Lots of people didnt like this fight cause not alot of action, me personaly i think it was one of PAC's best fights reason why is from the start of round 1 PAC mentally was already in Shanes head. We never saw Shanes right hand bombs and if he did throw the right it was always with caution especially after the knock down. Perfect example of a mental break down and what it does to a fighter. Shane was always in a feel out mode never really knowing how to attack. PAC needs to use hard feints more
So instead of trying to be clever of feeling as if you have something figured out present me with some numbers. What rounds you gave Manny in the third Marquez/Manny fight.
particular time. Thats what Manny is now, he give excellent performances as you seen with his previous fights. Everybody in the sport will one day lose plain and simple and you can either rise above it or fall with it. Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Hatton, De La Hoya had all lost before when they fought Manny, that doesnt take away what he physically did to margarito and cotto. How he knocked down hatton in 2 rounds, and how he retired de la hoya in the corner? like i said ..PERFORMANCE!
...I also think it's funny how Pac/Roach decided to finally fight Mosley after he had 2 bad performances, but didn't want to fight Mosley when he was 1st callin' him out, had more fight in him, and offered to move down to 140 & even take a small pay.
No. Not a survey of fans. A survey of boxing articles and analysts. The knockdowns did count against JMM in points, but you don't lose a fight just because you get knocked down. He edged Pacquiao out in virtually every round they fought.
the boxing fans of mosley was shock about this fight because they would never expect that manny can knockout him easily..we all know that mosley is a good fighter but i don't know what happen to this fight...
Yea we can agree there. Floyd has become more defensive over the years. But you have to think about it we cant complain he is still undefeated and he has beaten everyone in the sport. Actually Floyd wanted to fight Alvarez but De La HOya Canelo Alvarez's promoter said no.. Alvarez wasnt ready. So Floyd does beat the best he just does it in a very technical nature.
While Mosley was struggling in the ring with the Pacman, am pretty sure the first thought that came into Shane Mosley's head was, WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE DID I JUST GOTTEN MYSELF INTO..?? XD LMFAO!!
I've seen Floyd's combine highlights from all his fights and it gives the impression that he's always active. But when I watch any of his fights as a whole, he's barely active. He's really obsessed with hiding behind that shoulder roll and throwing pot shots and having the judges rule in his favor.
yea that is true. But Cotto was really damaged good from Margarito it was ugly. The same is happening to Berto he took his first loss to Ortiz and has fallen apart now is accused of using performance enhancing drugs. But when you consider the damage the rocks in Margarito gloves may have done..that's scary Margarito should have not been allowed to fight again,.
i have been watching fights since my childhood teen yrs and now my adulthood i was watching boxing matches when they aired live on CBS and ABC on saturday afternoons the only thing that matters in boxing is objectivity not what boxer your rooting for. i have never read propacquio articles but i do notice that marquez is a sore loser
nah i agree. im not saying the dude is going to be an easy win if pacman fights him, but im like mosley, i would only watched it as a fan of the sport cuz i really dont know who i would choose. for me its like the perfect ying and yang.
i agree. Honestly, I'm Mexican..hence why i consider chavez one of the greatest..lol but not only because of that, like i said the man fought world elite fighters and beat most of them if not all of them. but anyway, boxing is a sport the is embrace by the Mexican community, we take pride on previous clean boxers..so when i heard margarito was using rocks to beat his opponents..i dead ass felt ashame cuz thats sad, he is known as a cheater instead of the list with chavez, barrrera or marquez
No losing is losing. But knockouts do stimulate the crowd. Floyds fights are always boring because he is so much better than anyone else. That's not his fault.
I believe Marquez ability to counter Pac's southpaw style is unique. Watching the Floyd/Juda(southpaw) fight only showed Floyd's tendency to leave himself open for a hard left from a southpaw. Combine that with Pac's stamina and punching output. Floyd will have to knock him out to win because fighting backwards and defensively and leaving it to the judges is risky to his perfect record. That's why Pac lost to Bradley and why Marquez lost to Pac. Being "pretty" Floyd won't cut it.
yes marquez landed 10 more punches in the second fight and landed 15 more punches in the first fight but pacquio landed 50 more punches in the third fight there is a big difference in landing 50 more punches right than landing 10 more punches
marquez said it himself that he was not going to take any gambles or risk in the third fight because a knockdown can make a difference in the result of the fight those were marquez's words
Another easy argument to counter here too. If you watched Margarito/Cotto 2 Cotto was leading on the cards and would have won a decision anyways the stop was the icing on the cake. Also Margarito didnt have the rocks in his gloves like the first fight to start breaking Cotto face up FYI Cotto was leading on the cards in that fight too before the rocks in Margarito's gloves started breaking Cotto's face up. Sorry.
i agree. but i dont think he has fought someone who hits harder than pacquiao, maybe mosley, but see mosley ego made him lose that fight. he got two solid punches in the 2nd round and heard the crowd yelling "mosley! mosley! mosley!" and was just looking for a knock out instead of being smart about it. floyd seem like he can take a punch, but liek you said, manny throw to manny combinations, i feel he could PROB break floyds defense. PROB and if he does...it curtain time.
Against Floyd Mosley was jumping up and down, shaking his head right and left trying not to get hit by that right hand and was still getting caught. VS Pac Man Mosley is just standing straight up throwing soft punches, and not even trying to win the fight.
Good point. But Floyd fought Oscar at 154 back 07 5 years ago. But Floyd still had no issue going up against Oscar either. He went up in weight and beat Oscar and didnt complain about the weight but you dont have a point against Cotto that was his first time at that weight. Not Marquez is evenly matched with Manny at ANY weight their close fights and draw has proven that. Floyd is just too much for Marquez. Marquez basically said as much.
And winning a fight moving backwards? Marquez is a counterpuncher so him moving backwards is not a problem its sometimes part of the game plan ex. Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, Bernard Hopkins, ect.
Mosley's leg getting caught on Pac's when he got hit is what caused the knock down. And Idk wut Mosley was feelin' but I don't beleive he was hurt cuz that didn't even look like a hard shot.
Pacquiao fought Margarito for the vacant Jr. Middleweight Championship and you know that Margarito was 17 lbs. heavier than Pacquiao. That's about it. Pacauiao could never make the Middleweight. He is small by boxing standard, he short for a middleweight, he could only go up in weight that much. He has the good sense to know where he should fight, and that's welterweight. He knows his limitations.
Yeah. Sure. How about you look up what boxing experts thought about those fights? They thought the decision in Pacquiao's favor was just as shocking and ridiculous as the recent decision in Bradley's favor. Pacquaio beat Bradley, but let's call it Karma for being gifted decisions by the judges in two fights with Marquez.
Well, the second you question Floyd's stamina in favor of Pacuiao makes me question your working knowledge of the sport. Floyd routinely spars 15 minute rounds with cycled partners in his training. His stamina has not only never been questioned, but PROVEN throughout the years,. BOXING is what matters. The sweet science. I don't care about knockouts and I don't care about fighters outside the ring. There's an art to this game and Mayweather is a master at it. Period.
ok, i give you that. personally, im not a cotto nor margarito fan..so i dont really care about them. but all im saying before cotto lost to margarito, he was shinning. After his lost to pacquiao, even Larry merchant said "to the question is, will miguel cotto ever be great again?"..acknowledging the fact the cotto had lost some of his prime.
with the way the judges are pacquio landed 100 more punches than bradley the judges still gave the fight to bradley it wasnt enough a study was done in the state of las vegas in the past 20 years the judges in las vegas they usually side with the fighter who throws more punches pacquio threw more punches than marquez in all three fights. in the third fight avg punches thrown per round 49 for pacquio and 36 for marquez in the third fight.
You must remember that Manny Pacquiao did not knock Juan Manuel Marquez out, he knocked him DOWN. It's not the same. Marquez knocked Pacquiao out in their last fight. Marquez managed to do in six rounds what Pacquiao couldn't in thirty six. None of them was on roids, not in their last fight, not in any other fight prior to it, they tested negative every single time.
@SouthernSniper74 yeah i know i agree.. i don't know why everyone is saying that mayweather did better then pacquiao did against mosley... everyone says that mayweather landed really clean punches on mosley and pacquiao looked bad against mosley because he had trouble hitting him a lot
Actually Floyd called Mosely out way back in like 2000 or 2001 but Floyd wasnt a big enough name yet and Mosely was trying to fight Oscar. Just a little tid bit of info. And by the time Mosely wanted Floyd Floyd was already higher ranked than Mosely. Mosely had his chance. What about Manny waiting until after Floyd fought Mosely to fight him. It cools for Manny to fight him later but not Floyd? Where's the consistency?
You're a smart guy think about it. Floyd has only been hurt once in his career and that was against Mosely. Do you think Floyd is going to allow himself to be vulnerable again? Mosely may have gotten the only chance anyone will EVER get of hurting Floyd.
glady..i give manny the first 3 rounds, marquez 4,5,6,7, and ill even stretch it to 8, al thought pac man started coming back at the end of the minute. 9,10 were manny. 11 and 12 from what i saw it, was a tied, cuz neither of them did much in those last two rounds. some see it differently tho..but thats what i got.
no its not, but from my understanding..freddie roach wanted mosley the year before floyd fought him because he knew mosley would be a better "entertaining fight", his words, not mine. But he wanted mosley, but mosley wanted floyd.
I would agree with u if JMM didn't take flush lefts like they were nothing. A fighter on test is more likely to take more b/c test allows a fighter to recover from a punch quicker. It has only been 1yr since their last fight & if JMM can train to be stronger than he should also be able to be elusive like he was in the 3rd fight. He ate left after left, then left cross, right hook, like nothing...that is what stands out. If u have anymore ?s, I have an article a dr. wrote I think u should read.
no im not trying to reach here, dont get me wrong..i think floyd is an incredible boxer. he shows it, and he sure as hell brags about it. i bought all this because u said wins and losses are all their is in boxing. if thats all that matter we can reach deeper and deeper. like i said, last time i saw floyd fight somone eye to eye with him was corales..and foyd amazed me there and i was hoping to see more of that but till this day i never have.
oh ok cool. I didnt know that part. Floyd wanted Mosely back in the day. Mosely basically fell off then wanted to fight Floyd and then Floyd was already past him and said the hell with himm
Easy argument to counter. Actually Floyd was going to beat up Cotto back when Floyd was fighting gAtti.. Cotto was very young and his handlers said he wasnt ready yet. Cotto was ringside at that fight. Besides back then everyone was angling to fight Oscar De La Hoya after that one sided won against Gatti Floyd was trying to blow up and fight Oscar which he later did.
i recommend you to watch the old manny pacquiao fights ... you can teach everything youwant to teach to a fighter ,, but you cant teach courage lol.....
Marquez going up in weight is not that big of an issue because Floyd went up in weight to fight Cotto so what. Floyd fought Cotto at 154. Not 145 like Manny did (catchweight).
lets be devils advocate and say this would make sense if pacquiao is not retiring. If pacquiao is retiring then theres really nothing to lose and arum should accumulate what he can with that remaining fight.
he said that because a 10 to 8 round can decide the outcome of the fight close fights are not robberies marquez stopped throwing punches in the final rounds with the fight on the line thats why he lost.
And Manny will do more damage to people faces because he throws more punches, he lands a much lower percentage of his punches than meaning he is missing a lot more, but he does land more punches.
i would have liked for five international judges to watch the third pacquio and marquez fight just like they did for the bradley and pacquio fight marquez wanted no part of that because they would have told marquez the truth that he did not win the third pacquio fight
the sport is calling BOXING, not MMA. Meldrick Taylor didnt put a single blemish on Julio Cesar Chavez,that does not mean Taylor did not outbox JCC and would not have won if the fight went to the score cards. He was already ahead by a split decision until the controversial 2 seconds at the end of the 12 round. . Pacquiao is a stronger puncher, which is why marquez was swollen, but the last 2 fights, marquez should have won, or at least draw, because he put on a performance against the #1 p4p.
I never heard marquez say that. with two counter punchers, what do you expect? i didnt expect a exciting fight, to get the best of marquez, floyd had to be the aggresor, but he wasnt. so marquez tried to be the aggressor, which we know how that ended up for him. maybe if floyd was a southpaw, we would have seen a different fight but idk..i cant say it would have been any different.
the numbers were released by the nevada state athletic commision along with an aritcle the title of the article '' stats and judges scorecards confirm manny pacquios victory over juan manuel marquez .''
You're really trying to say Marquez is a more intelligent and tactical fighter than Mayweather? Floyd Mayweather Jr.? The guy who has made a PERFECT career on figuring out and out-smarting / out-boxing some of the best opponents in the world? Come, now. Mayweather can take a hit just fine. He's proved that in a variety of fights, but no more than in his fights vs. Castillo. At the end of the day, I think he's more than capable of both out-smarting and out-boxing Pacquiao. But we'll never see.
thanks for the putting the video
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that is the best explaination ever!!
Lots of people didnt like this fight cause not alot of action, me personaly i think it was one of PAC's best fights reason why is from the start of round 1 PAC mentally was already in Shanes head. We never saw Shanes right hand bombs and if he did throw the right it was always with caution especially after the knock down. Perfect example of a mental break down and what it does to a fighter. Shane was always in a feel out mode never really knowing how to attack. PAC needs to use hard feints more
i share exactly the same sentiments mate, nice to see someone else who shares the same opinion..
what is kap mean in thai i always here it but what is it, good video tho thx
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Like with every athlete as he gets older he will slow but for now he is the best. The only way he loses is if he moves up another weight class.
So instead of trying to be clever of feeling as if you have something figured out present me with some numbers. What rounds you gave Manny in the third Marquez/Manny fight.
Sparring between good friends.....
nice fight idol
HE would be a great kickboxer.
particular time. Thats what Manny is now, he give excellent performances as you seen with his previous fights. Everybody in the sport will one day lose plain and simple and you can either rise above it or fall with it. Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Hatton, De La Hoya had all lost before when they fought Manny, that doesnt take away what he physically did to margarito and cotto. How he knocked down hatton in 2 rounds, and how he retired de la hoya in the corner? like i said ..PERFORMANCE!
I know but the English commentary changes the atmosphere even if the fights old.
...I also think it's funny how Pac/Roach decided to finally fight Mosley after he had 2 bad performances, but didn't want to fight Mosley when he was 1st callin' him out, had more fight in him, and offered to move down to 140 & even take a small pay.
No. Not a survey of fans. A survey of boxing articles and analysts.
The knockdowns did count against JMM in points, but you don't lose a fight just because you get knocked down. He edged Pacquiao out in virtually every round they fought.
thanks,,,but too much advertisment. i think this is how thai tv get their money back... at least thai tv show the fight for free. thai chai yooo.
This fight was not broadcasted by HBO, but Showtime. Anyway.
exactly close fights are not robbery's
the boxing fans of mosley was shock about this fight because they would never expect that manny can knockout him easily..we all know that mosley is a good fighter but i don't know what happen to this fight...
HE WILL NEVER BE AS GREAT AS MANNY PACQUIAO..AMEN!
Yea we can agree there. Floyd has become more defensive over the years. But you have to think about it we cant complain he is still undefeated and he has beaten everyone in the sport. Actually Floyd wanted to fight Alvarez but De La HOya Canelo Alvarez's promoter said no.. Alvarez wasnt ready. So Floyd does beat the best he just does it in a very technical nature.
yeah pacquiao does need to work on fighting guys with lateral moverment hats his flaw
While Mosley was struggling in the ring with the Pacman, am pretty sure the first thought that came into Shane Mosley's head was, WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE DID I JUST GOTTEN MYSELF INTO..?? XD LMFAO!!
And most especially floyd's straight right hand......
I've seen Floyd's combine highlights from all his fights and it gives the impression that he's always active. But when I watch any of his fights as a whole, he's barely active. He's really obsessed with hiding behind that shoulder roll and throwing pot shots and having the judges rule in his favor.
yea that is true. But Cotto was really damaged good from Margarito it was ugly. The same is happening to Berto he took his first loss to Ortiz and has fallen apart now is accused of using performance enhancing drugs. But when you consider the damage the rocks in Margarito gloves may have done..that's scary Margarito should have not been allowed to fight again,.
i have been watching fights since my childhood teen yrs and now my adulthood i was watching boxing matches when they aired live on CBS and ABC on saturday afternoons the only thing that matters in boxing is objectivity not what boxer your rooting for. i have never read propacquio articles but i do notice that marquez is a sore loser
And also Marquez spent a lot of that fight moving forward with Manny moving backward.
cool. I follow you now.
nah i agree. im not saying the dude is going to be an easy win if pacman fights him, but im like mosley, i would only watched it as a fan of the sport cuz i really dont know who i would choose. for me its like the perfect ying and yang.
If shane actually came to fight, this would of been a pretty good one
well said
agreed
i agree. Honestly, I'm Mexican..hence why i consider chavez one of the greatest..lol but not only because of that, like i said the man fought world elite fighters and beat most of them if not all of them. but anyway, boxing is a sport the is embrace by the Mexican community, we take pride on previous clean boxers..so when i heard margarito was using rocks to beat his opponents..i dead ass felt ashame cuz thats sad, he is known as a cheater instead of the list with chavez, barrrera or marquez
No losing is losing. But knockouts do stimulate the crowd. Floyds fights are always boring because he is so much better than anyone else. That's not his fault.
I believe Marquez ability to counter Pac's southpaw style is unique. Watching the Floyd/Juda(southpaw) fight only showed Floyd's tendency to leave himself open for a hard left from a southpaw. Combine that with Pac's stamina and punching output. Floyd will have to knock him out to win because fighting backwards and defensively and leaving it to the judges is risky to his perfect record. That's why Pac lost to Bradley and why Marquez lost to Pac. Being "pretty" Floyd won't cut it.
yes marquez landed 10 more punches in the second fight and landed 15 more punches in the first fight but pacquio landed 50 more punches in the third fight there is a big difference in landing 50 more punches right than landing 10 more punches
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I like em both but bring back Shane from 10 years ago and he'll jump into Pac with fast hard right hands.
LOL!!!.i felt the same way. Everything in life come back, sooner or later.
marquez said it himself that he was not going to take any gambles or risk in the third fight because a knockdown can make a difference in the result of the fight those were marquez's words
Another easy argument to counter here too. If you watched Margarito/Cotto 2 Cotto was leading on the cards and would have won a decision anyways the stop was the icing on the cake. Also Margarito didnt have the rocks in his gloves like the first fight to start breaking Cotto face up FYI Cotto was leading on the cards in that fight too before the rocks in Margarito's gloves started breaking Cotto's face up. Sorry.
i agree. but i dont think he has fought someone who hits harder than pacquiao, maybe mosley, but see mosley ego made him lose that fight. he got two solid punches in the 2nd round and heard the crowd yelling "mosley! mosley! mosley!" and was just looking for a knock out instead of being smart about it. floyd seem like he can take a punch, but liek you said, manny throw to manny combinations, i feel he could PROB break floyds defense. PROB and if he does...it curtain time.
Against Floyd Mosley was jumping up and down, shaking his head right and left trying not to get hit by that right hand and was still getting caught. VS Pac Man Mosley is just standing straight up throwing soft punches, and not even trying to win the fight.
Pacquiao is an amature
Good point. But Floyd fought Oscar at 154 back 07 5 years ago. But Floyd still had no issue going up against Oscar either. He went up in weight and beat Oscar and didnt complain about the weight but you dont have a point against Cotto that was his first time at that weight. Not Marquez is evenly matched with Manny at ANY weight their close fights and draw has proven that. Floyd is just too much for Marquez. Marquez basically said as much.
@PhukAdvertisements you can never say it until it never happened. "Style makes fight"
And winning a fight moving backwards? Marquez is a counterpuncher so him moving backwards is not a problem its sometimes part of the game plan ex. Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, Bernard Hopkins, ect.
Mosley's leg getting caught on Pac's when he got hit is what caused the knock down. And Idk wut Mosley was feelin' but I don't beleive he was hurt cuz that didn't even look like a hard shot.
"Speed in boxing kills...."
you have to remember Canelo is a big strong dude too, but what you said is the truth
Pacquiao fought Margarito for the vacant Jr. Middleweight Championship and you know that Margarito was 17 lbs. heavier than Pacquiao. That's about it. Pacauiao could never make the Middleweight. He is small by boxing standard, he short for a middleweight, he could only go up in weight that much. He has the good sense to know where he should fight, and that's welterweight. He knows his limitations.
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but you see wat happen after that... floyd was still focus... he dont let things like that determin wats gonna happen the rest of the fight...
Yeah. Sure.
How about you look up what boxing experts thought about those fights? They thought the decision in Pacquiao's favor was just as shocking and ridiculous as the recent decision in Bradley's favor. Pacquaio beat Bradley, but let's call it Karma for being gifted decisions by the judges in two fights with Marquez.
Yea Floyd doesnt throw enough punches to break guys faces up. He's too defensive minded.
48:22 - How did the ref not notice this blatant push?
Well, the second you question Floyd's stamina in favor of Pacuiao makes me question your working knowledge of the sport. Floyd routinely spars 15 minute rounds with cycled partners in his training. His stamina has not only never been questioned, but PROVEN throughout the years,.
BOXING is what matters. The sweet science. I don't care about knockouts and I don't care about fighters outside the ring. There's an art to this game and Mayweather is a master at it. Period.
PACQUIAO the REAL P4P BOXER in the WORLD.....and HE PROVE it!!!!!
ok, i give you that. personally, im not a cotto nor margarito fan..so i dont really care about them. but all im saying before cotto lost to margarito, he was shinning. After his lost to pacquiao, even Larry merchant said "to the question is, will miguel cotto ever be great again?"..acknowledging the fact the cotto had lost some of his prime.
mosley is good in running,., llol!but still a great fighter!peace!
with the way the judges are pacquio landed 100 more punches than bradley the judges still gave the fight to bradley it wasnt enough a study was done in the state of las vegas in the past 20 years the judges in las vegas they usually side with the fighter who throws more punches pacquio threw more punches than marquez in all three fights. in the third fight avg punches thrown per round 49 for pacquio and 36 for marquez in the third fight.
Manny wouldnt say that. He too humble. For real.
You must remember that Manny Pacquiao did not knock Juan Manuel Marquez out, he knocked him DOWN. It's not the same. Marquez knocked Pacquiao out in their last fight. Marquez managed to do in six rounds what Pacquiao couldn't in thirty six. None of them was on roids, not in their last fight, not in any other fight prior to it, they tested negative every single time.
it's hard to fight manny because his guard is up all the time , he block must punches.He rarely gets hits.
pacquio landed 176 punches marquez landed 138 punches pacquio attempted- 578 punches marquez attempted- 436 punches
@SouthernSniper74 yeah i know i agree.. i don't know why everyone is saying that mayweather did better then pacquiao did against mosley... everyone says that mayweather landed really clean punches on mosley and pacquiao looked bad against mosley because he had trouble hitting him a lot
Actually Floyd called Mosely out way back in like 2000 or 2001 but Floyd wasnt a big enough name yet and Mosely was trying to fight Oscar. Just a little tid bit of info. And by the time Mosely wanted Floyd Floyd was already higher ranked than Mosely. Mosely had his chance. What about Manny waiting until after Floyd fought Mosely to fight him. It cools for Manny to fight him later but not Floyd? Where's the consistency?
You're a smart guy think about it. Floyd has only been hurt once in his career and that was against Mosely. Do you think Floyd is going to allow himself to be vulnerable again? Mosely may have gotten the only chance anyone will EVER get of hurting Floyd.
Manny Pacquiao vs Same to you Mosely.
glady..i give manny the first 3 rounds, marquez 4,5,6,7, and ill even stretch it to 8, al thought pac man started coming back at the end of the minute. 9,10 were manny. 11 and 12 from what i saw it, was a tied, cuz neither of them did much in those last two rounds. some see it differently tho..but thats what i got.
no its not, but from my understanding..freddie roach wanted mosley the year before floyd fought him because he knew mosley would be a better "entertaining fight", his words, not mine. But he wanted mosley, but mosley wanted floyd.
I would agree with u if JMM didn't take flush lefts like they were nothing. A fighter on test is more likely to take more b/c test allows a fighter to recover from a punch quicker. It has only been 1yr since their last fight & if JMM can train to be stronger than he should also be able to be elusive like he was in the 3rd fight. He ate left after left, then left cross, right hook, like nothing...that is what stands out. If u have anymore ?s, I have an article a dr. wrote I think u should read.
no im not trying to reach here, dont get me wrong..i think floyd is an incredible boxer. he shows it, and he sure as hell brags about it. i bought all this because u said wins and losses are all their is in boxing. if thats all that matter we can reach deeper and deeper. like i said, last time i saw floyd fight somone eye to eye with him was corales..and foyd amazed me there and i was hoping to see more of that but till this day i never have.
oh ok cool. I didnt know that part. Floyd wanted Mosely back in the day. Mosely basically fell off then wanted to fight Floyd and then Floyd was already past him and said the hell with himm
More like a Tiger chasing a Deer to me XD LOL!!
Did you tap in to the phone call??
Easy argument to counter. Actually Floyd was going to beat up Cotto back when Floyd was fighting gAtti.. Cotto was very young and his handlers said he wasnt ready yet. Cotto was ringside at that fight. Besides back then everyone was angling to fight Oscar De La Hoya after that one sided won against Gatti Floyd was trying to blow up and fight Oscar which he later did.
i recommend you to watch the old manny pacquiao fights ...
you can teach everything youwant to teach to a fighter ,,
but you cant teach courage lol.....
Floyd makes no mistakes because he takes no chances idk if floyd will be able to hit pacquiao enough to slow him down he relies on one shot at a time
Manny would trouble floyd as much as Floyd would trouble manny! I wish the fight happens while they are both still in their prime
Marquez going up in weight is not that big of an issue because Floyd went up in weight to fight Cotto so what. Floyd fought Cotto at 154. Not 145 like Manny did (catchweight).
pacquio attempted 49 punches per round marquez attempted 36 punches per round
lets be devils advocate and say this would make sense if pacquiao is not retiring. If pacquiao is retiring then theres really nothing to lose and arum should accumulate what he can with that remaining fight.
he said that because a 10 to 8 round can decide the outcome of the fight close fights are not robberies marquez stopped throwing punches in the final rounds with the fight on the line thats why he lost.
10:29 i never how scared mosley was to get hit again
So many words to say so little to this I ask you, do you believe Manny won the last fight with Marquez?
And Manny will do more damage to people faces because he throws more punches, he lands a much lower percentage of his punches than meaning he is missing a lot more, but he does land more punches.
okay the Marquez Manny fight I had 8-4 Marquez. But 6-6 is fair too. Cool I needed to find out if you were biased or not.
mosley was running scared in this fight against pacquiao i hope mosley beats canelo but i don't think he will i see canelo winning by decision
i would have liked for five international judges to watch the third pacquio and marquez fight just like they did for the bradley and pacquio fight marquez wanted no part of that because they would have told marquez the truth that he did not win the third pacquio fight
i cant here cuz the guy is talking like an expert
the sport is calling BOXING, not MMA. Meldrick Taylor didnt put a single blemish on Julio Cesar Chavez,that does not mean Taylor did not outbox JCC and would not have won if the fight went to the score cards. He was already ahead by a split decision until the controversial 2 seconds at the end of the 12 round. . Pacquiao is a stronger puncher, which is why marquez was swollen, but the last 2 fights, marquez should have won, or at least draw, because he put on a performance against the #1 p4p.
I never heard marquez say that. with two counter punchers, what do you expect? i didnt expect a exciting fight, to get the best of marquez, floyd had to be the aggresor, but he wasnt. so marquez tried to be the aggressor, which we know how that ended up for him. maybe if floyd was a southpaw, we would have seen a different fight but idk..i cant say it would have been any different.
Mosley I want the 51min of my life back. Why did he even show up that night, clearly the last thing on his mind was boxing.....
Yea they need to get this damn fight on already. They are both getting old.
the numbers were released by the nevada state athletic commision along with an aritcle the title of the article '' stats and judges scorecards confirm manny pacquios victory over juan manuel marquez .''
You're really trying to say Marquez is a more intelligent and tactical fighter than Mayweather? Floyd Mayweather Jr.? The guy who has made a PERFECT career on figuring out and out-smarting / out-boxing some of the best opponents in the world?
Come, now. Mayweather can take a hit just fine. He's proved that in a variety of fights, but no more than in his fights vs. Castillo. At the end of the day, I think he's more than capable of both out-smarting and out-boxing Pacquiao. But we'll never see.
marquez vs margarito