Dana would literally pull your press badge and prevent you from attending the event hence why almost no reporter unless youve had skin in the game ever challenges him i remember when he made it only ufc media reporters can be there
@@legendofawwsheet5883exactly and this meeda to get out more. People meed to know. He triea to bully intimate amd ban reporters that dont do free PR for the ufc
@@TheNotoriousLCB yep Luke also could've brought up when he dismissed Jones for wanting "Wilder money ", saying that's crazy Now all of a sudden he pays more than the top boxers get paid. Ok
Another brain dead social media comment passed of by its publisher like it's the gods truth. Dana has been bad mouthed from fellow fighters and promoters since the 2000's, in part because like all promotors, like politicians, he a lie!
What does Kevin Iole have on Dana?? He’s the only reporter that asks Dana hard questions and doesn’t back down to him and still gets 1 on 1 interviews every big PPV
@@matlenaghan7488 no he absolutely wasn't 😂😂😂 he was offered just a little more than Brock Lesnar made. Single digit millions. Even if it was 9 mil, it's less than he made boxing. But it definitely was less than 9 mil. Plus Francis made double what he made against Fury in the AJ fight. Francis made more in 2 boxing fights than in his whole MMA career. Including if you add on what he'd made if he'd fought Jones. You just pulled 23 mil out of your ass. No body, not even Conor comes close to that kind of money FFS 😂.
@Bobby.2000 It was public, ngannou was asked if that was the case and he said yes it was true but the ufc wouldn't give him an exemption in the contract to box as well so he rejected the deal. Now is your chance to apologise profusely for your outright lies.
This is patently absurd even for Dana. Ngannou fought two of the three big names (or two out of four if you want to still put Wilder in there along with Usyk) at HW in shows put on in Saudi Arabia. He made an enormous bag.
He made 30 mil for two fights according to publicly available info. Just purse. nothing else. ngannou called dana on his shit and made life changing money.
Francis wanted health care for all fighters, the freedom to go box, and he wanted the ufc to go to Africa and the ufc was unwilling to do even one of these things. It sucks that the narrative is that he left because of money because money wasn’t an issue at all for Francis it was the aforementioned things.
I remember arguing with Dana apologists. Yes, francis could have fought another 15 times and he would have made 100 million$ so long as he kept winning… or you can get 10 mil for 1 night of work (probably closer to 15-18 mil). Why wouldn’t you take a high guarantee with a shorter contract?
Not only did Francis make close to 30 million for both boxing matches (minus endorsements, stipulations, etc.), but he can tell his future kids and family that he went toe-to-toe with arguably the top boxing heavyweight champion at the time in Fury. That’s a win-win situation for Francis.
Few points re Dana's comments: 1. Just because Dana says it doesn't take it true (we ALL can agree with that) 2. If boxing is so messed up why is Dana getting involved via zuffa boxing? 3. Dana acknowledges/accepts the millions pumped in by the Saudi thereby indicating the vast purses given. 4. Re rankings - The UFC picked the media who rank the fighters (some of which are so small it's a wonder how they were chosen). Regardless, Dana blaming the media is laughable as UFC pick them. 5. Re AI - it's already here. What's the delay by UFC to use it?
even that 1 million dollars is more than he got for the majority of his stay at the UFC. I’m talking about Nate Diaz. And that was his fault going through a janky promoter
if there ever was a real representation of Homelander, it would be Dana White. the terrifying smile, acts like a baby when asked tough questions, bans journalists and etc. the real Homelander frfr
Between the Fury and Joshua fight he literally went from making 600k to $30 million 😂😂😂 TAX FREE. Also, if you just look at the overall pay structure of boxing compared to mma it’s a joke how much the ufc is fleecing these fighters. They need the Ali act to be applied to mma that’s the only way that they’ll ever be a chance for it to be rectified. The ufc doesn’t even give fighters a percentage of the gate not to mention how low the revenue share is it’s actually a joke. Canelo literally took home 80% of the revenue with his event with Berlanga and sold around 750k ppv buys when you compare that to a comparable star like Conor it’s a joke how much Conor is actual UNDERPAID for his revenue generation if he was a boxer instead it’s why Conor wants out of his ufc contract atm imo
If other promotions weren't managed so poorly they could give easily give the UFC some competition. Bellator hiring Coker who had already bankrupted his last organization just showed they were clueless. The secret is simple hire exciting fighters pay them more than the ufc and promote the fights. Bellator instead hired a bunch of boring fighters, promoted nothing, couldnt even make main events 5 rounds and went bankrupt
This doesn't make sense to me. From what I can tell, BLS has median pro boxer pay around the same level as the median when you look at the UFC roster pay list. But in the UFC, fans will see just about all of the fights on a card while in boxing no one watches anything but the main event. This means more exposure and other ways to earn money for MMA fighters, it would seem. During covid, I didn't see boxing make a commitment to keep going. I don't see the promotion effort from boxing like with the UFC. I don't see things like a Performance Institute in boxing, maybe it exists but I don't know about one. It seems the overhead costs for UFC are much higher. I think the hate on the UFC is misguided. That said, I think the UFC should get rid of the fight kits - I heard a lot of fighters say they could dramatically increase their earnings on fight night before the fight kits with Reebok came around. That is a change that could be reversed and help the fighters. Also, I liked that you always knew certain fighters like Chuck with those Iceman trunks.
What else is he going to say? Dana White is full of sh!t Many fighters complain about pay, not just Ngannou. Ngannou made more money for the Fury fight than multiple of his UFC fights.
@@Professor_Pink Not necessarily. UFC makes far more money from events and thus can pay him $5+ million a fight and still make bank while PFL would be in the hole. This is why all MMA promotions in past 20 years have failed(Pride, Affliction, Bellator, EliteXC, Strikeforce..etc). The only reason Ngannou took the PFL deal was so he could get Saudi money for boxing but that has nothing to do with PFL's business model.
If I remember correctly, Francis stated he was offered about $8 mil for the whole new contract,3 fights maybe? But don't recall any time he mentioned $8 million just to fight Jones. Also he fought out his contract, so if they wanted him to fight Jones they could have made rhat fight happen while he earned only $600k per title fight as per his last active contract, right before leaving the UFC. But as Danna White said himself once, Jones was asking for a ridiculous amount of money to fight Francis, basically saying that when you ask for that kind of money you don't really wanna fight Francis.
What he said made no sense about the $8 million. There has never been a contract for a big modern champion like that where there wasn't PPV points and other things. He was just vague saying it was a trick with just $8 million as if the UFC wasn't thinking he would have a lawyer and manager read over it. To this day I have no idea wtf he was trying to say.
This is actually the truth. Everything is just vague. Until Francis shows verified proof of his earnings and we see his proposed contract to sign with UFC to make a accurate judgement then this is all hearsay.
This is an obvious lie from Dana, but it's not surprising that he tried to sell this bs. He'll say anything in front of a mic to make himself look like he's always correct & everyone else is wrong. Dana might be the biggest narcissist on the planet, Dana's own response admits that the Saudi's are paying ridiculous amounts for fights... it's classic Dana double-talk
One of the main reasons Francis left the UFC was its restrictive nature. Hopefully pfl provides the flexibility he wants with the option of boxing while still upholding and honoring contractual agreements. The issue is not so much about the amount one makes, but the rules of engagement.
Luke if you add a Polarizer Filter on that camera you might remove the reflections of your glasses thus not showing those blue screens. I would give it a go! Keep up the good work!
For one Francis did not re sign and turned down 7 million he could have made for fights as champ. This was publicly said by Francis and Dana. He made 10 million to fight Tyson. 20 for Joshua. Honestly he probably could have made that if he got Jon jones fight or was active and defending but would certainly not have been in two fights. Over the amount of time of inactivity he turned down UFC championship level money to go box and chase his dream we all praised him for that and rightly so: we don’t know the exact numbers for one. And for two while this statement is exaggerated I don’t think it’s as hyperbolic as we’re all acting like it is
Even if it is true would they have treated him better? What Francis's situation highlighted was how unfair the UFC treatment can be. And if he stayed who is to say they wouldn't have done it again. Francis leaving was the best for him
Dana has the same basis for Ngannou making as much money or more in the UFC as he does for Powerslap out performing all of sports on the planet in viewership. Only Dana had "the numbers". He is the only one that knows anything about everything. Such a powerhouse he is.
People forget that a UFC fighter's money is mostly in the PPV sales. Conors purses are only like 2 - 5 million but then after the PPV numbers comes back he gets another 10 million or more.
It’s crazy that people think an mma fighter who was offered 8 million plus ppv to fight the goat create history n secure his legacy as one of if not the best was being ripped off? I’m don’t tune in to peoples careers to see if they’re making tens of millions.
2:00 Dana just pissed because boxing been doing better than MMA for the last two years , look at the cards , look at the matchup , and massive 96,000 stadiums being filled . Why do you think Dana White wants to get involved in boxing?
Your final line could use some help, Luke. "Francis made the right call as to where he'd make the most money AND have the most freedom to make money elsewhere (outside of the PFL), help his fellow fighters with bigger paydays, and to make the biggest general point about bucking the trend of top talent just always sticking with the glamorous but corporate-minded and petty UFC." Fixed.
Ngannou couldn't even get one fight with Jon Jones. In fact, while Ngannou was fighting, Jon was all crickets. Jon didn't come out of the woodwork until Ngannou started to state that the Gane fight was the last on his contract and that he would not renew.
Imo, frank was just unrealistic.. he was getting 8 mil per fight (highest hw) but wanted cut off ppv (you do when champ), wanted free health benefits & a fighter rep.. umm that's what his manager was supposed to do.. rep the fighter.. & he'd afford his own benefits imo.. plus wanted even more money. I think a manager got in his head & made him high-demand himself out of a job..
I think Francis in the long run would have had a more respected career within the UFC, boxing is the only fans of fighting, and the PFL?? who cares about that organization. The UFC is a slick well put together gold standard of MMA, and just chasing the money isn't always the smartest overall decision for anyone. Him beating jones would have made him a megastar.
If Dana says there isn’t a cloud in the sky , bring an umbrella
I always find it hilarious when people say even Dana thinks x won. Example Strickland vs dpp
Brilliant 😆
So true. Uncle Fester is a compulsive liar
Dana White said that power slap has a higher viewership than freaking soccer. lmao, you can't trust anything the guy says 😂
Summary: a liar lied
Pants on fire
I came to see this comment and then left for another video🤣🤣🤣
@@MangoFish78 Glad to have saved you some time! 😆
I appreciate you
Dana thinks if he yells, turns red, and curses he wins the argument.
Wish more ppl pushed backed when he is talking nonsense
I mean is he wrong? Seems like 95% of the general public believes him
@@sknockout they also believed that you would die from a house cold and needed to get 6 shots of jungle juice to fight it...
LOL. Luke is one of them.
Dana has a 'media rehearsal' before the actual thing, let that sink in.
Dana would literally pull your press badge and prevent you from attending the event hence why almost no reporter unless youve had skin in the game ever challenges him i remember when he made it only ufc media reporters can be there
@@legendofawwsheet5883exactly and this meeda to get out more. People meed to know. He triea to bully intimate amd ban reporters that dont do free PR for the ufc
Dana "I don't like crossover fights" White
Also him "sure, Fury should come over, we'll have him, he can fight Jones"😊
these comments were in the same week lol
Dana's hypocrite to his core & a wife abuser
@@TheNotoriousLCB yep
Luke also could've brought up when he dismissed Jones for wanting "Wilder money ", saying that's crazy
Now all of a sudden he pays more than the top boxers get paid. Ok
@@szotakandrei 🤫 Stop telling the truth…
Dana doesn't crossover matches unless he gets a cut out of it. Didn't Conor have to fork out 20% and give it to UFC for the Mayweather fight.
One thing Dana White knows is his audience. They eat all of the words as truth.
Lol what? People DONT think Dana is a clown? 😂
More like the complete opposite. Everyone has been calling him out on all social media posts with anything with Dana
Another brain dead social media comment passed of by its publisher like it's the gods truth. Dana has been bad mouthed from fellow fighters and promoters since the 2000's, in part because like all promotors, like politicians, he a lie!
@@scroopynooperz9051no because he is a millionaire and it requires a certain level of intelligence to get there for which u and me are not capable.
......dude, 95% of the comments I’ve seen on videos about Dana saying this were calling it out as BS.
What does Kevin Iole have on Dana?? He’s the only reporter that asks Dana hard questions and doesn’t back down to him and still gets 1 on 1 interviews every big PPV
He likes Kevin. Kevin reads Dana very well. Kevin is in 'the club' so Dana puts up with it. My guess.
@@didgyaKevin Iole has a lot of street cred from his career in boxing media. Dana can't get away with treating him how he treated Ariel.
Kevin Iole asks hard questions, but that doesn't mean he isn't conteoled .
Probably controlled opposition lol we have seen alot of this in propaganda
@@threeskin1 You taught Mr something. Thank you
I’m no math whizz but $10 million is way more than $800K if you ask me
He was offered 23 million before ppv pts to fight jones.
@@matlenaghan7488when he was offered 23 millions
@@matlenaghan7488 no he absolutely wasn't 😂😂😂 he was offered just a little more than Brock Lesnar made. Single digit millions. Even if it was 9 mil, it's less than he made boxing. But it definitely was less than 9 mil. Plus Francis made double what he made against Fury in the AJ fight. Francis made more in 2 boxing fights than in his whole MMA career. Including if you add on what he'd made if he'd fought Jones. You just pulled 23 mil out of your ass. No body, not even Conor comes close to that kind of money FFS 😂.
@Bobby.2000 It was public, ngannou was asked if that was the case and he said yes it was true but the ufc wouldn't give him an exemption in the contract to box as well so he rejected the deal.
Now is your chance to apologise profusely for your outright lies.
@@matlenaghan7488 Link to this? Or are you just spouting nonsense? (You are)
Dana's right if Francis signed a 200 fight deal and fought jones 182 times he would've made more money
This is patently absurd even for Dana. Ngannou fought two of the three big names (or two out of four if you want to still put Wilder in there along with Usyk) at HW in shows put on in Saudi Arabia. He made an enormous bag.
Boxing without a DOUBT pays more
Yeah for the top 1% of boxers
@@JaromousWorld champion contenders in the UFC have second jobs too Bro 👊🤣
@@Jaromous sike in general
He made 30 mil for two fights according to publicly available info. Just purse. nothing else. ngannou called dana on his shit and made life changing money.
Idk who's dumber, Dana White or the average UFC fan who believes him?
The average ufc fan.
i'm ufc fan and i can count to 6
Francis wanted health care for all fighters, the freedom to go box, and he wanted the ufc to go to Africa and the ufc was unwilling to do even one of these things. It sucks that the narrative is that he left because of money because money wasn’t an issue at all for Francis it was the aforementioned things.
Dana is a salty ex-girlfriend
A salty ex girlfriend who married a sugar daddy and thinks her shit doesn't stink
I remember arguing with Dana apologists. Yes, francis could have fought another 15 times and he would have made 100 million$ so long as he kept winning… or you can get 10 mil for 1 night of work (probably closer to 15-18 mil). Why wouldn’t you take a high guarantee with a shorter contract?
Thanks for bringing this up. About time someone called bullshit on this. Jon jones best ppv is 650k
Jones vs Cormier 2 860k.
So you are saying Ngannou isn't big enough star to draw ?
Francis best ppv is 330k ppv buys.
@@johnfury316 brootal
@@tgo007 are you dumb I never mentioned Jon Jones learn to read.
Not only did Francis make close to 30 million for both boxing matches (minus endorsements, stipulations, etc.), but he can tell his future kids and family that he went toe-to-toe with arguably the top boxing heavyweight champion at the time in Fury. That’s a win-win situation for Francis.
Dana also said his slap fighting org is the biggest in all of sport, yea...
When someone's clearly gaslighting you, there's no sense responding.
Yup, Dana is the king of gaslighting.
Few points re Dana's comments:
1. Just because Dana says it doesn't take it true (we ALL can agree with that)
2. If boxing is so messed up why is Dana getting involved via zuffa boxing?
3. Dana acknowledges/accepts the millions pumped in by the Saudi thereby indicating the vast purses given.
4. Re rankings - The UFC picked the media who rank the fighters (some of which are so small it's a wonder how they were chosen). Regardless, Dana blaming the media is laughable as UFC pick them.
5. Re AI - it's already here. What's the delay by UFC to use it?
I listen at 2x speed and at 0:34 I lost it. Lol
Applaud you bro, I can't find enough things to listen to through the work day, I can't imagine finding good enough content to double time it lol
Me too! I usually am listening at 1.5x and the interview clip caught me off-guard haha😂
Never believe anything that comes out of Dana White's mouth.
Dana white will also tell us that he never slapped his wife and that it was just a promo for power slap😂😂😂
Luke censoring swear words while reading Dana’s quote is so funny, I genuinely don’t know any media member who swears live more than luke
even that 1 million dollars is more than he got for the majority of his stay at the UFC. I’m talking about Nate Diaz. And that was his fault going through a janky promoter
I loathe Dana.
Dont believe a word from Dana
if there ever was a real representation of Homelander, it would be Dana White. the terrifying smile, acts like a baby when asked tough questions, bans journalists and etc. the real Homelander frfr
The fact is that there was numerous things that the UFC could of done to make a fight happen between Ngannou & Jones that they didn't do....
Between the Fury and Joshua fight he literally went from making 600k to $30 million 😂😂😂 TAX FREE. Also, if you just look at the overall pay structure of boxing compared to mma it’s a joke how much the ufc is fleecing these fighters. They need the Ali act to be applied to mma that’s the only way that they’ll ever be a chance for it to be rectified. The ufc doesn’t even give fighters a percentage of the gate not to mention how low the revenue share is it’s actually a joke. Canelo literally took home 80% of the revenue with his event with Berlanga and sold around 750k ppv buys when you compare that to a comparable star like Conor it’s a joke how much Conor is actual UNDERPAID for his revenue generation if he was a boxer instead it’s why Conor wants out of his ufc contract atm imo
If other promotions weren't managed so poorly they could give easily give the UFC some competition. Bellator hiring Coker who had already bankrupted his last organization just showed they were clueless. The secret is simple hire exciting fighters pay them more than the ufc and promote the fights. Bellator instead hired a bunch of boring fighters, promoted nothing, couldnt even make main events 5 rounds and went bankrupt
There's like 10 boxers that actually make money. Everyone else gets paid waaaaaay less than the average UFC fighter, lol.
This doesn't make sense to me. From what I can tell, BLS has median pro boxer pay around the same level as the median when you look at the UFC roster pay list. But in the UFC, fans will see just about all of the fights on a card while in boxing no one watches anything but the main event. This means more exposure and other ways to earn money for MMA fighters, it would seem. During covid, I didn't see boxing make a commitment to keep going. I don't see the promotion effort from boxing like with the UFC. I don't see things like a Performance Institute in boxing, maybe it exists but I don't know about one. It seems the overhead costs for UFC are much higher. I think the hate on the UFC is misguided. That said, I think the UFC should get rid of the fight kits - I heard a lot of fighters say they could dramatically increase their earnings on fight night before the fight kits with Reebok came around. That is a change that could be reversed and help the fighters. Also, I liked that you always knew certain fighters like Chuck with those Iceman trunks.
@@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 you writing a novel?
@@JM-cf9xy Two of them.
I heard the clip so It don't matter but damn why play it if it's gonna be so sped up lmao
Of course it's not true lol stop it
I could get singed by ufc tonight
@@Tommyk3576 Yea im sure they will sing you right away
He made more in his 2 fights in boxing than his entire ufc career
What on earth is the point of fast forwarding that? its not understandable
Francis literally made more money to fight fury than he made in his entire career and would have made after fighting jon jones
Jones wasn't fighting Francis
He made less boxing than in ufc? Say what lol
Dana being Dana
He was very lucky there are saudi billionaires out there willing to pay even if there is no profit
I know lol the headline like wrote is backwards hahaha he put less Instead of more
@@shyme_8280 They don't need the profit. They bought what they wanted to see. When you can print money everything isn't about business.
What else is he going to say? Dana White is full of sh!t
Many fighters complain about pay, not just Ngannou. Ngannou made more money for the Fury fight than multiple of his UFC fights.
The classic Trump playbook of lying and then lying and when you get caught lie again
If Dana talks crap about how these guys lose all this money and how it doesn’t work and how the trillions lose money… why is he doing it?
Dana is a syndrome at this point
He plays the "I know things you don't" card to get around every tough question
LOL WE ALL KNOW DANA IS LYING!!!! FRANCIS GOT PAID MORE FOR BOXING ONLY 2 FIGHTS MORE THEN HE EVER MADE IN THE UFC!!!
Well explained. Thanks.. Francis made the right call.
Francis made 16 million fighting Anthony Joshua so no he can't make more in the UFC
I'll never let Luke live down "olive leaf"
“Allegedly” for me
Francis is gonna bankrupt the PFL.
So he is making more money then?
@@Professor_Pink Not necessarily. UFC makes far more money from events and thus can pay him $5+ million a fight and still make bank while PFL would be in the hole. This is why all MMA promotions in past 20 years have failed(Pride, Affliction, Bellator, EliteXC, Strikeforce..etc). The only reason Ngannou took the PFL deal was so he could get Saudi money for boxing but that has nothing to do with PFL's business model.
@@vlcheish What a long winded series of irrelevant statements. Is Francis making more or less outside the UFC? More.
@@Professor_Pink We are not talking about the Saudis knucklehead. Reread the original comment "Francis is gonna bankrupt the PFL".
@@Professor_Pink youre talking about a different topic. try and keep up
Dana white and donald trump are truly two peas in a pod. It's like they share a brain.
If I remember correctly, Francis stated he was offered about $8 mil for the whole new contract,3 fights maybe? But don't recall any time he mentioned $8 million just to fight Jones. Also he fought out his contract, so if they wanted him to fight Jones they could have made rhat fight happen while he earned only $600k per title fight as per his last active contract, right before leaving the UFC. But as Danna White said himself once, Jones was asking for a ridiculous amount of money to fight Francis, basically saying that when you ask for that kind of money you don't really wanna fight Francis.
What he said made no sense about the $8 million. There has never been a contract for a big modern champion like that where there wasn't PPV points and other things. He was just vague saying it was a trick with just $8 million as if the UFC wasn't thinking he would have a lawyer and manager read over it. To this day I have no idea wtf he was trying to say.
Jones wanted 30 million. Remember when he went on a twitter rant and told the ufc to release him because they wouldn't pay him that.
@@__D-B__ Long time ago and he has fought since then.
@@vlcheishhe signed a new contract since then and is making more with the UFC than Franny is with the PFL.
@@AmberLobry that is true
If Dana tells you the snow is white, I'd have doubts...
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, Dana White will tell you it's a tree
Dana White is getting as bad as his friend Donald Trump!
"I know the numbers", but I'll never say the numbers. He's so transparent in his dishonesty.
A defense attorney would love to have Luke in his jury list
Bro.. glad to see you're getting healthy. Thank you for your unparalleled coverage over the years.
Luke "Effing" Thomas
Even if he didn't make more, what Dana said seems in such bad taste. Just be happy for the guy.
This video is pointless, all these number are literally just hearsay and estimates.
This is actually the truth. Everything is just vague. Until Francis shows verified proof of his earnings and we see his proposed contract to sign with UFC to make a accurate judgement then this is all hearsay.
Luke knows this, too. He also knows that the kids will eat up his anti UFC propaganda and generate a bunch of traffic to his video.
No need to play clips in fast forward, we got time for this 👍🏼
Maybe if the add all that Reebok money?
This is an obvious lie from Dana, but it's not surprising that he tried to sell this bs. He'll say anything in front of a mic to make himself look like he's always correct & everyone else is wrong. Dana might be the biggest narcissist on the planet, Dana's own response admits that the Saudi's are paying ridiculous amounts for fights... it's classic Dana double-talk
Dana is as truthful as Chael Sonnon. You can't make this shit up. hahahahahaha
i think Tom Aspinal would absolutely destroy Francis.
I can't stand Dana White.
Loool what is this headline
Dana claimed this..
One of the main reasons Francis left the UFC was its restrictive nature. Hopefully pfl provides the flexibility he wants with the option of boxing while still upholding and honoring contractual agreements. The issue is not so much about the amount one makes, but the rules of engagement.
Video summarizer for Donks:
No, Francis would not have made as much in the UFC.
Luke if you add a Polarizer Filter on that camera you might remove the reflections of your glasses thus not showing those blue screens. I would give it a go! Keep up the good work!
For one Francis did not re sign and turned down 7 million he could have made for fights as champ. This was publicly said by Francis and Dana. He made 10 million to fight Tyson. 20 for Joshua. Honestly he probably could have made that if he got Jon jones fight or was active and defending but would certainly not have been in two fights. Over the amount of time of inactivity he turned down UFC championship level money to go box and chase his dream we all praised him for that and rightly so: we don’t know the exact numbers for one. And for two while this statement is exaggerated I don’t think it’s as hyperbolic as we’re all acting like it is
Even if it is true would they have treated him better? What Francis's situation highlighted was how unfair the UFC treatment can be.
And if he stayed who is to say they wouldn't have done it again. Francis leaving was the best for him
Thanks for the 4500 disclaimers about how the numbers are just estimated
Dana has the same basis for Ngannou making as much money or more in the UFC as he does for Powerslap out performing all of sports on the planet in viewership. Only Dana had "the numbers". He is the only one that knows anything about everything. Such a powerhouse he is.
People forget that a UFC fighter's money is mostly in the PPV sales. Conors purses are only like 2 - 5 million but then after the PPV numbers comes back he gets another 10 million or more.
I remember when dana and jon Jones weren't on good terms, Dana called jon out for asking for Deontay wilder money.
So what is it Dana
Nisick is on tape saying how much Ngannou doing ONE boxing fight changed his trainers lives, never mind his own.
I would guess that Woodley made more money losing 2 fights to Jake than in his entire UFC career.
It’s crazy that people think an mma fighter who was offered 8 million plus ppv to fight the goat create history n secure his legacy as one of if not the best was being ripped off? I’m don’t tune in to peoples careers to see if they’re making tens of millions.
2:00 Dana just pissed because boxing been doing better than MMA for the last two years , look at the cards , look at the matchup , and massive 96,000 stadiums being filled .
Why do you think Dana White wants to get involved in boxing?
Great job, that was an excellent breakdown!
Dana keeps a grudge ....
Your final line could use some help, Luke. "Francis made the right call as to where he'd make the most money AND have the most freedom to make money elsewhere (outside of the PFL), help his fellow fighters with bigger paydays, and to make the biggest general point about bucking the trend of top talent just always sticking with the glamorous but corporate-minded and petty UFC."
Fixed.
Watching Luke is like talking to my CPA
Dana talking absolute lies as usual lol
I think Dana was taking into consideration sanctioning fees and promoter fee (which can be 20% of the purse)
With the alternative means of streaming for free, no PPVs will do insame numbers at present.
Ngannou couldn't even get one fight with Jon Jones. In fact, while Ngannou was fighting, Jon was all crickets. Jon didn't come out of the woodwork until Ngannou started to state that the Gane fight was the last on his contract and that he would not renew.
Imo, frank was just unrealistic.. he was getting 8 mil per fight (highest hw) but wanted cut off ppv (you do when champ), wanted free health benefits & a fighter rep.. umm that's what his manager was supposed to do.. rep the fighter.. & he'd afford his own benefits imo.. plus wanted even more money.
I think a manager got in his head & made him high-demand himself out of a job..
I think Francis in the long run would have had a more respected career within the UFC, boxing is the only fans of fighting, and the PFL?? who cares about that organization. The UFC is a slick well put together gold standard of MMA, and just chasing the money isn't always the smartest overall decision for anyone. Him beating jones would have made him a megastar.
Sponsors will never be huge in the PFL. That would require eyeballs on their product.
Dana is a great liar...actually, he's a bad liar.
I wonder if he even believes the bullshit he spouts anymore
gd saudi trillionaires. so rich they just dont care. throw 100 million around casually
it's not always about the money!
I don't think these 'boxers' make anywhere near the money they claim to make
That Dana White logic doing a lot of work
José Aldo came back to the UFC because the offer he got in boxing was ludicrous.
it seems to me none of us know anything for sure …
also Dana " Francis could make more slap fighting than anywhere else"
Well if Dana White, the fight promoter says so, it must be true.
Dana White and fight promoters aren’t known for lying.
Francis said he made way more boxing on Rampage's Podcast I believe him more.