In the late 70s my father in law gave me a set like the large ones. They got stolen when I was in the hospital last year. I treasured those even if they weren't worth a lot of money. Sentiment plays a great role in things doesn't it. I enjoyed the video thanks
I had to laugh when you went for your socket set. I deal with these ball valves on a regular basis and know off the top of my head that they're eight sided. If you hit them with a little bit of heat it will break the bond of the loctite. The Teflon seals can take about 500°F. A heat gun on low typically does the trick. Great job. See you tomorrow.
Hi buddy, I've been to Fred dibnah's house today with Ben. And a few other spots related to him around Bolton. Very intresting to see after seeing so much of it on TH-cam. And a bit sad too. Hope you'll have a fantastic time in Jacktown!
Scout, you keep calling them 25¢ pliers. I'd like to see you find an equal quality pliers for 25¢, nowadays. Looks like the Pit Crew has replaced the Patina Boys on this one,
If you think you might egg or distort a female fitting, screw a nipple or piece of pipe into the fitting it strengthens the inner threads. trick from an old pipefitter. I enjoy the channel very much.
I love the ball valve cut-away. Well done on the pliers. I do not expect to be able to make Jacktown tomorrow so sorry to miss the meet-up. Likely Sunday. Dave.
That ball valve is a work of art, it's always interesting to really get inside and see how things work. Pliers came out great, good bit of pragmatism using the blueing, absolute bargain at 25c, as you say it can be a low cost hobby ! Have a great time at Jacktown - I know you will, it's just a shame you've given up buying tools ! 😉
The ball valve really turned out nice, who doesn't like brass. And you would never know those are .25 cent pliers. Beautifully done always a pleasure watching your videos
Yes, you are right about restoring tools is a great hobby. The best part is that you have a tool that looks good and you can use it. Can’t believe that you had to use a 4 foot wrench on that valve, looks great.
ScoutCrafter, As always, I enjoyed the video. As you are doing you should note the function of the valve. The ball valve you just did is like a light switch on or off, flow or no flow. You cannot open it halfway to control the flow. There are ball valves like the one in the kitchen faucet that have an opening in the ball that is drilled to allow control. Your steam valve as you note is a globe valve. As you open or close the valve you can control the opening and the flow. The gate valve as you open the valve there is a change in the cross-section. A gate valve can control flow, but not as well Asa globe valve. My first full-time job was supervising the construction of two 188,500 DWT tankers. There were three 36" diameter cargo lines, each was epoxy coated on the inside. I had the dubious honor of inspecting the pipes on the inside.I would get to crawl about 450' through each pipe. The pipe was closed on the far end, so you had to turn around and crawl out. Halfway down the pipe was a butterfly valve that you had to crawl through. Pipe inspection was not one of my favorite jobs, for obvious reasons. To make matters worse our steel inspector would walk along the pipe on the outside with a piece of steel in hand. About every 15' he'd hit the pipe and ask if I was OK. If you want to do a cut-away look for an air cylinder. They come apart fairly easily. You'll find the piston rod, seals, piston, rings, the cylinder and the end caps. Bob
Hi John, great valve cut away series. The ball valve was very cool. And the pliers refurb great as usual. Never get tired of the Dake for sure. You make those polishes look so easy, but it’s practice, practice. Yes I like the bluing too. Have fun at Jacktown. One of these days I’ll make it, but the 6+ hour drive is tough.
I do like the valve cut-a-ways. I have used ball valves for many years in my career as a general contractor. Never had one seize up or leak...except for the cheap plastic ones. I put three-way ball valves in a fire-pumper I built. Check them out...pretty cool. Way to expensive to cut apart, though. Thanks for the videos!
Hi Scout , All those valves take me back to when I did plumbing . We were based in Staten Island but worked all over the five boroughs . From the ball valves , steam valves you name it . I enjoyed the video … Have a good weekend … Tomorrow
One drawback to brass fittings is how they ding up when you have to really grab onto them with an aggressive wrench. They do clean up beautifully though. Your ball valve turned out great1
The ball valve cut away is another learning tool. It’s a shame how the manufacturers don’t want you rebuilding there valves. I do remember the hardware stores carrying parts for them. Did you leave a tip with the 50 cents you paid for the pliers. You did a nice restoration on the pliers. You are so good at taking some crap and making ice cream. Even different flavors from time to time. Thank You
Hi John. Great video. I love the ball valve cutaway. Great job on those pliers. I can't believe this weather down here. In the 90s hear already 😮...have a great weekend and enjoy the meet. 👍👍❤...
The ball is not stainless, it is chrome plated brass. The nice thing about that is you don't have to do more than remove the handle for scraping them when they fail (Usually freezing causes them to fail)
Aw man I I was hoping you seen my comment last week. if you put a 1” fitting in the valve it wouldn’t have deformed as much. I made that mistake too many times lol 😂
Nice job. Add some heat the next time you run into one like that. Heat will soften almost any glue. Teflon’s good for 500 deg. F or so so you could get it pretty hot without hurting the seals.
Yes- I did add heat (propane) but I was worried about melting the teflon. That glue they use is super strong! Even apart I had to use dental tools to remove it! 🫣😂👍
Metal is heated up to red hot and then placed in a type of press that forms the metal. They call it Drop forged because the older machines would drop the top press onto the bottom die in a violent and fast motion! 😃👍
3:46 Just an idea, but if you had a threaded rod that screwed into the fitting. Would taking a section of the rod and tighten double nuts into it, until the rod is super tight onto the threads, then try to unscrew the fitting end using the "sacrificial" nut tightened onto the fitting. Would that work it loose?
I've really enjoyed the valve videos as something a little different. You are the reason I have started out in tool restoration. I really struggle cleaning up the inside of small to medium size plier handles on the inside, I've 'buggered up' countless pairs with the flap disc / 1x30 belt. Any advice on this would be really appreciated. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion.
Everything came out great! Quite beautiful, in fact. Please. Tell the story of the project or thoughts that initially made you say, "now I need/want a dake". Thanks for the joy you spread with each of your videos.
I’ve been wondering if the cutters could be restored on those. Maybe build it up with a TIG weld, then grind it down? The heat from the TIG would make a hardened surface. Could probably get in there with a die filer to shape and sharpen them back up after welding. If I didn’t have so many major projects that I’m juggling right now I’d give it a try.
Maybe see you tomo at jacktown , never knew there was so much to know about ball valves ...love the pliers.. One day I will make a video about how to get rid of the deepest pits john .
😂😂😂. I met Tommy in Boy Scouts and we’ve been friends since. He moved here from South Carolina as a kid and all the girls went crazy for his accent. 😃👍
Love the cutaways, I loved the valve from last episode too very well presented.Is it possible to do a cutaway of a pair of pliers to see how that rivit works? I’ve always wondered
John, I would love to send you a 4", 4- way stainless steel ball valve to do a cut away. We use them at work and scrap them when they fail, they are not worth rebuilding. They only weigh about 50 pounds 😅😂
Oh my! 😂😂😂. They are a small fortune too! Isn’t it amazing how so many great inventions are taken for granted? When I worked at the bus company they had huge 14” methane valves around the building to off gas buildup- One day a guy noticed all the valves never were opened from day one- 15 years ago! 🫣😂👍
Brian- I have found anything works, solid, tubular… one interesting thing is some companies pliers always loosen up because their rivets are weak. Companies like Klein have the best rivets! Super strong! 😃👍
I do love ball valves over other types (usually). But the outdoor valves usually have a deep stem that goes into the house to the actual valve to allow the water in the freeze area to drain. Not a good explanation, you can find a good diagram to see it. The ball valve is probably too difficult or expensive to make like that.
In the late 70s my father in law gave me a set like the large ones. They got stolen when I was in the hospital last year. I treasured those even if they weren't worth a lot of money. Sentiment plays a great role in things doesn't it. I enjoyed the video thanks
I had to laugh when you went for your socket set. I deal with these ball valves on a regular basis and know off the top of my head that they're eight sided. If you hit them with a little bit of heat it will break the bond of the loctite. The Teflon seals can take about 500°F. A heat gun on low typically does the trick. Great job. See you tomorrow.
Hi buddy, I've been to Fred dibnah's house today with Ben. And a few other spots related to him around Bolton. Very intresting to see after seeing so much of it on TH-cam. And a bit sad too. Hope you'll have a fantastic time in Jacktown!
Wow!!! Alex- I hope you made a video!!! 😃👍
Happy Jacktown Eve!🤠
Cyanoacrylate (CA) glue and red Loctite break down at 400F, while Teflon is good until 500F. A digital (aka laser) thermometer is your friend here.
Scout, you keep calling them 25¢ pliers. I'd like to see you find an equal quality pliers for 25¢, nowadays. Looks like the Pit Crew has replaced the Patina Boys on this one,
You are becoming the master of cutaways! The ball valve looked great as well as the pliers. This was a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing this.
If you think you might egg or distort a female fitting, screw a nipple or piece of pipe into the fitting it strengthens the inner threads. trick from an old pipefitter. I enjoy the channel very much.
Mike- I just learned about that awesome tip! Makes perfect sense! 😃👍
Every ScoutCrafter video is great. I love the plier rehab. Thank you.
Should use pipe nipple or piece pipe in the threads
will not egg shape that end
I love the ball valve cut-away.
Well done on the pliers.
I do not expect to be able to make Jacktown tomorrow so sorry to miss the meet-up. Likely Sunday.
Dave.
That ball valve is a work of art, it's always interesting to really get inside and see how things work.
Pliers came out great, good bit of pragmatism using the blueing, absolute bargain at 25c, as you say it can be a low cost hobby !
Have a great time at Jacktown - I know you will, it's just a shame you've given up buying tools ! 😉
The ball valve really turned out nice, who doesn't like brass. And you would never know those are .25 cent pliers. Beautifully done always a pleasure watching your videos
I'm always amazed that valves like the ball valve, ie, metal against Teflon, can maintain a watertight seal under pressure
I agree! Air too! Amazing! 😃👍
Yes, you are right about restoring tools is a great hobby. The best part is that you have a tool that looks good and you can use it. Can’t believe that you had to use a 4 foot wrench on that valve, looks great.
Larry- That Glue they use is amazingly strong! 😂👍
Did I think I would end my night by learning about the parts and how to disassemble a ball valve….no… But I did and feel smarter now.
I see your ball valve, and raise you… a frost free hose bib!! 😂Excellent work as always! 👍🏻
Fantastic! Have a Great weekend in one of my favorite places, Pennsylvania!
i see CA used all the time on light fixtures and if it's anywhere you can heat with a torch, the CA will burn off easily and you can get it apart.
Have fun at Jacktown I find the value cutaway interesting
ScoutCrafter,
As always, I enjoyed the video. As you are doing you should note the function of the valve. The ball valve you just did is like a light switch on or off, flow or no flow. You cannot open it halfway to control the flow. There are ball valves like the one in the kitchen faucet that have an opening in the ball that is drilled to allow control.
Your steam valve as you note is a globe valve. As you open or close the valve you can control the opening and the flow.
The gate valve as you open the valve there is a change in the cross-section. A gate valve can control flow, but not as well Asa globe valve.
My first full-time job was supervising the construction of two 188,500 DWT tankers. There were three 36" diameter cargo lines, each was epoxy coated on the inside. I had the dubious honor of inspecting the pipes on the inside.I would get to crawl about 450' through each pipe. The pipe was closed on the far end, so you had to turn around and crawl out. Halfway down the pipe was a butterfly valve that you had to crawl through.
Pipe inspection was not one of my favorite jobs, for obvious reasons. To make matters worse our steel inspector would walk along the pipe on the outside with a piece of steel in hand. About every 15' he'd hit the pipe and ask if I was OK.
If you want to do a cut-away look for an air cylinder. They come apart fairly easily. You'll find the piston rod, seals, piston, rings, the cylinder and the end caps.
Bob
Hi John, great valve cut away series. The ball valve was very cool. And the pliers refurb great as usual. Never get tired of the Dake for sure. You make those polishes look so easy, but it’s practice, practice. Yes I like the bluing too.
Have fun at Jacktown. One of these days I’ll make it, but the 6+ hour drive is tough.
"Snoop" abides, thxs for sharing...
I do like the valve cut-a-ways. I have used ball valves for many years in my career as a general contractor. Never had one seize up or leak...except for the cheap plastic ones. I put three-way ball valves in a fire-pumper I built. Check them out...pretty cool. Way to expensive to cut apart, though. Thanks for the videos!
Have you ever had to machine your own socket to work on a tool or equipment?
Not yet- I’ve adapted some but the hardened steel is too much for my equipment unless grinding. 😃👍
Hi Scout , All those valves take me back to when I did plumbing . We were based in Staten Island but worked all over the five boroughs . From the ball valves , steam valves you name it .
I enjoyed the video … Have a good weekend … Tomorrow
Plumbing is hard work until you get good- then it gets a little easier. 😃👍
One drawback to brass fittings is how they ding up when you have to really grab onto them with an aggressive wrench. They do clean up beautifully though. Your ball valve turned out great1
The ball valve cut away is another learning tool. It’s a shame how the manufacturers don’t want you rebuilding there valves. I do remember the hardware stores carrying parts for them. Did you leave a tip with the 50 cents you paid for the pliers. You did a nice restoration on the pliers. You are so good at taking some crap and making ice cream. Even different flavors from time to time. Thank You
Jess- I think we all like seeing tools that are considered worthless brought back. 😃👍
Hi John. Great video. I love the ball valve cutaway. Great job on those pliers. I can't believe this weather down here. In the 90s hear already 😮...have a great weekend and enjoy the meet. 👍👍❤...
If it's like the pictures last year, pay heed any guys looking to meet new ladies. It IS Jacktown...not Janetown.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single lady there! 😂
Mr. Scoutcrafter my husband would like to send you a grinder arbor tool piece from atlas tool in pkg. not sure how to go about it. Thank you Marshall
Hello- My email is bicycleguy@aol.com
The ball is not stainless, it is chrome plated brass. The nice thing about that is you don't have to do more than remove the handle for scraping them when they fail (Usually freezing causes them to fail)
Patrick- Maybe it was the handle that is stainless- they listed it in the description. Thanks!
Those pliers came out great and love the ball valve cut away, maybe mount on a nice board would be neat. Thanks again and see you Monday.
Aw man I I was hoping you seen my comment last week. if you put a 1” fitting in the valve it wouldn’t have deformed as much. I made that mistake too many times lol 😂
Sorry just literally seen you comment last week haha 😂
Nice job. Add some heat the next time you run into one like that. Heat will soften almost any glue. Teflon’s good for 500 deg. F or so so you could get it pretty hot without hurting the seals.
Yes- I did add heat (propane) but I was worried about melting the teflon. That glue they use is super strong! Even apart I had to use dental tools to remove it! 🫣😂👍
Hey, John, what is meant by "DROP" FORGED?
Metal is heated up to red hot and then placed in a type of press that forms the metal. They call it Drop forged because the older machines would drop the top press onto the bottom die in a violent and fast motion! 😃👍
Beautifully explained always enjoy your videos, great job. God bless
3:46 Just an idea, but if you had a threaded rod that screwed into the fitting. Would taking a section of the rod and tighten double nuts into it, until the rod is super tight onto the threads, then try to unscrew the fitting end using the "sacrificial" nut tightened onto the fitting. Would that work it loose?
It might but that’s a pipe thread and 1” in diameter so finding the hardware would be a challenge. 😃👍
Another good one! Always makes me nervous when you use unsupported loose pieces on the Dake, without a cage to catch it, should it shoot out.
This press is light duty- 10 ton max. It’s hard to screw up on light presses. The motor driven heavy presses are a whole different animal.
That ball valve is awesome. Looking at those pliers, I was wondering what the would look like if the facets were ground flat.
Like duckbill pliers. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Duckbill with a side cutter.
I've really enjoyed the valve videos as something a little different. You are the reason I have started out in tool restoration. I really struggle cleaning up the inside of small to medium size plier handles on the inside, I've 'buggered up' countless pairs with the flap disc / 1x30 belt. Any advice on this would be really appreciated. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion.
Everything came out great! Quite beautiful, in fact. Please. Tell the story of the project or thoughts that initially made you say, "now I need/want a dake". Thanks for the joy you spread with each of your videos.
I’ve been wondering if the cutters could be restored on those. Maybe build it up with a TIG weld, then grind it down? The heat from the TIG would make a hardened surface. Could probably get in there with a die filer to shape and sharpen them back up after welding. If I didn’t have so many major projects that I’m juggling right now I’d give it a try.
Great show John! Looking forward to Monday’s show.
Maybe see you tomo at jacktown , never knew there was so much to know about ball valves ...love the pliers.. One day I will make a video about how to get rid of the deepest pits john .
Cool valve.
Great episode! Can I suggest strap Wrenches? You could do a whole thing on them.
Thanks for another great video
Ball valves can be used as a governing valve, unlike a gate valve. Ball valves don’t freeze up. The only way to go
That ball valve cutaway is so cool! The pliers look great and someone will be very happy to win those.
Tommy Corolla? Sounds like a mobster who got his start stealing cars.
😂😂😂. I met Tommy in Boy Scouts and we’ve been friends since. He moved here from South Carolina as a kid and all the girls went crazy for his accent. 😃👍
Ball valve and wrenches look great! Every day is a great day in the shop!
Hi John, nice cutaway ball valve and pliers cleanups.
Love the cutaways, I loved the valve from last episode too very well presented.Is it possible to do a cutaway of a pair of pliers to see how that rivit works? I’ve always wondered
Just a great job on the ball valve. It looks great. You need a display board for all of these
Hey !John, la valve est vraiment superbe. Les deux pinces le sont également, comme neuves et comme d'habitude avec toi. ❤
John, I would love to send you a 4", 4- way stainless steel ball valve to do a cut away. We use them at work and scrap them when they fail, they are not worth rebuilding. They only weigh about 50 pounds 😅😂
Oh my! 😂😂😂. They are a small fortune too! Isn’t it amazing how so many great inventions are taken for granted? When I worked at the bus company they had huge 14” methane valves around the building to off gas buildup- One day a guy noticed all the valves never were opened from day one- 15 years ago! 🫣😂👍
Fullers pliers often had a claret colour sleeves on the handles.
John, Do you think you could do a cutaway on an old ratchet or drill??
Take a look at DeZURIK Eccentric Plug Valves. Pretty neat stuff to us valve nerds.
WOW! Now that’s a valve! How can that not be amazing to people? 😃👍
That 3/4” drive socket set is EPIC!
John, for the Dake adjustment on the pliers, does that metal stock have to be tubular? Have a great time at Jacktown, everyone.
Brian- I have found anything works, solid, tubular… one interesting thing is some companies pliers always loosen up because their rivets are weak. Companies like Klein have the best rivets! Super strong! 😃👍
I would love to go to Jacktown- but at 5+ hours, it's a bit too far.
Have a great weekend ❤️🇺🇸
Yes! 2 hours is my cut-off for a drive one way.
any upcoming tool events on long island?
Why don’t we use ball valves on outdoor spigots I wonder……….
I do love ball valves over other types (usually). But the outdoor valves usually have a deep stem that goes into the house to the actual valve to allow the water in the freeze area to drain. Not a good explanation, you can find a good diagram to see it. The ball valve is probably too difficult or expensive to make like that.
Have you ever heard about a needle valve
Yes- they are in lots of mechanisms dealing with gas, air or fuel. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter I could send you one if you want
I Love to be in the Shop with you 😍
Great end of the week when the Dake comes out.
Would you do me a favor and make a video with the cut-aways and how they operate? It would be useful for the people I work with.
Kirt- Do you mean together?
@@ScoutCrafter yes. I will be a great learning video
Gotcha boom
🛠👍😊
yes thank God it is fryday
Another great tutorial on a cut-away valve. Also great resto on pliers to tighten them up on the dake.🇦🇺
Maybe to heat it with the torch just a bit to soften a glue?
Yes I did but that glue is just so strong! It didn’t even soften with propane. Maybe MAPP gas? 😃👍
Man those pliers came up great as per usual John I thought the cutter was gone but no came up great fantastic job god bless take care 🇳🇿🇺🇸🗽🦅🪖47/FJB🤬
You also got me addicted to restoring tools I can’t quit buying them
Mike- Most of us will never get to all the tools we bought to restore! 🫣😂👍
Nothing more thrilling than a Full Flow ball Valve, I can barely contain my excitement thinking about non-restricted free flowing water! 🚰🦆
And there’s nothing worse than restricted flow especially when turning on the sprinkler! 🫣😂👍