Brilliant! The way Jamie struggles to describe it ...shows it's breaking really new ground! Great stuff Question: If the black membrane gets damaged can a new one be purchased and laid on top relatively speedily or is it a major refit? Thanks
Brilliant sounds and playing by Jamie. I love how expressive this instrument can be, enabling you to control those parameters and still play with both hands seems very freeing. I'd love to get my hands on one.
(This is an old comment so I don't expect a reply) I'm a pianist (and only knows keyboard) but I definitely subconsciously add vibrato to the keys when playing string instruments on my controller too. I also do all sorts of gestures to the plastic keys when playing flute and guitar on my controller trying to get the effects of the real thing. But of course, none of my gestures works. I'm SOOOO tempted to buy this. Not the full-sized one, I'll need to sell my kidneys and my soul. But perhaps a small 25-key one just for the occasion when I need to add expression to strings, guitars and woodwind.
I sort of know what you mean, but I think that is because we are hearing someone completely new try it out - and we are seeing more or less raw video of that session - which I find very helpful. I am guessing this instrument will need real technique to play - which will require hours of (enjoyable) practice. As a violinist and pianist I am imagining that this will combine both techniques - allowing me to add the expressiveness of the violin to the brilliance of the piano.
I am literally in tears. All I have in the world is piano, and these guys reimagined it. I just hope I can come up with the money sometime this year to get one. The first edition is flawlessly beautiful.
There's an interesting microtonal piano called the Fluid Piano --- useful for playing Indian ragas that would normally only be played with the sitar and similar instruments. But the Seaboard seems more versatile, in terms of sounds --- and also a bit easier to use, from what I've seen. Get a good sitar sample (or better yet, a "virtual sitar", if such a thing exists), and go to town with it.
Gosh, you are forcing me to play the piano again - "Sir" Roland Lamb. We can built a very powerful organ, can't we? Will you make also the pedal version available? So, great. I have been trying to give ideas and info on the needs of musicians (well, at least my need) to some music principals which I have the connection through the company I have been working since 1990. You have come out with the answer. Cheers!
Amazing. Something new since the well-tempered clavier was developed. Kind of Eastern and Western musical culture mixed together on that feeling touch. I've got a feeling there will be some people having lots of fun… :-)
A great step forward, but you can only get some of the control messages to work with most instruments. I STILL would have to use at least 1 pedal or breath controller to simply control vibrato and dynamics! Many wont even respond to a semitone slide, just a whole tone. Even with SWAM instruments, it is not there. Maybe in another 20 years we will get a second step forward. Maybe people will program for this for it to work as described, but the on board instruments left me very few I would use. As I find little use for this x/y and sliders, (the point is to have controls at my fingertips when playing), maybe the new $300 Roli 2 octave will be an improvement. Still hopeful and supportive.
Most of the demo's of the Seaboard are plagued by disturbing low frequency resonances. Most sound very artificial. The visible lack of stability of the stand also needs to improve. The concept hopefully matures. Go go go....
What is it made of? It looks like you can get lost in it.😧🎇❣️👍👍 I believe he is.😂🎹🌻❤️ i'm going to buy one soon as I can make the phone call I will order one thank you for the demo it's great.🙋🏻❣️👍👍🌹
He learned to play on a beater piano with metal keytops, that gave him that left hand on the Fender Rhodes bass. He would tear holes in that squishy stuff.
I doubt it. Real pianos won't lose its value and will be played by many great classical pianists over the time. This keyboard will only replace synthesizers at best
ChrisLeePiano It won't replace synths. It's just a MIDI controller all it does is give more possibilities that a standard keyboard can't. I don't think that'll it'll damage the way you play a piano either. Because it simply isn't a piano and it needs to be approached in a different way.
I think you would learn how to play it differently than a real piano, and be able to keep the two separate, as how someone who plays an electric guitar and an acoustic guitar would do.
In one sense it is like the differences between an electric fretted bass and an upright bass violin: lots of carry over, but you would still need to practice the things unique to each to master both. There are simply things you cannot do on both basses. I wonder if this is true here though. I would imagine though that you might play this exclusively, if it does in fact have a real piano tone, simply because it seems you can do everything on this that you can on a piano, but not the reverse.
a lot of people don't realize that this thing only works with their proprietary synth engine "equator" which only has a few hundred sounds, most of them generic and quite frankly useless. only a few of the sounds stand out. omnisphere 2 is the only other synth engine I know of that can fully use the seaboards features but requires hours of fiddling around. it's the same beef I have with the roli blocks for the iphone.
Sadly most rubber contacts wear out if not pressure limited by a good mechanical key design that keeps hard players easy on things. The squishy feel adds a tiny bit of time as I hear it in the fast fingering. I am comparing things to Hammond waterfall classic design with it's long key. Some of those squishy rubbers rot on exposure hand oils. Hipster electronica will glom onto that sickening out of tune sound, they never had to hear a worn out 8-track or hardened rubber wheel in a turntable. I am more impressed with Geoshread if it's fast enough and on a bigger surface.
when he plays My Funny Valentine all the bending and effects etc just make it sound out of tune, might help to get a more realistic sound for instruments that can slide and bend notes like guitar but it's still not better than a guitar (or even equal)
Another example of terrible product demo's - none of these licks were interesting, all the synth sounds were bland - please hire a professional to make a demo. I'm so tired of product demo's being like a year 8 music class. Script your demo's, prepare the songs you will play and execute like an Apple ad!
Joel Brown More than just a controller, the Seaboard features Equator, a full-featured onboard audio engine designed specifically for use with a multi-dimensional instrument like the Seaboard, meaning that it requires no external audio devices to create music: just plug in a pair of headphones, or connect it to an amplifier, and you're ready to go.
Антон Шариков If you plan on playing a full Beethoven sonata with repetitions on this keyboard, you would probably be tired soon (or sooner than with a normal piano or keyboard). But if you buy this keyboard to play a Beethoven sonata, you're dumb.
Brilliant! The way Jamie struggles to describe it ...shows it's breaking really new ground! Great stuff
Question: If the black membrane gets damaged can a new one be purchased and laid on top relatively speedily or is it a major refit? Thanks
Vangelis would love this keyboard
There is an alien on the wall behind Jamie!!! o_0
give one of these to james blake
or Jeremy Ellis!!
Nick Stephens I thought the same
Brilliant sounds and playing by Jamie. I love how expressive this instrument can be, enabling you to control those parameters and still play with both hands seems very freeing. I'd love to get my hands on one.
I really could just listen to Jamie play on this thing randomly for hours
He got me at 'My Funny Valentine' :)
Being a cellist, I've caught myself trying to vibrato on piano keys before the same way that Jamie did at 7:00 haha.
Sometimes my hands would get angry subconsciously and they would be really violent vibratos that did nothing.
(This is an old comment so I don't expect a reply) I'm a pianist (and only knows keyboard) but I definitely subconsciously add vibrato to the keys when playing string instruments on my controller too. I also do all sorts of gestures to the plastic keys when playing flute and guitar on my controller trying to get the effects of the real thing. But of course, none of my gestures works. I'm SOOOO tempted to buy this. Not the full-sized one, I'll need to sell my kidneys and my soul. But perhaps a small 25-key one just for the occasion when I need to add expression to strings, guitars and woodwind.
I sort of know what you mean, but I think that is because we are hearing someone completely new try it out - and we are seeing more or less raw video of that session - which I find very helpful. I am guessing this instrument will need real technique to play - which will require hours of (enjoyable) practice. As a violinist and pianist I am imagining that this will combine both techniques - allowing me to add the expressiveness of the violin to the brilliance of the piano.
I swear, somebody needs to claim that tune he plays at 13:15 because I think it has real potential to be a major hit!
Not even kidding; I saw this yesterday, and have already started writing something similar.
I am literally in tears. All I have in the world is piano, and these guys reimagined it. I just hope I can come up with the money sometime this year to get one. The first edition is flawlessly beautiful.
Quick question: does the Seaboard Grand have built-in amplifiers or does it need extern ones?
If you could get the nord stage 2 library of patches onto this keyboard I would buy an 88 key and a 24 key one immediately
yes we can use it.. all the song bank or sound banks of keyboards through midi in and midi out
Letting Jamie let rip on any keyboard you'd better hope it's resilient as hell
There's an interesting microtonal piano called the Fluid Piano --- useful for playing Indian ragas that would normally only be played with the sitar and similar instruments. But the Seaboard seems more versatile, in terms of sounds --- and also a bit easier to use, from what I've seen. Get a good sitar sample (or better yet, a "virtual sitar", if such a thing exists), and go to town with it.
13:05 onwards my favorite part :-)
Just makes everything sound like a Blade Runner soundtrack!
How do you change sounds? what does the meddle thing do?
Jaimie Vanderhouck I think that's what changes between sounds? www.roli.com/products/seaboard-grand
Gosh, you are forcing me to play the piano again - "Sir" Roland Lamb. We can built a very powerful organ, can't we? Will you make also the pedal version available? So, great. I have been trying to give ideas and info on the needs of musicians (well, at least my need) to some music principals which I have the connection through the company I have been working since 1990. You have come out with the answer. Cheers!
Give one to Jonny Greenwood
oh boy
Speechless... I want one!
This is one of the top most interesting instruments that I have seen! wow!
It sounds like from art songs especially radiohead
I like that and mysterious beautiful sound
this is truly some like alien organic musical tech with fleshy keys...
Es espectacular, lo que estuve soñando! :-) Felicidades!
Amazing. Something new since the well-tempered clavier was developed. Kind of Eastern and Western musical culture mixed together on that feeling touch. I've got a feeling there will be some people having lots of fun…
:-)
is the song in 13:05 a real song and if so please tell me what it's called
OMFG im so in love with this
So much of this reminds me of so many games
this thing would have been worth millions in the 70'-80's. fukn love it.
A great step forward, but you can only get some of the control messages to work with most instruments. I STILL would have to use at least 1 pedal or breath controller to simply control vibrato and dynamics! Many wont even respond to a semitone slide, just a whole tone. Even with SWAM instruments, it is not there. Maybe in another 20 years we will get a second step forward. Maybe people will program for this for it to work as described, but the on board instruments left me very few I would use. As I find little use for this x/y and sliders, (the point is to have controls at my fingertips when playing), maybe the new $300 Roli 2 octave will be an improvement. Still hopeful and supportive.
13m20 do u know it's from who ?
what song is that starting at 2:05
Jamie, you're just great! 😎💖👍
is it controlling a vst? wich one?
the sound is all built in, sadly i don't think it can be used as a usb/midi controller
brobocops
I thought they were working on the midi functionality?
I want one!!
Never thought 'My Funny Valentine' would fit in the ROLI!!
i will wait for the discount !!!! :D
Still waiting... 👀
15:19 was probably the best part musically :)
i neeeeed thisss
Jordan Rudess shoukd try this! He can do amazing things with anything that has keys))
And he did. :D
Would be cool a smaller and cheaper version with midi out/in so you can control a synth/keyboard sounds.
Bruno Lacerda ROLI Seaboard.
Reminds me of the instrument Melota plays in Star Trek NG; Unification Part II.
Impressive... But does it blend?
Vangelis + Seaboard please.
i'd like to try one )
Most of the demo's of the Seaboard are plagued by disturbing low frequency resonances. Most sound very artificial. The visible lack of stability of the stand also needs to improve. The concept hopefully matures. Go go go....
izsak itt Take into account that there's a software that comes with it that allows you to control lots of the features.
its great now
I think you enjoyed that, Mr C.
Which seaboard is this
As you can see from the number of (octaves??) it really looks like the Seaboard GRAND Limited First Edition
well done ROLI !!!!!
Play some strings.. Like string library.. Like to see the bend in sound there.. Can we make violin sound more real with this..
Its a bit grotesque looking, but sounds amazing.
I would love this controller too :D
give it to cory henry :D
done! he plays Spain on it and it's UNBELIEVABLE
@@MrLeBatave Just great and so much! 👌
The price tag makes me cry
parabéns,muita excentricidade..哈哈
Where can I sell my kidney for it?
Ahahahah! Only one isn t enough!
Looks like a fleshlight piano
give this kit to HIROMI UEHARA. that girl gonna rip the shit outta this device.
Does he play Snarky Puppy?
What is it made of? It looks like you can get lost in it.😧🎇❣️👍👍 I believe he is.😂🎹🌻❤️ i'm going to buy one soon as I can make the phone call I will order one thank you for the demo it's great.🙋🏻❣️👍👍🌹
vangelis would love this and gill scott heron..rip
once you find a sound you like can it remember it? Save it?
X caliber I believe this is only a midi controller..... Obviously it controls hardware and software.... So that's where you save your sounds!
There are two models, the Rise, which is only a midi controller, and the Grand, the one in this video, that has sounds.
Tami é vocÊ? kkkk
could have listened longer
looks like a next-gen Ondes Martenot
11 people are Guitar Hero musicians
if only Ray Manzarek is still alive.
He learned to play on a beater piano with metal keytops, that gave him that left hand on the Fender Rhodes bass. He would tear holes in that squishy stuff.
Looks like it's made out of Batman's suit.
the stand is too wobbly though , cool instrument!
I think trent reznor will like this...
this guy sounds like Bob Ross
My cat didn't like it at 8:50! Haha
It's great, but the price...
I feel like continuation of playing this keyboard might damage the way you play the real piano
I doubt it. Real pianos won't lose its value and will be played by many great classical pianists over the time. This keyboard will only replace synthesizers at best
ChrisLeePiano It won't replace synths. It's just a MIDI controller all it does is give more possibilities that a standard keyboard can't. I don't think that'll it'll damage the way you play a piano either. Because it simply isn't a piano and it needs to be approached in a different way.
I think you would learn how to play it differently than a real piano, and be able to keep the two separate, as how someone who plays an electric guitar and an acoustic guitar would do.
In one sense it is like the differences between an electric fretted bass and an upright bass violin: lots of carry over, but you would still need to practice the things unique to each to master both. There are simply things you cannot do on both basses.
I wonder if this is true here though. I would imagine though that you might play this exclusively, if it does in fact have a real piano tone, simply because it seems you can do everything on this that you can on a piano, but not the reverse.
This is a lame point, because piano skills would tarnish your use of this instrument as well. They are just two different, similar instruments.
sounds funny
Lucky it's a synth and you can choose whatever tones you want, eh?
hmmm
i dont think anyone has actually learned how to use one of these yet. its going to take a few years.
jordan rudess do
dico andila Pretty sure Jordan Rudess could find a way to play a cat musically. That man is a genius
take my money
mmm
Pianos are so last millennium.
Must be nice to have an extra $10,000 lying around for one of these lol
If we can make those keys more solid like real keys as piano’s, it may more expensive but it’s gonna work better
a lot of people don't realize that this thing only works with their proprietary synth engine "equator" which only has a few hundred sounds, most of them generic and quite frankly useless. only a few of the sounds stand out. omnisphere 2 is the only other synth engine I know of that can fully use the seaboards features but requires hours of fiddling around. it's the same beef I have with the roli blocks for the iphone.
Sadly most rubber contacts wear out if not pressure limited by a good mechanical key design that keeps hard players easy on things. The squishy feel adds a tiny bit of time as I hear it in the fast fingering. I am comparing things to Hammond waterfall classic design with it's long key. Some of those squishy rubbers rot on exposure hand oils. Hipster electronica will glom onto that sickening out of tune sound, they never had to hear a worn out 8-track or hardened rubber wheel in a turntable. I am more impressed with Geoshread if it's fast enough and on a bigger surface.
I bet it costs an eyeball..
8000+ dollars, actually...
mmhmm .... mhhmmm ..... mhhmmm ..... mhhmmmm
when he plays My Funny Valentine all the bending and effects etc just make it sound out of tune, might help to get a more realistic sound for instruments that can slide and bend notes like guitar but it's still not better than a guitar (or even equal)
uhm uhm uhm uhm he cant normally talk? omg
It's just when you concentrate on it.. I've seen/heard much worse cases in school
Toca algo más alegre por favor
Парень, те звуки что ты издавал не этом инструменте, они ужасны!
Another example of terrible product demo's - none of these licks were interesting, all the synth sounds were bland - please hire a professional to make a demo. I'm so tired of product demo's being like a year 8 music class. Script your demo's, prepare the songs you will play and execute like an Apple ad!
WHATS THE POLYPHONY ON THESE???
It's a controller, Polyphony is only limited by the sound module or your computer. edit: sorry I'm wrong.
Im sure someone told me it has its own sounds
Andrew Kosiba Nope, it has built in sounds man.
Joel Brown More than just a controller, the Seaboard features Equator, a full-featured onboard audio engine designed specifically for use with a multi-dimensional instrument like the Seaboard, meaning that it requires no external audio devices to create music: just plug in a pair of headphones, or connect it to an amplifier, and you're ready to go.
My cat would destroy this..
It sounds bad. Also it seems like rubber too hard, so sensitivity is low. Hands are tired too fast I see it in the video.
You haven't even tried it yet, but you have so much to say. Whenever there's innovation, people like you are bound to always say something too early.
Антон Шариков If you plan on playing a full Beethoven sonata with repetitions on this keyboard, you would probably be tired soon (or sooner than with a normal piano or keyboard). But if you buy this keyboard to play a Beethoven sonata, you're dumb.
gekauft.
Unnatural as a sound. at the beginning do not mass with real piano sounds. .. sorry
This is a fantastic keyboard but the demo is horrible. Please check out the other demos on-line and you will die to have one.
Does he notice that he is out of tune a lot?^^
Kinda sounds crap tbh.