Joseph Pearce on Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and G.K Chesterton

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    Joseph Pearce's enthusiasm for the Catholic faith and some of the great writers who incarnate it for us is contagious. I was fortunate enough to hear him speak early on in my faith journey and I have no doubt that he helped plant those seeds much deeper so that they would persevere. It was a joy to speak with him about great authors such as C.S. Lewis, J.R.R Tolkien, and G.K. Chesterton. We discussed literature, culture, art, and the liturgy.

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  • @RandaEd
    @RandaEd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    What I love about Chesterton and Lewis is that they perfectly illustrate that the best person to explain sanity is someone who understands and appreciates nonsense.

    • @intedominesperavi6036
      @intedominesperavi6036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reading you comment, the way I would phrase it is that this is what a child's mind grown up properly looks like.

  • @sarahlandry826
    @sarahlandry826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Two of my favorite people talking about three of favorite authors!!!

  • @francishaight2062
    @francishaight2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Great talk! As I get older, I realize I'm becoming increasingly disgusted by modern man's estimation of himself and his "knowledge". I hope you'll interview Peter Kreeft one day, Brian. That will be fascinating, too.

  • @anonymoush9418
    @anonymoush9418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “ Ultimately, art is the giving back to the Giver of Gifts the fruits of the gifts given.”
    Wow.

  • @alhilford2345
    @alhilford2345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tolkein, Lewis, Chesterton, Pearce, all in one package?
    This get's an instant "thumbs-up" ! ! !

  • @VirgoBirrane
    @VirgoBirrane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Joseph's talk on TH-cam "Unlocking the Catholicism of Lord of the Rings" blew my mind! I immediately bought his books on the subject after that

    • @Fortunatus144
      @Fortunatus144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weird, I watched it two days ago

    • @clydeallen738
      @clydeallen738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i saw that presentation years ago in nashville

  • @jackieann5494
    @jackieann5494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I am overwhelmed with gratitude that Our Lord has drawn me back to His Church , His Mass and Our Brothers .♥️

    • @williamottilie5214
      @williamottilie5214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh did he? Your 'lord' is nothing but a figment of your imagination.
      Or can you provide objective verifiable evidence that 'He' drew you to his fallacious church?
      No? Thought so.

    • @jackieann5494
      @jackieann5494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamottilie5214
      What are you afraid of ?
      If you truly believe that God is a figment of my imagination why are you giving it a moment of your time ?

  • @oambitiousone7100
    @oambitiousone7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don’t know yet what you’re going to say Brian, but these names will always arrest my attention.

  • @reginasmith3149
    @reginasmith3149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Any time I see Joseph Pearce on TH-cam, I stop scrolling and I listen...both for content and for his peaceful voice! God bless you both.

  • @sadiepeterson9796
    @sadiepeterson9796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having Brian talk over Joseph Pearce was a little jolting. Lovely conversation.

  • @h.p6016
    @h.p6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Joseph Pearce is the greatest Contemporary author! you should do an episode on the Catholicism of Shakespeare with him!

  • @dezericka
    @dezericka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m not a literary person but I did enjoy this topic!! Thank you for enlightening me!!

  • @maybudha
    @maybudha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Really like Joseph Pearce's work. Very readable. I never thought I would read a thick book like "the Literary Convert", but it's so readable and relatable, I highly recommend it.

  • @danieleugenewilliams
    @danieleugenewilliams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great discussion. I agree with your guest that bigotry against Christians is now the last “acceptable” form of prejudice. I recently got into a debate about physics with two atheists and when they couldn’t win on the facts, the insults on my beliefs started.
    I am converting from non-denominational Protestant to Catholicism and this channel has been extremely helpful in my journey. Keep up the great work!

  • @liraco_mx
    @liraco_mx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    40:08 great analogy between pagans and neo-pagans.

  • @daviecrocketfromzim6766
    @daviecrocketfromzim6766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish I had been challenged as a teenager to read beyond Dickens and Tom Clancy!

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WOW! One of my favourite TH-camrs and one of my favourite writers talking about three of my favourite authors! Who could ask for anything more?

  • @tomislavbrncic7337
    @tomislavbrncic7337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was aaaawsome. I love listening to talks about those three and Pierce is a very knowledgeable man on that topic. Great show. Enyojed it a lot. Keep it up. Godbless.

  • @MrSottobanco
    @MrSottobanco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview.

  • @markgriffiths5289
    @markgriffiths5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank You, a wonderful discussion. I particularly love CS Lewis, he is truly a Christian Mystic. One of my favourite Christian mystical poems is Four Quartets by TS Eliot. Reading it always brings me to tears. I wonder if you could talk about that sometime as this poem took me deeper into the Christian faith just like CS Lewis did. After watching this talk I’m going to buy ‘CS Lewis and the Catholic Church’. Thanks again from a Catholic who loves CS Lewis (& TS Eliot) 😊🙏✝️

  • @christophersnedeker2065
    @christophersnedeker2065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to say that I think it's a mistake to assume modern art is seeking to communicate beauty, I think modern art is seeking to communicate the ideas of the artist, to "make a point".

  • @marilynmelzian7370
    @marilynmelzian7370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these three authors. They have been very formative for me. Thank you for this talk.

  • @danutabailey986
    @danutabailey986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful conversation... thank you for posting it.

  • @suzinshaw8443
    @suzinshaw8443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was one of my favorites, thank you for having Joseph on.

  • @LifeWithFlowers
    @LifeWithFlowers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy your interviews.

  • @carolinejudith1718
    @carolinejudith1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a research project on CS Lewis and Purgatory and cited a lot of Pearce's work! This is awesome!

  • @dylangous
    @dylangous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great conversation!

  • @b.melakail
    @b.melakail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Read Gene Wolfes Book of the New Sun and Christopher Ruocchio Sun Eater Series for science fiction catholic writers

    • @SEKreiver
      @SEKreiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wolfe is one of the greatest authors of the last 100yrs. He was a big GKC and JRRT fan.

  • @kimfleury
    @kimfleury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3 Hail Marys for each of you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻📿✝️

  • @kenvee9446
    @kenvee9446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the late Stan Lee oft exclaimed in ink; "Excelsior!".
    Great interview, great subject matter, great guest....great episode.

  • @mistermusik
    @mistermusik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nailed it when he mentioned zeitgeist. Excellent interview.

  • @crusadereducation8545
    @crusadereducation8545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    JOSEPH PEARCE!!!! This... is a big deal. He is one of the Catholic treasures of our time!

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.!
      Did he ever think he would be in his earlier life?

    • @crusadereducation8545
      @crusadereducation8545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kitiwake nope, no one could imagine it

  • @AjaxNixon
    @AjaxNixon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The point about the zeitgeist is so apt. I see it all the time. Like people obsessed with keeping up with trends don't believe in timeless things.

  • @martinzies2874
    @martinzies2874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to this one, though I'm not sure Rowling belongs in the same universe as the other two, Lewis was always great but Chesterton, though also great, did elaborate far too much for me. It's good to explain an idea to aid understanding but he had so many examples, the reader starts to get the point but then just ends up confused in the obscurity of it all. Feel like Tim Pool has a lot of Chesterton influence as he often verges on underpinning his point with one example too many.

    • @forearmsmcgee
      @forearmsmcgee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% agree with this, Chesterton made so many "aha" astute points that are underpinned by far too many examples...see the Tim Pool comparison too haha at least Pool has the excuse of all the woke "fact checkers" but.

  • @LivingWatersUtube
    @LivingWatersUtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This array of names? guarantees a feast of good thought with style!

    • @vkbowers
      @vkbowers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. He did explain in the intro that there was a delay that caused his responses to record sooner so it sounds like he's interrupting.

  • @aliasreco
    @aliasreco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do have a lot of CS Lewis books. Plus Tolkien. And Charles Williams. And George MacDonald. Real books that point to Christ.

  • @neosporran
    @neosporran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Paul Vitz developed a quite viable psychological model for atheism. If you haven't read "Faith of the Fatherless," do yourself a favor and get a copy.

    • @julieelizabeth4856
      @julieelizabeth4856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr. James Altman mentioned that book in one of his videos.

  • @rexfort
    @rexfort 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tolkien disliked allegory because he didn't like writers who tried to make strict analogies to Christian concepts. All analogies have a bit of falseness no matter how well you make them. Tolkien preferred to paint the similarities with a broader brush. He wanted characters and incidents to be "applicable" to Christian concepts rather than trying to make exact analogies.
    Frodo's journey to Mount Doom reflects the journey of Christ to Calvary. Sam reflects faith and the power of faith to perservere to the end. When Frodo can't go on, his faith, Sam, says that he will carry him. Aragorn is applicable to the concept of Christ the King. His coming i s heralded in the blooming of the the White Tree as Christ was described as a shoot from the Tree of Jesse. Aragorn heals the wounds caused by the Wring Wraiths, a proof that he is the true king. Gandalf fights the Balrog, dies descends in to Hell and is resurrected, transformed into the white wizard. His followers encounter him in his resurrected form and don't immediately recognize him.
    Tolkien's writing is like medieval religious art: full of fantastic beasts and characters, some of which are drawn from old pagan tales and recast to reflect Chritian concepts.

  • @eleveneleven572
    @eleveneleven572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really enjoying these discussions on Tolkien's Catholicism . So much to look into.
    PS I love how Americans still have 1970's hair. I wish I still did.
    th-cam.com/video/tm_KZSYSiGc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WNEC_G9QFs1lohgU

  • @Chordus_Gaius
    @Chordus_Gaius 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    39:51 Timestamp

  • @CoastalReaction
    @CoastalReaction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone leaves out Hilaire Belloc. Why?

  • @Butteredthanatoast
    @Butteredthanatoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello

  • @uncatila
    @uncatila 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Gebirah גְּבִירָה
    Who is this woman with a crown
    that sits upon a throne?
    Why does the king bow down to her
    when He is king alone?
    His kingdom is her footstool
    as He now sits beside
    the mother of the Lamb of God,
    His Holy Spirit's bride
    Thy kingdom come
    Thy will be done
    on earth as it is there
    beside the lovely Gebirah
    the fairest of the fair
    The thrones on earth have fallen down
    The kings have all been slain
    A man of all perdition comes
    to clamp us all in chains
    Oh queen come back to bind him
    Restore the Katechon
    Our Lady Help of Christians come
    down from the great beyond
    with glory all around her
    She's clothed with the Sun
    Twelve stars adorn her diadem
    from the only begotten one
    Two angels bow before the arc
    the seat of mercy sure
    Oh Mary thou art beautiful
    the purest of the pure
    by Patrick Fealy

  • @christophersnedeker
    @christophersnedeker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't really say they hate God. More likely they hate their idea of God.

  • @christophersnedeker2065
    @christophersnedeker2065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    41:28 I'd say man made the mythology, even if the gods are literally demons. CS Lewis's real case against paganism I believe is the four loves, he shows that letting nature become a god to you will result in no good.
    Take Zues for example, Zues embodies ideas of power and kingly and fatherly masculinity, what we would today call patriarchal, and these things can be good, but they can also have a dark side, Zues often acts tyrannically in the mythology even raping human women, in Stanley Kubrick's the shining for example the idea of the man as ruler of the family and his ideas of his own importance and his own authority leads the father to become entitled twords his family until he attempts to murder his own wife and child and nearly succeeds.
    Like saint Paul said, the pagan gods are made in the image of *curuptible* man, fallen man is not absolutely depraved in everyway, but even the best of us are not perfect.