What I love about Chesterton and Lewis is that they perfectly illustrate that the best person to explain sanity is someone who understands and appreciates nonsense.
Oh did he? Your 'lord' is nothing but a figment of your imagination. Or can you provide objective verifiable evidence that 'He' drew you to his fallacious church? No? Thought so.
@@williamottilie5214 What are you afraid of ? If you truly believe that God is a figment of my imagination why are you giving it a moment of your time ?
Great talk! As I get older, I realize I'm becoming increasingly disgusted by modern man's estimation of himself and his "knowledge". I hope you'll interview Peter Kreeft one day, Brian. That will be fascinating, too.
Great discussion. I agree with your guest that bigotry against Christians is now the last “acceptable” form of prejudice. I recently got into a debate about physics with two atheists and when they couldn’t win on the facts, the insults on my beliefs started. I am converting from non-denominational Protestant to Catholicism and this channel has been extremely helpful in my journey. Keep up the great work!
Really like Joseph Pearce's work. Very readable. I never thought I would read a thick book like "the Literary Convert", but it's so readable and relatable, I highly recommend it.
Thank You, a wonderful discussion. I particularly love CS Lewis, he is truly a Christian Mystic. One of my favourite Christian mystical poems is Four Quartets by TS Eliot. Reading it always brings me to tears. I wonder if you could talk about that sometime as this poem took me deeper into the Christian faith just like CS Lewis did. After watching this talk I’m going to buy ‘CS Lewis and the Catholic Church’. Thanks again from a Catholic who loves CS Lewis (& TS Eliot) 😊🙏✝️
This was aaaawsome. I love listening to talks about those three and Pierce is a very knowledgeable man on that topic. Great show. Enyojed it a lot. Keep it up. Godbless.
I would like to say that I think it's a mistake to assume modern art is seeking to communicate beauty, I think modern art is seeking to communicate the ideas of the artist, to "make a point".
Tolkien disliked allegory because he didn't like writers who tried to make strict analogies to Christian concepts. All analogies have a bit of falseness no matter how well you make them. Tolkien preferred to paint the similarities with a broader brush. He wanted characters and incidents to be "applicable" to Christian concepts rather than trying to make exact analogies. Frodo's journey to Mount Doom reflects the journey of Christ to Calvary. Sam reflects faith and the power of faith to perservere to the end. When Frodo can't go on, his faith, Sam, says that he will carry him. Aragorn is applicable to the concept of Christ the King. His coming i s heralded in the blooming of the the White Tree as Christ was described as a shoot from the Tree of Jesse. Aragorn heals the wounds caused by the Wring Wraiths, a proof that he is the true king. Gandalf fights the Balrog, dies descends in to Hell and is resurrected, transformed into the white wizard. His followers encounter him in his resurrected form and don't immediately recognize him. Tolkien's writing is like medieval religious art: full of fantastic beasts and characters, some of which are drawn from old pagan tales and recast to reflect Chritian concepts.
Looking forward to this one, though I'm not sure Rowling belongs in the same universe as the other two, Lewis was always great but Chesterton, though also great, did elaborate far too much for me. It's good to explain an idea to aid understanding but he had so many examples, the reader starts to get the point but then just ends up confused in the obscurity of it all. Feel like Tim Pool has a lot of Chesterton influence as he often verges on underpinning his point with one example too many.
100% agree with this, Chesterton made so many "aha" astute points that are underpinned by far too many examples...see the Tim Pool comparison too haha at least Pool has the excuse of all the woke "fact checkers" but.
Dr. Paul Vitz developed a quite viable psychological model for atheism. If you haven't read "Faith of the Fatherless," do yourself a favor and get a copy.
I'm really enjoying these discussions on Tolkien's Catholicism . So much to look into. PS I love how Americans still have 1970's hair. I wish I still did. th-cam.com/video/tm_KZSYSiGc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WNEC_G9QFs1lohgU
The Gebirah גְּבִירָה Who is this woman with a crown that sits upon a throne? Why does the king bow down to her when He is king alone? His kingdom is her footstool as He now sits beside the mother of the Lamb of God, His Holy Spirit's bride Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is there beside the lovely Gebirah the fairest of the fair The thrones on earth have fallen down The kings have all been slain A man of all perdition comes to clamp us all in chains Oh queen come back to bind him Restore the Katechon Our Lady Help of Christians come down from the great beyond with glory all around her She's clothed with the Sun Twelve stars adorn her diadem from the only begotten one Two angels bow before the arc the seat of mercy sure Oh Mary thou art beautiful the purest of the pure by Patrick Fealy
41:28 I'd say man made the mythology, even if the gods are literally demons. CS Lewis's real case against paganism I believe is the four loves, he shows that letting nature become a god to you will result in no good. Take Zues for example, Zues embodies ideas of power and kingly and fatherly masculinity, what we would today call patriarchal, and these things can be good, but they can also have a dark side, Zues often acts tyrannically in the mythology even raping human women, in Stanley Kubrick's the shining for example the idea of the man as ruler of the family and his ideas of his own importance and his own authority leads the father to become entitled twords his family until he attempts to murder his own wife and child and nearly succeeds. Like saint Paul said, the pagan gods are made in the image of *curuptible* man, fallen man is not absolutely depraved in everyway, but even the best of us are not perfect.
What I love about Chesterton and Lewis is that they perfectly illustrate that the best person to explain sanity is someone who understands and appreciates nonsense.
Reading you comment, the way I would phrase it is that this is what a child's mind grown up properly looks like.
I am overwhelmed with gratitude that Our Lord has drawn me back to His Church , His Mass and Our Brothers .♥️
Oh did he? Your 'lord' is nothing but a figment of your imagination.
Or can you provide objective verifiable evidence that 'He' drew you to his fallacious church?
No? Thought so.
@@williamottilie5214
What are you afraid of ?
If you truly believe that God is a figment of my imagination why are you giving it a moment of your time ?
Two of my favorite people talking about three of favorite authors!!!
Great talk! As I get older, I realize I'm becoming increasingly disgusted by modern man's estimation of himself and his "knowledge". I hope you'll interview Peter Kreeft one day, Brian. That will be fascinating, too.
“ Ultimately, art is the giving back to the Giver of Gifts the fruits of the gifts given.”
Wow.
Tolkein, Lewis, Chesterton, Pearce, all in one package?
This get's an instant "thumbs-up" ! ! !
Having Brian talk over Joseph Pearce was a little jolting. Lovely conversation.
Great discussion. I agree with your guest that bigotry against Christians is now the last “acceptable” form of prejudice. I recently got into a debate about physics with two atheists and when they couldn’t win on the facts, the insults on my beliefs started.
I am converting from non-denominational Protestant to Catholicism and this channel has been extremely helpful in my journey. Keep up the great work!
Any time I see Joseph Pearce on TH-cam, I stop scrolling and I listen...both for content and for his peaceful voice! God bless you both.
Joseph's talk on TH-cam "Unlocking the Catholicism of Lord of the Rings" blew my mind! I immediately bought his books on the subject after that
Weird, I watched it two days ago
i saw that presentation years ago in nashville
I don’t know yet what you’re going to say Brian, but these names will always arrest my attention.
Really like Joseph Pearce's work. Very readable. I never thought I would read a thick book like "the Literary Convert", but it's so readable and relatable, I highly recommend it.
Okay, I will try it.
Joseph Pearce is the greatest Contemporary author! you should do an episode on the Catholicism of Shakespeare with him!
I’m not a literary person but I did enjoy this topic!! Thank you for enlightening me!!
WOW! One of my favourite TH-camrs and one of my favourite writers talking about three of my favourite authors! Who could ask for anything more?
JOSEPH PEARCE!!!! This... is a big deal. He is one of the Catholic treasures of our time!
Yes.!
Did he ever think he would be in his earlier life?
@@Kitiwake nope, no one could imagine it
Great interview.
This was one of my favorites, thank you for having Joseph on.
Thank You, a wonderful discussion. I particularly love CS Lewis, he is truly a Christian Mystic. One of my favourite Christian mystical poems is Four Quartets by TS Eliot. Reading it always brings me to tears. I wonder if you could talk about that sometime as this poem took me deeper into the Christian faith just like CS Lewis did. After watching this talk I’m going to buy ‘CS Lewis and the Catholic Church’. Thanks again from a Catholic who loves CS Lewis (& TS Eliot) 😊🙏✝️
Wonderful conversation... thank you for posting it.
40:08 great analogy between pagans and neo-pagans.
This was aaaawsome. I love listening to talks about those three and Pierce is a very knowledgeable man on that topic. Great show. Enyojed it a lot. Keep it up. Godbless.
I love these three authors. They have been very formative for me. Thank you for this talk.
A great conversation!
I had a research project on CS Lewis and Purgatory and cited a lot of Pearce's work! This is awesome!
I really enjoy your interviews.
I would like to say that I think it's a mistake to assume modern art is seeking to communicate beauty, I think modern art is seeking to communicate the ideas of the artist, to "make a point".
I wish I had been challenged as a teenager to read beyond Dickens and Tom Clancy!
Nailed it when he mentioned zeitgeist. Excellent interview.
3 Hail Marys for each of you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻📿✝️
Read Gene Wolfes Book of the New Sun and Christopher Ruocchio Sun Eater Series for science fiction catholic writers
Wolfe is one of the greatest authors of the last 100yrs. He was a big GKC and JRRT fan.
As the late Stan Lee oft exclaimed in ink; "Excelsior!".
Great interview, great subject matter, great guest....great episode.
The point about the zeitgeist is so apt. I see it all the time. Like people obsessed with keeping up with trends don't believe in timeless things.
This array of names? guarantees a feast of good thought with style!
I agree. He did explain in the intro that there was a delay that caused his responses to record sooner so it sounds like he's interrupting.
Tolkien disliked allegory because he didn't like writers who tried to make strict analogies to Christian concepts. All analogies have a bit of falseness no matter how well you make them. Tolkien preferred to paint the similarities with a broader brush. He wanted characters and incidents to be "applicable" to Christian concepts rather than trying to make exact analogies.
Frodo's journey to Mount Doom reflects the journey of Christ to Calvary. Sam reflects faith and the power of faith to perservere to the end. When Frodo can't go on, his faith, Sam, says that he will carry him. Aragorn is applicable to the concept of Christ the King. His coming i s heralded in the blooming of the the White Tree as Christ was described as a shoot from the Tree of Jesse. Aragorn heals the wounds caused by the Wring Wraiths, a proof that he is the true king. Gandalf fights the Balrog, dies descends in to Hell and is resurrected, transformed into the white wizard. His followers encounter him in his resurrected form and don't immediately recognize him.
Tolkien's writing is like medieval religious art: full of fantastic beasts and characters, some of which are drawn from old pagan tales and recast to reflect Chritian concepts.
Looking forward to this one, though I'm not sure Rowling belongs in the same universe as the other two, Lewis was always great but Chesterton, though also great, did elaborate far too much for me. It's good to explain an idea to aid understanding but he had so many examples, the reader starts to get the point but then just ends up confused in the obscurity of it all. Feel like Tim Pool has a lot of Chesterton influence as he often verges on underpinning his point with one example too many.
100% agree with this, Chesterton made so many "aha" astute points that are underpinned by far too many examples...see the Tim Pool comparison too haha at least Pool has the excuse of all the woke "fact checkers" but.
I do have a lot of CS Lewis books. Plus Tolkien. And Charles Williams. And George MacDonald. Real books that point to Christ.
Dr. Paul Vitz developed a quite viable psychological model for atheism. If you haven't read "Faith of the Fatherless," do yourself a favor and get a copy.
Fr. James Altman mentioned that book in one of his videos.
Everyone leaves out Hilaire Belloc. Why?
39:51 Timestamp
I'm really enjoying these discussions on Tolkien's Catholicism . So much to look into.
PS I love how Americans still have 1970's hair. I wish I still did.
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I wouldn't really say they hate God. More likely they hate their idea of God.
The Gebirah גְּבִירָה
Who is this woman with a crown
that sits upon a throne?
Why does the king bow down to her
when He is king alone?
His kingdom is her footstool
as He now sits beside
the mother of the Lamb of God,
His Holy Spirit's bride
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done
on earth as it is there
beside the lovely Gebirah
the fairest of the fair
The thrones on earth have fallen down
The kings have all been slain
A man of all perdition comes
to clamp us all in chains
Oh queen come back to bind him
Restore the Katechon
Our Lady Help of Christians come
down from the great beyond
with glory all around her
She's clothed with the Sun
Twelve stars adorn her diadem
from the only begotten one
Two angels bow before the arc
the seat of mercy sure
Oh Mary thou art beautiful
the purest of the pure
by Patrick Fealy
Hello
41:28 I'd say man made the mythology, even if the gods are literally demons. CS Lewis's real case against paganism I believe is the four loves, he shows that letting nature become a god to you will result in no good.
Take Zues for example, Zues embodies ideas of power and kingly and fatherly masculinity, what we would today call patriarchal, and these things can be good, but they can also have a dark side, Zues often acts tyrannically in the mythology even raping human women, in Stanley Kubrick's the shining for example the idea of the man as ruler of the family and his ideas of his own importance and his own authority leads the father to become entitled twords his family until he attempts to murder his own wife and child and nearly succeeds.
Like saint Paul said, the pagan gods are made in the image of *curuptible* man, fallen man is not absolutely depraved in everyway, but even the best of us are not perfect.