Would love to hear what those "top 5 IEMs that stand at the top of the audio summit" are and your top 3 best in the world as well. Was gettin hyped and then swiftly let down when you didnt mention them lol
@@TheMasterofComment I don’t think I can link, so if you Google “qdc Anole VX review,” mine is the first result. It’s a very technical IEM, but I don’t like the treble response (sounds fatiguing and plasticky) and it’s too clinical for my tastes in general. Basically one of those IEMs I have to respect, but don’t like very much haha.
Another quality review. The inclusion of EST drivers in an IEM doesn't appeal to me but, it is interesting to hear that they can be competently implemented. I like the gold flourish on this otherwise subtle shell.
@shinigamilord86 So the homemade, more widely available ~$200 Lokahi probably has better bass, and no severe driver flex? If not the ~$250 Nimbus. There you go.
@shinigamilord86 I diy earphones, and the only reason you could get driver flex on a driver is when you solder it for too long or the temperature is too hot that it affects the membrane. Even the thinnest or poorest driver membrane wouldn't get a flex or a crinkle if soldered correctly. At least in my case.
Please get your hands on the qdc Anole V14! Previous qdc flagships: qdc Gemini and Anole VX are still some of the top IEMs by technicalities and tuning besting even the 64Audio U12t. The new qdc Anole V14 is an overkill IEM meant to compete with $3000+ IEMs like the U18t, EE Odin, Elysian Annihilator.
I think the main problem is that most weren't dampening the other drivers properly. The ESTs are very insensitive, which is why you'd end up with IEMs that rolled-off hard unless you gave them ridiculous amounts of power. I'm not sure if its acoustic phase like you noted or what, but Elysian definitely got something right that even other, "correct" implementations haven't been able to do.
Thanks for your review. Great to hear your top IEMs. Curious to know what you'd recommend for upto around $700 for someone who likes a wide range from Classical (Bach, Beethoven, Satie...), dance music, traditional & folk and women's vocals kleaa concerned about heavy rock).
@@Precogvision Thank you sir! That's MIGHT be what I need really: I equalize all my iems and headphones: I make a few db dip at around 500-700 hz and raise 3-7 khz by ~8 db. That makes vocals sound less veiled to my taste. Now I'm looking for a good iem that has that response originally, to not have to equalize it)
@@erikszilagyi5606 After the $1000 price point is where I find it hard to justify IEMs. The jumps in SQ after that point are there, but I don't think the average person would immediately know if you had them compare on the spot. It all depends on who you ask, though. I'm sure some will say diminishing returns kick in much, much lower!
I feel like most people's ears don't get anywhere close to hearing up to 20k. Stuff like this being best in class for treble seems like a waste, and ultra boutique.
Well, that’s a hot take haha. Even if one can’t quite hear those frequencies anymore, one should still be able to “feel” them. It’s also not just about sheer extension, so much as it the speed and linearity of this treble response - qualities one should definitely be able to benefit from even if they can’t hear that high-up.
@@Precogvision Sure, there's a benefit to the range you can hear, but if I couldn't hear the sub bass on my LCD2c I would be missing out on a lot of the fun. The fact that it extended into that range would be a complete waste. The mid-bass being fast and clear would be great, but still a huge waste on those ears.
@@Voidward Maybe I'm not understanding, but mid-bass frequencies are higher up than sub-bas frequencies. So even if you can't hear the sub-bass frequencies, you would still benefit from hearing the mid-bass being fast and clear in the example you gave.
@@Voidward even if you can't hear the extremes, you benefit because the frequency response in the treble is very linear and articulate so until your hearing cuts out so you hear fantastic crystal clear treble.
It will Annihilate my wallet for sure.
ha ha ha
😂
Would love to hear what those "top 5 IEMs that stand at the top of the audio summit" are and your top 3 best in the world as well. Was gettin hyped and then swiftly let down when you didnt mention them lol
Sorry haha. Yeah others have asked as well. For me only, I’d say they’re the EE Odin, 64A Tia Trio, 64A U12T, Sony IER-Z1R, and then the Annihilator.
@@Precogvision My BAE IER-Z1R made the list!!! lol I hope to hear and review the Annihilator one day too.
@@Precogvision what's your opinions n on the qdc anole vx?
@@TheMasterofComment I don’t think I can link, so if you Google “qdc Anole VX review,” mine is the first result. It’s a very technical IEM, but I don’t like the treble response (sounds fatiguing and plasticky) and it’s too clinical for my tastes in general. Basically one of those IEMs I have to respect, but don’t like very much haha.
@@Precogvision If VE, Noble and Oriolus are not on your top 5 then I regret to say I have reservations of your taste in music;)
Another quality review. The inclusion of EST drivers in an IEM doesn't appeal to me but, it is interesting to hear that they can be competently implemented. I like the gold flourish on this otherwise subtle shell.
Driver flex on a $3600 IEM...
@shinigamilord86 So the homemade, more widely available ~$200 Lokahi probably has better bass, and no severe driver flex? If not the ~$250 Nimbus. There you go.
@shinigamilord86 I diy earphones, and the only reason you could get driver flex on a driver is when you solder it for too long or the temperature is too hot that it affects the membrane. Even the thinnest or poorest driver membrane wouldn't get a flex or a crinkle if soldered correctly. At least in my case.
driver flex goes away when you stick with it
Please get your hands on the qdc Anole V14! Previous qdc flagships: qdc Gemini and Anole VX are still some of the top IEMs by technicalities and tuning besting even the 64Audio U12t. The new qdc Anole V14 is an overkill IEM meant to compete with $3000+ IEMs like the U18t, EE Odin, Elysian Annihilator.
Should have one on the way soon.
It happens because most manufacturers don't know how to use sonion est
And get acoustic phase inverted
Elysian did it right
I think the main problem is that most weren't dampening the other drivers properly. The ESTs are very insensitive, which is why you'd end up with IEMs that rolled-off hard unless you gave them ridiculous amounts of power. I'm not sure if its acoustic phase like you noted or what, but Elysian definitely got something right that even other, "correct" implementations haven't been able to do.
It happens because the IEM is almost 4k.
At that price EST implementation SHOULD be fucking flawless.
I've definitely never heard *it* before
Thanks for this. I was looking at this or the new UE Premier. Honestly, I may go UE.
Would you be reviewing thieaudio's oracle and Excalibur?
But how does Infant Annihilator sound on it?
Thanks for your review. Great to hear your top IEMs.
Curious to know what you'd recommend for upto around $700 for someone who likes a wide range from Classical (Bach, Beethoven, Satie...), dance music, traditional & folk and women's vocals kleaa concerned about heavy rock).
Precog now like the Elysian Diva more right? The Diva has better mids/vocals, right?
did he say he can hear 19k Hz at top :D lol
Thanks for the review! If you had to pick one for vocals clarity- these or Odin?
The Annihilator is more resolving BUT it might come off as even more "digital" than Odin's midrange.
@@Precogvision Thank you sir! That's MIGHT be what I need really: I equalize all my iems and headphones: I make a few db dip at around 500-700 hz and raise 3-7 khz by ~8 db. That makes vocals sound less veiled to my taste. Now I'm looking for a good iem that has that response originally, to not have to equalize it)
lost the can i afford this roulette game again, sigh
I think I might need to do a favorite budget IEM picks in the future :)
@@Precogvision would love to hear your take on what price point diminishing returns kick in for iems
@@erikszilagyi5606 After the $1000 price point is where I find it hard to justify IEMs. The jumps in SQ after that point are there, but I don't think the average person would immediately know if you had them compare on the spot. It all depends on who you ask, though. I'm sure some will say diminishing returns kick in much, much lower!
Well, they got the name right ✅
You mentioned the shells are on the larger side but how is the fit with these compared with the Moondrop S8?
This iem is not for all, price tag is high. I will just buy 64 ears.
What are you going to do with 64 ears
Why does precog always pronounce linear like “luh-neer” ? Bro…. It’s lin-ee-ar. Linear. Lin-eeeee-errrr. Not Luh-neer
Love you tho
Too bad the bass isn’t great. Nice review!
Try listening to it and forming your own opinion.
Oh wait. You can't. I can. Too bad.
@@michaelp.3485 ???
What iem you named after the odin at 7:07
@Precogvision
@@Sushanttechworld Vision ears earlkonig bro hope my answer help you
@@letsmobiles3396 thanks for the reply man.
I feel like most people's ears don't get anywhere close to hearing up to 20k. Stuff like this being best in class for treble seems like a waste, and ultra boutique.
Well, that’s a hot take haha. Even if one can’t quite hear those frequencies anymore, one should still be able to “feel” them. It’s also not just about sheer extension, so much as it the speed and linearity of this treble response - qualities one should definitely be able to benefit from even if they can’t hear that high-up.
@@Precogvision Sure, there's a benefit to the range you can hear, but if I couldn't hear the sub bass on my LCD2c I would be missing out on a lot of the fun. The fact that it extended into that range would be a complete waste. The mid-bass being fast and clear would be great, but still a huge waste on those ears.
@@Voidward Maybe I'm not understanding, but mid-bass frequencies are higher up than sub-bas frequencies. So even if you can't hear the sub-bass frequencies, you would still benefit from hearing the mid-bass being fast and clear in the example you gave.
@@Precogvision That is correct, you're not getting it.
@@Voidward even if you can't hear the extremes, you benefit because the frequency response in the treble is very linear and articulate so until your hearing cuts out so you hear fantastic crystal clear treble.
It's called annihilator because this IEM will destroy your bank account if purchased.
3:25 *scratches chin*
First!
My new Empire Ears Raven is immensely more enjoyable to listen to than my Annihilator 2023.
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You need to get behavioural therapy