culture makers have culture bombed us all. i recently turned to gambling on golf and watching it more. sadly it's the only telecast you can watch now and it still feel somewhat how it once was. watching basketball or football on tv is over. too much rap music and culture bombing going on. it's over.
You’re welcome. I was so upset the full version wasn’t on TH-cam, I had to buy the VHS on eBay and convert it. Then figured the world deserves to see this too!
@@WhereTheyPlayForPay I didn't even realise these were available on VHS. I'm looking through those I haven't seen now and thinking about ordering some that haven't already been uploaded. One of the Knudson matches and the one at Bamf springs were what got me started playing golf. Great stuff, best golf presentation ever in this Shell Series in my opinion, and this particular episode is a rare chance to see two of the all time greats from the pre TV era in color both still playing very well (In Hogans case on this day exceptionally well).
@@poocrayon4588 I believe a few were released on VHS ~30 years ago. I love George Knudson - thankfully many of his episodes are on TH-cam. I also just bought the book by Fred Raphael that goes over the history of the series!
Hogan hit every fairway and green in regulation, his shots never straying more than a few yards from their intended target. He did so with butter-knife blades and balata balls, at the age of 52. Some of his avid fans have said that if he'd had the putting game of his contemporaries like Casper, he'd have been shooting low 60s and even sub-60 every time he stepped up. IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground.
" IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground." His ball striking was beyond compare. However, his putting was poor, by his own admission, and that would prevent him from grinding everyone today into the ground. He'd certainly hold his own, though.
@@johndickson9542 I agree, putting was his Achille's Heel. By 'grinding' I mean this. Hogan was frequently outdriven by his contemporaries. He ground them down by approach shots that put pressure on them. His consistency was the key to his success. It's very tricky to make generational comparisons. But I've an idea that with identical equipment, he would give any of today's players a tough time, especially in matchplay. If he had Jack or Tiger's putting game? Scary thought.
@@FabrisFanatic Not to mention the constant pain in his legs. And yet he won 6 of 7 tournaments he entered in 1953, including 3 majors. Astounding, indeed.
My hands are stinging with just the thought and I haven’t even tried it yet. I had a one iron back in my younger days but it’s full steam ahead with hybrids nowadays. Lol
This is the equipment that should still be used today and then you would know how much of the distance is due to technology and how much is die the skill of the player. Current pros hitting 350 yard drives with the current club technology and juiced balls is like pro baseball players being allowed to use metal bats and then crowing about how far they hit it or how many homers they hit. Nobody would buy that as legitimate, yet in golf the powers that be have allowed technology to take over the game. Aaron Judge hits his 450’ bombs with a stick of wood just like Ruth & Gehrig did.
@@dorothygale1104 Exactly, it's ruined continuity within the game and many courses and the overall style of play (not to mention it looks cartoonish to see those big ass driver heads, they're like bumper bowling for golf). The metal drivers were first meant to be for women and the elderly so they could keep some pace with grown men - now we have the best of the grown men using models far easier to hit with than those meant to give worse players an advantage. It's a ridiculous situation which should never have happened.
12:50 lightning strikes twice. Snead doesn’t even re-start his pre-shot routine. Just stripes it long and straight with a club that today would be size of a hybrid.
Green Distant Star's comment is spot on. William Ben Hogan is the greatest shotmaker in the history of golf. That includes Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, or any other player before or since!! What makes this clip so compelling is that Hogan, in this match, was absolutely brilliant. Even for Ben Hogan!! He hit every Fairway, Every Green. In doing so, his shots didn't vary 10 feet the entire day from the tee shot to the flag!! A true case study in the golfing genius of the "Wee Ice Mon." As the Scots referred to him. Even scarier is that Hogan in an average round was almost as good. Probably the most unbelievable golf stat I've ever heard is what Hogan accomplished in 1940, while winning three consecutive tournaments in North Carolina. In those 216 holes played, Hogan missed a total of two greens!! The average leader in GIR on the current tour is about 75 percent. How about 99 percent for Hogan?! What kept Jack and Tiger in the discussion for the greatest player was their superior putting. No one, NO ONE, controlled a golf ball like Ben Hogan. This great video is a timeless look at a genius like no other.
@scottreiber6879 We have to agree to disagree on this one. The Merry Mex was a solid number two. In the wonderful golf channel bio "Hogan" Trevino joked that "you had to turn sideways to see the flag because his golf ball covered it every time he hit it!! Their other similarity is in how rough they had it growing up. Trevino didn't have a home with electricity until he joined the Marines. Both outworked their peers in every way. "The greatest thing in golf is confidence," Trevino observed in Hogan. The more dirt you move, the more confidence you get." Both had another less fortunate similarity in their career. They both suffered terrible accidents. Hogan from a terrible car collision with a Greyhound bus. Trevino, decades later, was struck by lightning. It's easily the toughest pair ever to trod the links. Anytime. Anywhere.
What a great upload. Even the music was great. Loved the intro with the neighborhoods and background info. I know it’s been said over and over, but their talent was unreal. That old equipment, 7000 yards,….they could handle it. Sure, it’s been mentioned almost cliche and I’m doing it here, but fun to imagine what these two men would do with todays equipment and technology. The best today would still be incredible if they were given this old equipment to mind you.
This head-to-head format would be nice to repeat with some of today's Senior golfers. Shell is still around, too. They might sign on to be sponsor again. Other than the Majors, I'm not too interested in the big 4-day tourneys anymore. But I might watch a shorter one-day event like this, on youtube.
The grass on the greens in those days was probably longer than the grass on the fairways the pros play on today. There were a lot of 'wristy' putters. Here's Billy Casper, one of the best putters of his era: th-cam.com/video/mXDwxMXUpB0/w-d-xo.html
Now you can see why he went side saddle and even croquet style later on until they banned the croquet style. I never really noticed his putting stroke before but you are correct that shit is all over the place. I thought my stroke was bad. Lol
“Par 72 and it’s a long baby playing 7,056 yards”. 😊 The PGA at Valhalla this year is 7,609 yards and is a par 71. Amazing what technology and player fitness has done to the game. I like the old days better though. Skill and a good golf noggin was required more than in today’s game.
The avg driving distance on PGA Tour in 1980 was 256 yards and I am positive it was lower by at least 10 yards in the 1960’s. The avg driving distance on PGA tour is about 300 yards. And all clubs are going much further because of the ball on irons, fwy woods. And Hogan and Snead were 52 years old so they were playing a course that was considered long by 1964 PGA tour standards. The U.S. Open at Congressional was 7056 yards and was the longest US Open course up until 1964
Aside from a few people really training speed I think it's mostly the tech. It's not just that the drivers (especially) hit further, you can also swing like crazy because you dont have to really middle the ball in a smaller sweet spot. There may be some distance increase without the tech because of players working out, but I dont think it would be anything crazy. You've gotta remember both these guys were in their 50's at this point.
The Astrodome is NOT EVEN COMPLETED in this video! When i saw it, all i could think of was the smell of the hamburgers they sold there. And yes, Slammin' Sammy has a swing that is unmistakable. 7,000 yards was long when you hit wooden drivers and irons that have a sweet spot the size of the tip of your little finger. I think i remember that the Colonial course in Ft. WORTH (Byron Nelson open) was 7200 in 65 and 7700 in 75.
@@patrickdumass7611 I think you are correct, I thought about it afterwards. I know and watched an amateur who played in the pro-am in 79?. I just remember looking down some of the par 4s from the black tees... I hit it a long way back then, but man... 6 par 4s over 440 yards and a 585 yard and 635 yard par 5.
7000 yards with those clubs and balls, and in Houston's low elevation and high humidity. That course was playing LONG. Modern equivalent would likely be well over 8k.
I think it goes to show that you work with your natural swing. To me it looks like Hogan never takes a “full” backswing. It’s the speed coming forward that counts
Agreed. They are an absolute delight. George Thomas is smooth. To anyone who knows, Gene knows the game inside out and we get to see some players who were regarded as the best in the 60s and were so good they are still regarded as the best 6 decades later . Sam played pretty well and Ben without even seeming to hole much best him by 3. 😊😂
Lee Trevino, Bobby Nichols, and Jerry Heard were hit by lightning at the Western Open in Chicago. When asked what he was doing after seeing lightning Mr. Trevino said he held up a 1 iron. Why, doesn't that act like a lightning rod? Mr. Trevino replied, 'Not even God can hit a 1 iron.
Would be great to see this without the screen being stretched to fit. They look 5ft tall and their swings look flatter than they were. Other videos of this match are the same unfortunately.
if it can be downloaded then played on VLC I'm sure a proper aspect ratio can be found. I'm not even sure I can watch this, Snead's body looks freakish.
5 grand in those days was a lot for a golf match. In tournaments, guys who made the cut for the weekend but finished at the bottom of the heap would take home less than $100 bucks.
Absolutely. One of the biggest changes since Tiger came along has been that mediocre players, who may never win in their careers can still become very rich men.
Hogan peppers the flag more than Ian Baker Finch in the latter's scorcher when he won the Open. From his record, I guess that was pretty typical for Hogan. Makes it look so easy
They were much slower, which in my opinion is a little better than today because they hold more irons, but there's a better in between. Probably about 80's era is optimum green speed in my opnion. Fast enough that good steady putting is rewarded, slow enough that you dont have to use crazy spin to keep shots on the green. But remember it rained heavily during this match so greens were wet.
250+ yard drives on soft fairways and 190 yard 6 irons with those old clubs. I played with these kind of clubs when I was a kid in the 80's. Those 6 irons have the loft of today's 8 irons of course. I hit one drive 275 downhill when I was 15 and I thought I was headed to the PGA. How good were these guys? And how hard did they hit it? I would love to know if someone could find a way to estimate their club head speed. It had to be moving good to carry 250 with persimmons. Not to mention the old, wound golf balls. It also boggles my mind that modern players don't move their drives in both directions. Was Hogan that much more talented then them?
You could be sure both players in their prime would be as long as the top pros today, given the same equipment. Especially Snead. He absolutely crushed it in his youth. Old drivers had a different weight distribution and characteristics that made it easier (and necessary) to work the ball. Balata balls spun like crazy not only on approaches but all the time. This helped a draw or a fade. Today with the giant heads it is almost impossible.
I played persimmon clubs back in the 70s which was only 10 years after this and I gotta believe they were hitting it past 250 yds. Today’s pros on a 7000 yd course would be driver wedge all day.
The equivalent course length today given the equipment advances should mean 8,000 yard courses regularly for the pros. 21 under winning a major (‘24 PGA) is a joke.
Here's the thing- Tiger Woods is indisputably the greatest golfer of All-Time. If I met him, I would say, "Tiger, keep firing!" If I met Ben Hogan I would not say anything, unless spoken to. He is royalty. "Thank you, Mr. Hogan!" would be the only words I could muster.
@@johndickson9542 Yah, yah. My dad and I watched most of his career, together. He is my emotional GOAT. I have to be objective, and forget money. Ben Hogan is not 2x better than Nicklaus. He is just 2% better in my mind. Obviously, if you catch me on a Sunday, I might say Jack. ha,ha!
255 off the tee. My how things have changed. Not necessarily for the better in my opinion. No such thing as driver, sand wedge into 400 yard par fours. This is back when golf was really great.
@@davidshuff8838 Todays irons yes. But its still a long way anyway you slice it. It's a long distance to stand and look from point A to B from. If your hitting the ball so far you can barely see it land on every other club and have to walk 100 more miles to play, whats the point? It's like using suped up metal baseball bats that hit the length of 2 stadiums then having to increase stadium size to play the same basic game, it's just so stupid that it reached this point.
So nice the Great Game back then. Everybody well dressed and behaved and none of this getting drunk and shouting get in the hole like the YANKS keep screaming today in their horrible slurry drunk accents.
1965, when America was on the gold standard and had honest money that could not easily be corrupted and created for free, out of thin air, whilst other people have to work for it, thereby diluting the value of every dollar that they earn and own, thereby stealing the value of their life's work, effort and time from them. In 1971, that all changed and began the evil, thieving and corrupt fiat money standard. And look at America now! All roads lead to Bitcoin now. The most honest and incorruptible money that the World has ever had. That is inevitable.
Also, nobody yelling stupid shit like, “Go in the hole” or “Baba Booey” or “ Mashed potato “ . People had class then and didn’t have to shout out stupid shit to make it all about themselves.
I wasn't even alive, but this is so nostalgic and comforting. Even the intro exploring Houston in 1965 tugs at my soul.
You said it Mike!
I wish I had been born in 1935 so in 1955 I would be 20. The mid 50’s in my opinion would have been a great time to be alive.
Couldn't you just wish now was a great time to be alive?
These guys are hitting it 260-265-270 off the tee with basically a piece of varnished two-by-one attached to a walking stick.
Respect. Golf monsters!
And zero steroids.
I was hitting my Persimmon driver 280 back in the mid 70's..but it took every bit of my 150 pounds to do it.
With those golf balls.
We use to have such a nice country. Its easy to see we are watching what is a lost civilization.
culture makers have culture bombed us all. i recently turned to gambling on golf and watching it more. sadly it's the only telecast you can watch now and it still feel somewhat how it once was. watching basketball or football on tv is over. too much rap music and culture bombing going on. it's over.
Fabulous to get to watch extended coverage of two of the very greatest golfers in history.
Loving these clips and George Rogers’ soothing, classic voice.
Thanks for putting this on TH-cam! It was cool to get a lesson from Hogan and Snead!!
No problem. It bothered me the full version wasn’t on here!
If only golf was still this great! 😊
Two of the Greats..Thanks Shell for this clip.....
2 of some of the best swings in golf.
loved this series
Thank you for posting this. I should be watching the 2024 PGA championship, but I love this period and these players more.
21 under winning score - what a joke
Oh man, finally! I've been waiting years to see the full version of this. Thanks buddy.
You’re welcome. I was so upset the full version wasn’t on TH-cam, I had to buy the VHS on eBay and convert it. Then figured the world deserves to see this too!
@@WhereTheyPlayForPay I didn't even realise these were available on VHS. I'm looking through those I haven't seen now and thinking about ordering some that haven't already been uploaded. One of the Knudson matches and the one at Bamf springs were what got me started playing golf.
Great stuff, best golf presentation ever in this Shell Series in my opinion, and this particular episode is a rare chance to see two of the all time greats from the pre TV era in color both still playing very well (In Hogans case on this day exceptionally well).
@@poocrayon4588 I believe a few were released on VHS ~30 years ago.
I love George Knudson - thankfully many of his episodes are on TH-cam. I also just bought the book by Fred Raphael that goes over the history of the series!
This match is a real treasure, and now having the full version (and especially with lessons at the end) is awesome! Thanks for the upload!😊
Never saw this show originally but I wish they would do a remake today.
They did a remake in the mid to late 90s
6 iron looked like the same loft as an 8 iron today.
it sure did
Hogan hit every fairway and green in regulation, his shots never straying more than a few yards from their intended target. He did so with butter-knife blades and balata balls, at the age of 52. Some of his avid fans have said that if he'd had the putting game of his contemporaries like Casper, he'd have been shooting low 60s and even sub-60 every time he stepped up. IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground.
" IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground."
His ball striking was beyond compare. However, his putting was poor, by his own admission, and that would prevent him from grinding everyone today into the ground. He'd certainly hold his own, though.
@@johndickson9542 I agree, putting was his Achille's Heel. By 'grinding' I mean this. Hogan was frequently outdriven by his contemporaries. He ground them down by approach shots that put pressure on them. His consistency was the key to his success. It's very tricky to make generational comparisons. But I've an idea that with identical equipment, he would give any of today's players a tough time, especially in matchplay. If he had Jack or Tiger's putting game? Scary thought.
It's worth noting that Hogan's left eye was damaged in the car accident, hurting the depth perception necessary for good putting.
@@msalzberg4962 indeed. He had impaired vision and significant nerve damage in his hands. It's astounding how well he did after the accident.
@@FabrisFanatic Not to mention the constant pain in his legs.
And yet he won 6 of 7 tournaments he entered in 1953, including 3 majors. Astounding, indeed.
Amazing! YT wins!! I didn't know this existed. Ben Hogan is my hero!!!!
You’re welcome 😂
I miss this America
We all do class of 65.
Unbelievable match, The Hawk vs The Slammer.
such gentleman
I can’t even imagine hitting a 1-iron manufactured in 1960.
I have a few... not that hard to hit... but they do require a a fair amount of club head speed and strike accuracy
My hands are stinging with just the thought and I haven’t even tried it yet. I had a one iron back in my younger days but it’s full steam ahead with hybrids nowadays. Lol
@@Tom-ok2rh Can you imagine trying to hit that club on a cold day?
@@user-ok9ue8gp6k we call those mis hits when it’s cold “stingers”😄😄
I can’t hit a 3 iron now. Lol
beautiful, wonderful golfers
I didn’t know they had such long par 3’s… The ladies look lovely in this video
Hogan was THE master golfer and likely considered the greatest of All-Time if he didn't have that terrible car wreck. The man was a machine.
Didn't use steroids or blood spinning whatever they call it
9 of 16 majors that stretch with 6 majors after the wreck thats whats incredible
I'm a huge Hogan fan but I love Snead's tassled golf shoes!
Thank you for posting, I was wanting to see this since I was -5
You’re welcome
So much better than any of today’s you tubers it’s laughable.
These are two of the greatest ever...
For napping, definitely
Thanks for uploading this!!
You’re welcome!
This would be like playing with equipment from a thrift store 20 yrs ago. Amazing golf swings.
This is the equipment that should still be used today and then you would know how much of the distance is due to technology and how much is die the skill of the player. Current pros hitting 350 yard drives with the current club technology and juiced balls is like pro baseball players being allowed to use metal bats and then crowing about how far they hit it or how many homers they hit. Nobody would buy that as legitimate, yet in golf the powers that be have allowed technology to take over the game. Aaron Judge hits his 450’ bombs with a stick of wood just like Ruth & Gehrig did.
@@dorothygale1104 And to extrapolate further if I may, Ruth and Gehrig hit a ball that was a little different as well.
I keep hoping there will be an annual tournament just using vintage equipment like this, open to all the pro players. Call it the Vintage Open!
To say from a thrift store 20 years ago is being way too generous… lol
@@dorothygale1104 Exactly, it's ruined continuity within the game and many courses and the overall style of play (not to mention it looks cartoonish to see those big ass driver heads, they're like bumper bowling for golf). The metal drivers were first meant to be for women and the elderly so they could keep some pace with grown men - now we have the best of the grown men using models far easier to hit with than those meant to give worse players an advantage. It's a ridiculous situation which should never have happened.
Good quality thanks slicky micky
lol. You’re welcome
Thank you !
You’re welcome
Snead’s one iron is only useful on the kitchen table for us mere mortals.
12:50 lightning strikes twice.
Snead doesn’t even re-start his pre-shot routine. Just stripes it long and straight with a club that today would be size of a hybrid.
Green Distant Star's comment is spot on. William Ben Hogan is the greatest shotmaker in the history of golf. That includes Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, or any other player before or since!! What makes this clip so compelling is that Hogan, in this match, was absolutely brilliant. Even for Ben Hogan!! He hit every Fairway, Every Green. In doing so, his shots didn't vary 10 feet the entire day from the tee shot to the flag!! A true case study in the golfing genius of the "Wee Ice Mon." As the Scots referred to him. Even scarier is that Hogan in an average round was almost as good. Probably the most unbelievable golf stat I've ever heard is what Hogan accomplished in 1940, while winning three consecutive tournaments in North Carolina. In those 216 holes played, Hogan missed a total of two greens!! The average leader in GIR on the current tour is about 75 percent. How about 99 percent for Hogan?! What kept Jack and Tiger in the discussion for the greatest player was their superior putting. No one, NO ONE, controlled a golf ball like Ben Hogan. This great video is a timeless look at a genius like no other.
Moe Norman
Lee Trevino.
@scottreiber6879 We have to agree to disagree on this one. The Merry Mex was a solid number two. In the wonderful golf channel bio "Hogan" Trevino joked that "you had to turn sideways to see the flag because his golf ball covered it every time he hit it!! Their other similarity is in how rough they had it growing up. Trevino didn't have a home with electricity until he joined the Marines. Both outworked their peers in every way. "The greatest thing in golf is confidence," Trevino observed in Hogan. The more dirt you move, the more confidence you get." Both had another less fortunate similarity in their career. They both suffered terrible accidents. Hogan from a terrible car collision with a Greyhound bus. Trevino, decades later, was struck by lightning. It's easily the toughest pair ever to trod the links. Anytime. Anywhere.
Tiger had 2 car accidents. GOAT?
What a great upload. Even the music was great. Loved the intro with the neighborhoods and background info. I know it’s been said over and over, but their talent was unreal. That old equipment, 7000 yards,….they could handle it. Sure, it’s been mentioned almost cliche and I’m doing it here, but fun to imagine what these two men would do with todays equipment and technology. The best today would still be incredible if they were given this old equipment to mind you.
And don't forget the technology of golf course management and conditions too!
"Ben has hit his opening tee shot just a little bit right-to-left" 😄
Great video, how good were both swings!
Amazing how hard they have to hit those butts on those greens.
This head-to-head format would be nice to repeat with some of today's Senior golfers.
Shell is still around, too. They might sign on to be sponsor again.
Other than the Majors, I'm not too interested in the big 4-day tourneys anymore.
But I might watch a shorter one-day event like this, on youtube.
So damn cool!
Pure Class
Wow, Sam's putting stroke was wild
The grass on the greens in those days was probably longer than the grass on the fairways the pros play on today. There were a lot of 'wristy' putters. Here's Billy Casper, one of the best putters of his era: th-cam.com/video/mXDwxMXUpB0/w-d-xo.html
Now you can see why he went side saddle and even croquet style later on until they banned the croquet style. I never really noticed his putting stroke before but you are correct that shit is all over the place. I thought my stroke was bad. Lol
I love these old golf shoes. The fact remains if you cannot properly swing the club the results will quickly be shown. Jack also could hit a one iron.
SHELL, let's get this show back on the road. First up: Padraig Harrington Vs Phil Mickelson played at The RIV. I'm waiting ⏳😁
“Par 72 and it’s a long baby playing 7,056 yards”. 😊 The PGA at Valhalla this year is 7,609 yards and is a par 71. Amazing what technology and player fitness has done to the game. I like the old days better though. Skill and a good golf noggin was required more than in today’s game.
The avg driving distance on PGA Tour in 1980 was 256 yards and I am positive it was lower by at least 10 yards in the 1960’s. The avg driving distance on PGA tour is about 300 yards. And all clubs are going much further because of the ball on irons, fwy woods. And Hogan and Snead were 52 years old so they were playing a course that was considered long by 1964 PGA tour standards. The U.S. Open at Congressional was 7056 yards and was the longest US Open course up until 1964
Aside from a few people really training speed I think it's mostly the tech. It's not just that the drivers (especially) hit further, you can also swing like crazy because you dont have to really middle the ball in a smaller sweet spot. There may be some distance increase without the tech because of players working out, but I dont think it would be anything crazy. You've gotta remember both these guys were in their 50's at this point.
With that extra long intro about Houston you wonder if this is one of those shows where much of Gene's play by play commentary was edited out.
Even $3,000 back then was a LOT.
The Astrodome is NOT EVEN COMPLETED in this video! When i saw it, all i could think of was the smell of the hamburgers they sold there.
And yes, Slammin' Sammy has a swing that is unmistakable.
7,000 yards was long when you hit wooden drivers and irons that have a sweet spot the size of the tip of your little finger. I think i remember that the Colonial course in Ft. WORTH (Byron Nelson open) was 7200 in 65 and 7700 in 75.
The Colonial course is currently about 7300yds. The PGA tour is actually playing there next week. I don't think any course was 7700yds in 1975.
@@patrickdumass7611 I think you are correct, I thought about it afterwards. I know and watched an amateur who played in the pro-am in 79?. I just remember looking down some of the par 4s from the black tees... I hit it a long way back then, but man... 6 par 4s over 440 yards and a 585 yard and 635 yard par 5.
7000 yards with those clubs and balls, and in Houston's low elevation and high humidity. That course was playing LONG. Modern equivalent would likely be well over 8k.
2:22 RIP
Ben always looked stylish dressed simply in grey and white
I don't think the WWOG was ever televised in Australia.
I like the fore-caddies with the orange suits.....
I think it goes to show that you work with your natural swing. To me it looks like Hogan never takes a “full” backswing. It’s the speed coming forward that counts
Please post as many Shells as you have. Thanks.
I’m trying to get my hands on some more!
Agreed. They are an absolute delight. George Thomas is smooth. To anyone who knows, Gene knows the game inside out and we get to see some players who were regarded as the best in the 60s and were so good they are still regarded as the best 6 decades later . Sam played pretty well and Ben without even seeming to hole much best him by 3. 😊😂
Google "Ben Hogan 1 iron". Epic.
Lee Trevino, Bobby Nichols, and Jerry Heard were hit by lightning at the Western Open in Chicago.
When asked what he was doing after seeing lightning Mr. Trevino said he held up a 1 iron.
Why, doesn't that act like a lightning rod? Mr. Trevino replied, 'Not even God can hit a 1 iron.
7minutes in and still no golf shots
just wondering: why do they seem to hit every iron shot with an open clubface? new to golf. different from what i'm used to seeing
Would be great to see this without the screen being stretched to fit. They look 5ft tall and their swings look flatter than they were. Other videos of this match are the same unfortunately.
if it can be downloaded then played on VLC I'm sure a proper aspect ratio can be found. I'm not even sure I can watch this, Snead's body looks freakish.
5 grand in those days was a lot for a golf match. In tournaments, guys who made the cut for the weekend but finished at the bottom of the heap would take home less than $100 bucks.
Absolutely. One of the biggest changes since Tiger came along has been that mediocre players, who may never win in their careers can still become very rich men.
@@johncassani6780 Palmer did the same thing for golf back in the 60s to lift the top money higher back when $20,000 was a lot of money.
Yep. Jack Nicklaus cashed in $33.33 for a tie for 50th in 1962.
@@Tom-ok2rh Ya
Ya. Arnie helped the top end but not the bottom end.
Hogan peppers the flag more than Ian Baker Finch in the latter's scorcher when he won the Open. From his record, I guess that was pretty typical for Hogan. Makes it look so easy
7000 yards, that equipment and “those” trousers….. great stuff
I’ve seen Bill Price of Towson Maryland play a mechanically perfect game similar to Ben Hogan.
crazy how slow the greens seem
They were much slower, which in my opinion is a little better than today because they hold more irons, but there's a better in between. Probably about 80's era is optimum green speed in my opnion. Fast enough that good steady putting is rewarded, slow enough that you dont have to use crazy spin to keep shots on the green.
But remember it rained heavily during this match so greens were wet.
@@poocrayon4588 Thanks, POO CRAYON
It would be awesome to implement shot tracer to this video.
250+ yard drives on soft fairways and 190 yard 6 irons with those old clubs. I played with these kind of clubs when I was a kid in the 80's. Those 6 irons have the loft of today's 8 irons of course. I hit one drive 275 downhill when I was 15 and I thought I was headed to the PGA. How good were these guys? And how hard did they hit it? I would love to know if someone could find a way to estimate their club head speed. It had to be moving good to carry 250 with persimmons. Not to mention the old, wound golf balls. It also boggles my mind that modern players don't move their drives in both directions. Was Hogan that much more talented then them?
You could be sure both players in their prime would be as long as the top pros today, given the same equipment. Especially Snead. He absolutely crushed it in his youth.
Old drivers had a different weight distribution and characteristics that made it easier (and necessary) to work the ball. Balata balls spun like crazy not only on approaches but all the time. This helped a draw or a fade. Today with the giant heads it is almost impossible.
@@TheMightySandow Impossible to shape the ball with todays drivers? I beg to differ! You should see my slices haha
I played persimmon clubs back in the 70s which was only 10 years after this and I gotta believe they were hitting it past 250 yds. Today’s pros on a 7000 yd course would be driver wedge all day.
@@Clyde__Frog haha I agree..and I have to differ when they say the modern golf ball doesn’t curve that much. Sure curves for me. Lol
Commentators:
George Rogers & Gene Sazaren
Enjoy these matches so much. Have no interest in the game they play today.
I’d like to slip in a ProV1 without those guys knowing.
The equivalent course length today given the equipment advances should mean 8,000 yard courses regularly for the pros. 21 under winning a major (‘24 PGA) is a joke.
$5000.. 😳😳
How did Hogan have 255 to the green on the 1st hole when it was only 443 yards? And he hit a 6 iron 255? Something not right.
I think them guys were hitting it well past 250
Sneed
Here's the thing- Tiger Woods is indisputably the greatest golfer of All-Time. If I met him, I would say, "Tiger, keep firing!"
If I met Ben Hogan I would not say anything, unless spoken to. He is royalty. "Thank you, Mr. Hogan!" would be the only words I could muster.
Nicklaus is the GOAT.
@@johndickson9542 Yah, yah. My dad and I watched most of his career, together. He is my emotional GOAT. I have to be objective, and forget money. Ben Hogan is not 2x better than Nicklaus. He is just 2% better in my mind. Obviously, if you catch me on a Sunday, I might say Jack. ha,ha!
@@Redmenace96 Hogan is not even in contention.
When America wasn’t a shit hole
Hogan's pants look like long shorts😅
Ben and Sam had a side bet on who could jack up the waist of their pants higher. Sam won by a few inches.
255 off the tee. My how things have changed. Not necessarily for the better in my opinion. No such thing as driver, sand wedge into 400 yard par fours. This is back when golf was really great.
Definetly not for the better - 255 yards is a long way, more than long enough to hit a golf ball.
@@poocrayon4588 Yes back at that time those are considered long drives
@@davidshuff8838 Yeah - but I mean it's literally a long way. You walk 255 yards away and look back at the tee and that looks like a long way.
@@poocrayon4588 But by today’s standards, Some guys hit irons that far
@@davidshuff8838 Todays irons yes. But its still a long way anyway you slice it. It's a long distance to stand and look from point A to B from. If your hitting the ball so far you can barely see it land on every other club and have to walk 100 more miles to play, whats the point?
It's like using suped up metal baseball bats that hit the length of 2 stadiums then having to increase stadium size to play the same basic game, it's just so stupid that it reached this point.
Life will never be like this ever again, thank the Democrats from stripping us all of that dream.
So nice the Great Game back then. Everybody well dressed and behaved and none of this getting drunk and shouting get in the hole like the YANKS keep screaming today in their horrible slurry drunk accents.
Snead if healthy,l could of won 20 majors.
Oh wow
1965, when America was on the gold standard and had honest money that could not easily be corrupted and created for free, out of thin air, whilst other people have to work for it, thereby diluting the value of every dollar that they earn and own, thereby stealing the value of their life's work, effort and time from them. In 1971, that all changed and began the evil, thieving and corrupt fiat money standard. And look at America now! All roads lead to Bitcoin now. The most honest and incorruptible money that the World has ever had. That is inevitable.
Great golf game, terrible description of the god awful city of Houston.
Please tell me people didn’t dress like that!…bwahaha
Yes they did. People had class back then.
Also, nobody yelling stupid shit like, “Go in the hole” or “Baba Booey” or “ Mashed potato “ . People had class then and didn’t have to shout out stupid shit to make it all about themselves.
Some perspective: this was 59 years ago. From 1965 backward, that would make it 1906.
Do you think style changed a bit from 1906 to 1965?
They are playing golf not a fancy dress competition.
Ok......they didn't dress like that.
Note how putting technique has changed so much.