Star Wars Hasbro Retro collection wave one review - Toy Polloi
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- I finally got my hands on a full set of the six figures in Hasbro's Star Wars Retro collection. The six figures are Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, Darth Vader and Stormtrooper.
But are they any good. The only way to find out is to open them up and see how they look in the flesh. I've seen a lot of review with people just looking at them in the packet. That's no fun. Lets free them from their plastic tombs.
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I'm glad these have been made, its allowed me to put certain figures into dioramas that I have, I don't want to pay the ridiculous prices that they are being sold for, and they make me just as happy when I look over to my shelves and see them in my display.
Hi Dave, I just discovered you a couple of months ago but have watched every one of your videos. I have been using your repair techniques on all sorts of stuff. Repairing and restoring toys is really my thing. Loved this video and its companion. I am American but my mother, God rest her soul, was from Gloucestershire and I haven’t heard anyone really “give ‘em hell like that since she passed away. I agree with you entirely but I must admit that as I listened to give them “what for”, I was helpless with laughter. Made my day!
Thanks Steve. Glad you enjoyed it. I know people like my British terms and phrases. Just part of who I am.
Well, I grew up hearing my mother speak like that and also I spent a good deal of time in England visiting relatives and actually went to school there for a year (uniform with blazer and cap ). All my life when watching British TV, especially comedies, I would be howling with laughter while most other yanks are saying “Whaaat?!? Anyway, I do enjoy that. It kind of is who I am too. Keep up the good work. It is always a treat when I see a new video come through. Also thank you for all the effort It is really appreciated.
The strange thing is fans have proved that you can recreate these figures almost flawlessly. Yet, a huge company like Hasbro fails to do so.
Fans aren't reproducing and then mass producing them in the thousands. Most make them by order and put a ton of time and effort into each one marking up the cost dramatically. These are mass produced quickly and in an effort to hit a certain price point. With that being said Hasbro could have still done a much better job with these and other items from the past.
Probably because they don’t want to hunt around for ages and then pay extraordinary amounts of cash on original moulds and then find artisans who can create from them.
Great review of these figures!👍😁
Thanks for sharing your finds. I really want the Stormtrooper.
Here where I am in the US, there's two Target stores within driving distance from me, and I've never seen these or the board game. Not once. Pretty sure the scalper vultures got to them unfortunately. Honestly the only one I'd go for is Tarkin as I've got originals, but I initially thought this was actually a good thing these were coming, especially so others can get them too. Now, not so much. Great, rounded-out and honest review, Dave.
I'm glad they made these, it allows me to re-live the good parts of my childhood. I wasn't about to pay asinine prices for the originals plus I still have some of my original Star Wars figures. If you look in the right places you can actually get these for a little over $10 a piece.
They have been here in the UK for about 2 months. I bought mine from Forbidden Planet from early September.
Thank you Dave.
I was kind of thinking that their faces were a bit cartoony.
I bought 10 retro Stormtroopers and 5 Darth vader figures in NZ for $18 NZ dollars each very happy and no pamphlet involved.and paint job looks great.Awesome,took 43 years but worth the wait thanks Disney!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, good point about the choking warning. I looked at the first wave, all have it except Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader, only because they don't have blasters, like the other ones do. It does ruin it.
Good to see Mellencamp will be doing well with Mike's money for his singing
Looks like I have the US versions. Funny that Vader and Luke don't have the choking hazard warnings on the front. I guess it's because their weapons are not loose in the package.
Excellent video Dave! Funny the retro collection figures will actually hold weapons from the original figures or from some custom repro weapons,but not the Hasbro provided ones! Hasbro really needs to up their game and do some quality control!
You can tell by your voice your stoked.
even as a kid, I remember thinking "the weapon doesn't hold on this figure=I just bought a rubbish figure, let's leave it in the drawer". So annoying. And not just a problem with Star Wars. Show me a Kelek from D&D holding his sticks proudly! :D ...I would have been much happier with a figure with closed fists with a hole in the middle, I wasn't looking for realism, I was looking for a hand that could face a battle!
Great video and review. I wonder if the weapons and capes on these new versions will upset the ridiculous market for original vintage weapons and capes. Sometimes as a collector of strictly vintage 78-85 SW toys I sometimes purchase toys on EBay. Many times, as you know, the original vintage weapons and/or capes cost more (often substantially more) than the figure it’s self. I have been known to purchase inferior figures just to get the original weapon and/or cape.
Short answer is yes especially weapons
They're good if you want to get those figures complete easier, but they need to fix the QC issues. Great review overall.
Do you think you could do a video about how to fix accessories that don't fit in figures hands properly? Mainly the "loose in the hands" type. Since their a problem in this wave so far.
I'd assume that, for these, just like they did with the Classic Edition 4-Pack, that they made the molds for these from original figures, and not from original molds. This would explain the fact that they seem a little bit smaller, or lacking, all around.
I just saw that you mentioned this general notion when discussing the Stormtrooper....
wrap a small layer of black tape around blaster handle on Retro figs fixes the holding problem
Nice review
nice review, I kept mine in the cardback because they were so cheaply made.
I learned somewhere that Hasbro-on a subsequent release of these figures-
fixed the problem of them not being able to hold their own weapons in hand.
If this is true… then how can I identify/spot the action figures belonging to said subsequent release?
Can't wait for the Biker scout and at St driver and hopefully the at St itself.
I notice that the packaging on Darth Vader has been amended to show a red lightsabre instread of the purple one that is on the original card.
brianartillery The Black Series 40th anniversary did the same thing, but kept the yellow for Ben Kenobis’ card. :/
These were hard to find in the states. I found all 6 once. I only took the Trooper and Vader. The idea was to get more Troopers to have behind Vader and Train (from the board game) and display them with my Falcon. I never found anymore anywhere. So I have a Vader, 1 Storm Trooper and Train. LOL Side note, and you can hate me but I super glued the blaster to the Troopers hand. lol Sorry.
I love these! It’s frustrating that they couldn’t get the hands to hold weapons. But that said I’ll keep mine carded, they are amazing. I agree that I would have preferred not to have the faux weathering, retro sticker and the leaflet. But I can live with them. Awesome work Hasbro. :) Bring on Wave 2.
I doubt there will be a Wave 2. This first wave sold abysmally.
The Wheelies what makes you think that?
This is a fair review. It's not 'yay star wars' and it's not 'booo repro'
This neutrality is the trade mark of a true gentleman
Thanks. I try to be fair with my reviews, and treat them as toys first. And these fail at doing what they are supposed to do as toys. If it can't hold the gun it comes with, that just not on.
was never a fan of the Ringo version of Han Solo
Will you be getting one anyway?
He doesn't want to hold the gun. He's Hand Solo.
Next Toy-Polloi video; How to yellow your new stormtrooper to match the rest of the army.
To the tanning salon!
The reason why he can’t hold on to his gun is because hasbro half assed it there mint to stay on display in the box. Love your show TP
These recreated Chewbaccas are all that shiny.
Lighter fluid on the sticker with some patience will enable you to pull the sticker off without damaging the card.
The stormtrooper holds the gun magazine well.
Pity that they didn't dual mold the Luke Skywalker legs instead of painting the top white. Probably just a case of doing it on very tight budget, thats also maybe why they didn't clean up (fix the details) on what I'd assume would be 3D scans of the original figures that they used to create the new molds. The weapons are probably as result of the same thing.
My Original Han Solo had trouble holding his blaster as well. I had to angle it in his hand so it wasn't quite straight and looked a bit awkward. Some of my original Stormtroopers also had problems I dealt with in the same way. I ended up not having them hold the blasters as I was afraid of losing them. I kept them all in a small bag that my Mother gave to the jumble sale without knowing I wanted to keep them! Kinda back fired on me there. But yes they look like they have changed the blaster hand slightly on the Stormtrooper so it's more like the left hand than the old right used to be. Hans blaster handle looks thicker as well.
The vintage figures had *some* issues with holding a weapon, but these can't hold them at all - not even at an angle.
Got mine in Asda last week :)
To those calling these “cash grabs” I would cut Hasbro some slack on making these. They deserve to be called out for stupid stuff like artificial wear on the backer cards and putting a big red sticker on them. But Hasbro is first and foremost a business, and have been losing their ass on Star Wars because of Disney. Disney got a HUGE payday renewing the licensing toy rights to Hasbro, and still has given them unsellable rubbish characters and movies to sell toys from, and Disney has some control over what Hasbro is ALLOWED to make. Disney can say “70% of the toys have to be sequel trilogy, and you need to emphasis Holdo, Rey, and Rose because wahmen”.
Disney drove the final nails in the coffin of Toys R Us with uninteresting characters and toys focused on identity politics instead of making cool characters and movies that kids and collectors want to collect figures from.
Someday alien archeologists from another planet are going to think Rose Tico and Rey were 2 young fellas we worshipped as gods or ruled our planet at some point, when they excavate 400 million Rey and Rose figures from landfills around the world.
Not to mention, if it was a "cash grab", they'd actually have given more than ONE set to each store. lol
Amen.
I don't know how long these plastics will last in the elements, they might not be around for future archaeologists to discover.
I was a bit late to the game!
Got all 6 US version and a UK tarkin last week on eBay for £75 delivered
Steal of the year
With my retro Han solo figure I put blu tack in the hand to hold the blaster
You shouldn't have to do that if Hasbro had done a good job in making them.
The wave 2 of the retro figures are from empire strikes back
Great video, in your opinion did Hasbro did as well as the custom repro Smith lord?
I don't think they did. They have years of experience and access to the best equipment and resources available. But they are always let down by how cheaply they try to produce them. These are clearly aimed at collectors, but made way to cheaply. Such a shame.
I would buy some just to take the capes and light sabers.
I was born in 1979 so all the figures I had were second hand and yellow.I wished for the rerelease and I've survived long enough to have a great Stormtrooper for way less than the hundreds of dollars for yellowed bubble creased carded cracked bubble rubbish.Great Days!!!!!!
I experienced this as well. I bought reproduction blasters for the figures and they all worked great. Sad that I had to get reproduction blasters though
Had chewy, Vader and Luke when they came out back in the day.
You will be using a hair drier to remove the sticker, is that correct?
That's what I've been using for the past ten years or so,
I removed all the naff stickers from my vintage collection series, ( the pre Disney ones, they cost me an absolute fortune before the Disney movies, but now the prices are completely insane).
I've got the retro leia from taghuri on EBAY does them loose
Bought mine for my Birthday from Asda.
I’m in the US and I have yet to see these anywhere. Honestly I don’t really understand who these are for. If it’s nostalgia you want then it’s relatively easy to grab an original. If you’re getting them for your kids then they’d probably like the newer ones that look better with more articulation. Seems like hasbro is trying another collector cash grab. Can’t sell any of the new characters cuz no one cares about them so we’ll just make copies of the old ones. Then we don’t have to actually put thought into it. Here’s an idea how bout more cool play sets and vehicles. Maybe a Bespin or Hoth playset.
Since they're repros, use white/school glue to fasten weapons to the hands.
I never saw any of these in my local stores in Georgia. I would have bought every one if them just to have carded figures.
R. David Hill I haven’t seen any of these either in my local area, and I have a feeling people will be paying even more $$ for these reproductions.
@@AC-gb7do sadly you're probably right. I have a feeling scalpers are around me because my stores only ever have pegwarmers for everything. It's sad.
R. David Hill Exactly. That’s why I despite “convention exclusives” as well, by the time they get released to the mass market, people are charging crazy prices for them.
The originals went for $2.50 back in ‘78. Now they’re $22 - 30 even before going on eBay.
@@AC-gb7do so disgusting to see scalpers try and exploit collectors. My advice is to try and wait out these sellers until they drop prices down.
I got mine at Target. I had to ask for them as they weren't on the shelves.
Some of the vintage Stormtroopers had a wide leg stance and bad mold but lucky the retros don't have that.I love the retro line A++++++++
The loss of detail in the molds is due to 3d printing. When the prototypes come out of the printer, they have a rough surface (is the limited precision of the printer, the same concept of dots for a regular printer). The prototypes then have to be sanded in order to achieve a nice smooth surface. Of course all this didn't have to be done with the old manufacturing processes. Hopefully, soon better 3d printers will be affordable enough to be used for toys.
You would have thought that Hasbro have access to the best equipment. Shame they didn't use it.
I have come across 5 of these 6 figures reviewed, they are all original from 70s in what I think is like new condition with accessories. They aren’t in packaging do they have some value?
Yep, they have value.
Bit of Blue-tack in the hand should do it.
Why do they need the leaflet? Cant they just print that info on the back of the card? On a sticker if need be?
they were not that easy to get in the U.S. either at least not in New Jersey.
Never saw one on the shelf in Washington State..
I waited until the morning they were to be put on the shelf at our Target and bought the box of the six before they put it out (I actually had to have an employee get it from the back) and I haven't seen them anywhere in stores since. I mean, this was a Target and they only got *one* set of them in. Hasbro simply refuses to fix their distribution problems to let people buy their toys. It's just bewildering.
Good to know its not just the UK getting screwed then as normally the USA gets these things far easier than we do. Hope you got some in the end.
@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 i think the 3rd party sellers are raiding the stores and convincing the personel to sell them all the product before it goes on the store shelf.
About a month or so after thinking they had instantly sold out at my Target, turns out that they just never put them out on shelves! Someone on Twitter said that was happening at multiple stores in the US and said I should ask them if they have them in the back. After talking to eye-rolling associates who acted like I was ruining their day by asking them to do their jobs instead of texting, turns out they did have them all in the back. All I wanted was the Luke to fill a gap until I could get a vintage one, so I got him. It hit me afterwards that they didn't even charge me tax on it at checkout. I don't know if they ever did put the rest out, if they are still there in the black hole of "the back," or if employees or managers put them on ebay to get more money, which I suspect is happening with some of these quickly disappearing lots.
Well, when it comes to a Stormtrooper not being able to hold a weapon. Its not exactly the biggest loss. I mean they can't hit the wide side of a barn with it. At least this figure is being honest if he were put in with an army.
Remember these guys shot scores of rebels, at least a dozen Jawas, a couple of Ewoks, Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru, R2-D2 once, C-3PO once, and Leia twice.
@@blackmedick9989 Yeah and even a broken clock is right twice a day. When you got an army of a couple of thousand and they all fire and only like 20 land, that ain't really a great ratio of success.
@@blackmedick9989 yeah because there were so many of them one or two Stormtroopers had to hit something right.
I am UK based and got these in Aug from a pre-order made in mid May so you are pretty late getting these even for the UK. I couldnt get hold of the StormTrooper as army builders, scalpers had taken all the stock even back then (May) :( , so have to wait till fresh stock arrives again in Jan 2020. I didnt bother getting Leia, Han Solo as never liked those figures as a kid so stuck with Darth, Chewy, Luke. I agree the card stock is too flimsy and the fake card ageing is terrible, my Darth also arrived with a bent lightsabre brand new in the box .. lol
I got the Tarkin one
When I was a kid you could buy all 6 for 15 bucks.
5 bucks could buy you 2 figures.
They could have printed the legalese stuff in the back of the color card.
Although that would mean they would need to put it in a smaller font size... So maybe they actually couldn't.
A black marker should take care of the faux ageing in short order.
A hairdryer could be handy to soften the plastic
Great review Dave, appreciate that. Hasbro just cannot get basic quality right. Unforgivable that the weapons just don’t work, how on earth do they leave the factory. Those stickers are rubbish and a nuisance to remove. A wasted opportunity really.
I enjoy them but I'm not aching for them. Maybe because I have some alright condition versions already. If they release EMPIRE ones I will be broke though.
Sorry to go on but I'm so happy to get 10 retro Stormtroopers for the price of one return of the Jedi ,yellowed bubble ,cracked bubble ,wide stance,creased carded figure.YeHaaaaa!!!!!!!!
Bought them.... sold them 1 week later... JUNK!
Let's bring in hand solo
I could never find the stormtrooper when I was a kid....
Hi, same here as well the stormtrooper was so rare even up till when return of the jedi .. I managed to get the hoth snowtrooper instead.
Try and get the 1990s recreation figures box set and do a comparison with them. Not sure I will buy these unless they end up in a sale bin, probably will be next years bootfair fodder.
I sold all my loose vintage ones for $1300 pity the fools.the retros are awesome.
The big question is, do they smell the same...?
No sadly.
Cheaper than EBAY and Amazon if lucky enough to get them in Asda
The inability to hold their weapons kills these for me. My daughter opened her collection and we were so excited to play together, but dealing with their weapons was a total buzz-kill.
Dose anyone think they will make another wave of different figures at all ???
The problem is not the hands, it’s the weapons.
Are the figures made using the original molds?
No, from what I've found out about them, they've been based off of scans of vintage figures. Because of that, the details like Dave mentioned are softer when compared to the original versions.
Thanks makes sense. They have lost a lot of the fine details.
I'll admit I wanted these when I first heard about them, but then Hasbro made them so damn hard to get, now I have no interest in getting any of them.
Never saw them at Target
Only a few times at the Record for $15 bucks
If they made all of the last 17 and Ewoks as repos, then I'd be interested in those
I actually comeplety forgot about these..probably because I never saw a single one around me. See plenty of the new ones that come in the little box and those are everywhere because nobody is buying them
Same here, friend.
Paul B I happened across a complete set in ASDA UK but now way could I afford to fork out £60-I got two and when I returned the next day the rest were gone. If Hasbro has bothered to have adequate stock shipped I’d have bought the set over a couple of months. Though I guess they didn’t want to take the risk that overstock would warm shelves for the next year 🤷♂️
@@bobjordan69
CONGRATS on finding at least some of them
Maybe if I see Darth Vader or Princess Leia again, maybe I'll buy those two, so I have at least those two in my collection
The two Vintage Kenner Princess Leia's I have are missing capes
Haven't found the time to print off the Princess Leia cape pattern and try my hand at making a few .
Of the originals, I'm only missing 7
Blue Snaggletooth, Amanaman, Han Solo in carbonite, Luke Skywalker in stormtrooper disguise, Death Star Gunner, A-wing pilot, and Yakface.
Paul B thanks man. I was very lucky-and those were the two I bought!
Regarding the figures not holding the weapons: It's not the figures; it's the weapons that are the problem. Vintage figures won't hold the Retro Collection weapons, either. The Retro Collection figures can and do hold vintage (and reproduction) weapons quire well.
It's a bit of both I think.
So due to being inept at weapon holding, Retro Han cant shoot first.
They're not the original mold
They're molded from the actual figure so that's why they are smaller
Dave, can't you just modify the weapon handles with milliput???? come on you are Jedi Master of Milliput after all lol!!!!
These companies just need to realize, the good old days are gone. With all of the legal markings and words they need to include on the packaging these days...it just makes them look silly. And these aren't easy to get in the states either, haven't seen any of them yet around me. Plenty of those new ones in the little boxes though and they aren't selling at all
Buy the NZ ones your pound goes alot further and no pamphlet.
These will sell regardless of the packaging flaws. The original trilogy toys fly off the shelves. The new stuff is garbage.
I'm out looking to complete my set here in the US. They will make great filler display figures for my childhood collection.
Quality control issues; that's what led to the demise of the GI JOE line... :-(
Does the stamp says 2019?
No. No date at all.
There's no year, but nobody's going to mistake them for the vintage COO's. They're very clearly modern markings.
If the absolute silliness on the backs of those cards, and that pamphlet, doesn't make a statement about the absolutely Byzantine bureaucracy we live in now, compared to the freedom we used to have, I don't know what does. lol My God, that is a lot of legal garbage for a lump of plastic shaped vaguely like Harrison Ford.
I hate the massive retro collection stickers!
Hasbro and Disney is the reason why we can’t have nice things with Star Wars. -_-
Hate how they folded Vader’s cape to cover his body.
I have some bad news, TH-cam will change the Terms and Services in December 10, 2019!
Why do you believe it's bad news?
The big sticker on front of card ruined it for me
I believe the US Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker don't have that "Warning Choking Hazzard" stamp on them, nice review Dave, thank you!
Kinda cool, but I was much more impressed with later original figures.
No point if they can't hold weapons rather have a old dirty storm trooper least they can hold weapons.
Put the hands in hot water and bend the into shape as they cool
I doubt that will work on these as they are moulded wrong to star with.
@@toypolloi Worked on my Retro Tarkin
I got some small clear braces bands to put on Han, Stormy and Leia for my loose ones I got. It's annoying I had to do that. I got two sets, one on card and one to open.