Perfect question Perfect answer Perfect question for the answer Very cool and beautiful discussion on otherwise heated topic. Chaitanya charan prabhu is bringing all different points of views in iskcon under one roof and showing us proper vaishnav etiquette for such discussions can bring out a solution. Instead of just finding faults with others.
GourNitai🌺HareKrishna🌺Govinda 🌼🌈🐦There is a video of Prabhupada's last days in Vrindavan translating Srimad Bhagavatam with His disciple Pradyumna das. 🌺Prabhupada says to Pradyumna das~ "So you will continue translating after I've gone?" 🌺Pradyumna das~ "Yes. And I will consult with Sridhar Maharaj. 🌺Prabhupada~ " Yes. He and I are the only ones Qualified to Comment." 🌼🌸🌼🌺🌼🌹👣🌹🌼🌺🌼🌸🌼
Definitely we need to increase the book distribution very rigorously and make it a daily business. Also, we need to inspire existing devotees about varana ashram.
35:59 Swami ji said it correct: it is not the fault of varnashrama. it is the fault of the yuga because even devoid of varnashrama, these problems occur. They will manifest in other ways maybe but they are already present. both sexes are being exploited.
Thankyou for the discussion How to establish varanshram dharma when on one side person don't have land and on the other side people have enough. How will our ends meet when with limited resources we have to deal with rising costs of education, health and other basic amenities And we see when even farmers are in debt trap, waiting for their loan waiver in every next election and Committing suicides , how can we sustain in limited resources And if going by the example of GEV wada, there you can't afford to stay for even one night. What kind of self sustainable living is that?
i think that people will return to farms only if it gives good returns. hence farming of ayurvedic herbs and medicinal plants has a huge market or its an unexplored new market. If we create a robust digital marketplace like an e-commerce app, where we have all renowned ayurvedic, homeopathy, naturopathy doctors onboard and natural medicine makers, then automatically demand for herbal medicines will skyrocket. Once we have a sizeable customer base, then we can sell organic, satvic foods to these customers without any cost of customer acquisition. These way, we can create a huge market for organic agricultural produce and then people will flock to rural areas for farming and it will become a lucrative career. This way establishing farm based communities and varnasrama will become possible after creating this ecosystem
Yes. It needs to be materially attractive to live on farms. The Amish are a good example. They are hard headed hard working business people. The result is they retain 80% of their young people. Make economically successful farms and people will join.
the point that we are getting our best qualified devotees from the modern education system needs a bit of introspection. external achievements or expertise isnt the only parameter of judging devotion. what about the removal of bad habits from ones character. the impressions one receives from childhood are a strong part of ones life and he can easily fall back to that standard, be it in the positive or negative. sense.
Who will protect women especially in this time of Kali yuga? For many women it will be themselves. Unfortunately and DANGEROUSLY we live in a time when some men who have somehow gained influence don’t even acknowledge the prevalence of violence against women and instead offer fallacies such as a high prevalence of female-on-male violence. These same men refuse to see how educating women is also correlated to a decrease in domestic violence. From men who abuse their leadership roles to support social constructs that enable violence- that is exactly from whom we must protect ourselves.
I just started to listen and I find Caitanya Carana's way of dealing with someone who is senior to him in every respect rather offensive. No class. BVKS is in the category of his guru-varga and Caitanya Carana behaves so rudely in an adversarial way as if he were his superior.
I humbly disagree with you. At no point did Caitanya Caran Prabhu offend Maharaj. They were engaged in a frank discussion and many of the questions he presented are questions many devotees would present. Bodhayanta parasparam does not mean agreeing with everything the other devotee says but keeping guru and Krishna at the center.
I also disagree. Respectfully we sometimes have to present opposition. In this case Prabhu is presenting arguments to which he may not be subscribing in toto, though those are facts for serious consideration. Don't be afraid to discuss openly
HareKrishna Maharaj ji... Dandavat Pranamam Maharaj ji 🙏🙏🙏
Perfect question
Perfect answer
Perfect question for the answer
Very cool and beautiful discussion on otherwise heated topic. Chaitanya charan prabhu is bringing all different points of views in iskcon under one roof and showing us proper vaishnav etiquette for such discussions can bring out a solution. Instead of just finding faults with others.
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We love this podcast because here everything is so open, highlighting mistakes and deliberating on solutions... Hare Krishna
GourNitai🌺HareKrishna🌺Govinda
🌼🌈🐦There is a video of Prabhupada's last days in Vrindavan translating Srimad Bhagavatam with His disciple Pradyumna das.
🌺Prabhupada says to Pradyumna das~
"So you will continue translating after I've gone?"
🌺Pradyumna das~
"Yes. And I will consult with Sridhar Maharaj.
🌺Prabhupada~
" Yes. He and I are the only ones Qualified to Comment."
🌼🌸🌼🌺🌼🌹👣🌹🌼🌺🌼🌸🌼
Hare Krishna.
Pamho
Agtsp
Such an amazing discussion. Both these great souls are answering each other so appropriately. Loving it.
Yes would be wonderful if you could speak with H.H Sivarama Swami on this subject
After emergence of covid and increased pollution , varnashrma farm communuties seems perfect solution 👌
Thank you Maharaj & Chaitanya car an P discussing difficult topics BUT helps Jay Srila Prabhupad
Definitely we need to increase the book distribution very rigorously and make it a daily business.
Also, we need to inspire existing devotees about varana ashram.
This is a heavily edited version. To see complete talk watch it on BVKS's channel when it comes out.
Why are you doing this, go and check whether it is edited or not. I saw both videos even one second is not edited
UnContaminated truth spoken
35:59 Swami ji said it correct: it is not the fault of varnashrama. it is the fault of the yuga because even devoid of varnashrama, these problems occur. They will manifest in other ways maybe but they are already present. both sexes are being exploited.
Thankyou for the discussion
How to establish varanshram dharma when on one side person don't have land and on the other side people have enough.
How will our ends meet when with limited resources we have to deal with rising costs of education, health and other basic amenities
And we see when even farmers are in debt trap, waiting for their loan waiver in every next election and Committing suicides , how can we sustain in limited resources
And if going by the example of GEV wada, there you can't afford to stay for even one night. What kind of self sustainable living is that?
i think that people will return to farms only if it gives good returns. hence farming of ayurvedic herbs and medicinal plants has a huge market or its an unexplored new market. If we create a robust digital marketplace like an e-commerce app, where we have all renowned ayurvedic, homeopathy, naturopathy doctors onboard and natural medicine makers, then automatically demand for herbal medicines will skyrocket. Once we have a sizeable customer base, then we can sell organic, satvic foods to these customers without any cost of customer acquisition. These way, we can create a huge market for organic agricultural produce and then people will flock to rural areas for farming and it will become a lucrative career.
This way establishing farm based communities and varnasrama will become possible after creating this ecosystem
Remember it's not about farm ,it's about Krishna's farm🙏🙏
Yes. It needs to be materially attractive to live on farms. The Amish are a good example. They are hard headed hard working business people. The result is they retain 80% of their young people. Make economically successful farms and people will join.
the point that we are getting our best qualified devotees from the modern education system needs a bit of introspection.
external achievements or expertise isnt the only parameter of judging devotion. what about the removal of bad habits from ones character. the impressions one receives from childhood are a strong part of ones life and he can easily fall back to that standard, be it in the positive or negative. sense.
Who will protect women especially in this time of Kali yuga? For many women it will be themselves.
Unfortunately and DANGEROUSLY we live in a time when some men who have somehow gained influence don’t even acknowledge the prevalence of violence against women and instead offer fallacies such as a high prevalence of female-on-male violence. These same men refuse to see how educating women is also correlated to a decrease in domestic violence. From men who abuse their leadership roles to support social constructs that enable violence- that is exactly from whom we must protect ourselves.
I just started to listen and I find Caitanya Carana's way of dealing with someone who is senior to him in every respect rather offensive. No class. BVKS is in the category of his guru-varga and Caitanya Carana behaves so rudely in an adversarial way as if he were his superior.
It seems sometimes, but it's a friendly discussion to bring some solution.
Their relationship is not hampered by these talks.
Very true it's a discussion which sometimes necessary to come to a conclusion.
I humbly disagree with you. At no point did Caitanya Caran Prabhu offend Maharaj. They were engaged in a frank discussion and many of the questions he presented are questions many devotees would present. Bodhayanta parasparam does not mean agreeing with everything the other devotee says but keeping guru and Krishna at the center.
I also disagree. Respectfully we sometimes have to present opposition. In this case Prabhu is presenting arguments to which he may not be subscribing in toto, though those are facts for serious consideration. Don't be afraid to discuss openly
More like your ego can't handle opposition so you have to cry about it.