@@bmk256No, Shayna too. She kept saying the doctor didn't do her job properly and wasn't looking, basically insinuating she didn't know how to do her job
you can see her taking deep gulps like she's fighting back the words to tell these two women what delusional worlds they live in. they got ultrasounds, blood test, professional doppler (or could not produce heartbeats on their own for anyone to witness), yet they still think the doctor missed their pregnancy. even after being told "look you are pre-diabetic, have pcos, see your doctor..." they still won't concede. she must be so frustrated and swallowing some choice words!!!! very professional.
I literally do not understand the logic of "this medical professional has spent 10+ years completing med school + residency, but they're wrong because somehow I know more than them". So ignorant...
I understand what you’re saying. But we have to understand that they’re probably mentally very ill. For them this is real. I guess that’s why it’s so hard to make them see how irrational their behavior seems to us. No hate. I agree with your comment. I just feel like there is more to it than just being ignorant. (Or there is something that makes them ignorant)
@@simonamelody5571 Yeah totally, I agree that they both probably have some stuff going on under the hood, it also seems like they both have a crippling confirmation bias that won’t let them accept contrasting information which is very unfortunate, especially when their physical heath is compromised as well. Thanks for your reply!
@@horsegirl97100 yes i agree. It’s totally unfortunate. Still so hard to fully understand and believe how they feel this way. I hope for not only their mental health, but also for the sake of their physical health that they were able to get help. Thanks for your reply too.
"I know my body" and "I researched it on the internet" are two of the most hated phrases among doctors. These women spout both them. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect. They're so ignorant, about medical science and the human reproductive system and anatomy, that they can't even comprehend how ignorant they are. They don't show any signs of being psychologically unstable in any other aspect of their lives, they lead normal lives, it's just in this particular area they talk like nincompoops. So I agree with your original comment, I think it really is ignorance. And anyone can be ignorant, I'm ignorant about welding, so I certainly wouldn't lecture a welding expert on how to weld something.
@@alcoholandfun243 i get what ur saying but she believes that she's pregnant but she literally said I forget what it was in this video or another video that she would be so happy that if she wasn't pregnant cuz she didn't even want a kid
She said the ultrasound was “like two seconds long.” I was 8 weeks when I had my first ultrasound and it only took the ultrasound technician literally seconds to find the baby. I was shocked at how quickly she found the baby and checked everything honestly. Thorough but very quick. They know what they’re doing and looking for.
Was nobody going to tell these women that the "fetal heartbeats" they're hearing with their home doppler devices were their own pulses? I've worked with doppler ultrasounds on pregnant women and a normal fetal heartbeat is above 100, and you can clearly see on one of the ladies' dopplers at 1:02 is reading 55. They're just moving it around their bellies, waiting to get a reading when in actuality they're just finding their own abdominal arterial pulses....
It’s crazy. A lot of people that buy dopplers don’t realize that. And some expectant moms will send themselves into a fit when they can’t find their baby’s heartbeat on the doppler. Like miss girl if you don’t put that away and wait for your doctor to give you an ultrasound 😂
It occurred to me that one way to solve this would be to perform a C-section and hand Shayna a newborn placed for adoption, do the same w/Zona and hand her 6 newborns placed for adoption. However, I know there are ethical issues. But that would end this thing.
@@slideshowgurl I was just trying to come up w/a way to end the delusions. If you went along with it, these women could get past it. They also have something new to concentrate on -- the babies placed for adoption.
@@denisenoe1534 You don’t end a delusion by feeding into it. Also, they don’t just hand babies out for adoption. Do you really think these women would pass the extensive psychological tests? Home studies? Background checks? Parenting classes? Financial requirements!? One of them is literally living in a shed! It takes a LOT to adopt a child… I would know, my sister and are adopted and our parents went through YEARS of being vetted by adoption agencies and lawyers. There is no way giving a baby to these unstable women would ever end well…
@@slideshowgurl The usual vetting would be impossible -- literally impossible as the women wouldn't know they were adopting. My hope is that their delusions reflect an actual DESIRE for children which would lead to their taking good care of any babies given to them. It might not be legal to end the delusions this way. I was hoping that the process of caring for a baby -- or babies -- would lead them to concentrate on that instead of fantasies.
We had a woman come into the ER stating she was in labor. We put the doppler on and there was no baby's heartbeat. She kept saying she knew she was pregnant. She told us her doctor had told her she had a tumor and needed a hysterectomy, but she wouldn't let him do that because she knew she was pregnant. The other nurse and I had to hide our tears because she really wanted a baby so badly. We were also worried about her life in case the tumor was cancerous. So sad.
Well they should have told her they have to take it c-section, and did the hysterectomy. Crazy people can't make their own decisions, and this 100% would have been a life saving decision.
In the case of Shayna, she seems to be suffering from other medical conditions like being prediabetic which has caused her pregnancy symptoms. Zona? Well, she seems to suffer from a very rare, but none the less well documented case of false or phantom pregnancy. Dopplers are more of a security blanket for expectant mother. Since they've been known to pick up a lot of other noises, you really can't use them to tell if you're pregnant.
Well honestly if you look it up on the internet it’s common, and they said it on the show. Shayna has PCOS which can cause infertility and pregnancy symptoms without being pregnant
My daughter had the same condition. She was misdiagnosed when I took her in to get checked the first time because she wasn't getting her period. The drs didn't seem to make a big deal about it so it went on for a few years. I noticed she had gained a lot of weight and even though she tried to workout she couldn't lose it. One evening while we were out having dinner, she got really sick she couldn't eat, and was complaining about pain on one of her sides. I took her to the ER they found out she had a huge cyst on her ovary, she ended up getting surgery that night. A few years later she was pregnant they found out she had another one, so once again, she had to go in for surgery. These things are no joke you need to get treated ASAP
i honestly feel bad for those women, I was sexually abused by my ex and while he luckily didn't take my virginity, I was convinced that I was pregnant and took pregnancy tests which were still negative. 9 months later and I sometimes i still get those irrational thoughts and I fear that soon enough I'll actually have one without knowing and that terrifies me
@@The_DC_Kid 1st learn how to write, 2nd if you don’t have anything good or encouragement to say, don’t say it, keep it to yourself :). And 3rd, don’t like your own comment, that’s just desperation 😂
@@h3rrah224I just read my comment and can see it's written perfectly well but when I re-read your original post and see broken sentences and odd capitalization it makes me realize you can't be anything BUT a troll. Your story was sad but not fully comprehensible. You said it yourself: you have irrational thoughts. See a mental health professional.
@@h3rrah224 there was nothing that was extremely incomprehensible about her comment, I read it perfectly clear. And it’s quite rude to point out that it makes no sense when it doesn’t matter. What she’s saying is more important. If you’re able to understand what is being said, then no need to act like an English teacher on TH-cam. Especially when it’s completely unnecessary and invalidating to a sensitive topic
Can you imagine doing an ultrasound and also being a dr that delivered 8000 babies to have these women say “you didn’t do a thorough exam” or “you barely looksz
I'd like to see a surgeon take out their uteruses then, after they wake up, turn them inside out and shake them out like when you clean out a purse, right in front of them. I think that's the only proof they're going to accept.
what i love about Phil, is that even when explaining to one woman that she should consider the fact that she maybe isnt pregnant. he defends her againt the other woman and clears up that this is between those two and not her. Phil is so professional and mature and thats why he is amazing
He laid the smack down! You can tell Zona was jealous of Shayna for her now getting the spotlight and all of dr Phil's attention. She couldn't keep her mouth shut like "look at me! Look at me!"
The doctor is being so kind and helpful, she's explaining everything in detail and is really trying to give them good information- they are straight up ignoring her and being so disrespectful! Like she's trying to tell them that they might have a serious health issue that may be causing the issue and they're completely in denial!!
You know deep down inside that amazing doctor would love to tell these two macadamia nuts that they need to go to a psych ward. but she handle it so professionally. 😂😂😂
I've been pregnant twice and I'm currently pregnant, listened to their heartbeats a lot. Their dopplers are picking up their own heartbeats, the baby would have a much faster heartbeat.
I had PCOS and it was awful. I had many miscarriages trying to get pregnant. I cannot imagine seeing an ultrasound and beingthis far in denial. I feel fortunate that I had support and my wits about me. I feel bad that they are so far in denial that they still reject the truth.
I have PCOS and I'm 7 months pregnant. I didn't really try for a baby until I was married for almost 10 years. We got pregnant pretty fast but I have been treating my PCOS for a very long time.
I was at the cardiac clinic today, and they used a doppler to listen to my abdominal artery. When I heard my heart beat I couldn't stop laughing, cause all I could think of was this episode of Dr. Phil. The technician probably thought I was crazy.
They’re just mad the doctors aren’t saying what fits their narrative. They both obviously want to be pregnant so bad that’s why they’re doing this game
This baffles me like one ultrasound should be enough these doctors have trained and studied for years and worked so hard and it would annoy you so much for them to say “IM pregnant and I don’t care if the ultrasound says no “ and with Shayna she was 0.1 away from being diabetic why doesn’t that worry her
As someone who has been pregnant twice dopplers can also pick up your own heartbeat so if they hear a heartbeat and it’s really light they could be hearing their own
Love how she roasted the doctor the whole time but when Dr. Phil called her out on it she agreed with him every 4 seconds that she’s a wonderful physician
I knew someone who was very sadly sexually assaulted. The trauma caused serious mental problems with her, including the belief that she was pregnant from the assault no matter how many doctors she went to. She thought she was 11 months pregnant and was so scared. Her delusion lasted a very long time and it was extremely sad to watch.
They could cut these women wide open, take out every single organ and piece of ANYTHING they find. These women could literally be hollow shells, and, if they were conscious, STILL claim there's babies somewhere. These poor souls... 🤦♀️😢
She’s not dead. She was arrested in March 2022 for drug possession and driving without a license. Oh yeah and now she’s pregnant with NINE babies. The carnival of crazy continues ...
Edit: I forgot to mention I'm 25yo I may not know what a pregnancy feels like but I have a thyroid condition that messes up my hormones so much, so I know how it feels to be hormonal. At this time I've also stopped getting my period. I wasn't pregnant, but that would be most women's first thought. I haven't gotten better and my period hasn't come back for 18 months. And I have a huge appetite and I've gained like 10 lbs. BUT IM NOT PREGNANT. It's exactly what these women are describing.
00:38 "I'm just glad that you're taking the time to do this and to help, it's emotional and it shouldn't be, you know, it's a blessing not a bad thing"........ these are the words of a woman seeking attention.
When you are suffering since a long time you start to become very sceptical of doctors and it works against you. I suffer from back pain that is very hard to manage with medications and I’ve noticed that I have a problem with almost every doctor I see that doesn’t give me a solution that puts an end to my pain. The only doctor I have a good relation with is the one that does my infiltrations. They suffer in their mind so much and have already decided what they have and that’s sad because it puts them beyond help until it clicks in their heads.
I thought cryptic pregnancy was when you didn’t know you was pregnant till giving birth. My sister gave birth to a baby and it was 4 weeks early she had not symptoms she didn’t show. They told her she had a cryptic pregnancy. Unfortunately the baby didn’t survive because she had preclampsia that’s why she went into labor
I feel a little bit bad for them. They're so convinced that they're pregnant that they can't see ehy they're completely and utterly wrong, and everything makes total sense inside their heads.
I'm not a nurse or doctor but I work in a hospital and some of good friends are nurses and doctors. If you are over the age 40+ and pregnant with multiples like this one lady believes. One you're going to be watched like the Golden goose because the pregnancy will be high risk to mother and babies. 2 you probably deliver fairly early. Also this woman had a full medical work up including ultrasound. She probably hears her own heart beat
I just watched the full episode. The First Lady stated at the end of the show that a doctor told her she may have stage 4 bladder cancer...and this was back in 2018. When dr Phil asked her about it she laughed it off...I really hope she got help
My heart just breaks for these women. They really thought (or still think) that they were pregnant. How horrible. I also feel terrible for the doctor who worked with these women. I'm sure she wanted to miraculously find babies in these women's uteruses.
Hi Zona, did you deliver yet? I just went through this. But mine was an ovarian cyst that made me feel pregnant. Maybe you have a cyst? Wishing you the best.
I actually feel really sad when I watch this. My heart breaks for them, maybe they want to be pregnant and thinking they are gives them comfort or maybe it helps them when they're going through a hard time. I hope whatever it is that they recieve the help they need so that they can be happy. 😅❤
When they are using the dopler, you can clearly see her stomach. And while it is large, it is not the shape of pregnant belly. It is evenly distributed cellulite...
I’m sorry but the “there’s babies in here, I know there’s babies” was too funny. 😂 I hope they both got the help they needed.. it’s a sad situation for women that go through phantom pregnancies.
I'm not a doctor and I'm a male, so there are things that I won't understand with this said I was under the impression that when mother went past the due date they would take the baby out by C-section? If correct why don't the moms insist? Side note, it really irks me the ladies think the whole medical profession is wrong and their right
I just had my first ultrasound ever. I had a few of little bubble looking things on the ultra sound. Am I pregnant with 3-4 babies? Nope it’s fibroids. 🤦🏻♀️
The other lady said "depends on how im laying" again its your heart beat and yea depending on you position or thr position of the doppler ur gonna faintly hear ur own heart beat and you hear her say "i guess i dont hear it today" if there was a baby you'd be able to hear it all the time not just ever so often
As shown in the video, Phantom Pregnancies can be incredibly distressing, upsetting, and traumatic for the person suffering from them. A bit of compassion, and understanding wouldn't go amiss. They are not "crazy", they're just convinced there is something there, even if it isn't. Is someone suffering from a schizoaffective disorder an idiot because they have visual/auditory hallucinations? No! So why should these women be subjected to such vile comments, when they could potentially be suffering from conditions that may not be as different as you think... Mental health shows itself in a vast array of forms. ALWAYS think twice before you open your mouth! 🧠
I agree with you so much, most people want to think they support people with mental illness, but only if those illnesses are "socially acceptable". If not, people suffering are just the butts of jokes again, if not worse.
Nah.. they found out vital information that could keep them healthy, that's what you call compassion. These women harass doctors, doctor shop, and are incredibly rude. No wonder they have family strife.
She hears her pulse? Let them think they’re pregnant for 5 years if they want.....what’s the deal....?? They don’t want to hear the truth......nothing can change that but them.
Comment below stating that this doctor is so professional is synonymous to saying the water is wet! He’s a trained physician and it’s his profession to be professional. 🙂
Dr. Alla Barney I Love you you're a great doctor in A brave one and you are compassionate I saw the tears in your eyes when I was on the stage on 9923 I was diagnosed with kidney cancer I love you all I'm remember times are changing we're going to have a new world soon so be a part of it be kind and loving to one another love mom is he
The doctor is so professional and they completely insult her.
That's because their brains fried out of desperation and stupidity.
Exactly , I’m appalled for that doctor and at those women insulting her intelligence
not shayna just zona
Would you really feel insulted by those two lunatics?? 😂😂😂 I'm sure she just felt bad for them... Ik I would
@@bmk256No, Shayna too. She kept saying the doctor didn't do her job properly and wasn't looking, basically insinuating she didn't know how to do her job
That doctor is so professional
And pretty
@@liladjgal1204 And that too! I love her brown hair!
you can see her taking deep gulps like she's fighting back the words to tell these two women what delusional worlds they live in. they got ultrasounds, blood test, professional doppler (or could not produce heartbeats on their own for anyone to witness), yet they still think the doctor missed their pregnancy. even after being told "look you are pre-diabetic, have pcos, see your doctor..." they still won't concede. she must be so frustrated and swallowing some choice words!!!! very professional.
Don’t worry doc she just needs a gym membership
She must have been so pissed.
I literally do not understand the logic of "this medical professional has spent 10+ years completing med school + residency, but they're wrong because somehow I know more than them". So ignorant...
I understand what you’re saying. But we have to understand that they’re probably mentally very ill. For them this is real. I guess that’s why it’s so hard to make them see how irrational their behavior seems to us. No hate. I agree with your comment. I just feel like there is more to it than just being ignorant. (Or there is something that makes them ignorant)
@@simonamelody5571 Yeah totally, I agree that they both probably have some stuff going on under the hood, it also seems like they both have a crippling confirmation bias that won’t let them accept contrasting information which is very unfortunate, especially when their physical heath is compromised as well. Thanks for your reply!
@@horsegirl97100 yes i agree. It’s totally unfortunate. Still so hard to fully understand and believe how they feel this way. I hope for not only their mental health, but also for the sake of their physical health that they were able to get help. Thanks for your reply too.
This is how anti-vaxxers think.
"I know my body" and "I researched it on the internet" are two of the most hated phrases among doctors. These women spout both them. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect. They're so ignorant, about medical science and the human reproductive system and anatomy, that they can't even comprehend how ignorant they are. They don't show any signs of being psychologically unstable in any other aspect of their lives, they lead normal lives, it's just in this particular area they talk like nincompoops. So I agree with your original comment, I think it really is ignorance. And anyone can be ignorant, I'm ignorant about welding, so I certainly wouldn't lecture a welding expert on how to weld something.
She is a VERY professional doctor. And she’s very educated. Y’all ain’t pregnant go sit down. 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not go sit down!’
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I hollered
those are not pregnant bellies... pregnant bellies tend to be firm, and these women have bellies that spill over to the side when they sit down.
yes agree
Sorry but that cracked me up🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♀️
Not all pregnant bellies are hard and the bellies do fall to the side. Depending on how much you weigh before you are pregnant.
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I’m 14 weeks and my belly isn’t firm
They are desperate to have children and can't admit that.
Its funny cause the one in red said she didnt even want to have a child😭 she said she would be happy if she wasnt pregnant😂
@@jessicac4476 But she is so adamant that she is pregnant. Watch what they do, not what they say. Words are cheap 🙂
@@alcoholandfun243 i get what ur saying but she believes that she's pregnant but she literally said I forget what it was in this video or another video that she would be so happy that if she wasn't pregnant cuz she didn't even want a kid
@@jessicac4476 I know she said that. However, I am sure deep down she knows that's a lie.
Y did she get her tubes tied at age 20? Zona might even have cancer, she had no medical insurance I hope she’s still alive
She said the ultrasound was “like two seconds long.” I was 8 weeks when I had my first ultrasound and it only took the ultrasound technician literally seconds to find the baby. I was shocked at how quickly she found the baby and checked everything honestly. Thorough but very quick. They know what they’re doing and looking for.
Yeah they see that little sweeties big as day. It's like a little fluttering grain of rice.
Same here. My technician put the scannerthing on my stomach and found the baby right away. Literally in 0.5 seconds.
I remember. I was only like 4-5 weeks pregnant when I saw my little bean and her little heart beating 💗
Yeah and then she changed it to two minutes when dr phil tried to explain it to her
You utuerus doesn’t move
Was nobody going to tell these women that the "fetal heartbeats" they're hearing with their home doppler devices were their own pulses? I've worked with doppler ultrasounds on pregnant women and a normal fetal heartbeat is above 100, and you can clearly see on one of the ladies' dopplers at 1:02 is reading 55. They're just moving it around their bellies, waiting to get a reading when in actuality they're just finding their own abdominal arterial pulses....
It’s crazy. A lot of people that buy dopplers don’t realize that. And some expectant moms will send themselves into a fit when they can’t find their baby’s heartbeat on the doppler. Like miss girl if you don’t put that away and wait for your doctor to give you an ultrasound 😂
EXACTLY!! That was driving me crazy!
Yeah I've been saying the same thing lol
My babies heart beat it currently 153 😇
@@bananabread349 congrats! That's pretty healthy. I think like 130 or so is the average
These women need psychological help. The adoption agencies, fertility clinics and maternity wards should be given notice about them for safety's sake.
It occurred to me that one way to solve this would be to perform a C-section and hand Shayna a newborn placed for adoption, do the same w/Zona and hand her 6 newborns placed for adoption. However, I know there are ethical issues. But that would end this thing.
@@denisenoe1534 that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
@@slideshowgurl I was just trying to come up w/a way to end the delusions. If you went along with it, these women could get past it. They also have something new to concentrate on -- the babies placed for adoption.
@@denisenoe1534 You don’t end a delusion by feeding into it. Also, they don’t just hand babies out for adoption. Do you really think these women would pass the extensive psychological tests? Home studies? Background checks? Parenting classes? Financial requirements!? One of them is literally living in a shed! It takes a LOT to adopt a child… I would know, my sister and are adopted and our parents went through YEARS of being vetted by adoption agencies and lawyers. There is no way giving a baby to these unstable women would ever end well…
@@slideshowgurl The usual vetting would be impossible -- literally impossible as the women wouldn't know they were adopting. My hope is that their delusions reflect an actual DESIRE for children which would lead to their taking good care of any babies given to them. It might not be legal to end the delusions this way. I was hoping that the process of caring for a baby -- or babies -- would lead them to concentrate on that instead of fantasies.
Anyone else wondering if they are still "pregnant" ?
Yes the one on the right with blue shirt claims to still be pregnant and now has said has 9 BABIES in her.
@@lesliealbarran whats her name? whered u find that out
zona has a whole facebook group
@@lesliealbarran 9 babies🤨
No, cuz there just fat lmaoo
“i am pregnant”
* gets an ultrasound showing no baby *
“i am still pregnant”
It’s in her second uterus... 😂😂😂
Lol 😂
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We had a woman come into the ER stating she was in labor. We put the doppler on and there was no baby's heartbeat. She kept saying she knew she was pregnant. She told us her doctor had told her she had a tumor and needed a hysterectomy, but she wouldn't let him do that because she knew she was pregnant. The other nurse and I had to hide our tears because she really wanted a baby so badly. We were also worried about her life in case the tumor was cancerous. So sad.
Well they should have told her they have to take it c-section, and did the hysterectomy. Crazy people can't make their own decisions, and this 100% would have been a life saving decision.
In the case of Shayna, she seems to be suffering from other medical conditions like being prediabetic which has caused her pregnancy symptoms. Zona? Well, she seems to suffer from a very rare, but none the less well documented case of false or phantom pregnancy.
Dopplers are more of a security blanket for expectant mother. Since they've been known to pick up a lot of other noises, you really can't use them to tell if you're pregnant.
Are you a doctor cause you seem to know about this stuff!
Well honestly if you look it up on the internet it’s common, and they said it on the show. Shayna has PCOS which can cause infertility and pregnancy symptoms without being pregnant
The only Doppler I trust is when I go to my OBGYN for my pregnancy appointment.
@@Inuko15 I would imagine they cause many panicked mothers who don’t know how to use them correctly a lot of grief.
@@blondesense1708 No doubt at all. I have one son and pregnant right now and if I couldn’t hear my baby’s heart beat, I’d certainly panic.
They're listening to their own heartbeat. Women's heartbeats can be heard by the lower abdominal...
My daughter had the same condition. She was misdiagnosed when I took her in to get checked the first time because she wasn't getting her period. The drs didn't seem to make a big deal about it so it went on for a few years. I noticed she had gained a lot of weight and even though she tried to workout she couldn't lose it. One evening while we were out having dinner, she got really sick she couldn't eat, and was complaining about pain on one of her sides. I took her to the ER they found out she had a huge cyst on her ovary, she ended up getting surgery that night. A few years later she was pregnant they found out she had another one, so once again, she had to go in for surgery. These things are no joke you need to get treated ASAP
i honestly feel bad for those women, I was sexually abused by my ex and while he luckily didn't take my virginity, I was convinced that I was pregnant and took pregnancy tests which were still negative. 9 months later and I sometimes i still get those irrational thoughts and I fear that soon enough I'll actually have one without knowing and that terrifies me
None of what you said makes sense.
@@The_DC_Kid 1st learn how to write, 2nd if you don’t have anything good or encouragement to say, don’t say it, keep it to yourself :). And 3rd, don’t like your own comment, that’s just desperation 😂
@@h3rrah224I just read my comment and can see it's written perfectly well but when I re-read your original post and see broken sentences and odd capitalization it makes me realize you can't be anything BUT a troll. Your story was sad but not fully comprehensible. You said it yourself: you have irrational thoughts. See a mental health professional.
@@h3rrah224 there was nothing that was extremely incomprehensible about her comment, I read it perfectly clear. And it’s quite rude to point out that it makes no sense when it doesn’t matter. What she’s saying is more important. If you’re able to understand what is being said, then no need to act like an English teacher on TH-cam. Especially when it’s completely unnecessary and invalidating to a sensitive topic
@@goos6005 right mb :)
Can you imagine doing an ultrasound and also being a dr that delivered 8000 babies to have these women say “you didn’t do a thorough exam” or “you barely looksz
he said 80,000
I can relate to this doctor Phil episode. I have PCS.
Oh how I've waited for the day for comments to open up for the 2 crazy women!and to Dr. Phil, we need an update on this one!
Yes definitely want to see updates!
The blonde woman is still saying she’s pregnant 5 years on😖, her name on Facebook is Zona eastham x
Shayna moved on and hasnt really brought up being pregnant.
Good on all these professionals staying serious and keeping a straight face.
Unfortunately, these woman will never trust a doctor and the test results
I wonder if it's only gynos they don't trust. And if one doesn't trust what a doctor tells them, why bother going?
I'm a man, I've been preggers for 6 years I'm going to call my twin baby's icecream and mayo.
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Aw how cute! What unique names🥰
@@rapunzaln1 thanks 😄🕊️👍
@@laurenk8617 thankyou 😀 I really love that people like it👍🕊️
Good luck 😃
"There are definitely babies in there... you can just barely hear their heartbeat .... *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam*"
Veins and arteries are a helluva thing
I'd like to see a surgeon take out their uteruses then, after they wake up, turn them inside out and shake them out like when you clean out a purse, right in front of them. I think that's the only proof they're going to accept.
Lmaooooo
“The baby slipped out of it, it’s still in me, just not in the uterus”
Lex Six yeah, it in her "back uterus".lol
@@megaroo6110 *opens up back*
Lex Six lol, like a hatchback. She has the Ford Pinto of uteruses.
what i love about Phil, is that even when explaining to one woman that she should consider the fact that she maybe isnt pregnant. he defends her againt the other woman and clears up that this is between those two and not her. Phil is so professional and mature and thats why he is amazing
He laid the smack down! You can tell Zona was jealous of Shayna for her now getting the spotlight and all of dr Phil's attention. She couldn't keep her mouth shut like "look at me! Look at me!"
on the doppler they’re just hearing their own heartbeat haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop
It would be a still birth, it would be as hard as a stone.
Yep. It would calcify like the woman who was pregnant for 30 years. She was REALLY pregnant.
The doctor is being so kind and helpful, she's explaining everything in detail and is really trying to give them good information- they are straight up ignoring her and being so disrespectful!
Like she's trying to tell them that they might have a serious health issue that may be causing the issue and they're completely in denial!!
You know deep down inside that amazing doctor would love to tell these two macadamia nuts that they need to go to a psych ward. but she handle it so professionally. 😂😂😂
I've been pregnant twice and I'm currently pregnant, listened to their heartbeats a lot. Their dopplers are picking up their own heartbeats, the baby would have a much faster heartbeat.
I had PCOS and it was awful. I had many miscarriages trying to get pregnant. I cannot imagine seeing an ultrasound and beingthis far in denial. I feel fortunate that I had support and my wits about me. I feel bad that they are so far in denial that they still reject the truth.
I have PCOS and I'm 7 months pregnant. I didn't really try for a baby until I was married for almost 10 years. We got pregnant pretty fast but I have been treating my PCOS for a very long time.
”Never underestimate the power of denial”
"Its real!"
"Bam Bam Bam"
.......that sums it all up
my lord. I can smell the delusion from here
I was at the cardiac clinic today, and they used a doppler to listen to my abdominal artery. When I heard my heart beat I couldn't stop laughing, cause all I could think of was this episode of Dr. Phil. The technician probably thought I was crazy.
They’re just mad the doctors aren’t saying what fits their narrative. They both obviously want to be pregnant so bad that’s why they’re doing this game
This baffles me like one ultrasound should be enough these doctors have trained and studied for years and worked so hard and it would annoy you so much for them to say “IM pregnant and I don’t care if the ultrasound says no “ and with Shayna she was 0.1 away from being diabetic why doesn’t that worry her
She was so nice to them no matter how rude they were
As someone who has been pregnant twice dopplers can also pick up your own heartbeat so if they hear a heartbeat and it’s really light they could be hearing their own
Love how she roasted the doctor the whole time but when Dr. Phil called her out on it she agreed with him every 4 seconds that she’s a wonderful physician
That OBGYN is amazing 👏🏽
So professional and beautiful!!
If a doctor tells you you aren’t pregnant after doing a FULL EXAM, you aren’t PREGNANT DUDE
That’s the most ignorant and dumbest comment yet
One woman is smoking not a great decision
Good one :), although I bet if you asked her she'd say she wasn't.
@@goodheaps lol
I like that clap back Dr Phil did at the end 😄 straight up told her just how foolish she had been.
I think she’s just depressed due to something that happened in the past related to this topic. This is a coping mechanism
Pcos is a condition common for women in child barring years. Glad she found that sooner than later. That condition can be dangerous of untreated
I knew someone who was very sadly sexually assaulted. The trauma caused serious mental problems with her, including the belief that she was pregnant from the assault no matter how many doctors she went to. She thought she was 11 months pregnant and was so scared. Her delusion lasted a very long time and it was extremely sad to watch.
Im 8 months pregnant and if i had to go threw this for 2 years i would have said no fuk thank u. These lady r crazy.
They could cut these women wide open, take out every single organ and piece of ANYTHING they find. These women could literally be hollow shells, and, if they were conscious, STILL claim there's babies somewhere. These poor souls... 🤦♀️😢
It is sad for those women. They think pregnant for three years. They really need some help. I hope that they get it.
They are enabling comments on all these old videos?
Is this lady still Alive???? I really want to know if the cancer finally got her. No shade, just curious. 😕
according to a post i read, yes, she is dead
She has a Facebook page and claims to now be pregnant with nine babies
@@KeniQilin what post was this, where is it, would not shock me if she pasts away.
@@tinahuttner7280 apparently another user said it to be fair im not surprised
She’s not dead. She was arrested in March 2022 for drug possession and driving without a license. Oh yeah and now she’s pregnant with NINE babies. The carnival of crazy continues ...
Edit: I forgot to mention I'm 25yo
I may not know what a pregnancy feels like but I have a thyroid condition that messes up my hormones so much, so I know how it feels to be hormonal. At this time I've also stopped getting my period. I wasn't pregnant, but that would be most women's first thought. I haven't gotten better and my period hasn't come back for 18 months. And I have a huge appetite and I've gained like 10 lbs. BUT IM NOT PREGNANT. It's exactly what these women are describing.
I have PCOS but i didn't think i was pregnant, i had many symptoms that diagnosed what i had. i hope these women get the help they need
00:38 "I'm just glad that you're taking the time to do this and to help, it's emotional and it shouldn't be, you know, it's a blessing not a bad thing"........ these are the words of a woman seeking attention.
Women in my culture used to say there is a baby stuck in their womb for years to justify why their period stops and to not make them self looks old
When you are suffering since a long time you start to become very sceptical of doctors and it works against you. I suffer from back pain that is very hard to manage with medications and I’ve noticed that I have a problem with almost every doctor I see that doesn’t give me a solution that puts an end to my pain. The only doctor I have a good relation with is the one that does my infiltrations. They suffer in their mind so much and have already decided what they have and that’s sad because it puts them beyond help until it clicks in their heads.
The Doctor did a great job. They should have had a mental health exam also.
I thought cryptic pregnancy was when you didn’t know you was pregnant till giving birth. My sister gave birth to a baby and it was 4 weeks early she had not symptoms she didn’t show. They told her she had a cryptic pregnancy. Unfortunately the baby didn’t survive because she had preclampsia that’s why she went into labor
You thought right these two are using term for their condition even though they explained what a cryptic pregnancy is, they didn't want to accept it
These women look so heart broken about the results
SIde note, the music at 1:14 sounds like something out of a Super Mario game lol!
These Dopplers are too easily available. There are so many women buying these thinking that they’re pregnant when they’re not.
I feel a little bit bad for them. They're so convinced that they're pregnant that they can't see ehy they're completely and utterly wrong, and everything makes total sense inside their heads.
Dr Phil ripping into Zona after she made, as the Dr said, smug comments, was just oh soooo satisfying 😌
I'm not a nurse or doctor but I work in a hospital and some of good friends are nurses and doctors. If you are over the age 40+ and pregnant with multiples like this one lady believes. One you're going to be watched like the Golden goose because the pregnancy will be high risk to mother and babies. 2 you probably deliver fairly early. Also this woman had a full medical work up including ultrasound. She probably hears her own heart beat
I just watched the full episode. The First Lady stated at the end of the show that a doctor told her she may have stage 4 bladder cancer...and this was back in 2018. When dr Phil asked her about it she laughed it off...I really hope she got help
So sad this two women need to see a psychologist not a obgyn
That Zona woman is extremely unlikable!
" I HAVE A DOPPLER!"
What she doesn’t understand is cryptic pregnancy IS real. She just DOESN’T HAVE IT
My heart just breaks for these women. They really thought (or still think) that they were pregnant. How horrible.
I also feel terrible for the doctor who worked with these women. I'm sure she wanted to miraculously find babies in these women's uteruses.
9-9-23 diagnosed with kidney I knew I was sick I am still pregnant and babies are doing great
Oh really? Still smoking too with multiples and advanced cancer also? Big brain activities.
Hi Zona, did you deliver yet? I just went through this. But mine was an ovarian cyst that made me feel pregnant. Maybe you have a cyst? Wishing you the best.
In 68 Dr's thought they heard my baby but she was full term 6.7 oz . But it was my heartbeat.
A lot of what you’re hearing from those Dopplers is your own heartbeat
I actually feel really sad when I watch this. My heart breaks for them, maybe they want to be pregnant and thinking they are gives them comfort or maybe it helps them when they're going through a hard time. I hope whatever it is that they recieve the help they need so that they can be happy. 😅❤
Tortured souls..poor ladies
She said she doesnt want to be pregnant tho
I love how that one chick is like
“ you weren’t thorough enough” like what does she want the doctors to do? Cut them open?
When they are using the dopler, you can clearly see her stomach. And while it is large, it is not the shape of pregnant belly. It is evenly distributed cellulite...
This is so sad. These poor women.
I’m sorry but the “there’s babies in here, I know there’s babies” was too funny. 😂 I hope they both got the help they needed.. it’s a sad situation for women that go through phantom pregnancies.
Zona's arrogance knows no bounds.
I have Pcos. :( but never in my life for 15 years have I thought I was pregnant. These people are weird except you mr. dr. Phil
Mr.Dr
If I was the doctor I wouldve trashtalked these delusional women
I have a friend with PCOS who had these exact symptoms.
I'm not a doctor and I'm a male, so there are things that I won't understand with this said I was under the impression that when mother went past the due date they would take the baby out by C-section? If correct why don't the moms insist? Side note, it really irks me the ladies think the whole medical profession is wrong and their right
They believe the fetus is growing slowly and that's why its been years. No obgyn would perform surgery without confirmation of pregnancy.
These people are delusional if a doctor can't find a baby then its not there
I just had my first ultrasound ever. I had a few of little bubble looking things on the ultra sound. Am I pregnant with 3-4 babies?
Nope it’s fibroids. 🤦🏻♀️
These are the kinds of people that call other people sheep
these types of people need straight jackets. immediately. especially these two!
The other lady said "depends on how im laying" again its your heart beat and yea depending on you position or thr position of the doppler ur gonna faintly hear ur own heart beat and you hear her say "i guess i dont hear it today" if there was a baby you'd be able to hear it all the time not just ever so often
As shown in the video, Phantom Pregnancies can be incredibly distressing, upsetting, and traumatic for the person suffering from them. A bit of compassion, and understanding wouldn't go amiss.
They are not "crazy", they're just convinced there is something there, even if it isn't. Is someone suffering from a schizoaffective disorder an idiot because they have visual/auditory hallucinations? No!
So why should these women be subjected to such vile comments, when they could potentially be suffering from conditions that may not be as different as you think...
Mental health shows itself in a vast array of forms. ALWAYS think twice before you open your mouth! 🧠
I agree with you so much, most people want to think they support people with mental illness, but only if those illnesses are "socially acceptable". If not, people suffering are just the butts of jokes again, if not worse.
Nah.. they found out vital information that could keep them healthy, that's what you call compassion. These women harass doctors, doctor shop, and are incredibly rude. No wonder they have family strife.
“i know there’s babies in here. i got a doppler. i know there’s babies” 😭🤧😂
Such a weird statement ! Like a child.
Here in NYC, we have a woman panhandler who's been pregnant for at least 10 yrs that I know of.
Her: Bam, bam, bam
Doppler: .........
She hears her pulse?
Let them think they’re pregnant for 5 years if they want.....what’s the deal....??
They don’t want to hear the truth......nothing can change that but them.
I wonder how long these women keep up this facade, as the months go by and no baby is born. How long can a pregnancy last?
women in video:"there is baby here bam bam bam bam" ... nigga that's you stomach gases
Comment below stating that this doctor is so professional is synonymous to saying the water is wet!
He’s a trained physician and it’s his profession to be professional. 🙂
Dr. Alla Barney I Love you you're a great doctor in A brave one and you are compassionate I saw the tears in your eyes when I was on the stage on 9923 I was diagnosed with kidney cancer I love you all I'm remember times are changing we're going to have a new world soon so be a part of it be kind and loving to one another love mom is he
I hope these ladies can get some real help .... Cause this is crazy
Lady: bam bam bam bam
Monitor: *crickets*
So many people come on this show and are in so much denial, they try to act like they know more than the professionals.
These poor women are hearing things.
Damn Phil went IN at the end. Good for him
Not the older woman holding her stomach💀💀 honey you’re holding your gut😭