I would've liked to have seen 75+, but it did what it needed to do on the inclines. Maybe it'll get a little stronger with more time as it's barely broken in right now.
Very nice work on the test drive. I found it very interesting. I liked these Halcyon bikes from the first time seeing them. Good to know that they are not just for looks alone. I’d love to have one of these, but I’ve already got three bikes in the garage. My wife has informed me that, if I get another motorcycle, she will initiate divorce proceedings.
The Janus is a bit of an odd character, it's a stark contrast to the GT. That's what I wanted though, if I'm going to have 2 bikes I wanted them to be nothing like each other. There's almost a relearning process when I switch bikes as they are so far apart from each other. I had to convince my wife I "needed" a small, slow bike :)
Nice! My H250 #854 with stage 4 plus, will top out around 85+ I cruise it at 65 most of the time no issues. That moto cult mod made it THE bike, an H450, without the extra weight penalty, handles like a dream and is the most fun I have ver had on 2 wheels!
It's a nimble bike for sure! Idve like to have seen it top out above 75mph but it did the important (to me) part which was hold the speed limit through the inclines. This video is probably the only time I'll run it this fast.
I had to put it out there but it's kind of useless info as my bike is kind of unique and doesn't really compare well with a stock bike or a typical upgraded bike either... mine is in between the two.
That is great speed for a 250cc Uncle. I would not run it full out for long periods. 62 sounds perfect for that, Janus. My Himalayan will do 80, but if there is any wind you get blown around at that speed. 65 to 70 mph on the Himalayan all day long. I wonder how your MPG is average?
I'll be doing a fuel range test coming up. I was hoping to see 75+mph but I dint buy to run those speeds anyways. It'll spend most of it's life around 55-60mph where the ability to hold that speed is what I was after.
I have to say that tje top speed could be improved with a different sprocket, and just to put it into perspective, my wife's old Honda125 managed 70mph with no real issues, I appreciate that these bikes are built to emulate vintage machines, but the point is you get vintage looks but modern reliability and performance... the Honda RS 250 single of 1980's vintage managed 29 RW BHP. Seems odd that a new 250 cc bike is so feebly powered... looks nice though... Ride safe...👍😎
@@Aitch412 it's a 1970's engine design that was made for durability and simplified maintenance and not for power. In stock form it makes about as much power as a modern 125-150cc bike. That's where the stage 4 kit comes in as this engine in stock configuration just couldn't hang in the environment I ride in. I thought about changing the sprocket but I don't want to over gear it for the mountains.
@UncleVoodoo my wifes Honda 125 was a 1976 J sport... it made 12 bhp it complied with the UK learner laws of the early 80's... even a 250cc engine of 1970's vintage should make about 25bhp in stock trim without recourse to tuning... as I said its a great looking bike. Just a bit slow for modern day highways, best kept on backroads and byways for most fun
@@Aitch412 there is more to it than just displacement, lots of variables at play. A Honda CB125 for example is going to be faster than a Honda CG125 of the same year.
I put a link to everything in the description box- to me it's a mandatory upgrade,.. but it isn't cheap and it makes an already expensive bike even more expensive. the kit- motocultparts.com/products/d-janus-halcyon-250-stage-4-plus?variant=43305056665799 here's video on how to install it- th-cam.com/video/udxqLI2I6X8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4lJ0JHRbgzuWq05s
Yes, tells me something, but unsure what. An admittedly extremely pretty $15k 250cc needs another $1k to do the bare minimum, perhaps. Where I live, CH, NC, it's 10mph+ over the limit to not be run over in my truck by a Prius or an 18 wheeler....
I definitely wouldn't take it on the interstate but it's got plenty for the roads I intend to run it on. Your $ estimate is about $6-$7K too high if you bought a new one (built like mine) and did this to it, but shopping used I was able to do it all for about $6000.
What are the upgrade "stages" and what effect does each stage have on horsepower? I could google it (I have before) but it would make a good video and it would probably stick.
lol, you asked for a long answer ..... Stage 1 - Cam, gaskets, carb jet, needle and slide = +2hp Stage 2- Stage 1 plus ported head = +4hp Stage 3- Stage 1 plus big bore kit and sprocket = +9-10hp Stage 4- Stages 1, 2 and 3 plus pipe and oil cooler = +9-10hp Stage 4+ stages 1, 2, 3, and 4 plus a larger carb = +9-10hp the power difference between 3 through 4+ is basically the same numerically but the power band is shaped differently on the dyno. you owe me. lol!
It's extreme light weight makes it a bit squirrelly at higher speeds, the hardtail limits it's cornering speeds as there is no compressing of the suspension to soak up riding surface irregularities... ie- wheel hop is a possibility. It's no sporting machine that's for sure..... that's what the GT is for.
I specifically wanted this to be a thumper, I was going for the most simple and basic bike I could get when it came to the mechanicals and electronics.
@@UncleVoodoo Got that. I hear tell Honda is coming out with a 500 single along the lines of the Highness they sell in India. Should be a quality piece and I bet its counter balanced and powerful.
The Janus does way better than i thought it was going to. Thanks for sharing
I would've liked to have seen 75+, but it did what it needed to do on the inclines. Maybe it'll get a little stronger with more time as it's barely broken in right now.
Thanks for your honest reviews Uncle. Happy Thanksgiving.
Very nice work on the test drive.
I found it very interesting. I liked these Halcyon bikes from the first time seeing them.
Good to know that they are not just for looks alone.
I’d love to have one of these, but I’ve already got three bikes in the garage.
My wife has informed me that, if I get another motorcycle, she will initiate divorce proceedings.
The Janus is a bit of an odd character, it's a stark contrast to the GT. That's what I wanted though, if I'm going to have 2 bikes I wanted them to be nothing like each other. There's almost a relearning process when I switch bikes as they are so far apart from each other.
I had to convince my wife I "needed" a small, slow bike :)
Nice! My H250 #854 with stage 4 plus, will top out around 85+ I cruise it at 65 most of the time no issues. That moto cult mod made it THE bike, an H450, without the extra weight penalty, handles like a dream and is the most fun I have ver had on 2 wheels!
It's a nimble bike for sure! Idve like to have seen it top out above 75mph but it did the important (to me) part which was hold the speed limit through the inclines. This video is probably the only time I'll run it this fast.
Great video! Thanks for the info 👍
I had to put it out there but it's kind of useless info as my bike is kind of unique and doesn't really compare well with a stock bike or a typical upgraded bike either... mine is in between the two.
Thank you. That looks fun.
It's definitely a fun bike to ride! Thanks for watching.
Enjoyed the video and the road test. Bike sounds great. Still, confirms that for my roads a Janus 250, while gorgeous, is not the second bike for me.
I keep trying to stress that this isn't a bike for everyone.
That is great speed for a 250cc Uncle. I would not run it full out for long periods. 62 sounds perfect for that, Janus. My Himalayan will do 80, but if there is any wind you get blown around at that speed. 65 to 70 mph on the Himalayan all day long.
I wonder how your MPG is average?
I'll be doing a fuel range test coming up. I was hoping to see 75+mph but I dint buy to run those speeds anyways. It'll spend most of it's life around 55-60mph where the ability to hold that speed is what I was after.
I have to say that tje top speed could be improved with a different sprocket, and just to put it into perspective, my wife's old Honda125 managed 70mph with no real issues, I appreciate that these bikes are built to emulate vintage machines, but the point is you get vintage looks but modern reliability and performance... the Honda RS 250 single of 1980's vintage managed 29 RW BHP. Seems odd that a new 250 cc bike is so feebly powered... looks nice though...
Ride safe...👍😎
@@Aitch412 it's a 1970's engine design that was made for durability and simplified maintenance and not for power. In stock form it makes about as much power as a modern 125-150cc bike.
That's where the stage 4 kit comes in as this engine in stock configuration just couldn't hang in the environment I ride in.
I thought about changing the sprocket but I don't want to over gear it for the mountains.
@UncleVoodoo my wifes Honda 125 was a 1976 J sport... it made 12 bhp it complied with the UK learner laws of the early 80's... even a 250cc engine of 1970's vintage should make about 25bhp in stock trim without recourse to tuning... as I said its a great looking bike. Just a bit slow for modern day highways, best kept on backroads and byways for most fun
@@Aitch412 there is more to it than just displacement, lots of variables at play. A Honda CB125 for example is going to be faster than a Honda CG125 of the same year.
What’s the moto upgrade cost and what all is involved? Seems like something needed on the 250 so as not to get run over.
I put a link to everything in the description box- to me it's a mandatory upgrade,.. but it isn't cheap and it makes an already expensive bike even more expensive.
the kit-
motocultparts.com/products/d-janus-halcyon-250-stage-4-plus?variant=43305056665799
here's video on how to install it-
th-cam.com/video/udxqLI2I6X8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4lJ0JHRbgzuWq05s
I know this is off topic, but happy Thanksgiving all🦃
Its kinda cool watching and going hey I know where is... :)
Yes, tells me something, but unsure what. An admittedly extremely pretty $15k 250cc needs another $1k to do the bare minimum, perhaps. Where I live, CH, NC, it's 10mph+ over the limit to not be run over in my truck by a Prius or an 18 wheeler....
I definitely wouldn't take it on the interstate but it's got plenty for the roads I intend to run it on. Your $ estimate is about $6-$7K too high if you bought a new one (built like mine) and did this to it, but shopping used I was able to do it all for about $6000.
What are the upgrade "stages" and what effect does each stage have on horsepower? I could google it (I have before) but it would make a good video and it would probably stick.
lol, you asked for a long answer .....
Stage 1 -
Cam, gaskets, carb jet, needle and slide
= +2hp
Stage 2-
Stage 1 plus ported head
= +4hp
Stage 3-
Stage 1 plus big bore kit and sprocket
= +9-10hp
Stage 4-
Stages 1, 2 and 3 plus pipe and oil cooler
= +9-10hp
Stage 4+
stages 1, 2, 3, and 4 plus a larger carb
= +9-10hp
the power difference between 3 through 4+ is basically the same numerically but the power band is shaped differently on the dyno.
you owe me.
lol!
@@UncleVoodoo Wow. I obviously didn't know what I was asking (and didn't realize the stages were additive). Yep, looks like I owe you one.
It did really well. It’s probably benefitting from the light weight compare the RE 350.
The weight is definitely not hurting anything, although it has Himalayan 411 ish power the lack of torque is noticeable.
I used to know a guy from Buena Vista, Georgia (not VA). They pronounce it Byoona Vista down there.
fun fact- translated it means Beautiful View
beu-naa vista... :P
With a rigid rear end, I'm guessing there's a limit to how quick you would want to ride....
It's extreme light weight makes it a bit squirrelly at higher speeds, the hardtail limits it's cornering speeds as there is no compressing of the suspension to soak up riding surface irregularities... ie- wheel hop is a possibility. It's no sporting machine that's for sure..... that's what the GT is for.
That is good but I still want a twin version. :) They make twins in china i know. I think I have seen v twins also.
I specifically wanted this to be a thumper, I was going for the most simple and basic bike I could get when it came to the mechanicals and electronics.
@@UncleVoodoo Got that. I hear tell Honda is coming out with a 500 single along the lines of the Highness they sell in India. Should be a quality piece and I bet its counter balanced and powerful.
The Super Cub is a 125cc motor. Not comparable to a 250 Halcyon or a 350 Enfield.
The Super Cub and stock Halcyon 250 have the same claimed top speed, the Enfield 350 is claimed as 7mph faster. That's why they were compared.