detroit one time.
    I always looked forward to Christmas at my aunt and uncle's house because uncle Douglas would regale us with stories of the gales he had fought . Love your stories and the history of the Great Lakes.

  • @kaypyles9441
    @kaypyles9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this video; thank you! I've always been fascinated, as well as saddened, by stories such as these!