Confessions of an Audiophile: John DeVore defines audiophile and goes through gear he's had and why
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- What is an Audiophile? Why people are afraid of the label, different types of audiophiles, and what sort of audiophile is John?
And an epic journey through the gear he's owned and why. Favorites. And an invite to participate.
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Tell me if you can relate. Growing up, our family stereo system was far from hifi...but once in a while, I would go to a friend's house whose dad happened to have a nice system. Sometimes it was a relative's house. These may not have been super high end systems but I remember being blown away and being envious of the sound they could get in the living room. I had this experience several times in different places and I sought a way to get this or something better for our living room. I was barely a teen but this is how it started....Seeing those Realistic speakers in this video gave me goosebumps
You started out just right. You have to like gear as well as music! I love music but I love my gear too. A lot. So much so, that I have a terrible time selling it, even though I’m done with it. A couple of examples; I can’t part with my vintage Pioneer SX-1050. I justify keeping it as a backup, in case something goes wrong with either of my regular amplifiers. Or my Bang & Olufsen Beogram 4004 Turntable. A beauty! Cost me a fortune! It got obsoleted by my purchase of a Rega RP40 Anniversary Turntable, which I’m not convinced sounds better. One more example: my Musical Fidelity A3cr Preamp. I really can’t find a single reason to justify keeping it, but I find it difficult to part with.
I haven’t talked about my music, but I LOVE my music too. I’m an opera lover primarily and I love classical music almost as much, I also sprinkle in some jazz, some folk, some country, some Flamenco, some New Age, some ethnic. I stream with Roon and can play Roon in all four of my stereo systems in the house. I’m in music heaven with my favorite speakers, Quad ESL-63s and Audiomat Prelude Reference MKII ktube amp.
Our family system was about equivalent to what my friend's families had. I didn't meet another audiophile until first year in college, and their system was WAY beyond what I had: with Magnapan, NAD and Carver, set up in a tiny dorm room!
I remember being blown away by those Bose acousticmass ...which would very much be blasphemy as an audiophile
Early revelation for me was hearing my own band (we recorded at 14) in a studio, final mix straight from tape, 16 track through JBL L100 on the console kicking me in the face, but perfect clarity.
Why the Optimus 10s instead of the Mach I?
I guess I'm an "audiophile" -- just a very skeptical one. My only objective is to get the best sound at a budget I can afford; Powerful, clean amp .. Great, revealing speakers. Any old clean DAC + a disk full of flac and I'm GTG. The only gear I have a real fetish for is music production/pro audio gear.
If I make a killing in the music industry, I'm definitely buying some Devore speakers. They're the best looking cabs I've ever seen. Until then, I'm driving Kefs and Maggies all day..
When I was about 15 in the mid-50’s (yes, I’m old!), I removed the speaker from my table radio and started playing around with different configurations of boxes, cardboard at that! I found it interesting how much one could change the sound with even small changes to the “box.” At that time, I thought the speaker was the most important part of a radio and I continued to believe that when it came to component sound systems. I am not an audiophile although had I continued on that path, I might have become one. I find it interesting to hear people like John speak on the topic.
That Little River Band record, "Sleeper Catcher," is a phenomenal LP that can be found for very cheap in good shape. The original Wally cut is the one to look for, and it's a great sounding LP.
True!
I just happened to hear this album today, the track Reminiscing. Good stuff.
I love this segment John. This is what separates us from casual listeners is the love of sourcing, tinkering with and the set up of the gear that provide us the high quality of music we chase. Every inch of the chain we scrutinize from gear to music to obtain the best listening experience possible. And when you try to explain these things to the normal Joe and they look at you with disinterest or the blank stare, we know as audiophiles were in a hobby that most dont understand or care to
I started in about 81 and in 84 I went in the Army and wen to Germany 85-86 and again in 89-92 and built a system that I still have. In 22 I upgraded to a McIntosh amp, preamp, and universal BR, SACD player and built a set of Open baffle speakers.
I want good quality gear that sounds really good, but the gear also has to look good also. I lean more towards the stuff from the seventies and eighties In my opinion gear was made to last in those days
My 200 watt Phase Linear amp bought in 78 lasted all the way until 94, before it required a capacitor refresh. I don't think many build in that kind of quality anymore.
I had a 700 series 2 regret selling
@@nic2098 Now THAT was a beast. Many consider PL as "boutique" gear, but the quality was undeniable. I miss my system too, except when I have to move...then not so much. ;-)
Tougher it out. Man oh man this video was awesome. Time just flew with me watching this. Sadly I have none of this gear but just made me think of all the gear I’ve used through the years and I couldn’t begin to say what they all were. Sad. I was one of the audiophiles that was more of the gear head.
Man i feel ahead of my time by 10th grade i have complete separates....b&w DM220's..... Worth every table i had to bus for them...
Not ashamed to say I'm into the gear MORE than the music. I love putting together systems more than I like listening to the music... it's what I've done all my life. I used to own a P.A. company. The listening part comes from my studio engineering side. 70% gear/ 25% music. I own 7 systems of which my music loving wife is the main beneficiary. We joke we need to get a bigger house with more rooms... about twice a year, I get lost in the music for hours.
No shame in that whatsoever. Cheers!
I have Kyocera CD player and cassette deck. I don't have either hooked up but may hook up the cassette and send you a picture.
Again, very interesting and I can relate to that because I have also a similar background like you. Coincidence? Thanks for this video. 👍
Thanks for watching.
Great video! You have had a great journey with your equipment. I appreciated that you explained what made you acquire certain pieces of audio equipment. I have had a similar journey except I do not make speakers work in commercial real estate. I have owned a lot of equipment over the years. Buying and selling all kinds of audio equipment as a side hustle gave me the opportunity to understand what I am hearing and how certain equipment perform. If I have learned anything with audio is that simple is best as a practice. When an audio system becomes too complicated it is the perfect invitation to screw things up.
My first system was a Marantz 2216b my sister gave me when she moved out along with a pair of no-name speakers and a simple Sansui turntable. I bought an Akai tape deck from a friend for $20. I wanted my "own" receiver so I bought a Pioneer SX-40 floor model from Sun TV and rode home carrying it on my shoulder on my bike.
Great video. And a GREAT start with those Optimus 10s! That was my first speaker as well. Radio shack literally had them on BOGO, so I begged my mom to buy them for me. I’m grateful to this day
Keep it coming, JD! Love this stuff!!!! ☺️👍
During my career in the US Army, I made it a point to do two tours in Germany in the seventies. Not for the travel or scenery, not for the history, but because the cost of (then) vintage hifi stereo components was a third or less of what I would have paid in the US. I built my dream system. Full rack Phase Linear, amp, preamp and tuner. I did have a Pioneer P3A turntable and a Teac A-150 tape deck. I rounded that system out with a DBX noise reduction unit. That almost completely eliminated the dreaded tape hiss.
My speakers stayed the same the whole time. Pioneer HPM 100s on the A side and HPM 60s on the back side. I just had to be careful not to over drive them with that 200 watt Phase Linear.
I had that system all the way to 1994, when one of my clients saw my system and offered me an obscene amount of money for it. He was a vintage stereo collector. Because I was going to have to do a full capacitor upgrade soon, I agreed to sell it. At times, I kick myself in the ass for selling it, but it worked out. I've ended up moving a number of times since then, and I am glad I didn't have to lug all that stuff around.
Today, I settle for a premium headphone and Dac/amp and I'm just as happy with it. Wow, has the technology changed.
I was in the Air Force at travis AFB from 1966 to 68 .the C141s landed there daily coming back from cambodia and vietnam . the planes were often partially filled with stereo gear , rattan furniture and all manner of stuff . there was no duty or inspections so the price paid in those countries was the end price .
Great job. Like your take on music and gear. I work in travel and live on a tiny island so buy vinyl when I go overseas and look at gear as well so always nice to hear about it all.
I love the gear since I was 12 now I’m 57 and still love it
I'm definitely into the equipment as much as the music, and have no problem stating so.
Reminiscing.....Great song by Little River Band.
Cheers from Australia.
very much a late bloomer here. i come from live sound, recording studios and touring bands. i began my audiophile journey a few years ago. i didnt call myself anb audiophile at first because i just didnt know enough to be one. i would say, "im not an audiophile, but ..." i recall that audiophile is a term that some audiophiles dont wanna cop to. folks i spoke to would joke about it, but, as an aspiring audiophile and audiophile-curious person, i hadnt acquired the experience and understanding of hifi to fit the label. i know enough now, so i can call myself an audiophile now.
some audiophiles are more gearheads than others. im a big gearhead. luv it. carried that over thru assembling, reassembling and upgrading a recording studio. being a long time record collector didnt hurt, neither.
Got my first pair of speakers in 1969, and it was either Bose or JBL. Bought the JBL's and I thought they were great. Today, I probably couldn't listen to either one without getting ear bleed.
Wow. Same generation. Same age. Same neighborhood. Same journey.
I worked from 8th grade on a farm, in grocery stores, and painted houses, to buy my first system in 10th grade. Spent hours at Tech Hifi and Tweeter, Etc.
Advent 1 speakers
SAE Two Receiver
Akai cassette player
Dual turntable.
Maybe someday I'll have some of your speakers.
In order
Sound Design consol.
Kenwood tuner ,integrated Amp
Pioneer turntable
ESS speakers
Onkyo integrated Amp
Akia tape deck
OHM speakers
B O turntable
Nakamichi Reciever
Nakamichi tape deck
Magnapans
Golden Tube Amp, pre Amp
Marantz CD DVD
Infinity speakers
Yamaha Reciever
Just remembered
Hafler Amp
NAD Amp
Don't even get me started on the car stereo, I worked at a stereo store for 11 years installing them.
Not to brag.
Great story of your journey!! I especially love that you had pics of past setups and the gear. It is easy to forget those massive small screen TVs and it really wasn't that long ago. Really amazing.
Your shirt is the perfect embodiment of this conversation. Music nuts in one circle, the gearheads in the other and in the middle are the audiophile set. It had me reminiscing about my own setups over the years.
Thank you for sharing!!
I'm not embarrassed, the wife is, however, annoyed.
I have a 2 channel and 5.1 in one room, 2 channel in the lounge
And 2 channel 4 Hafler in the games room. Along with a few radio grams and the shed has tape amps and an equaliser.
If an audiophile wants to hear instruments accurately reproduced they should learn an instrument lol😂. It would be a lot cheaper. Great video bud.
I'd like your theory and I'd like to add a third car category. People who spend time on TH-cam listening to exspurts instead of listening to music on their systems what category would you say they fall under?
You forgot the third type of audio file. That is the person that likes good quality gear does not fall for all the hype and snake oil in the industry so we are talking people that I’ve got a sensible priced hi-fi system probably only goes up to double figures in the thousands, so 10,000 maybe or less in most cases a lot less And those people make up the bulk of what most people would class as an audio file the people you see on TH-cam with £100,000 stereos or dollars which ever country you’re in an even more expensive systems. The majority of audiophiles normal people and I’m sorry if that upsets people, but I will use that word. Normal people laugh at the upper elite which think they are the only people which know how Music should be heard and they dream of getting the ultimate realistic reproduction of the original artist which is impossible because by the time you have got the song to listen to, it has been mixed by the recording artist mustard before release. All of these things, I’ve altered the sound of what you would’ve heard in the recording studio, live with your own ears, so that is a dream which the elite few chase to their own mental well-being or lack of in the year 2022. You can get a very good and I mean very very good hi-fi system for sensible down-to-earth normal money the fact that the elite few think that they only know how it has to be done by buying speaker cables which cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars per metre and interconnects of similar monetary value and the snake oil goes on the loads of things which normal people laugh at and when do you hear a very top end elite top end system to most people who enjoy music they always sound thin, tinny lacking in base mid range and I think that is why a lot of so-called top end, elite audio files like classical jazz and for some reason, female vocals were if you wish to play normal contemporary every day music like Metallica Guns N’ Roses Iron Maiden INXS Depeche Mode a normal every day groups and so on the stereo systems at the top end of the range with sound, terrible because they are tailored for just a niche market of female vocals of jazz and classical
Some Hi Fi these days are much better by a street Mile, just bought a Eversolo Master edition, a don't use it for streaming but as a preamp the sound is outstanding to my ears anyhow.
The VT-100 you had in your system was mine. I can't say for sure, but the Counterpoint preamp was probably mine, as well.
highest quality music in my opinion is when your making your own music playing back thru the daw on any decent monitors, I've wasted too much of my life listening to music when I always knew there was higher energy in making music, when you make music its like nothing else, audiophile is not cool after you can't afford it any more trust me just make your own.
I've ALWAYS been more into gear than music.
hmmm - - back in the early 80's I purchased my first set of maggies in Harvard Square - the MGIIIa's - from Goodwins - they still carry on but now reside in Watertown (MA). Those speakers went through various upgrades and ultimately were pinned floor to ceiling sans their stands, frames and "socks" - they provided a couple of decades of enjoyment - actually, although no longer in use, they're still kicking around my house somewhere.
@DevoreFidelity0 get off this channel, go find another sucker cause ya didn't find one here
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Cool journey man. I remember my first love for HI FI. It was a set of Paradigm Monitor 6s with a Technics AVR, and I have never seen speakers pump that much to this day. The throw they had was insane with that Technics AVR. We would crank Pantera, Rage against the Machine and some others and the sound they put out was amazing. Was soon after I bought car and home audio until I hit my masterpieces at around 25. Haven't upgraded much since, but here and there I bought a new head unit, DAC to play around but I honestly see no reason to "upgrade". I still think my setups are better then anything that can be purchased to this day. Example, my car runs two BASH SE3 amps for old Rockford Fosgate components and a Sony Mobile ES pushing a JL subwoofer. I remember blowing my Sony ES and bought a highly touted NVX 1000.1 and in comparison it sucked. I had someone repair the Sony and still to this day rock it.
ADCOM!
I'm interested to know what are the beautiful wooden equipment racks you using?
Made in Brooklyn!
www.boxfurnitureco.com
@@DeVOREFIDELITY Thanks！Will check it out!
I watched this when it first came out and didn't even notice the ELEH shirt! My absolute favorite modern musician!
I love music but I really love the gear. I remember going to hifi stores in the 70's as a kid and being fascinated by the the beautiful receivers with the panel sides....that bug is still with me 40 years later. Besides sounding great...my hifi MUST look great.
Yes!
I felt the same. Fact is, I sold my perfectly good Pioneer system and upgraded to Phase Linear. When I head that PL was going to discontinue consumer components, I volunteered for another tour in Europe to take advantage of the dirt-cheap prices of stereo stuff in the PX systems. I would sit in the dark, the only light coming from that shimmering silver system and just get lost in the experience of sight and sound.
Oh man dude you have me going down memory lane! Your O/96's are almost certainly in the running for my endgame speakers.
Isn’t PA systems as close as possible, you know because PA systems are used in live performance??
PA systems are a different animal but I have a love for them too. I almost think that audiophiles should be open minded about considering a good PA speaker for a living for they shear ability to produce dynamics and clarity with little effort. This is I think is part of the allure of Klipsch speakers...
I'm here for the tortoiseshell cat #1 and audio talk #2 :)
Does not always about what you like,but what you can afford
ADittional COMpinsation
Gearhead/music lover for over 50 years. Very interesting, my story similar. My father worked for Philips at a higher level from '77-'99 seen a lot of cool things like the CD before they ever came out. My friends thought it was crazy talk!
My very first turntable was a Phillips and I loved it.
What a STRANGE video. So many jump cuts!!
what tonearm is the koetsu mounted on in the start of the video?
Do you listen to old gear for serious listening? Ty David
All that beautiful gear and a 19" Sony TV
Another great video, John. Nice way to keep the channel fresh. Enjoyed your unique audiophile gear journey. That EMT pre is a show stopper!
Thanks for sharing! Nice to hear you started exactly where most of us start and modestly stepped up your rig over the years, as most of us do!
I really enjoyed the run down memory lane. Impressive.
Heard the Super Nines paired to the LTA UL at the DC show last weekend. I will make those speakers mine some day. Gorgeous pairing.
Thank you!
Do we surround sound lovers qualify as "audiophiles"?
Most of us are feeling left out in the cold.
So where do we fit and who exactly decides what an audiophile is?
There's nothing non-audiophile about multi channel, same rules apply!
regarding to your early hifi stuff, it's remarkable how many components we had in common : Denon, Akai, technics, nakamichi, the same Kyocera and Sony es 💿 players. the also had and still have Meridian 200 components in great condition.
This is so wonderful. I just love your point of view.
I have a question for you if you don’t mind: Does it make sense for someone (me) to get into hifi after his 40’s if you do not understand the technicalities of gear (I have some sort of learning disability in this regard, I just don’t get mechanical stuff), don’t understand the technicalities of music, don’t have great ears, suffer from some hearing loss… Yet I find myself fascinated by this world. The feeling, the emotions you get listening to a good system is just indescribable for me. It is so great.
That is why I am fascinated by someone like you who has such depth and handle on both the technical side and artistic side of things.
I love hi-fi but I don’t know how to approach it with all these limitations. Have you ever come across of people with similar profile? Would love it if you could share few words of wisdom or have any advice to throw my way.
Thanks again for this wonderful channel.
There is no right or wrong way to love music and gear. Yolo, as it were.
Because I feel guilty just sitting around and not being productive… when I take time to listen to music, I want it to be a great experience worth my time. Hence I am an audiophile.
My first system at 14: Infinity SM10 speakers, Aiwa amplifier / preamplifier, Sansui linear tracking turntable, Sony CD player, and Onkyo Cassette deck.
That was detailed.
I am def a gear head. I cant stop lookign at youtubes of gear/reviews. And drove from Texas to Cap Audio Fest to check out 90+ rooms of it. Of course I checked out the set of your Gibbons the one room was playing...fantastic! I find great gear makes nearly ALL music enjoyable. So gear first!!
Hello John, it's interesting to see the gear you had growing up in the US, here in the uk, we had a lot of Japanese gear as well, but also lots of British gear including, makes like wharfedale, mission, celestion, arcam, Cambridge audio, heybrook, spendor, epos, monitors audio, to name a few, I always tried to buy British. Like you I had loads of gear over the years & when I started my audio businessin 2005, that's when I purchased my best system, with a set of PMC EB1 loudspeakers, they were stunning speakers, nice video, I'm always interested in other people gear👍
Thank you!
My first Hi-Fi
Dual 12xx Turntable (with a DL 110)
Some Kenwood Reciver
and Headphones (because we were 3 Kids, so: Headphones)
Sennheiser HD414
My very first Vinyl: Tuckwell/Marriner Mozart Horn Concertos
Sony 555ES
Later I bought Jordanov 120 Speakers and the little NAD Integrated Amp, AKAI GX 95 Tape
and some Porti Walkman style and MD porti
Next step:
BM Backes&Müller BM6 first Gerneration (Wow!!!!!!)
Old Va2 Restek Pre. And Va2 RestekTuner (I have it since 25 yrs) with update
Then newer BM6
Than 2016 BM12, OPPO 105D, Well Tempered from 1990 with a Dynavector RS32, god Tear like!!!!
Primare R15 for the Turntable, Abacus Prepino Preamp, Restek Tuner. This is 90% + of what is possible! In Sound. Every 1% more would be a 10.000-100.000€ investment. Don’t need! And! It fits together very well. I am total into classical, acoustic Music, so nearly perfect match.
BUT
the downside is, that I now can hear the difference between good and bad recordings. And there are many bad! Many, but the good sound like heaven
No sane person would spend thousands on physical media without upgrading the gear they play it on - it may not be to your standards, but they would at least buy a better record player / cd player. That said, I'm from an era where it wasn't unusual to have milk crates full of vinyl and a $300 all-in-one record player but the jump from that to something 'hi-fi' was substantial in Australia. My first car cost me $700 and it was probably the single best investment of my youth - spending that much again on separates (lets say $2100 total) would have put listening to records above everything else in my life. For those who still lived at home in their early 20s, I guess it may have been viable but that's showbiz.
(FWIW, having lived through the era where LRB was on constant rotation on FM radio, no amount of gear would have improved my opinion of their music)
I restore turntables, but I'm too lazy to change records. I am a gear geek, not a gear phool. I spend very little, but have top shelf restored gear by my own hand. Optimus 10 are great value. Akai means "red".
Hi ... thanks for sharing the gear that you've owned and lessons learned! I'm alittle bit new to hi-fi and had the good fortune (I think) of acquiring a fine pair of used Vandersteen 3A Signature speakers, and wanted to get your thoughts on these. Current system config is, "Qobuz stream=>Gustard X16 DAC=>Simaudio Moon I3 amp=>Vandy 3A Sigs". Considering replacing the Moon I3 with a tube-pre with a Bryston 4B3 amp. Thanks for your thoughts.
In the 80's I had a Moscode Super It in my bedroom system (SOTA Sapphire, Sumiko MMT arm, Grado Gold cartridge, Aragon 2002 power amp, Mission 700LE speakers w/ an old M&K subwoofer). I loaned the Super It to a couple of friends, and they were amazed at how good it sounded.
We want our music “ as realistic as possible” just like we want our video in high definition. Tubes are like John Singer Seargent’s paintings , not photorealistic but beautiful. benchmark solid state amp is like photorealistic paintings.
When I was 15 in 1986 my father, bless him, bought me a Fisher rack system. Junk, but I loved it. Why didn’t he take me to Radio Shack?? My whole life would have been different.
I'm 50/50 gear/music, I miss my humble Pioneer cassette deck. Yes, there was something satisfying about that machine.
Hey John, Great stuff man. I too am on the “spectrum” 😊…btw gear and music lover. My first serious system in 1982 was a Yamaha 40 Watt Integrated Amp, a separate Yamaha Tuner, a Bang & Olson Turntable and Boston Acoustic bookshelf speakers. I wanted to get a Nakamichi tape deck but it was over budget. That system took me through the next 10 years. And then I didn’t buy another piece of gear until 2019. That system includes a Hegel H90 integrated amp, Focal Electra 1008BE speakers, Sound Anchor stands, BlueSound Node 2i, Audioquest PowerQuest 3 power conditioner, Cardas Parsec speaker cables, Alpha Silver Coax Cable (RCA) from Douglas Connection and a power cable from Cullen Cable. Next step is adding analog: VPI Scout, Lyra Delos cartridge, Sutherland Insight phono-pre, and a high quality record cleaner. Just out of curiosity, which tube amp would you consider the “best” to pair with the O/93 speakers: Line Magnetic 805IA, Decware Zen Mystery, Tsakiridis Aeolus Ultima or Rogers EHF-100 MK2? ✌🏼🦧
I treat gear like art. I don't have to own it, but I love seeing it in person and possibly hearing it. But I don't think that my excitement about gear that I am never going to buy makes me an audiophile. A gear head yes, and audiophile no.
My system is modest, but it excels at soundstage and imaging in a bad room. What makes me an audiophile is searching for music that was engineered and mastered with great dynamics, good soundstage and imaging, and low distortion. So the recording has to push the equipment, and the equipment has to reveal the recording. Caring about all of that is what makes me an audiophile. So even if you don't chase new equipment, you have to care about sound quality to the extent once you can hear a flaw you want to buy what it takes to correct it. My son lives in the same house, and while he appreciates the sound quality, he does not actually care about chasing sound quality with his own money. He is not an audiophile.
"Audiophile" and record players aren't compatable. CD quality and above is.
Brilliant
Answer this question honestly: If you could hide your gear rack in a different room and thereby marginally improve the sound quality of your system, would you do it?
I love music but I am not a audiophile ,I own fews powerful amp , huge speaker but I never spend big money on cable and wire ,I use equalizer to tune my system to sound I like although some one told it not original ,end of that I still love my system play sound I like
You forget one more type of audiophile: The audiophile who only cares about measurement. I know, for a fact, some people only buy gear if it measures flat across all parameters.
In Spanish you have two words, Audiofilo (self explained) and Melomano, those only interested in the music.
Enjoyed this, John. I started with a Radio Shack set and replaced the speakers with a pair of Advents. Many swaps and changes ensued. While I still have my Adcom GFP-555 in my system, it’s not the same as your old preamp so no photo. Both of my Nakamichi cassette decks died from overuse injuries, but I might have the last one in a box somewhere… ZX-7, I believe. Still rocking my Aragon 4004 that was modified later by the factory. B&W 802’s have been with me for many years and still use Bi-wire Audioquest cables. One day I’ll upgrade… one day.
Im a hardcore collector of Harman kardon Equipment Specially there mid 80s turntables are well built they dont makes em like that any more..Forget Fluance !
The scale to measure audiophiles is now 3-pronged. Listening to the music, gear fetishism and pressing fetishism. You can't neglect the people who go beyond listening and chase the best possible source to hear the music. There are many people who just feel a record is a record (or go to the popular step 2 which is the general OG vs reissue.) We now know mastering engineers matter, pressing plants matter, etc..
I don't think pure musicphiles are a subset of audiophiles. I consider myself somewhere near the middle of the spectrum. But in my student days, a professor friend of mine astounded me by his knowledge, appreciation and collection of music - mostly classical. As he was a little short of money over time, I would be content to give him the odd piece of audio equipment I didn't need any more thinking he would appreciate it. I was surprised years later when he told me his woman friend made him throw out the old equipment and he was perfectly happy to listen to his many CDs on her BOSE Wave Radio with CD player. Musicphile? Yes. Audiophile? Not in my book.
Remember you from Stereo Exchange! Was sad to see them move, hopefully they are still around.
Loved the walk through your systems. Going to listen to the amp and phono ones next.
I am a GEAR FIRST audiophile. By this I mean as I got higher quality gear (in college) I learned new music because I would play it to see how it sounded - and I came to love jazz this way for example.
I had that same Adcom preamp w/a Hafler DH 500 and had countless huge parties w/that combo, a pair of big Cerwin Vegas and another pair of speakers a buddy built for me. And an extra fan blowing right on top of that amp. Great times!
I’m guessing I’m about 5 years younger than you, based entirely on this gear diary. My story also started with Dad’s Advents (I actually talked him OUT of a Kenwood all-in-one tower, so I think it was an Onkyo receiver and a Sony CD player). Fun stuff. If you enjoy this video as much as I do, I suppose you’re on the gear side of neutral, on the continuum.
Gear vs music audiophiles, interesting. I started out falling in love with music, listening on my portable handheld transistor radio. Then in my early teens began purchasing 45’s to play on my Dad’s basic stereo he had recently purchased. However always gravitated towards radio for the sheer variety of music. At 17 purchased my first receiver (technics) after hearing it at a friends house. Still spend more on gear than music.
I've been a lover of live and recorded music literally all of my life. I've even tried my hand at playing the piano and clarinet. Mostly I gravitated to classical music although I have and listen to recordings of other genres. I'm quite judgmental about what I listen to and what I hear. At about 12 years old and knowing nothing i heard stereophonic sound for the first time, loved it and became an audiophile. At age 25 when the industry proclaimed it had achieved live concert hall realism with quadraphonic sound I built a system, immediately hated it, lost all respect for everyone in that industry, unbecame an audiophile, and at that point being a graduate engineer with a great deal of curiosity set about to find out why quad failed and what if anything could be done about it. And remarkably I came to understand the problem and how to solve it. It's not an easy problem, quite complicated in fact. I had no budget and at one point could have afforded to buy anything the market had to offer but never considered it. I've never paid more than $800 for any consumer audio product, invented and patented my own, and I'm a very happy camper. I have exactly what I want and nothing about it will ever change.
I was 14 I think when I got a pair of those Optimus 10 speakers and I loved them...
John
We had a very similar journey !
Really enjoyed the heyday of hi fi .
I am still a audiophile and am enjoying my current system ( Tubes rule ! ) and am enjoying the music .
Thanks
I owned a pair of the L07mII amps..they were 150 wpc into 8 ohms, 225 into 4! Thanks for the nostalgia!
The Denon PMA integrated amp is a good piece... wonderful to use.
Curious about power products utilized throughout your journey, diy or otherwise.
Very well said John, Music & gear.= Audiophile. Great discussion over the years,Realistic was my first receiver 25 watt back in the 70's.
My first serious system consisted of a Heathkit 8 watts per channel tube amp that I built myself when I was about 14. A pair of Heathkit 12inch triaxial speakers that I built the cabinets for and a Garrard top of the line turntable. It sounded great and that little Heathkit amp still working after about 25 years. Whish I had kept that system just for the great memories and all the pleasure it gave me.
John, thank you for sharing your journey. Interesting! What about your favorite power cords? Home brew or something else?
For my first gear my dad bought me a Realistic receiver and speakers as well! (no upgrade) And a Sony TT
I had the same denon tuner!!!....your Optimus 10's had 8" woofers 10"radiators
All who are in this hobby, who mainly go for the music, we all are aware. To reach a certain level quality in music, it requires gear on that level. On this road ,we know what it needed to get their
Haven’t you ever try Dynaco ST70 and PAS3X in your audio journey?