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Nice to hear someone say they respect Richmond rolling the dice for another premiership, I have always felt the same with WC trading a premium for Kelly. Premierships are so bloody hard to win, you have to capitalise as much as you can.
Exactly. What's the risk really, it's just an extra year or 2 at the bottom while you get a decent chance at another premiership. A club would be insane not to do it
I'm a tigers fan and I'm pretty chill with whatever decision we go (that's the benefit of recent premiership success talking lol) though I'd definitely lean towards the aggressive rebuild approach. I love Rioli, Bolton, Baker and Graham - multiple premierships between them but the reality is if their heart isn't in sticking around, we're better off moving them on and getting what we can for them. With a strong negotiating position as you allude to in the video, we can package up multiple picks to other clubs in needs of points to move us up the order or get more top end picks before Tasmania come into future drafts. It's also why the Taranto and Hopper deals were IMO crucial as they will be able to help bolster the midfield for the youngsters with the departures of Cotchin, Martin, Prestia, McIntosh, Pickett (either gone or probably all within the next season or two) looming. We also appointed Chris Toce who did wonders at St Kilda as our recruiting boss earlier this year so I'd feel confident with him and his team making some good selections. fwiw, I don't think the future is too bleak for us either (again, maybe that' the post premiership optimism) - we've had a shocking injury run this year so it's been hard for Yze to get a good run at things but we've generally been competitive in most games while playing many inexperienced youngsters. Our cap space will also look pretty nice with so many retirements or outgoings (including Dusty's big bucks) that we can potentially be active in the free agency market in years to come - or potentially take on players from other club's needing a bit of cap relief should there be any bargains to be had.
Good to see you are still going strong. As you may remember, I am a Richmond Supporter for 57 years. A good video and want to add and confirm. The Tigers are due for a big clean out: both on the field and off the field. Arguably the biggest in a long time. It's time YZE had his own team, and this draft its time to let players go, if they don't want to be there. His own team, clean air and lets see if can coach and most importantly develop young talent. Tassie is coming, and remember our CEO is leading that charge. Therefore timing is now! As many draft pick, high as possible, combine the points (as that system is changing also) retire players, develop and play the young guns. Take a leaf out of Mitchell's (Hawthorn's) book (Short term pain for longer gain). Forever loyal, since the day Royce, tore the heart out of Geelong in 1967..... And finally, i always remember the AFL is Australia's most popular reality TV show, with the Tigers often, and rightly so, casted as the villains.
Thanks Harry. So you favour a pretty aggressive approach, I hope it happens purely for the entertainment factor! Try not to strengthen the purple mob too much though please...
I think it was the last H&A round in 2015 that Geelong played Adelaide. Dangerfield was linked to a trade to Geelong so when he took a mark late in the last quarter, the whole crowd cheered him as if he was their favourite player ever. I would love to see GC treat Daniel Rioli to a similar welcome/invite.
If I'm Richmond though, I would learn from the Eagles and committ strongly to the rebuild now, they've got players in decent form atleast that will have some capital.
Also have to learn from north and not gut the list and get stuck in purgatory for ages. There's a sweet spot that I think Hawthorn committed to once they got rid of clarko and brought in Mitchell that I think we need to follow.
@@sov839 sure, but you do need to factor in the Tasmania Devils coming in soon and the compromised drafts that will surely follow. Might be best to rip the bandaid off nice and fast and get through the agony quickly.
They should definitely look at North and what they have done and learn from their failings. As a North fan, watching us try to load up again after our 2 prelims around 2016, have that not work, then have a couple of terrible drafts resulting in us clean out a list made the last 6-8 years pretty difficult. But then After 2 years of really targeting multiple early first round picks we are starting to turn a corner. For the first time in years, we probably don't need our first pick to be so high for the coming draft. It seems like West Coast hasn't gone to their draft as much as they should have so maybe it's best to aim for 3-5 top picks over 2-3 drafts. Keep up the good content.
ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT the help and free picks you were given from the AFL if the tigers asked for help they would be laughed at. they are still celebrating their 3 premierships ( should of been 4) so supporters do not care if they lose players and looking forward to the rebuild
as a Richmond fan i have really been skeptical with the idea of trading Rioli and Bolton because they are so good for us but in a lot of ways i haven't even considered how much that potentially trading those guys could help us especially with having a new coach, i still don't want to loose these players but Tasmania is right around the corner and that will have a effect on our ability to rebuild so maybe this would be a good thing and do it now so by the time Tasmania enter the competition we will be towards the end of our rebuild (fingers crossed) where as if we didn't take the risk we would be stuck in the middle of a few very compromised drafts which could mean we don't come out of the rebuild till 2030 if not later so though i am not completely for this idea maybe we should bite the bullet and hope that we come out the other side in one peace. i appreciate you making this video and i have to admit I'm looking forward to the possibilities that could come from the off season now I've seen the other side to all this noise and i understand that this is only hypothetical but i am at least more open to this possibility.
This was a good video. It’d be cool did you did something similar for the other bottom teams. I like your Richmond deals except I would try and get some picks for next year. Try to sign some vets to help the draftees.
I did a bit of research on our draft possibilities, and also used some other twitter sources to get a better understanding (shoutout @CameronHicks__) and here's essentially where Richmond's draft haul could lead Pick 1 - Josh Smilie/Jagga Smith - I tend to see us going for Jagga since he's a richmond kid and Smillie has had a quiet back end do his "draft audition" Pick 8 via Freo - Sam Lalor - Mid/Fwd that's more like Petracca than recent prospects I've seen Pick 11 via Freo - Jonty Faull - Addresses the Key Fwd stocks. Obviously there's Lynch Kozzy Lefau and Fawcett, but we need a genuine young KPF that shows draft talent, and Faull could be the one Pick 14 via WCE - Joe Berry - Crafty Small however I do think there is some flexibility in who we'd target depending on how players slide and which needs clubs like Melbourne and North address. Pick 16 via Freo - Tobie Travaglia - bigger bodied HB/Wing that could get in the squad early and really challenge the current younger players in those positions like Trezise and Banks. Pick 21 - Alixzander Tauru - I think he's ~193cm and loves to fly in the backline. I could also see us taking Harrison Oliver to replace the loss of Rioli if we need to, considering our KPD stocks include Gibcus Balta Blight Young and Miller. That is a massive, elite draft haul. then the question becomes does richmond want to trade 21 and 16 for a pick between 10-13 to secure a player like Harry Armstrong or Jack Whitlock instead so we bring in 2 KPF's in 1 draft. There's so many options. Outgoings that will lead to picks, assuming we dont stagger our departures over 2 years so that we can control the list blowout include; (this includes rumoured deals, not my opinion on their worth) Shai Bolton - 8 and 16 (plus we send a 2nd round pick swap their way) Baker - 1st rounder from WCE assuming they split, or we give them baker and 16 for pick 3 (again rumour) Jack Graham - 4 year deal from WCE could lead to an end of first or early 2nd round pick Dan Rioli - GC pick 6 and 12 for Rioli plus some garbage picks for points so they can get Leo Lombard as an academy selection. For me I'd rather stagger the departures to a degree, even if that means we hold onto Rioli for an extra year so we have premiership experience across 3 lines (grimes and dusty retirements further remove that experience). However Tassie around the corner may force our hand. The positive to this is the teams that want our players have a load of picks and are pushing for a strong premiership push over the next few years (Freo 3 first rounders and are pushing for top 4, GC should be pushing for top 8 next season and a flag the season after that). We're able to force teams to pay overs since Bolton and Rioli are contracted. Fortunately we still have Neil Balme and Blair Hartley to facilitate this draft. Balme leaves at the end of the year so it's crucial we make the right calls and get this done before tassie. The last thing you want is to rely on the draft like that. We've rebuilt through the expansion clubs once and it was fruitful, but lightning won't strike twice. If we can nail that down, then we can focus on rounding out supporting players which typically you can find pretty easily as long as your core is strong. Perfect example is GWS bringing in bedford for nothing, or sydney getting Adams Grundy and Jordon for cheap, just to name some basic and recent examples.
With Jack Graham heavily linked to West Coast, tend to make me think Liam Baker is going to Eagles as they are close mates. If I was WC Bolton should be more of a target, can play midfield, kick goals and goal assists . I think it’s worth noting Bolton & Baker visited WC together during bye round.
Very comprehensive analysis, love it. As a Tigers fan, the idea of us cutting really deep to maximise draft picks excites me and would set us up nicely, particularly with Tas compromising future drafts. The only player of that crop I’ll really miss is Rioli. Bolton can be brilliant but is flaky and looks unmotivated in a poor team. Baker has come off recently too
Fantastic analysis, I think you are 100% correct, just not sure that Richmond has the fortitude to get rid of some of their stars and should probably keep some to give the youth some guidance and mentors. Unfortunately no compensation for Dusty. Keep up the awesome work 💛💙🦅🏆
I’m not a Richmond supporter (my misses is), and I would love to see this happen. You said North don’t have a father son this year? River Stevens is the son of North great Anthony Stevens. He’ll more then likely go around mid to late third round of the draft, much like Jackson Archer did
They really should go hard at the draft or it is difficult to see how they improve the list once the Apples come in. The possible trades you mentioned have currency. Another year or two for Bolton and co in a cellar dweller list and their trade value declines I reckon. The other big thing is that this draft is looking great for a rebuilding list. Sell the farm and go shopping.
6 and 14 certainly sounds appealing from a North perspective! Certainly from a list building perspective. It's a hard reset by Richmond IMO. Trade it out now and snag what FA you can to instill a foundation of youth and experience that can get those green shoots going.
The biggest thing that is coming for Richmond next year is actually outside the draft and trades. With 5 key position players including a top 10 draft pick having endured ACLs and the best power forward in the league missing most of the year yes we may have a bumper draft haul but the list of available players in 2025 will be completely different to 2024.
As a Richmond supporter this hypothetical excites me for the future. However im very concerned about the possibility of a lack of leadership which could lead to poor development of these future players. I think we cash in on Bolton whilst we're gonna get overs for him, but i think we have to do everything in our power to keep one of, baker or rioli, to teach the next wave of players. Jagga Smith seems like the perfect Richmond man, so i do think we go with him pick 1, unless Finn O'Sullivan shows a lot this week playing in our VFL side. Trading 6 and 14 for North's pick 2, ajd having pick 1 and 2 would be perfect i reckon.
@@jeremyholland4 you could always look to explore free agency as you go forward to bring in experience, but bank draft picks this year, given Tasmania.
they were saying picks 10 and 16 for baker and same for Bolton round 2 pick for graham and 2 first rounders for Rioli 2 of these will be future picks need to go hard top players out there go deep up till 40
As a die hard Richmond fan we need to rebuild it is honestly boring to watch and I’d rather see a group of young kids develop rather than finish in no man’s land for the next 20 years again. Bolton is inconsistent and painful to watch these days with his goal kicking. Rioli and Baker would hurt but is what it is to get in talent. I would say getting top 10 picks isn’t that important in this years draft with the depth so delist a heap of players and get in youth see below for my optimistic outlook Pick 1: Josh Smilie - Mid - Pat Cripps/Petracca Pick 8: Sam Lalor - Mid - Dusty clone Pick 12: Tobie Travaglia - Half Back - Will Day Pick 14: Harry Armstrong - Full Forward - Van Rooyen Pick 16: Xavier Lindsay - Half back - Luke Hodge Pick 20: Alexander Tairu - CHB - Jake Lever Pick 22: Joe Berry - Small Forward - Mark LeCras Pick 24: Jobe Shanahan - Tall Forward - Aaron Naughton Own picks: 1 and 22 Gold Cost picks: 8 and 20 for Rioli Fremantle picks: 12, 14, 16 and 24 for Baker and Bolton
People forget Richmonds draft hand in 2021, 5 picks in the top 30. Gibcus, Brown, Sonsie, Banks and Clarke. All look capable at the level. We definitely have a few that need to go but our youth is a lot more solid than people realise. I don’t think we need to stack picks but we need to nail our picks and get some genuine class The media are the ones pumping up All these moves..a player only needs to sneeze in the direction of another state before it makes headlines..I’m pretty bullish on baker staying as I believe he loves it at Richmond and will be the future captain. Everyone knows the Perth real estate market is hot right now so can’t blame him for making an investment. However, if he does go Pick 15 will not get the baker trade done . Although Bolton is a very unique player, if he is worth two 1st rounders then baker is worth similar. I think we need to keep at least one of Bolton or baker as yo
Agree with the class of 21. I expect Brown, Gibcus and Banks to grow into established senior players in 2025 with Sonsie and Clarke close to the mark. Bolton, Baker, Rioli and Graham have all been great servants for the tiges, but are Hardwick and Minis' men. The time to invest in the future is now. It's time to say farewell to that era and let Yze have clear air to rebuild.
As a Tigers fan I hope Richmond's list management are watching this video. Our Golden Era is over and Tasmania is coming. Hate to say good-bye to champions but it's time to start an aggressive rebuild -which will be painful.
If Richmond pull the trigger, they will already be ahead of Essendon. The key is to bottom out and reset. Essendon have never bottomed out truly in 20 years. Always resisting and living in 9-14 purgatory. Nice one Adrian Dodo.
I think that’s a bit steep for Baker and Bolton…if I’m Freo, I’d offer Richmond 8, 11 and a F1…not sure many clubs would beat that offer and if they do, good on them
I am constantly amazed by this narrative of players desperate to go to their home state to be closer to "support networks" These are grown men we are talking about, with every bit of support that money can buy at their diaposal. There are obviously certain situations where you would want to be close to family, like if you have a terminally sick parent or something similar but that does not seem to be the case 99% of the time. With modern communication as it is, every player is a press of a button away from face to face contact with anyone in the world. A short plane ride will get you to any city in the country with less than 24 hours notice needed. Is there no sense of adventure, no desire to make a life and family of their own left in modern young men?
Totally agree. And I have moved interstate myself, away from family support, for work and lifestyle (and also to escape Covid lockowns). But then I had a child, which has completely changed my perspective. Especially since my wife is isolated and lacking support from her family. The draw to go home is overwhelming.
I'm with you on this take mate - I believe with Bolton it is around his kids? Perhaps pretty young kids? So I'm not too sure but I think Morris suggested his circumstances had changed recently.
Toronto's been great Harper will improve greatly with a full pre-season under his belt McAuliffe will be a gun in the midfield and we must trade out Baker Rioli Graham and Bolton to get great draught picks while they still have good capital we must rebuild before Tassie come in to the competition I'm glad Marlin Pickett has retired because he will end up in the lock up soon anyway and I heard a rumour that McIntosh will go as well
Talent coming through these next few drafts will have money thrown at them to either stay at their current club, or from Tasmania, with their fat bank account and draft hand. We'll see some pretty massive deals in the next few seasons.
It is so nice to not be too concerned with trade week just yet. I don't think my Hawks will make the eight and even if they do, they are not a realistic flag threat. But it has been five years without playing a final and seven without a flag (that is a premiership drought to us) So while there is still a realistic chance at finals, the inner child in me still believes. It seems the Hawks will be active in the trades this year but I can't concentrate on that until the fat lady is singing.
Richmond should trade Baker Bolton and r i o l i while they still have good currency because let's be honest we won't when a flag for the next 3 to 5 years so we must bite the bullet now Recruit half a dozen top end Talent play them all straight away to get games into them we have to do this before Tassie enter the competition also a small compensation for Dustin Martin because of his age
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Yes imagine. We would be in no mans land with one good prospect. We need two years of multiple top end drafts and then 5 years of trading to be in the window again. Not sure what you are smoking. It wasn't Dustin Martin that turned us into a premiership team it was trading for the right players in Nank, Prestia, Caddy and Lynch. And nailing picks like Rance, Riewoldt, Vlastuin and Cotchin. With plenty of our second rounders being players with 150+ Games experience all peaking 2015 to 2020. You can place peak Dustin Martin in and wooden spoon team in his prime and he isn't doing anything other than looking really good in a losing team, aka Harry Sheezel of modern times.
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Nice to hear someone say they respect Richmond rolling the dice for another premiership, I have always felt the same with WC trading a premium for Kelly. Premierships are so bloody hard to win, you have to capitalise as much as you can.
@@eggeggeggeggeggeggeggegg some times it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Happens to every club at one point or another, I imagine.
Exactly. What's the risk really, it's just an extra year or 2 at the bottom while you get a decent chance at another premiership.
A club would be insane not to do it
Spot on mate. Richmond were screaming out for some inside midfielders at the time
I'm a tigers fan and I'm pretty chill with whatever decision we go (that's the benefit of recent premiership success talking lol) though I'd definitely lean towards the aggressive rebuild approach. I love Rioli, Bolton, Baker and Graham - multiple premierships between them but the reality is if their heart isn't in sticking around, we're better off moving them on and getting what we can for them. With a strong negotiating position as you allude to in the video, we can package up multiple picks to other clubs in needs of points to move us up the order or get more top end picks before Tasmania come into future drafts.
It's also why the Taranto and Hopper deals were IMO crucial as they will be able to help bolster the midfield for the youngsters with the departures of Cotchin, Martin, Prestia, McIntosh, Pickett (either gone or probably all within the next season or two) looming.
We also appointed Chris Toce who did wonders at St Kilda as our recruiting boss earlier this year so I'd feel confident with him and his team making some good selections.
fwiw, I don't think the future is too bleak for us either (again, maybe that' the post premiership optimism) - we've had a shocking injury run this year so it's been hard for Yze to get a good run at things but we've generally been competitive in most games while playing many inexperienced youngsters. Our cap space will also look pretty nice with so many retirements or outgoings (including Dusty's big bucks) that we can potentially be active in the free agency market in years to come - or potentially take on players from other club's needing a bit of cap relief should there be any bargains to be had.
Good to see you are still going strong.
As you may remember, I am a Richmond Supporter for 57 years.
A good video and want to add and confirm.
The Tigers are due for a big clean out: both on the field and off the field. Arguably the biggest in a long time.
It's time YZE had his own team, and this draft its time to let players go, if they don't want to be there.
His own team, clean air and lets see if can coach and most importantly develop young talent.
Tassie is coming, and remember our CEO is leading that charge.
Therefore timing is now!
As many draft pick, high as possible, combine the points (as that system is changing also) retire players, develop and play the young guns.
Take a leaf out of Mitchell's (Hawthorn's) book (Short term pain for longer gain).
Forever loyal, since the day Royce, tore the heart out of Geelong in 1967.....
And finally, i always remember the AFL is Australia's most popular reality TV show, with the Tigers often, and rightly so, casted as the villains.
Thanks Harry. So you favour a pretty aggressive approach, I hope it happens purely for the entertainment factor! Try not to strengthen the purple mob too much though please...
Richmond need to go all in for this draft
I think it was the last H&A round in 2015 that Geelong played Adelaide. Dangerfield was linked to a trade to Geelong so when he took a mark late in the last quarter, the whole crowd cheered him as if he was their favourite player ever.
I would love to see GC treat Daniel Rioli to a similar welcome/invite.
Danger was a restricted free agent but Geelong didn't offer more money than the crows did so the crows forced the trade
@@CoreyJones-kq1wj I think you missed the main point.
If I'm Richmond though, I would learn from the Eagles and committ strongly to the rebuild now, they've got players in decent form atleast that will have some capital.
Also have to learn from north and not gut the list and get stuck in purgatory for ages. There's a sweet spot that I think Hawthorn committed to once they got rid of clarko and brought in Mitchell that I think we need to follow.
@@sov839 sure, but you do need to factor in the Tasmania Devils coming in soon and the compromised drafts that will surely follow. Might be best to rip the bandaid off nice and fast and get through the agony quickly.
What have Richmond been doing theres not many young players coming through their system over the last 5 years.
Good ideas mate and well delivered.
They should definitely look at North and what they have done and learn from their failings. As a North fan, watching us try to load up again after our 2 prelims around 2016, have that not work, then have a couple of terrible drafts resulting in us clean out a list made the last 6-8 years pretty difficult. But then After 2 years of really targeting multiple early first round picks we are starting to turn a corner. For the first time in years, we probably don't need our first pick to be so high for the coming draft.
It seems like West Coast hasn't gone to their draft as much as they should have so maybe it's best to aim for 3-5 top picks over 2-3 drafts.
Keep up the good content.
ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT the help and free picks you were given from the AFL if the tigers asked for help they would be laughed at. they are still celebrating their 3 premierships ( should of been 4) so supporters do not care if they lose players and looking forward to the rebuild
as a Richmond fan i have really been skeptical with the idea of trading Rioli and Bolton because they are so good for us but in a lot of ways i haven't even considered how much that potentially trading those guys could help us especially with having a new coach, i still don't want to loose these players but Tasmania is right around the corner and that will have a effect on our ability to rebuild so maybe this would be a good thing and do it now so by the time Tasmania enter the competition we will be towards the end of our rebuild (fingers crossed) where as if we didn't take the risk we would be stuck in the middle of a few very compromised drafts which could mean we don't come out of the rebuild till 2030 if not later so though i am not completely for this idea maybe we should bite the bullet and hope that we come out the other side in one peace. i appreciate you making this video and i have to admit I'm looking forward to the possibilities that could come from the off season now I've seen the other side to all this noise and i understand that this is only hypothetical but i am at least more open to this possibility.
This was a good video. It’d be cool did you did something similar for the other bottom teams. I like your Richmond deals except I would try and get some picks for next year. Try to sign some vets to help the draftees.
I did a bit of research on our draft possibilities, and also used some other twitter sources to get a better understanding (shoutout @CameronHicks__) and here's essentially where Richmond's draft haul could lead
Pick 1 - Josh Smilie/Jagga Smith - I tend to see us going for Jagga since he's a richmond kid and Smillie has had a quiet back end do his "draft audition"
Pick 8 via Freo - Sam Lalor - Mid/Fwd that's more like Petracca than recent prospects I've seen
Pick 11 via Freo - Jonty Faull - Addresses the Key Fwd stocks. Obviously there's Lynch Kozzy Lefau and Fawcett, but we need a genuine young KPF that shows draft talent, and Faull could be the one
Pick 14 via WCE - Joe Berry - Crafty Small however I do think there is some flexibility in who we'd target depending on how players slide and which needs clubs like Melbourne and North address.
Pick 16 via Freo - Tobie Travaglia - bigger bodied HB/Wing that could get in the squad early and really challenge the current younger players in those positions like Trezise and Banks.
Pick 21 - Alixzander Tauru - I think he's ~193cm and loves to fly in the backline. I could also see us taking Harrison Oliver to replace the loss of Rioli if we need to, considering our KPD stocks include Gibcus Balta Blight Young and Miller.
That is a massive, elite draft haul. then the question becomes does richmond want to trade 21 and 16 for a pick between 10-13 to secure a player like Harry Armstrong or Jack Whitlock instead so we bring in 2 KPF's in 1 draft. There's so many options.
Outgoings that will lead to picks, assuming we dont stagger our departures over 2 years so that we can control the list blowout include; (this includes rumoured deals, not my opinion on their worth)
Shai Bolton - 8 and 16 (plus we send a 2nd round pick swap their way)
Baker - 1st rounder from WCE assuming they split, or we give them baker and 16 for pick 3 (again rumour)
Jack Graham - 4 year deal from WCE could lead to an end of first or early 2nd round pick
Dan Rioli - GC pick 6 and 12 for Rioli plus some garbage picks for points so they can get Leo Lombard as an academy selection.
For me I'd rather stagger the departures to a degree, even if that means we hold onto Rioli for an extra year so we have premiership experience across 3 lines (grimes and dusty retirements further remove that experience). However Tassie around the corner may force our hand. The positive to this is the teams that want our players have a load of picks and are pushing for a strong premiership push over the next few years (Freo 3 first rounders and are pushing for top 4, GC should be pushing for top 8 next season and a flag the season after that). We're able to force teams to pay overs since Bolton and Rioli are contracted. Fortunately we still have Neil Balme and Blair Hartley to facilitate this draft. Balme leaves at the end of the year so it's crucial we make the right calls and get this done before tassie. The last thing you want is to rely on the draft like that. We've rebuilt through the expansion clubs once and it was fruitful, but lightning won't strike twice.
If we can nail that down, then we can focus on rounding out supporting players which typically you can find pretty easily as long as your core is strong. Perfect example is GWS bringing in bedford for nothing, or sydney getting Adams Grundy and Jordon for cheap, just to name some basic and recent examples.
With Jack Graham heavily linked to West Coast, tend to make me think Liam Baker is going to Eagles as they are close mates. If I was WC Bolton should be more of a target, can play midfield, kick goals and goal assists . I think it’s worth noting Bolton & Baker visited WC together during bye round.
@@ralphgomeze8873 good points. But Bolton is absolutely not an option for eagles. Will cost way too much!!!!
Pick 2 would get him. We need tall defender to be honest. That's the priority. Look at tomorrow's game
@@stigmatasw exactly….wouldnt give that away for any player atm
Very comprehensive analysis, love it. As a Tigers fan, the idea of us cutting really deep to maximise draft picks excites me and would set us up nicely, particularly with Tas compromising future drafts. The only player of that crop I’ll really miss is Rioli. Bolton can be brilliant but is flaky and looks unmotivated in a poor team. Baker has come off recently too
Fantastic analysis, I think you are 100% correct, just not sure that Richmond has the fortitude to get rid of some of their stars and should probably keep some to give the youth some guidance and mentors. Unfortunately no compensation for Dusty.
Keep up the awesome work 💛💙🦅🏆
I’m not a Richmond supporter (my misses is), and I would love to see this happen.
You said North don’t have a father son this year? River Stevens is the son of North great Anthony Stevens. He’ll more then likely go around mid to late third round of the draft, much like Jackson Archer did
No mention of injuries?
Tiger supporter and yes I believe we should go hard in this draft as you say .
They really should go hard at the draft or it is difficult to see how they improve the list once the Apples come in. The possible trades you mentioned have currency. Another year or two for Bolton and co in a cellar dweller list and their trade value declines I reckon.
The other big thing is that this draft is looking great for a rebuilding list. Sell the farm and go shopping.
It is an interesting one for us.
The problem is, you lose talent for picks, you have to nail the picks just to replace the talent you lost.
6 and 14 certainly sounds appealing from a North perspective! Certainly from a list building perspective.
It's a hard reset by Richmond IMO. Trade it out now and snag what FA you can to instill a foundation of youth and experience that can get those green shoots going.
The biggest thing that is coming for Richmond next year is actually outside the draft and trades. With 5 key position players including a top 10 draft pick having endured ACLs and the best power forward in the league missing most of the year yes we may have a bumper draft haul but the list of available players in 2025 will be completely different to 2024.
As a Richmond supporter this hypothetical excites me for the future. However im very concerned about the possibility of a lack of leadership which could lead to poor development of these future players. I think we cash in on Bolton whilst we're gonna get overs for him, but i think we have to do everything in our power to keep one of, baker or rioli, to teach the next wave of players.
Jagga Smith seems like the perfect Richmond man, so i do think we go with him pick 1, unless Finn O'Sullivan shows a lot this week playing in our VFL side. Trading 6 and 14 for North's pick 2, ajd having pick 1 and 2 would be perfect i reckon.
@@jeremyholland4 you could always look to explore free agency as you go forward to bring in experience, but bank draft picks this year, given Tasmania.
they were saying picks 10 and 16 for baker and same for Bolton round 2 pick for graham and 2 first rounders for Rioli 2 of these will be future picks need to go hard top players out there go deep up till 40
As a die hard Richmond fan we need to rebuild it is honestly boring to watch and I’d rather see a group of young kids develop rather than finish in no man’s land for the next 20 years again. Bolton is inconsistent and painful to watch these days with his goal kicking. Rioli and Baker would hurt but is what it is to get in talent. I would say getting top 10 picks isn’t that important in this years draft with the depth so delist a heap of players and get in youth see below for my optimistic outlook
Pick 1: Josh Smilie - Mid - Pat Cripps/Petracca
Pick 8: Sam Lalor - Mid - Dusty clone
Pick 12: Tobie Travaglia - Half Back - Will Day
Pick 14: Harry Armstrong - Full Forward - Van Rooyen
Pick 16: Xavier Lindsay - Half back - Luke Hodge
Pick 20: Alexander Tairu - CHB - Jake Lever
Pick 22: Joe Berry - Small Forward - Mark LeCras
Pick 24: Jobe Shanahan - Tall Forward - Aaron Naughton
Own picks: 1 and 22
Gold Cost picks: 8 and 20 for Rioli
Fremantle picks: 12, 14, 16 and 24 for Baker and Bolton
People forget Richmonds draft hand in 2021, 5 picks in the top 30. Gibcus, Brown, Sonsie, Banks and Clarke. All look capable at the level. We definitely have a few that need to go but our youth is a lot more solid than people realise.
I don’t think we need to stack picks but we need to nail our picks and get some genuine class
The media are the ones pumping up
All these moves..a player only needs to sneeze in the direction of another state before it makes headlines..I’m pretty bullish on baker staying as I believe he loves it at Richmond and will be the future captain. Everyone knows the Perth real estate market is hot right now so can’t blame him for making an investment.
However, if he does go Pick 15 will not get the baker trade done . Although Bolton is a very unique player, if he is worth two 1st rounders then baker is worth similar.
I think we need to keep at least one of Bolton or baker as yo
Agree with the class of 21. I expect Brown, Gibcus and Banks to grow into established senior players in 2025 with Sonsie and Clarke close to the mark. Bolton, Baker, Rioli and Graham have all been great servants for the tiges, but are Hardwick and Minis' men. The time to invest in the future is now. It's time to say farewell to that era and let Yze have clear air to rebuild.
If I was Richmond I would aim for 8 picks in the top 20 draft (or top 25 or 30..) over two years, or as close to that as possible.
good video bro
As a Tigers fan I hope Richmond's list management are watching this video. Our Golden Era is over and Tasmania is coming. Hate to say good-bye to champions but it's time to start an aggressive rebuild -which will be painful.
If Richmond pull the trigger, they will already be ahead of Essendon. The key is to bottom out and reset. Essendon have never bottomed out truly in 20 years. Always resisting and living in 9-14 purgatory. Nice one Adrian Dodo.
I think that’s a bit steep for Baker and Bolton…if I’m Freo, I’d offer Richmond 8, 11 and a F1…not sure many clubs would beat that offer and if they do, good on them
Freo should forget about Baker & just go for Bolton
Baker offers nothing to Freo
Freo should go in on Bolton, but could have Bolton and baker for say 2 first roundrrs and st Kildas second rounder
Its tough for Yze if they give away all their best players.
The clock is ticking to get cracking now either the rebuild due to the impending arrival of Tassie.
I am constantly amazed by this narrative of players desperate to go to their home state to be closer to "support networks" These are grown men we are talking about, with every bit of support that money can buy at their diaposal. There are obviously certain situations where you would want to be close to family, like if you have a terminally sick parent or something similar but that does not seem to be the case 99% of the time. With modern communication as it is, every player is a press of a button away from face to face contact with anyone in the world. A short plane ride will get you to any city in the country with less than 24 hours notice needed.
Is there no sense of adventure, no desire to make a life and family of their own left in modern young men?
Totally agree. And I have moved interstate myself, away from family support, for work and lifestyle (and also to escape Covid lockowns). But then I had a child, which has completely changed my perspective. Especially since my wife is isolated and lacking support from her family. The draw to go home is overwhelming.
I'm with you on this take mate - I believe with Bolton it is around his kids? Perhaps pretty young kids? So I'm not too sure but I think Morris suggested his circumstances had changed recently.
I don't see freo going all in on Bolton and I don't see richmond doing any favors in that trade. I think it'll be too hard to complete
Woop woop, first comment! This also means I am up super early and have no life. 😂
Damn I missed it
Toronto's been great Harper will improve greatly with a full pre-season under his belt McAuliffe will be a gun in the midfield and we must trade out Baker Rioli Graham and Bolton to get great draught picks while they still have good capital we must rebuild before Tassie come in to the competition I'm glad Marlin Pickett has retired because he will end up in the lock up soon anyway and I heard a rumour that McIntosh will go as well
Talent coming through these next few drafts will have money thrown at them to either stay at their current club, or from Tasmania, with their fat bank account and draft hand. We'll see some pretty massive deals in the next few seasons.
It is so nice to not be too concerned with trade week just yet. I don't think my Hawks will make the eight and even if they do, they are not a realistic flag threat. But it has been five years without playing a final and seven without a flag (that is a premiership drought to us) So while there is still a realistic chance at finals, the inner child in me still believes.
It seems the Hawks will be active in the trades this year but I can't concentrate on that until the fat lady is singing.
I don't blame you
Wow saw this vid in under a minute
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Richmond should go nuclear and cash in this draft. It’s even and deep and with tassie coming in, in 2 years drafting will be a challenge
Why would Adelaide do that trade? They wouldnt
Richmond should trade Baker Bolton and r i o l i while they still have good currency because let's be honest we won't when a flag for the next 3 to 5 years so we must bite the bullet now Recruit half a dozen top end Talent play them all straight away to get games into them we have to do this before Tassie enter the competition also a small compensation for Dustin Martin because of his age
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Richmond should have traded into last years first round. Imagine having a Windsor, sanders, Watson, curtin or caddy type in the team now.
Yes imagine. We would be in no mans land with one good prospect. We need two years of multiple top end drafts and then 5 years of trading to be in the window again. Not sure what you are smoking. It wasn't Dustin Martin that turned us into a premiership team it was trading for the right players in Nank, Prestia, Caddy and Lynch. And nailing picks like Rance, Riewoldt, Vlastuin and Cotchin. With plenty of our second rounders being players with 150+ Games experience all peaking 2015 to 2020. You can place peak Dustin Martin in and wooden spoon team in his prime and he isn't doing anything other than looking really good in a losing team, aka Harry Sheezel of modern times.
Worst dynasty team ever
Key words “dynasty”🖕😂🖕
3 in 4 😂
I guess those losses to the Tiges in September didn’t sit well with you