Hey Ted!! Strange seeing you out in the wild lol. Love your channel. And I agree, what's happening during his colonoscopys that would make him think of the procedure when working with solvents, sand paper an Mason jars?! Maybe I shouldn't ask, I have too much respect for Dan to make him relive that experience.
I heard that! I don’t remember anything remotely similar to solvents and sandpaper being involved. Or wire brushes! Yikes! Is it a cry for help? Should we assemble a rescue team and head to Ohio? Great tip though.👍
"Reminds me of having a colonoscopy." Lol, Dan. That line seems to have come out of nowhere, but it's always great to throw a bit of humor or something unexpected in there.
I'm a family practice PA, and part of my job is trying to convince guys to do a scope for cancer screening. A lot of them balk at the bowel prep. I tell them it's sorta like your garage. It's probably good to clean it out once in a while anyway.
Well it's friday night, I'm a musician, just got back from the store with enough brew for me, the missus, and any guests that drop by. Someone's getting a colonoscopy.
This is the first StewMac video I’ve seen, TH-cam suggested it. I have to say, I love how the information is presented. It’s like I’m having a chat neighbour or you buddy I’ve known forever. Fantastic presentation and awesome tip. Definitely worth subscribing to.
Nah, the thing about sandpaper is it’s virtually useless once the sharper grains get squared off. There is still room for gunk to get between the grains of sand but even once you get that gunk out of the sand paper its about worthless. If you run your finger across the sand paper you can feel the texture. Still not good… run your finger across new versus old sand paper…
@@gregjones3660 He is saying clean paper that is clogged up, not dull. Clogging does not mean the granules are worn down and no longer sharp. At some point you need to toss the paper but you can still clean it multiple times depending on the situation.
“…hardly worth making a video…” said no Dan Erlewine fan ever. You can get on camera and talk about pretty much anything you know about guitars/woodworking etc and we’re gonna watch it without any hesitation. Thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge with the world, no matter what it is.
I did try it with powerful industrial kitchen cleaning detergent. I had kept a really tatty belt as a template. I cleaned it it works and is now back in the sander. Best tip I have had from You Tube. Wish I had kept the other belts. Thank you .
For the last tip, if you don't have a paint strainer easily available, you can just use coffee filters. One might feel too flimsy, so you can double up and it works fantastic!
No it doesn't. I'm 99% sure you've never tried it but you came up with this idea in your head and it sounded like a good idea. Why in the world you'd make a comment about it as if you're an expert - God only knows. I hope this phenomena will get a good name and be thoroughly investigated in the future to come, for interesting reading about human psyche.
@@LILLJE Well I tried it myself multiple times and it works perfectly. So, youre the person without a clue here, making things up in your head. Luckily there is a name for people like you: Offended Karens. The funny thing about it is: That you brag around he didnt try, but you didnt even try it yourself. Otherwise you wouldve known it works.
@@LILLJE I actually did try it and like I said, it works fine. So now it's your turn to tell us if you have or haven't tried it, or if you just wanted to make a comment to sound smart on the internet. You seem pretty convinced that I don't know what I'm talking about. It's pretty simple to put it to the test
@@LILLJE yeah I stopped using coffee filters because most liquids just refuse to go through them at speed higher than 2 drops every forever and a half. Now I use a funnel and a cotton ball at the bottom of the neck of that funnel (both in the kitchen and the workshop) ((different funnels for kitchen and workshop...) edit: typo
I hate trowing things out. If I can fix it, I will. Even little things. I have a Shop Vac I've been using for over 20 years. I replaced the On/Off switch about 10 years ago. This little trick you showed us here is awesome. I don't have a large sander like you but my brain is telling me I can use that solvent to solve similar problems. Thanks for that great tip.
I work with I.T., but for some reason I found this video so entertaining that made me subscribe to your channel. looking forward to seeing more of your content on my feed.
I don't know why TH-cam thinks I need to know about this, but I wholeheartedly enjoyed it. A nice craftsman sharing a neat little trick in the nicest way. Very wholesome and who knows, I do sand small stuff from time to time, maybe this will come in handy at some point!
1:45.... "It reminds me of having a Colonoscopy".. LOL Thanks for the great tip. I build cabinets and guitars and have thrown countless belts away over the years.
I've been using Simple Green the exact same way for years. This just may be the first Stooge Mac video I've seen that's not a commercial for one of their products. BRAVO, Dan the Man!
I have the powermatic drum sander and I've lost count on how much and how many of the sanding rolls I've bought and thrown away, until now. Nomore throwing them in the bin I'm going to be putting your Mason jar to the test for sure. Thank you for sharing and thank your friend for telling you about it 😊. All the best from the UK 🇬🇧
Dunno who this guy is and I've never had a reason to sand wood in my life, but I feel like I learned something valuable. Thank you for your experience.
Unbelievable! I was just trying to scratch away dry glue from a sandpaper roll when your video popped up on my screen. It was kind of sketchy... Thanks for your help!
Been here so many years always love your videos, especially when Dan is on video I really happy to watch even stuffs is not directly relate with me, Thanks for shared so many tips.
When I was in school in the 1970's I was told that about 4 billion people live on our beautifull world. Now we hear, that there will be 8 billion soon. The double within one generation. So such ideas and tips are extremely helpfull to save resources and our beautifull world. Thanks so much for your video.
I love that tip! Thanks a million! I used to employ my toothbrush and some bicarbonate of soda mixed with vinegar and barbecue sauce, but my teeth started going yellow and falling out, so I really appreciate your Hugely Hot Hint.
Dan Erlewine is fantastic. he makes his own tools when he needs them. many of his designs are made into tools that are sold by Stew Mac. I believe he must be Partially made of wood. and I mean that in a good way because he's an amazing woodworker. I've seen him do amazing things with wood involved in the building and repairing guitars. he is always coming up with very unique ideas like this idea. that he got from a friend and he decided to pass on to us. this is a brilliant idea and it probably will work on other sand papers besides on the sanding machine. and I like his sense of humor. and it leaves me to say there can't be anything to good about a colonoscopy LOL. well I have to say thanks again Dan. I have learned so much from you.
I used Original Krud Kutter. I bought a gallon at Walmart for $18. Worked GREAT! BTW I also use it as a lubricant for sharpening on my diamond stones. I already had it for that purpose so I thought I would give it a go for this. BTW - this is THE BEST how to video I have ever watched on youtube. You didn't waste my time or yours - just got straight to it and got it done!!
Great video--I never realized you could clean them this way. Before soaking them overnight in blade and bit cleaner you can try scrubbing with a hard wire brush under running hot water (possibly soaking a bit first). I learned that that is sufficient for many cases. If that fails then try the longer soak method described here. Someone below complained that the sandpaper is useless after the granules round off so the cleaning is pointless. It takes time for the dulling to happen--clogging doesn't mean your paper has worn down, so you can clean to restore to almost new.
Thanks Dan! I bought the supermax 19-38 sander/brush combo several years ago... I have never used the brushes, but bought that model because I wanted speed contrl of the drum.. That speed control on the drum has helped save many belts and given me the control I need for tough sanding projects.
Excellent tip Dan! Just ran some boards on my 22" and one had some finish that gunked it up pretty bad. Mason jar and some purple power degreaser worked like a charm! Cheers and thanks for sharing your experience!
Sir thank you for sharing. I usually don't throw sand paper out I simply find the areas that I can recuperate and cut those pieces out. When I do turning I use the portion I would otherwise throw away. Again very much appreciate you sharing this method for cleaning the belt.
Thanks so much for this tip. I don't build guitars (I play them) but I do a lot of wood carvings using the same types of woods. My sanding belts get all gummed up and dirty the same as your drum. This is going to save me some cash.
You are a genius - I'm not making guitars but I feel like the moment I break out a new circle of sandpaper it's immediately gunked with paint, finish, or other things those rubber sticks can't remove. Thanks very much man!
Great professional. The CNP is obviously terpenes. In Jacksonville they got a plant in early 90s that made all kinds of magic juice for exactly that purpose.
I use a suade brush thats made of brass, if anything is not coming off then I use a steel wire brush - great for cleaning files and router bits too. If you have to soak stuff, try white spirit (no idea what its called in the states but painters use it to thin paint and clean brushes)
There is another simple method Dan. Use a dry silicone cartridge that is used to seal the joints of the showers. You start the machine and go through the sandpaper and the dirt comes out.It is similar to the special rubber they sell and more effective
I see that you began installing the “miracle clean” sand paper at the inboard side of the drum. I too have done this…doesn’t seem to be as tight on the drum, but sufficient. Love my Supermax, that’s one improvement they could make, to switch the “stretcher” mechanism to the out board end of the drum.
Nice tip and interesting product. I've been using only water. Just soaking it for 2 or 3 hours and then rubbing with a nail brush. Then hang to dry. Cheers
I've had both. A Colonoscopy, and gummed belts. If only this treatment worked as well on my downstairs plumbing. I'm going to suggest this Vid to my Doctor!!! Thanks Dan.
where has this been all my life? I always thought that the parts that were gummed up was just the grit itself being rubbed away so I'd throw them out. It's good to know this now!
For the bulk of the thicknessing put the sides through at as much of an angle as possible and the back sideways (or angled if your drum isn't long enough). Sanding in line with the grain will gum up the belt in a few seconds on anything oily.
@@stewmac does help a lot even with cocobolo, I don't generally get resin build up like this most of the time these days: the paper type matters a lot too of course. 😁
Colonoscopy? Dan didnt say where he was during the process. Funny stuff. Great tip. And it works very well. I did start using a short length of 4 inch PVC to wrap the sandpaper to dry. Cut about the same length as the drum.
I will try this to clean my belts for reuse. I bought several brass bristle brushes, and after two passes thru the sander with whatever tropical wood I’m sanding, I then slightly open the lid while it is still running and run the brass brush side to side a few times. I get a much longer use time from the belt before it gets caked up with resin.
resins get dissolved in fat or oils, if it's not damaging to the tape you can use it. I use table oil to clean my hands sometimes. You could use soap to clean off the oil.
We need to speak with Dan's proctologist. Somethin's not right.
Hey Ted!! Strange seeing you out in the wild lol. Love your channel. And I agree, what's happening during his colonoscopys that would make him think of the procedure when working with solvents, sand paper an Mason jars?! Maybe I shouldn't ask, I have too much respect for Dan to make him relive that experience.
I heard that! I don’t remember anything remotely similar to solvents and sandpaper being involved. Or wire brushes!
Yikes! Is it a cry for help? Should we assemble a rescue team and head to Ohio?
Great tip though.👍
🤣
😂
LOL right. I broke out laughing for real on that comment. He was probably referring to the preparation procedure. That’s medieval.
"Reminds me of having a colonoscopy."
Lol, Dan. That line seems to have come out of nowhere, but it's always great to throw a bit of humor or something unexpected in there.
It does look a lot like the stuff you have to drink to clear your bowels before a colonoscopy, so he's not way off at all. Cracked me up too though!
I'm a family practice PA, and part of my job is trying to convince guys to do a scope for cancer screening. A lot of them balk at the bowel prep. I tell them it's sorta like your garage. It's probably good to clean it out once in a while anyway.
I wasn't actually sure I heard that right.
Well it's friday night, I'm a musician, just got back from the store with enough brew for me, the missus, and any guests that drop by. Someone's getting a colonoscopy.
that was fking funny =))
This is the first StewMac video I’ve seen, TH-cam suggested it. I have to say, I love how the information is presented. It’s like I’m having a chat neighbour or you buddy I’ve known forever.
Fantastic presentation and awesome tip. Definitely worth subscribing to.
Thanks!!
or like a nice grandpa
Nah, the thing about sandpaper is it’s virtually useless once the sharper grains get squared off. There is still room for gunk to get between the grains of sand but even once you get that gunk out of the sand paper its about worthless. If you run your finger across the sand paper you can feel the texture. Still not good… run your finger across new versus old sand paper…
@@gregjones3660 He is saying clean paper that is clogged up, not dull. Clogging does not mean the granules are worn down and no longer sharp. At some point you need to toss the paper but you can still clean it multiple times depending on the situation.
@@beautifulveneer yeah as long as we're using your muscles and time. No problemo...
“…hardly worth making a video…” said no Dan Erlewine fan ever. You can get on camera and talk about pretty much anything you know about guitars/woodworking etc and we’re gonna watch it without any hesitation. Thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge with the world, no matter what it is.
I did try it with powerful industrial kitchen cleaning detergent. I had kept a really tatty belt as a template. I cleaned it it works and is now back in the sander. Best tip I have had from You Tube. Wish I had kept the other belts. Thank you .
For the last tip, if you don't have a paint strainer easily available, you can just use coffee filters. One might feel too flimsy, so you can double up and it works fantastic!
Or use one of these 99 cent coffee filter holder plastic things (but dont use it for coffee anymore afterwards ;-))
No it doesn't. I'm 99% sure you've never tried it but you came up with this idea in your head and it sounded like a good idea. Why in the world you'd make a comment about it as if you're an expert - God only knows.
I hope this phenomena will get a good name and be thoroughly investigated in the future to come, for interesting reading about human psyche.
@@LILLJE Well I tried it myself multiple times and it works perfectly.
So, youre the person without a clue here, making things up in your head. Luckily there is a name for people like you: Offended Karens.
The funny thing about it is: That you brag around he didnt try, but you didnt even try it yourself. Otherwise you wouldve known it works.
@@LILLJE I actually did try it and like I said, it works fine. So now it's your turn to tell us if you have or haven't tried it, or if you just wanted to make a comment to sound smart on the internet. You seem pretty convinced that I don't know what I'm talking about. It's pretty simple to put it to the test
@@LILLJE yeah I stopped using coffee filters because most liquids just refuse to go through them at speed higher than 2 drops every forever and a half. Now I use a funnel and a cotton ball at the bottom of the neck of that funnel (both in the kitchen and the workshop) ((different funnels for kitchen and workshop...)
edit: typo
I hate trowing things out. If I can fix it, I will. Even little things. I have a Shop Vac I've been using for over 20 years. I replaced the On/Off switch about 10 years ago. This little trick you showed us here is awesome. I don't have a large sander like you but my brain is telling me I can use that solvent to solve similar problems. Thanks for that great tip.
I work with I.T., but for some reason I found this video so entertaining that made me subscribe to your channel. looking forward to seeing more of your content on my feed.
Thanks so much!
Shout-out to all the IT people watching wood-working videos.
I also work in IT and find myself here. Information technology, proctology, and woodworking. What a unique trio @1:43
Amazing. I have a horizontal belt sander at work that Gina up with glue and crud really quickly. I’m going to try this.
I don't know why TH-cam thinks I need to know about this, but I wholeheartedly enjoyed it. A nice craftsman sharing a neat little trick in the nicest way. Very wholesome and who knows, I do sand small stuff from time to time, maybe this will come in handy at some point!
Not only great for luthiers, but also us what do home woodworking. Thanks for this amazing tip.
Wowzer! That was one of the coolest tips/tricks I have ever seen.
1:45.... "It reminds me of having a Colonoscopy".. LOL
Thanks for the great tip. I build cabinets and guitars and have thrown countless belts away over the years.
Dan, you're a legend!! Excellent advice as always.
I use an old sneaker sole. works well. I also use a used entry door mat to clean my 5-inch sanding disk.
Brilliant. I have that exact machine and doing something like this has never crossed my mind. Thx
No problem 👍
That was a very pleasant and useful production 🥂
This is one of the most utilitarian things I’ve seen!
I've been using Simple Green the exact same way for years. This just may be the first Stooge Mac video I've seen that's not a commercial for one of their products. BRAVO, Dan the Man!
I have the powermatic drum sander and I've lost count on how much and how many of the sanding rolls I've bought and thrown away, until now. Nomore throwing them in the bin I'm going to be putting your Mason jar to the test for sure. Thank you for sharing and thank your friend for telling you about it 😊. All the best from the UK 🇬🇧
Now that!! Is an extremely useful tip! Thanks Dan.
Always time for Dan, even if it's only a 3 minute video. National treasure!
Nice trick. Good job.
Glad I found this. Always looking for ways to make consumables last longer.
Sharing is caring. 🙏 Thank you for all your contributions. Cheers 🍻
Genius! And earth friendly? That’s awesome!
Best video I have watched in quite some time!
LOVE! recycling and reusing is all the love for planet, good job
Dunno who this guy is and I've never had a reason to sand wood in my life, but I feel like I learned something valuable. Thank you for your experience.
Oh wow. Thank you for sharing this awesome trick.
Dan is my hero - He reminds me of a highschool shop teacher - great guy
Unbelievable! I was just trying to scratch away dry glue from a sandpaper roll when your video popped up on my screen. It was kind of sketchy... Thanks for your help!
The algorithm blessed you this day
Perfect timing!
So helpful! Thank you! Stay healthy.
Perfect timing as I just had this from sanding a rosewood fretboard too heavily. Will give this a try
Yup... earned the "like" sharing this nugget of information
Been here so many years always love your videos, especially when Dan is on video I really happy to watch even stuffs is not directly relate with me, Thanks for shared so many tips.
Thanks Dan. Great tip!
Thanks Dan
When I was in school in the 1970's I was told that about 4 billion people live on our beautifull world. Now we hear, that there will be 8 billion soon. The double within one generation. So such ideas and tips are extremely helpfull to save resources and our beautifull world. Thanks so much for your video.
I love that tip! Thanks a million! I used to employ my toothbrush and some bicarbonate of soda mixed with vinegar and barbecue sauce, but my teeth started going yellow and falling out, so I really appreciate your Hugely Hot Hint.
Dan Erlewine is fantastic. he makes his own tools when he needs them. many of his designs are made into tools that are sold by Stew Mac. I believe he must be Partially made of wood. and I mean that in a good way because he's an amazing woodworker. I've seen him do amazing things with wood involved in the building and repairing guitars. he is always coming up with very unique ideas like this idea. that he got from a friend and he decided to pass on to us. this is a brilliant idea and it probably will work on other sand papers besides on the sanding machine. and I like his sense of humor. and it leaves me to say there can't be anything to good about a colonoscopy LOL. well I have to say thanks again Dan. I have learned so much from you.
I love any and all of the Dan videos. Keep up the great work!
I used Original Krud Kutter. I bought a gallon at Walmart for $18. Worked GREAT! BTW I also use it as a lubricant for sharpening on my diamond stones. I already had it for that purpose so I thought I would give it a go for this.
BTW - this is THE BEST how to video I have ever watched on youtube. You didn't waste my time or yours - just got straight to it and got it done!!
That’s a great tip! I have a shoebox full of clogged belts just waiting for something like this.
Wait, WHAT?! My mind is blown! Thanks, Dan!
Neat way to recycle, it actually reminds me of the time I recycled a book shelf from an old Book case into a shelf for my Brother's Closet
Great video--I never realized you could clean them this way. Before soaking them overnight in blade and bit cleaner you can try scrubbing with a hard wire brush under running hot water (possibly soaking a bit first). I learned that that is sufficient for many cases. If that fails then try the longer soak method described here. Someone below complained that the sandpaper is useless after the granules round off so the cleaning is pointless. It takes time for the dulling to happen--clogging doesn't mean your paper has worn down, so you can clean to restore to almost new.
Really good tip, thanks
Thanks Dan! I bought the supermax 19-38 sander/brush combo several years ago... I have never used the brushes, but bought that model because I wanted speed contrl of the drum.. That speed control on the drum has helped save many belts and given me the control I need for tough sanding projects.
Excellent tip Dan! Just ran some boards on my 22" and one had some finish that gunked it up pretty bad. Mason jar and some purple power degreaser worked like a charm! Cheers and thanks for sharing your experience!
Sir thank you for sharing. I usually don't throw sand paper out I simply find the areas that I can recuperate and cut those pieces out. When I do turning I use the portion I would otherwise throw away. Again very much appreciate you sharing this method for cleaning the belt.
Thanks so much for this tip. I don't build guitars (I play them) but I do a lot of wood carvings using the same types of woods. My sanding belts get all gummed up and dirty the same as your drum. This is going to save me some cash.
Thanks for sharing that with us
You are a genius - I'm not making guitars but I feel like the moment I break out a new circle of sandpaper it's immediately gunked with paint, finish, or other things those rubber sticks can't remove. Thanks very much man!
Glad we could help!
Great professional. The CNP is obviously terpenes. In Jacksonville they got a plant in early 90s that made all kinds of magic juice for exactly that purpose.
I like your presentation style. Excellent
Needed this information! Thanks for taking the time to make a video!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent tip to reduce waste of material and time! Thanks for helping us be more efficient sir!
Great tip! I've been picking the resin off with a small pick for years. It's tedious and doesn't work very well. Going to try this ASAP!
Awesome. Let us know how it goes! 👍
aSAP
How did it work?
And the bobbin sander tubes. Nice1 team.
Great tip Dan
Fantastic tip. Thanks!!
Wow, that's super cool. I'll use that. Thanks as always.
Excellent tip! I've used CMT for years on saws and bits. I never thought of trying to use it on sandpaper.
Fantastic idea!
Thank u for this... would not have thought of using a solvent on em.
I am such a huge fan of a sustainably oriented workshop. I love the tip
100% worth making a video for! THANK YOU FOR THE TIP!
Another great tip from the master! Now I can save my Dremel tool sanding drums. I bet this works on the grinding stones too!
As long as they are not paper backed it should work. :)
Great idea from your friend. Thanks for sharing.
I use a suade brush thats made of brass, if anything is not coming off then I use a steel wire brush - great for cleaning files and router bits too. If you have to soak stuff, try white spirit (no idea what its called in the states but painters use it to thin paint and clean brushes)
I gonna try that with white spirit right away!
There is another simple method Dan. Use a dry silicone cartridge that is used to seal the joints of the showers. You start the machine and go through the sandpaper and the dirt comes out.It is similar to the special rubber they sell and more effective
Does it really work better than the “traditional” one?!
@@TylrVncnt
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It works 👌
I see that you began installing the “miracle clean” sand paper at the inboard side of the drum. I too have done this…doesn’t seem to be as tight on the drum, but sufficient. Love my Supermax, that’s one improvement they could make, to switch the “stretcher” mechanism to the out board end of the drum.
Great tip! Thanks.
Nice tip and interesting product. I've been using only water. Just soaking it for 2 or 3 hours and then rubbing with a nail brush. Then hang to dry.
Cheers
I've had both. A Colonoscopy, and gummed belts. If only this treatment worked as well on my downstairs plumbing.
I'm going to suggest this Vid to my Doctor!!!
Thanks Dan.
Thanks for sharing Dan.
Dan & Team are full of so much great knowledge. Please keep making these videos & sharing all of this wonderful knowledge with the world.
where has this been all my life? I always thought that the parts that were gummed up was just the grit itself being rubbed away so I'd throw them out. It's good to know this now!
Awesome tip! thanks Dan!
Fantastic trick! ... Now, what if I foolishly forget to scrape off dried Titebond before feeding wood through the sander? Would water work?
Thanks, Dan! That's an great money saver and trash reducer.
Thank you for taking the time to share this is an awesome insight into a problem I wouldn't have readily seen without you!
For the bulk of the thicknessing put the sides through at as much of an angle as possible and the back sideways (or angled if your drum isn't long enough). Sanding in line with the grain will gum up the belt in a few seconds on anything oily.
Definitely true. African Blackwood and Cocobolo are particularly hard on drumsander paper no matter which way you put it through. 🙂
@@stewmac does help a lot even with cocobolo, I don't generally get resin build up like this most of the time these days: the paper type matters a lot too of course. 😁
Colonoscopy? Dan didnt say where he was during the process. Funny stuff. Great tip. And it works very well. I did start using a short length of 4 inch PVC to wrap the sandpaper to dry. Cut about the same length as the drum.
Super handy trick! Thanks for sharing :)
Excellent Tip. THANKS 👍👍
though i really try not to sand because I really don't like to, this is a good tip to know. Thank you for sharing!
I will try this to clean my belts for reuse. I bought several brass bristle brushes, and after two passes thru the sander with whatever tropical wood I’m sanding, I then slightly open the lid while it is still running and run the brass brush side to side a few times. I get a much longer use time from the belt before it gets caked up with resin.
resins get dissolved in fat or oils, if it's not damaging to the tape you can use it. I use table oil to clean my hands sometimes. You could use soap to clean off the oil.
I Love Dan's videos!!!
Awesome trick, thanks!!
As Usual, Another Great Dan Tip !!!
Thanks Dan !
Hello Dan, hope you are doing well!
That’s awesome information. Thank You, Dan!🙂
I always cleaned my sanding paper using a root brush and running warm water, works too :)
Thank you I too have thrown these out
Fantastic Dan, thank you for sharing.
My busy bee belt sander thanks you.
That is a neat trick, I’m going to try it on my sanding drums that I use on my drill and see if it works to rejuvenate those drums to new again.