ty for this guide devilishdiamond! now i can finally join parties as archer with confidence! i appreciate you showing us all these archer techs! cheers my friend!
I will say though this information can become out of date relatively quickly so when you do get to the point this is useful I would double check to see if anything has changed.
@@milkman7845 all cheats were turned off for recording the video :< the score thingie doesn’t affect the run in any way, better map can do the same thing
It may sound it at first, but this guide is supposed to be covering almost everything. A lot of this stuff isn’t needed and you can always learn a class as you go!
Pretty good guide, just 2 things that are wrong 1. dont use that movement for pre enter 2 - its only consistent with high ping and u might drop ppl over lava 2. red relic needs work
@@ohful for 1, I find it more consistent than the other movement of running round the side then bonzoing, probably because I slow down when I touch lava. For 2, I need to figure out what I’m doing wrong on relic bro istg
technically you can do it with 0mp, the amount of times ive accidentally left my power on sighted and still split consistantly is absurd. It is a huge help though, and i would definitely recommend at the bare minmum 1.4k outside dungeons
One issuee for the terror armor perk to work you need two terror pieces so only boots wont give you the 5 arrows and terror boots (even infernal) probabaly have lower damage than 10 stared necron/ maxor (especialy beacuse maxor gives around the same arrow damage buff as terror)
@@dreechte The boots work perfectly fine for the extra arrows, you can literally see them. Also you can definitely feel the difference in dps without using them.
@@dreechte in dungeons they are still a bit buggy, the arrows are floppy which is why you can’t use them on dragons. But overall they do contribute to more dps against withers
@@devilishdiamond1when do terror boots beat maxor/necron? (Super maxed maxor/necron) Or are the Terror stats completely irrelevant cuz we just need ability (I only have burning 10*)
I only have 1 pair of maxed boots, and 1 pair of like 6-starred maxor, do I turn the 10-star boots into maxor? And if yes, how good should my Necron boots be compared to my Maxor boots?
Honestly the necron boots aren’t as needed as you think. I would keep the maxor boots as you use them for clear and for phases 1-4, necron boots are only used in p5 and they aren’t too much extra damage
@@atrocium Honestly the hard part is getting up to floor 7. Once you can do that consistently as long as you have money cata 50 is essentially free. Keep in mind dungeons are the only thing I particularly enjoy about skyblock so I am biased, but I would give getting into them like a 4/10, including learning routes and such.
About items its not very correct, better to tell people prioritize all damage armor and equipment upgrades over master stars, because master stars arent so important as anything else. I am seeing a lot of nons having flawless gems but 10* armor and equipment, thats so stupid. You also dont need 10* soul eater terminator, why? its soul eater for clear just have decent one and you can clear easly. rag with chim 3 also not required, to start arching, i was spliting on derpy without any chim on rag. So its not a minimum req its more like a maximum gear req. For min i would say perfect gems necron with at least 8* maybe, 10* duplex, 8* se 1.4k+ mp in dungeons, cata 48-49 would be completelly fine if you playing in decent party.
thing is if you are using items like a chim rag, the strength gain from the perfect gems will matter a lot less. I'm not saying it doesnt matter, because it does and it makes a huge difference. I didn't mention it in the video because like with other things such as what talisman power you should be using, i assumed people would be able to figure it out. The gear requirements in the video look like overkill because it covers all your bases. Bad stack? dps makes up for it. Bad debuff? As long as they hit 1 lb and maybe a couple hits of lethality you split. The SE term is entirely for clear like you said, and it does still help more than people think in clear, especially in times like derpy. Also keep in mind this guide is intended for people just starting archer, so they wont be in the best of parties the significant majority of the time.
@@oliveranthonisen3593 everything shown in the video is entirely possible legit, you don’t need any. That being said, the mods I use are Odin client (GitHub) Funny Map Extras (either purchased or get people to send to you) Ambient Addons (GitHub) Bxsy Addons (discord) Stonk Delay (GitHub) Cyan Auto4 (discord) Cyan Autoterms (discord)
“10 star armor” “dont play arch untill c50” Then how tf did the first ever parties get 5th master star and c50 before even touching m7???? You expect players to get c50 with m6 and THEN after you have literally no reason to even play dungeons anymore go m7??? Do you think the first parties only did m6 untill c50 and magically got their 5th master star from an admin or what? (from a person with c43 and has only 1 term, 1 gdrag, no edrag but has 10 star gear and can arch m7)
@@NinjaB-cj9us this guide is aimed at people who have never played the class before so it covers all bases. The meta has clearly shifted since m7 came out, I was playing it when it came out. I never said go play m6 as arch until cata 50, go play m7 by all means just not as arch. Your runs will be much higher quality the more experienced you are clearly. If you can arch at c43 and still split consistently at low powers by all means play arch! I’m not stopping you. Believe it or not people play dungeons past cata 50, I’m cata 61 and I’m still not top 300 in cata exp.
@@devilishdiamond1 okay but then how did players beat m7 when it released? There was no cata 50 arch / mage / bers… they either beat it by only having healers and tanks in the party or just played arch under c50 and I think the second is more likely. If they were fine then why can’t the players play arch under c50 today? Also if “10 star gear minimum” to play m7 then what is an ironman supposed to do when 5th star is only obtainable from m7? Sit onnan admin’s island and beg for a 5th star for months untill he finally decides to give it to him? 💀 (if he even does and not just ignore add)
@@NinjaB-cj9us were the players back then doing the same things as we are doing now? were they splitting or even skipping? no they waited for red to cycle all the way round. the 10 star gear req is purely for damage not for ehp. go play either tank or healer if you dont have the requirements. Like i said, these requirements arent for someone who knows what they are doing, they are for someone who has no clue. It covers all bases and ensures they can do it even if they fk up. If you can do it then so what why are you arguing with me? I admitted as much in my last comment lol.
@@devilishdiamond1 cata 43-45 parties does not skip or split. Not everyone will play m7 the same way as a cata 50 but it doesnt mean they can’t play. Skipping drags is not even an intended feature anyways. Some players (like me) are forced to play arch because they are horrible at pd and no 10 star goldor but they has an almost max arch gear from m6 and they are pretty good at arching. Its not arguing but you are like the 30th player that says “no dps class untill c50”
@@NinjaB-cj9us if you expect runs that are even reaching a resemblance of below 6 minutes then you kinda need to be constantly skipping at the very least. If you are not skipping any drags then your exp rates will be better in m6, same as they were a couple years ago. Arching in other floors is very different to arching in m7, and for other floors “having archer gear” is just having the gear for every other class. Also I’ve seen people necron tank fine at c42, you do not need goldor, you are just not good at tank. As for pre dev, go practice it! It’s not hard
@@NecronIsGood It,s how mage preenters 4 for people to leap to, they go from their terminal in 3.2, mine into the core where the goldor fight is, and mine out into 3.4 as 3.3 is completed for people to leap to.
Honestly in party finder I don't see the bers doing lever that often. If I ever do 5 3 the lever is generally the last thing done, so i generally do 5 lever blow up gate. If im ever in a party with a bers who knows to do the lever I will in the future. Thanks for the criticism :)
yo no way devilishdiamond upload (thats so cool)
TEAM SPIRIT BOW GOT DESTROYED IN A NERF DEATH BOW NOW BESTEST HF
Devil it's me goshy
Can u add me it's angelos6
@@aggelosstasinopoulos2389 yoooooooo long time no see
@@devilishdiamond1 can u add me it's angelos6
@@devilishdiamond1 add me
ty for this guide devilishdiamond! now i can finally join parties as archer with confidence! i appreciate you showing us all these archer techs! cheers my friend!
Top tier editing fr, now I can arch better then GingerSnipes
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omg this is such a great guide ill be sure to impliment this!! (me a cata 29 who can barely do f7)
@@VirtualStepdad you got this bro I believe in you :)
@@devilishdiamond1 thanks king 😎🤝😎
OMG YES NOW I CAN FINALLY ARCH
After ur done playing Elden ring
This was real good i cant use it yet but saved it
Thank you :)
I will say though this information can become out of date relatively quickly so when you do get to the point this is useful I would double check to see if anything has changed.
@devilishdiamond1 yeah gessed that but good for a base line
I love how you clearly avoid cheating and then at the end of the video your run info is from fm
@@milkman7845 all cheats were turned off for recording the video :< the score thingie doesn’t affect the run in any way, better map can do the same thing
@@devilishdiamond1 i know but in essence fm is a cheat but like icl who even cares nowadays
@@devilishdiamond1 you forgot bigger levers 🥺
@@ahsald I’m aware I also forgot fuck diorite
Which arrow should i use ?
Omg no way hi besti boo such a pro video!!!
!! awesome guide rahhh
(i wonder who that healer is im sure shes very not cool)
@@lycoros nah she’s not I prefer lycoros I’m ngl
omg I have a gif of you talking about map
@@oMacom I’d use it but I’m unsure about detectability
@@devilishdiamond1 😭😭
@@oMacom :sob:
i am a c51 arch and the amount of stuff i didnt see in this video makes me want to spend a day REALLY upping my skill
this comment is confusing me
@@devilishdiamond1 "im c51 i learned something new", translated it for you
also molten neck is worth then fragged 10* the one bone, I calculated, just put speed tunings
This comment is confusing me
As a casual m6 healer I'm overwhelmed
It may sound it at first, but this guide is supposed to be covering almost everything. A lot of this stuff isn’t needed and you can always learn a class as you go!
Pretty good guide, just 2 things that are wrong
1. dont use that movement for pre enter 2 - its only consistent with high ping and u might drop ppl over lava
2. red relic needs work
@@ohful for 1, I find it more consistent than the other movement of running round the side then bonzoing, probably because I slow down when I touch lava. For 2, I need to figure out what I’m doing wrong on relic bro istg
@@devilishdiamond1 just stop being a snail
@@velqt I am not a snail the snail will never catch me
Is 1500+ mp necessary to arch, or is it just so that you get the most efficient runs.
technically you can do it with 0mp, the amount of times ive accidentally left my power on sighted and still split consistantly is absurd. It is a huge help though, and i would definitely recommend at the bare minmum 1.4k outside dungeons
One issuee for the terror armor perk to work you need two terror pieces so only boots wont give you the 5 arrows and terror boots (even infernal) probabaly have lower damage than 10 stared necron/ maxor (especialy beacuse maxor gives around the same arrow damage buff as terror)
@@dreechte The boots work perfectly fine for the extra arrows, you can literally see them. Also you can definitely feel the difference in dps without using them.
@@devilishdiamond1i used Terror a while ago and i didnt get Terror stacks or my 5th Arrow, idk about Dungeons but on Crimson Isle It didnt Work
@@dreechte in dungeons they are still a bit buggy, the arrows are floppy which is why you can’t use them on dragons. But overall they do contribute to more dps against withers
@@devilishdiamond1 alright good to Know, i mean im Not Archer but still nice Video xD
@@devilishdiamond1when do terror boots beat maxor/necron? (Super maxed maxor/necron)
Or are the Terror stats completely irrelevant cuz we just need ability (I only have burning 10*)
nice video!
thank you :)
I only have 1 pair of maxed boots, and 1 pair of like 6-starred maxor, do I turn the 10-star boots into maxor? And if yes, how good should my Necron boots be compared to my Maxor boots?
Honestly the necron boots aren’t as needed as you think. I would keep the maxor boots as you use them for clear and for phases 1-4, necron boots are only used in p5 and they aren’t too much extra damage
what mod do you use for slot binding
not enough updates
@@devilishdiamond1 why does it look like that (in a good way)
@@connorfrr just a texture pack overlay :p
@@devilishdiamond1 leak it
my only question is what mod has that little square bouncing around on your screen
I love /ct import adhd
azuredclient mentioned
but not using azuredclient's drag prio
today i learned i am stupid, i didnt know it had one gg chat
Nice mob highlight. What mod is that?
@@rayman407 The highlight used is technically ambient addons, although skytils has the one I would recommend as ambient is a cheat
@@devilishdiamond1 odin also has one
@@odthekingYT honestly i didnt even notice
How does your spirit leap look like that what mod is it?
@@DTVEpic Odin leap menu, another leap menu you can use is bettermap’s
skeleton master cp?
deals a fraction of a percentage less damage than a necron chestplate when maxed (50/50 m7 quality) and saves you from needing to buy arrows
Wow that is so much effort no thanks
honestly archer is the second easiest class to play for m7, so if you think this is bad...
Should I swap to remedies to rag for drags 3 and 4 instead of just ragging on 5?
@@willseed1832 your ragnarock axe will be on cooldown for 3, I’m not sure about 4. Ideally yes though because rag can last for almost 2 dragons.
@@devilishdiamond1 if u pop on 2nd dialogue it comes off cooldown about 1-2 seconds before 3 begins spawning
what kinda tunings do you use
@@cole5274 I use 55 speed tunings with the rest in crit chance
how hard is it to get into dungeons from square 1?
@@atrocium Honestly the hard part is getting up to floor 7. Once you can do that consistently as long as you have money cata 50 is essentially free. Keep in mind dungeons are the only thing I particularly enjoy about skyblock so I am biased, but I would give getting into them like a 4/10, including learning routes and such.
Devilishdiamond you are only known cus of jerry rune not to be rude you are ofc still good at the gamw
Thanks buddy 👍
5:08 does soul esoward work here, or is it bugged for this too
only bonzo mask and phoenix work here im afraid
Soul is Overall bugged As far As i Know. The immortality doesnt Work at all xD Its another cool Item Idea that isnt working
No one gona talk about him puting necron and necron’s boots in the list
@@flammestaven7158 wha
Leggings and chest plate are on the first slide with boots on the second slide
Look 2nd sslide closely, necrons boots and necron boots @@devilishdiamond1
@@devilishdiamond1second slide has it twich. Item 1 and 4
I might be the goated mage (I have done 30 mage runs total)
honestly better than a significant majority of party finder already
What is that prism 16x edit?
its an overlay, just the dark overlay of packshq.com/
About items its not very correct, better to tell people prioritize all damage armor and equipment upgrades over master stars, because master stars arent so important as anything else. I am seeing a lot of nons having flawless gems but 10* armor and equipment, thats so stupid. You also dont need 10* soul eater terminator, why? its soul eater for clear just have decent one and you can clear easly. rag with chim 3 also not required, to start arching, i was spliting on derpy without any chim on rag.
So its not a minimum req its more like a maximum gear req.
For min i would say perfect gems necron with at least 8* maybe, 10* duplex, 8* se 1.4k+ mp in dungeons, cata 48-49 would be completelly fine if you playing in decent party.
thing is if you are using items like a chim rag, the strength gain from the perfect gems will matter a lot less. I'm not saying it doesnt matter, because it does and it makes a huge difference. I didn't mention it in the video because like with other things such as what talisman power you should be using, i assumed people would be able to figure it out. The gear requirements in the video look like overkill because it covers all your bases. Bad stack? dps makes up for it. Bad debuff? As long as they hit 1 lb and maybe a couple hits of lethality you split. The SE term is entirely for clear like you said, and it does still help more than people think in clear, especially in times like derpy. Also keep in mind this guide is intended for people just starting archer, so they wont be in the best of parties the significant majority of the time.
what mod u using at 5:39 ?
what do you mean?
expanded levers
Oh that one is in Odin client
Same bro
what mod has big lever hitbox?
that is odin client, it is considered a cheat unfortunately
@@devilishdiamond1whats it called in odin
@@mxstypvp I believe it’s under secret hitboxes
Tyty@@devilishdiamond1
what mods did you use that's not legit and how do i find them?
@@oliveranthonisen3593 everything shown in the video is entirely possible legit, you don’t need any.
That being said, the mods I use are
Odin client (GitHub)
Funny Map Extras (either purchased or get people to send to you)
Ambient Addons (GitHub)
Bxsy Addons (discord)
Stonk Delay (GitHub)
Cyan Auto4 (discord)
Cyan Autoterms (discord)
@@devilishdiamond1 could you maybe send the discord for bxsy and cyan? i can't find them
@@devilishdiamond1 could you link the discord for bxsy and cyan?
Texture pack?
@@user-ui5bm5xy6g prism 16x by looshy
Is Odin not bannable? I thought it was
@@Karma_vanquished there’s two versions of Odin, one is a cheat, the other is legit
@@devilishdiamond1 oh
“10 star armor” “dont play arch untill c50” Then how tf did the first ever parties get 5th master star and c50 before even touching m7???? You expect players to get c50 with m6 and THEN after you have literally no reason to even play dungeons anymore go m7??? Do you think the first parties only did m6 untill c50 and magically got their 5th master star from an admin or what? (from a person with c43 and has only 1 term, 1 gdrag, no edrag but has 10 star gear and can arch m7)
@@NinjaB-cj9us this guide is aimed at people who have never played the class before so it covers all bases. The meta has clearly shifted since m7 came out, I was playing it when it came out. I never said go play m6 as arch until cata 50, go play m7 by all means just not as arch. Your runs will be much higher quality the more experienced you are clearly. If you can arch at c43 and still split consistently at low powers by all means play arch! I’m not stopping you. Believe it or not people play dungeons past cata 50, I’m cata 61 and I’m still not top 300 in cata exp.
@@devilishdiamond1 okay but then how did players beat m7 when it released? There was no cata 50 arch / mage / bers… they either beat it by only having healers and tanks in the party or just played arch under c50 and I think the second is more likely. If they were fine then why can’t the players play arch under c50 today? Also if “10 star gear minimum” to play m7 then what is an ironman supposed to do when 5th star is only obtainable from m7? Sit onnan admin’s island and beg for a 5th star for months untill he finally decides to give it to him? 💀 (if he even does and not just ignore add)
@@NinjaB-cj9us were the players back then doing the same things as we are doing now? were they splitting or even skipping? no they waited for red to cycle all the way round. the 10 star gear req is purely for damage not for ehp. go play either tank or healer if you dont have the requirements. Like i said, these requirements arent for someone who knows what they are doing, they are for someone who has no clue. It covers all bases and ensures they can do it even if they fk up. If you can do it then so what why are you arguing with me? I admitted as much in my last comment lol.
@@devilishdiamond1 cata 43-45 parties does not skip or split. Not everyone will play m7 the same way as a cata 50 but it doesnt mean they can’t play. Skipping drags is not even an intended feature anyways. Some players (like me) are forced to play arch because they are horrible at pd and no 10 star goldor but they has an almost max arch gear from m6 and they are pretty good at arching. Its not arguing but you are like the 30th player that says “no dps class untill c50”
@@NinjaB-cj9us if you expect runs that are even reaching a resemblance of below 6 minutes then you kinda need to be constantly skipping at the very least. If you are not skipping any drags then your exp rates will be better in m6, same as they were a couple years ago. Arching in other floors is very different to arching in m7, and for other floors “having archer gear” is just having the gear for every other class. Also I’ve seen people necron tank fine at c42, you do not need goldor, you are just not good at tank. As for pre dev, go practice it! It’s not hard
No way terror boots is meta
First non degrading comment from epicslender towards devilishdiamond
What the fuck is a mage doing a slingshot
@@NecronIsGood It,s how mage preenters 4 for people to leap to, they go from their terminal in 3.2, mine into the core where the goldor fight is, and mine out into 3.4 as 3.3 is completed for people to leap to.
5:21 Always 5 3 instead of 5 lever if your party isnt hard cheating
Honestly in party finder I don't see the bers doing lever that often. If I ever do 5 3 the lever is generally the last thing done, so i generally do 5 lever blow up gate.
If im ever in a party with a bers who knows to do the lever I will in the future. Thanks for the criticism :)
@@devilishdiamond1 Just tell the bers to do 4 lever cuz 4 3 is so much slower than 5 3
@@yeetsy7888 very true
@@devilishdiamond1 yes it all makes sense certainly
why am i 13 seconds in i have more than all those items
i wasnt bullying you for not having those items i was saying i was sounding like you :