Hi Sam. One long comment in my opinion about different pelvic binders. Please feel free to post your opinion. I used the SAM Pelvic binder and the T-POD in civilian prehospital settings. I prefer the T-POD. One key point is the maximum force you can apply, as you described. The t-Pod can be tightened with one hand from one side. It is not needed to hold it against the pulling force from the other side. There is one size that covers the sizes from the SAM, so I only need one on my ambulance. And it is a little wider so it is a little bit more tolerant at the correct position. However: It needs a decent amount of space like one SAM. I've searched a long time for a small packing pelvic binder and found: none. I've noticed the RISE that you can use for splinting and pelvic stabilisation. I think it can work, but on the first an second impression I think that it is beyond a 'real' pelvic binder. I still carry it as a dual-use item in my personal small First Aid Kit. In small packing and multiple purpose it is great. I hope that this new device will be available in Europe. I will give it a try for sure.
@@mikesanchez7286 well, you wouldn't use exactly the same mechanism, but the state of the art right now involves turning a windlass, which is not that different from turning a dial.
@@mikesanchez7286 I think the mechanism could work fine with a windlass; you'd obviously want to change the drive ratio to get the right pressure range, but that seems like it wouldn't be hard.
Man I’m just imagining the incredible amount of pain having a significant pelvic injury then cinching down on it like that. I’m sure it help, but that’s got to hurt. Looks like a simple well designed product though. Simple and easy is best.
With an open book fracture, using a pelvic binder to stabilize actually relieves pain…or so I’m told. I’ve had a T-pod used on me. Actually felt quite nice…until I had to pee.
@@mahbuddykeith1124 Huh interesting, I guess that does make sense. At least getting everything close to where it should be and not moving around would help with pain. Doesn’t sound like a good time if you’re in that position to need it. Sorry that happened to you, glad you’re alright though.
Tactical Medical Solutions makes the Rise splint, marketed primarily as a fixation splint but also a pelvic binder. In a video I was watching the point was made, 1 SAM or Cro Medical pelvic binder, more than 1 patient in need (military) triage who needs the better binder more. 2 benefits of the Rise, from factor and cost. I'll probably get a Cro binder for my med bag, but I can fit a Rise in my BOK. Those of us that pay for our own stuff, the cost of SAM was prohibitive. Rise brings a potentially lifesaving intervention to more patients.
Hey Sam, our department is several years behind the curve as far as EMS goes and we do not carry pelvic binders, have you played with connecting two CAT TQ's for a pelvic binder and if so what do you think about the efficacy of that? I appreciate your content and hope you carry on making it.
Probably not. I have walk through videos of several ambulances you can watch. Rig checks are literally just going through the ambulance and making sure everything is there. Plus you learning my ambulance won’t do you any good as it will be astronomically different then other rigs you might actually work on.
What is the realistic life-usage of the CRO Binder? That is; barring heavy bodily fluids contamination is it a single application or can it potentially be recycled? I state this query realizing that once it's applied by a bystander and the patient is transported to definitive care that it's most likely a write off.
Non-Sam answer, I have the mindset that any equipment I use will follow them into surgery, so I don't plan on anything being recycled. When I handoff to the surgical team, I'm sure I would get laughed at if right before they wheeled away I asked for 'that' piece of kit back. The response would surely be an Ok, suuuure!
@@witchdoc5075 thanks for the input. Note: I think you missed my last line of my question when I inferred that the contaminated items were "bye-bye". ;) I was looking into more the angle of stretching out the binding strength of the device if one was to practice with it similar to potentially weakening a TQ by "practicing" with it (rather than with the blue-trainer). Sam made no mention of a blue-trainer model. I admit that perhaps I posed my query in the wrong context. ;)
That’s a good question and I don’t truly know the answer. But I will say that boa systems don’t really come off while snowboarding or doing other sports that utilize them so I have a high degree of confidence in this device.
Fun fact: if PrepMedic puts this Cro Medical binder on you, it's STILL a Sam binder.
I'll see myself out.
Hi Sam.
One long comment in my opinion about different pelvic binders.
Please feel free to post your opinion.
I used the SAM Pelvic binder and the T-POD in civilian prehospital settings.
I prefer the T-POD.
One key point is the maximum force you can apply, as you described.
The t-Pod can be tightened with one hand from one side. It is not needed to hold it against the pulling force from the other side.
There is one size that covers the sizes from the SAM, so I only need one on my ambulance.
And it is a little wider so it is a little bit more tolerant at the correct position.
However:
It needs a decent amount of space like one SAM.
I've searched a long time for a small packing pelvic binder and found: none.
I've noticed the RISE that you can use for splinting and pelvic stabilisation.
I think it can work, but on the first an second impression I think that it is beyond a 'real' pelvic binder.
I still carry it as a dual-use item in my personal small First Aid Kit.
In small packing and multiple purpose it is great.
I hope that this new device will be available in Europe.
I will give it a try for sure.
Excellent, I would like to see if they could build a tourniquet with this sort of mechanism and principle.
I agree, but I feel like the fine motor skills required in a situation like self-application would be counterintuitive
@@mikesanchez7286 well, you wouldn't use exactly the same mechanism, but the state of the art right now involves turning a windlass, which is not that different from turning a dial.
@@microcolonel true true, I guess I’m just more partial to the windlass
@@mikesanchez7286 I think the mechanism could work fine with a windlass; you'd obviously want to change the drive ratio to get the right pressure range, but that seems like it wouldn't be hard.
@@mikesanchez7286 Aren't we all Devil Doc! 'Rah
I like that it doesn't look like you have as much of the yanking action that you get with the Sam Splint.
Man I’m just imagining the incredible amount of pain having a significant pelvic injury then cinching down on it like that. I’m sure it help, but that’s got to hurt. Looks like a simple well designed product though. Simple and easy is best.
With an open book fracture, using a pelvic binder to stabilize actually relieves pain…or so I’m told. I’ve had a T-pod used on me. Actually felt quite nice…until I had to pee.
@@mahbuddykeith1124 Huh interesting, I guess that does make sense. At least getting everything close to where it should be and not moving around would help with pain. Doesn’t sound like a good time if you’re in that position to need it. Sorry that happened to you, glad you’re alright though.
@@sethrich5998 Oh, no. It was for training. Canadian equivalent of EMT, basically.
@@mahbuddykeith1124 Oh gotcha, well that’s even better. Much better in training than actually needing it. Ha
Tactical Medical Solutions makes the Rise splint, marketed primarily as a fixation splint but also a pelvic binder. In a video I was watching the point was made, 1 SAM or Cro Medical pelvic binder, more than 1 patient in need (military) triage who needs the better binder more. 2 benefits of the Rise, from factor and cost. I'll probably get a Cro binder for my med bag, but I can fit a Rise in my BOK. Those of us that pay for our own stuff, the cost of SAM was prohibitive. Rise brings a potentially lifesaving intervention to more patients.
Awesome review! Great product⚕️. I got my first one last year and I'm really happy with it.
An advanced item for medcare...easy to use this one...
Awesome, might have to show this to our director
Hey Sam, our department is several years behind the curve as far as EMS goes and we do not carry pelvic binders, have you played with connecting two CAT TQ's for a pelvic binder and if so what do you think about the efficacy of that? I appreciate your content and hope you carry on making it.
Thoughts on usage of this for GSW to pelvis/abdomen?
My Dad had an open book pelvic fracture from the accident that killed him. I wonder if this could have helped.
Basically a big cat
That's pretty cool 😎
Top 10 of comments.. great work Sam
Can you do a video on pre-shift rig/ambulance checks? Can't find any of that and am trying to learn the ambulance better
Probably not. I have walk through videos of several ambulances you can watch. Rig checks are literally just going through the ambulance and making sure everything is there. Plus you learning my ambulance won’t do you any good as it will be astronomically different then other rigs you might actually work on.
What is the realistic life-usage of the CRO Binder? That is; barring heavy bodily fluids contamination is it a single application or can it potentially be recycled? I state this query realizing that once it's applied by a bystander and the patient is transported to definitive care that it's most likely a write off.
Non-Sam answer, I have the mindset that any equipment I use will follow them into surgery, so I don't plan on anything being recycled. When I handoff to the surgical team, I'm sure I would get laughed at if right before they wheeled away I asked for 'that' piece of kit back. The response would surely be an Ok, suuuure!
@@witchdoc5075 thanks for the input. Note: I think you missed my last line of my question when I inferred that the contaminated items were "bye-bye". ;)
I was looking into more the angle of stretching out the binding strength of the device if one was to practice with it similar to potentially weakening a TQ by "practicing" with it (rather than with the blue-trainer). Sam made no mention of a blue-trainer model.
I admit that perhaps I posed my query in the wrong context. ;)
@@leslieunderwood3520 It is rated for 100 training applications.
@@cromedical2391 Thanks for the response to my query.
Is it one time use?
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How easily does the BOA system disengage? Curious if it would pop out of place during transport/moving the patient.
That’s a good question and I don’t truly know the answer. But I will say that boa systems don’t really come off while snowboarding or doing other sports that utilize them so I have a high degree of confidence in this device.
Nice bro
When would I know to deploy one of these?
What if the patient doesn’t fit, what do you do then?
Wrap them with a sheet and twist as hard as you can. Old school.
@@classicambo9781 this!
Get some.
What's the best way to become a paramedic?
Don't become one lol. Otherwise depends on which country you are in. If in the US check out prepmedics other videos. He has covered this.
Can it be use as a tourniquet?
Wouldn't bet on it. For the tight fit needed on limbs, just stick to a CAT tq.
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