To me? He was a more sophisticated Banshee. Instead of one scream. His screams were more powerful. I never get why the make Black characters are made so powerful they can't be used fully? Or can be knocked out very easily.
Great video. One day black superheroes will have their day in the sun. Retelling the same stories for the past 40 years is one of the reasons DC comics and Marvel are failing today. Tyroc should have his own comic book series.
Okay so he was basically a reality warping rapper.... and he lives in this Brigadoon like island( DC Comics version of wakanda)..... so why can't he get a cool makeover.... bring back his old original powers... ditch the suit and little white booties. He is basically a black version of Black Bolt
DC comic did that with black super hero's ,give them clueless superhero uniform that was out of this world .But Tyroc had incredible ability back in the 70's should have been better written and a black writer would have made a difference on this character handler correctly.
The game skyrim has the main character, powerful wizards and dragons that uses their voice/ dragon language as powerful magic. Different words have different affects or powers. Its actually not as silly as its sounds, just dc used stupid words to represent his sounds.
I knew about this character. It's a shame that they nerfed him and basically turned his power into a generic sonic scream. I liked his original power set of being able to manipulate reality with his voice. It was a unique take on reality warping and they could have done a lot with that concept. You should do a video on Miranda from (Earth-TRN656). She was in 'X-Men: Worst X-Man Ever', a miniseries about the mutant, Bailey Hoskins who could self detonate, but only one time. She's quite possibly the most powerful character in Marvel
My Older Brother Actually Had This Original Comic. I Was So Lucky My Brother Had So Many Comics That I Was Reading All the Time and Got Hooked on the Genre. Especially the Legion...
I bought and still have the first appearance of this character. I was excited to finally see a Black character in the Legion. They completely dropped the ball with his introduction. An island where all the Black people lived 1000 years in the future? Not a continent but an island. Not well thought out. The characters powers were too broad and Ill defined. The potential was there but the execution was horrible. I always hated the fact that he was ultimately written out of the group and went unused for decades. He coulda been a contender.
After watching your vid, I wish they revamp this character and give him his own miniseries. I would keep the island that he's from and ditch the costume.
I know people have been saying it but I have to say it too; they completely nerfed Tyroc. I had no clue about this with him (i didn't really ready Legion of SH). Aside from the odd 'sounds' his powers were top tier. It gets really annoying when they give black characters these super powers and then can't properly write them/leave them in limbo
First off! There is no F@cking way a black superhero would were that outfit! Second they should have taken a note from Marvel and at least made his back story relevant to his powers.
You know in dc comics sound manipulation if fully mastered can warp the fabric of reality so that would mean his screaming powers are simply a prelude to his true unadaltered power that he has actually mastered in past stories
Troy Stewart aka TYROC Troy Stewart is 6 of DIAMONDS ♦♦♦♦♦♦Happy Birthday to TYROC OF LEGION OF SUPERHEROES Happy Thanksgiving Blessings and HUGS MARANATHA! 👑💜
However DC comics I'd believe it have more black characters more then Marvel? I'd could be wrong about that because In Truth back then American comics entertainment studios publisher company own All the comics ,Novels, magazines with comedy and cartoons. All that come from American comics know to as Actions Comics and Detective Comics, So DC comics publishers was the First company comics out there at the time. Stan Lee followed his uncle, in comics business but Jack Kirby and few others their got and keep things moving forward . Stan Lee got into business because of his uncle.
Gabriel Hughes I think currently Marvel has more Black characters, but I’m not 100% sure. DC has characters they haven’t used in over 15-20 years so who’s to say they still don’t have more black characters
@@AltFactuals Hmm this is Truth. It's just DC are more comfortable or let's be more honest here less racist of wanted to used a black character more then Marvel. Although I'd dont know what the reason X-MEN series and comics came to be because it was a Related towards realistic thing's , like Racist and hate speech and hatred towards others people who are different to others and have different world views how others see in Religious beliefs. Go back on the X-Men world view is of mutants nonetheless it's still about Homosexual, Religious and against Black people and people of colors. BLACK People are at the rate higher because black people at a higher risk.
I actually had this comic ( I was a big Mike Grell fan) and I was really excited about Tyroc and really liked his power but DC didn't use him at all I only remember him appearing in 3 LOSH issues DC didn't believe Black Lives Matters in the 70ies.
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wassup my guy great content as usually. I heard of this character he has the potential to be high on the food chain but they kinda did this character dirty like "sonic screams" like come on now
Have there ever been a write-in suggestion for the to bring Tyrol back. He was in the audience/cover page, for Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel, when they came out with the big Annual Edition.
DC would give him a ridiculous power then consecutively dwarf his abilities..😒 I didn't know much of Tyroc but i think i've heard of him before I'd learned of Jakeem Thunder. great video as always bro💯👏.
He makes a brief appearance in the animated movie Justice League vs The Fatal Five but don't blink! His powers are depicted as sonic Black Canary/Banshee type abilities though.
I actually bought and still own the Bates/Shooter & Grell Legion run which included Tyroc's debut. Even as a child, you could tell that DC hadn't a clue as to what they were doing with the character, from a background and motivation stance. That being said, I always saw his powers as a significantly more powerful version of Banshee (Sean Cassidy) of the X-Men. Both possessed sonic or voice-derived powers they could use for a number of effects. Tyroc's were just more potent. While his story may have been.....irritating, the creative team was successful in creating a new character who was as powerful as some of the strongest Legion members but one who's powerset was not a Superboy clone (Mon-El/Ultra Boy/Dev-Em). I feel they missed a great opportunity by not developing Tyroc better. However, we are seeing today that when a character is created solely to advance a political agenda as opposed to telling a good story, it always fails.
Never liked him, even as a child I knew something was off about his design and powers! It's very telling that Superman was dragging him off in chains on that one cover!
Yo! I was reading it and I find it problematic that he seemed to have had a bunch of trials and tribulations in such a short time since he came into DC
Most, if not all, black characters seem to get the same unique secondary mutation: the ability to enter (but not exit) the phantom zone or limbo. Examples: Prowler, Shola Inkosa (Excalibur), Kasper Kole, Thunderball, & Nightshade. Marvel set up most of these characters in current stories that would have allowed them to be returned and then seemingly said screw it. Most of them should have been featured in the now canceled Agents of Wakanda, but no. It's funny to me that an all or mostly white team gets every chance in the world but a black team (The Crew) takes years to get a second chance. As far as DC goes, if you're not Green Lanternor Cyborg you can forget it. Black Lightning was ignored for years. Once again, great content.
They should rebrand him as Skyrok and give him the same abilities but make it like he has some tech to help him manage his powers like a watch and bring back bloodwynd and put them and Mr terrific in a mini series
This is why we need more black superheros. We need a black superhero that’s gonna standout like goku, Superman, Naruto, and Batman. We need a black superhero like them. 😏✊🏽
Yo I heard tyroc went diamond with his second album lol. Yo fam much respect for trying to do the sounds lol. But on the real he could be a powerhouse like black bolt if used right. Maybe more powerful
The champion 🏆 of dimension-shifting island 🏝️ Marzal,Troy Stewart generated sonic screams that could variously create anti-gravity fields, explosion 💥 teleportation, and other effects! He encountered the Legion of Super-Heroes when his island 🏝️ appeared in their future! Initially suspicious, Stewart joined for a time before returning to his responsibilities on Marzal! Go HUG someone today IF they're been vaccinated and Happy Father's Day and Happy Juneteenth Day! Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕!
I have a curious question .why did you call your channel Alternative factuals. Iam fully aware what the word means. It's defined as something that is false.what dose it mean for you?
Talk about how Marvel's Apocalypse USED to be Black then was slowly changed into a White guy, then into the purple/blue creature he currently is. Marvel was dirty for doing that.
black reality warper? I can't remember his name, but he was a little kid mutant who fought the fantastic four. Think he's dead now, but i remember that he was going to be a member of the New Mutants, but the writers claimed that he was too powerful and that he had the ability to create a more powerful team of his own out of nothing. With that kind of power, how could he fit on a team? I do remember that he appeared in the fantastic four, and not an X-men/Mutant comic. Think that was back in the late 70's, believe it or not.
@@ERASEREPLACEPLACE Willie Evans Jr. I had both his original appearance and his X-Factor issue a while ago. It was a real waste of character, how they killed him off. Very few reality warpers are left alone as is, but it still would've been nice to have one black mainstay. He could've been close friends with Franklin Richards.
@@1KlockWork You're absolutely right. Bet he comes back somehow tho... eventually. With what's going on with the X-men on Krakoa, they could bring him back right now. And he'd be a helluva game-changer.
obviously his costume was not very challenging. the fact that he has endured al this time speaks volumes of his character. the idea was to never have a black hero in dc be as powerful or more then superman and green lantern hal jordan. tyroc is another token in dc still under the auspices of white racist comic book governing.
So Tyroc is the Bustah Rhymez of the LOH. Saying YA YA YA YA YA or WOOHAAA etc. activates his different abilities
Yes he was, he was no joke
To me? He was a more sophisticated Banshee. Instead of one scream. His screams were more powerful. I never get why the make Black characters are made so powerful they can't be used fully? Or can be knocked out very easily.
He was a man of culture
I always say Tyroc's power to alter reality with the power of his voice is a power all Black people have. 👊🏾✊🏾
So he had screaming Reality Powers? That sounds hilarious but also kind of cool.
It’s ridiculous and interesting at the same time
He could have been Black Bolt but Marvel had dibs on the handle
Everything is vibrations
You Know If They Would Have Never Nerfed Him He Could Have Been DC's Answer To Black Bolt
Sound like he was the first black bolt
Great video. One day black superheroes will have their day in the sun. Retelling the same stories for the past 40 years is one of the reasons DC comics and Marvel are failing today. Tyroc should have his own comic book series.
Okay so he was basically a reality warping rapper.... and he lives in this Brigadoon like island( DC Comics version of wakanda)..... so why can't he get a cool makeover.... bring back his old original powers...
ditch the suit and little white booties.
He is basically a black version of Black Bolt
Yeah, the suit back then was a bit too much
I used to buy those comics back then he was pretty cool.
My Older Brother Had Bought This Book...
I have his first appearance if you want it.
Oh shyt, it’s Jim Kelly.
Michael Gallien
Underrated Post....
DC comic did that with black super hero's ,give them clueless superhero uniform that was out of this world .But Tyroc had incredible ability back in the 70's should have been better written and a black writer would have made a difference on this character handler correctly.
Most characters that are black need to be written by black writers
@@AltFactuals Facts!
The game skyrim has the main character, powerful wizards and dragons that uses their voice/ dragon language as powerful magic. Different words have different affects or powers. Its actually not as silly as its sounds, just dc used stupid words to represent his sounds.
I agree, the screaming wasn’t the issue. What they made him say was the problem
Lol my hammer and my words of power 🤣
Tyroc's homeland was like North Sentinel Island in a way.
I knew about this character. It's a shame that they nerfed him and basically turned his power into a generic sonic scream. I liked his original power set of being able to manipulate reality with his voice. It was a unique take on reality warping and they could have done a lot with that concept.
You should do a video on Miranda from (Earth-TRN656). She was in 'X-Men: Worst X-Man Ever', a miniseries about the mutant, Bailey Hoskins who could self detonate, but only one time. She's quite possibly the most powerful character in Marvel
I heard about her, I might do a video about her in the future
My Older Brother Actually Had This Original Comic. I Was So Lucky My Brother Had So Many
Comics That I Was Reading All the Time and Got Hooked on the Genre. Especially the Legion...
Thank you for this video. I didn't know about this character.
His costume is totally ridiculous. I hope they don't make live action appearance of him with that.
They did that on purpose because wtf do that brother got on ?
It's basically the same as Power Girl 😐 only more low-cut and without a cape

I bought and still have the first appearance of this character. I was excited to finally see a Black character in the Legion. They completely dropped the ball with his introduction. An island where all the Black people lived 1000 years in the future? Not a continent but an island. Not well thought out. The characters powers were too broad and Ill defined. The potential was there but the execution was horrible. I always hated the fact that he was ultimately written out of the group and went unused for decades. He coulda been a contender.
After watching your vid, I wish they revamp this character and give him his own miniseries. I would keep the island that he's from and ditch the costume.
I'm glad they mentioned Tyroc, I remember the character and little is said about him
TYROC WAS JUST AWESOME PLEASE TALK ABOUT MON EL AND ULTRA BOY PLEASE
I'm still listening so he was a screaming super pimp😂😂😂 got those Michael Jackson chains on his super suit. I love it😂
That’s what their intentions were, they tried to make his character as ridiculous as possible
@@AltFactuals 😂😂I see. It's funny but not funny always trying to make us look stupid
@@tracylee4451 it’s not funny at all 🤨
Fred the "Hammer" Williamson Played in Super Bowl I
Sound creates light, light makes everything.
Sonoluminescence is the act of energy emitting light
I know people have been saying it but I have to say it too; they completely nerfed Tyroc. I had no clue about this with him (i didn't really ready Legion of SH). Aside from the odd 'sounds' his powers were top tier. It gets really annoying when they give black characters these super powers and then can't properly write them/leave them in limbo
That was dope. I hope they bring him back
First off! There is no F@cking way a black superhero would were that outfit!
Second they should have taken a note from Marvel and at least made his back story relevant to his powers.
Thank you for the education on Tyroc!! Mad Grateful!!
You know in dc comics sound manipulation if fully mastered can warp the fabric of reality so that would mean his screaming powers are simply a prelude to his true unadaltered power that he has actually mastered in past stories
Point
Troy Stewart aka TYROC Troy Stewart is 6 of DIAMONDS ♦♦♦♦♦♦Happy Birthday to TYROC OF LEGION OF SUPERHEROES Happy Thanksgiving Blessings and HUGS MARANATHA! 👑💜
So they downgrade him to a reality screamer. That's so stupid 😂😂.
What else is new Lol
@@AltFactuals oh wow thank you , you bring back memories that I'd almost forgot about this Black character
However DC comics I'd believe it have more black characters more then Marvel? I'd could be wrong about that because In Truth back then American comics entertainment studios publisher company own All the comics ,Novels, magazines with comedy and cartoons. All that come from American comics know to as Actions Comics and Detective Comics, So DC comics publishers was the First company comics out there at the time. Stan Lee followed his uncle, in comics business but Jack Kirby and few others their got and keep things moving forward . Stan Lee got into business because of his uncle.
Gabriel Hughes I think currently Marvel has more Black characters, but I’m not 100% sure. DC has characters they haven’t used in over 15-20 years so who’s to say they still don’t have more black characters
@@AltFactuals Hmm this is Truth. It's just DC are more comfortable or let's be more honest here less racist of wanted to used a black character more then Marvel. Although I'd dont know what the reason X-MEN series and comics came to be because it was a Related towards realistic thing's , like Racist and hate speech and hatred towards others people who are different to others and have different world views how others see in Religious beliefs. Go back on the X-Men world view is of mutants nonetheless it's still about Homosexual, Religious and against Black people and people of colors. BLACK People are at the rate higher because black people at a higher risk.
I am watching the ads you deserve it brother 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
I actually had this comic ( I was a big Mike Grell fan) and I was really excited about Tyroc and really liked his power but DC didn't use him at all I only remember him appearing in 3 LOSH issues DC didn't believe Black Lives Matters in the 70ies.
wassup my guy great content as usually. I heard of this character he has the potential to be high on the food chain but they kinda did this character dirty like "sonic screams" like come on now
He had the potential until he was severely nerfed and retconned later on
Thanks for the history prior to Black Lightning...you know I love Black Lightning 😂❤ oh they treated him like a super pimp smh damn.
No problem ☺️
Have there ever been a write-in suggestion for the to bring Tyrol back. He was in the audience/cover page, for Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel, when they came out with the big Annual Edition.
DC would give him a ridiculous power then consecutively dwarf his abilities..😒
I didn't know much of Tyroc but i think i've heard of him before I'd learned of Jakeem Thunder.
great video as always bro💯👏.
He makes a brief appearance in the animated movie Justice League vs The Fatal Five but don't blink! His powers are depicted as sonic Black Canary/Banshee type abilities though.
ID hate when their downgrade and Depowered a powerful black character figure. Give back his original powers to him.
I agree but flesh it out somewhat.
Also give home back the Jim Kelly afro and add pant legs to his original outfit
@@MrKD1970 lol good one 🤣😂
They can take the costume though
@@z0b0und49 his costume is awesome tho.
I actually bought and still own the Bates/Shooter & Grell Legion run which included Tyroc's debut.
Even as a child, you could tell that DC hadn't a clue as to what they were doing with the character, from a background and motivation stance.
That being said, I always saw his powers as a significantly more powerful version of Banshee (Sean Cassidy) of the X-Men. Both possessed sonic or voice-derived powers they could use for a number of effects. Tyroc's were just more potent.
While his story may have been.....irritating, the creative team was successful in creating a new character who was as powerful as some of the strongest Legion members but one who's powerset was not a Superboy clone (Mon-El/Ultra Boy/Dev-Em).
I feel they missed a great opportunity by not developing Tyroc better. However, we are seeing today that when a character is created solely to advance a political agenda as opposed to telling a good story, it always fails.
Never liked him, even as a child I knew something was off about his design and powers!
It's very telling that Superman was dragging him off in chains on that one cover!
Yo! I was reading it and I find it problematic that he seemed to have had a bunch of trials and tribulations in such a short time since he came into DC
Alternative Factuals He wasn’t a well thought out character
So they made everyone forget about this OP character because he is black...
Wow!
And the fact that he hasn't even been seen in any media before at all
Marvel was a couple of decades ahead of DC.
I hated Tyroc ( im 53) because he was an angry stereotype with no nuance.
Most, if not all, black characters seem to get the same unique secondary mutation: the ability to enter (but not exit) the phantom zone or limbo. Examples: Prowler, Shola Inkosa (Excalibur), Kasper Kole, Thunderball, & Nightshade. Marvel set up most of these characters in current stories that would have allowed them to be returned and then seemingly said screw it. Most of them should have been featured in the now canceled Agents of Wakanda, but no. It's funny to me that an all or mostly white team gets every chance in the world but a black team (The Crew) takes years to get a second chance. As far as DC goes, if you're not Green Lanternor Cyborg you can forget it. Black Lightning was ignored for years. Once again, great content.
They should rebrand him as Skyrok and give him the same abilities but make it like he has some tech to help him manage his powers like a watch and bring back bloodwynd and put them and Mr terrific in a mini series
I hope you get back into doing videos like these fam.
Man, that's Jim Kelly
This is why we need more black superheros. We need a black superhero that’s gonna standout like goku, Superman, Naruto, and Batman. We need a black superhero like them. 😏✊🏽
I own his first appearance comic book.
Just brought his first appearance
Maaannnn... Bruh... WTF Does He Have ON??? LMAOHH!!☝🏼😂😂😂
11 skiped secrets. I almost didn't watch it.
So he has Blackbolts power. D.C. is dry comics. They could have made this guy awesome.
Damn straight he has to wear white gloves!
Yo I heard tyroc went diamond with his second album lol. Yo fam much respect for trying to do the sounds lol. But on the real he could be a powerhouse like black bolt if used right. Maybe more powerful
I'm pretty sure his timeline was wiped out same as saturn girl
The champion 🏆 of dimension-shifting island 🏝️ Marzal,Troy Stewart generated sonic screams that could variously create anti-gravity fields, explosion 💥 teleportation, and other effects! He encountered the Legion of Super-Heroes when his island 🏝️ appeared in their future! Initially suspicious, Stewart joined for a time before returning to his responsibilities on Marzal! Go HUG someone today IF they're been vaccinated and Happy Father's Day and Happy Juneteenth Day! Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕!
oh ok i think i remember him very briefly tho
I have a curious question .why did you call your channel Alternative factuals. Iam fully aware what the word means. It's defined as something that is false.what dose it mean for you?
Can u made a video of Monet from the X-Men?
That's more nerfing than,... Dang, any character I can think of on the spot. Well, at least he can stay black...
At least he can do that, he do is currently
Yep, had an issue with him in it.
Learn something new..thank you for that.its shame he watered down.
He has too much resemblance to Jim Kelly.
I can see it
Michael Gallien ✊🏿
Talk about how Marvel's Apocalypse USED to be Black then was slowly changed into a White guy, then into the purple/blue creature he currently is. Marvel was dirty for doing that.
Thats right they changed him just like all the pharaoh of Kemet
Kemet means Blacks Land🤔
That outfit man. I'm glad comics moved away from that to some degree.
It looks outrageous doesn’t it Lol
I like the costume, he looks fire in it
Facts man, the first suit looked strange on him.
@@fate254 Bruh his suit wasn’t that good in the first comics he was in.
@@fate254 almost fire
That's JIM KELLY
Why does he look like....Jim Kelly
Looks like black beyonder just saying.
I remember Tyroc. I thought he was a cool character. It's just sad that DC doesn't care about black characters.
yeh for real. he has a good concept i like his origin too
Yeah they screwed him over!😥#wontletablackmanbegreat
A black male version of black canary? What? Tyroc ain’t nothing like her. The dude has a lot more versatility with his different screams.
They obviously weakened him
Very well do I remember TYROC Tge Screamer. Rahcist ass shit, but that costume! MegaCringe Disco!
Who is Marvel's?
black reality warper? I can't remember his name, but he was a little kid mutant who fought the fantastic four. Think he's dead now, but i remember that he was going to be a member of the New Mutants, but the writers claimed that he was too powerful and that he had the ability to create a more powerful team of his own out of nothing. With that kind of power, how could he fit on a team? I do remember that he appeared in the fantastic four, and not an X-men/Mutant comic. Think that was back in the late 70's, believe it or not.
@@ERASEREPLACEPLACE Willie Evans Jr. I had both his original appearance and his X-Factor issue a while ago. It was a real waste of character, how they killed him off. Very few reality warpers are left alone as is, but it still would've been nice to have one black mainstay. He could've been close friends with Franklin Richards.
@@1KlockWork You're absolutely right. Bet he comes back somehow tho... eventually. With what's going on with the X-men on Krakoa, they could bring him back right now. And he'd be a helluva game-changer.
Bruh..that outfit 🤦🏾♂️
what is wrong with it
LioSlayer for the part of you which dislikes it
Why??
LioSlayer I’m kind of bored with 90% of superheroes wearing pants
That’s why I like the change here
But respect ur opinion
obviously his costume was not very challenging. the fact that he has endured al this time speaks volumes of his character. the idea was to never have a black hero in dc be as powerful or more then superman and green lantern hal jordan. tyroc is another token in dc still under the auspices of white racist comic book governing.
His outfit was gay
Horrible outfit.
more like amazing outfit.
Don’t even say African American no more. Say American Indians.
They hate that just like they hate putting blacks in comics