Turner from Japan is also good. Here in the states it’s available at Jerry’s Art Arma. M. Graham doesn’t work well in humid environments due to the honey, but it’s a beautiful paint.
@@LH_ore You can often find affordable sets of 5 or more M. Graham tubes available online via amazon etc. I picked up some last year of 5 tubes for $20.
Thanks Teoh . I guess it depends where you live and the humidity . W&N always crack for me when dried in pans. M Graham, Sennelier and QOR are the only ones that never crack for me. First two having honey. I add a drop of vegetable glycerin and stir it in for all the others . In summer it's not always necessary but I just do as a matter of routine now so I don't forget when tge humidity drops.💜👍
I'm careful with certain heavier pigments from Daniel Smith. I live in the center of Spain, very dry area (dry and cold winter vs dry and hot summer) and some colours like ultramarines, cobalt violet, certain primateks etc will shrink A LOT and crack and fall from pans and palettes. I need to use glycerin and honey to make sure they stay in place. A couple of Sennelier colours dry too fluid and liquid and will move around and create a mess like caput mortuum and cerulean blue. The rest dry sticky and moist but not runny, given how dry the climate here is, the ones that aren't runny are suitable for travel. White Nights, Shinhan and Maimeri Blu work the best for me.
@@tatyanabridger4948ust add a tiny drop and mix it in…if I’m making paint I only use a small proportion of honey or glycerine as a plasticiser…so just a little drop in a pan and mix it in thoroughly. It might be easier I think to squeeze out enough for a few pans onto a plate add a couple of drops and mix it in with a palette knife, then fill the pans.
I have filled a whole 5 ml tube of Rembrandt watercolour into a well in a plastic pallet and they dried totally smooth and nice with no cracks. Other colours I have filled in pans from this brand was also fine to work with. Now, I rarely fill my pans and wells 100% but I have done that with this brand, as I got some colours I want to use up. And as said, no problems at all.
Thanks for this. I have read at Winsor Newton website years ago, that they do not recommend handpouring of their tube paints as it has different formula as compared to their ready pan paints.. that made me avoid handpouring my W&N to pans. Maybe they just want us to get their ready pans if we want pan paints 😂 So thanks for confirming that they dry well in pans, atleast in our zones where it's very humid.
They dry fine for me. What was explained to me is that they had rewetting issues and so reformulated the paint for their pans to rewet easier. I just go with whatever format I need.. if it's a first time buy I might grab the pan but I almost always refill from tube.
@@waymire01 thanks for sharing. It's really a relief to know. That is also what i do in most of my paints, buy pans then refill from tubes. Sometimes, the brand pans have labels and codes like in Sennelier that I really appreciate. Are you also from Asia or a humid region?
@@AllanJayQuesada No it's quite dry here, central USA. However the WN paints dry very quickly and hard, I don't think you would have an issue with them. Speaking of pan labels that is one of my next projects, going though all of them and using a fine liner to label the actual pan. I was using my swatch charts to keep track but I've decided I really need it on the pan.. I've been moving them around a lot... which is why I got in the habit of panning everything to begin with it's just so much easier for me to change my mind, pull a few for a project, or make a new palette. Thankfully I saved all my old tubes/pan wrappers so it won't be hard, just time consuming.
Here’s a tip I just learned: scratch up the bottom of the pan with a sharp knife and then the paint has a little something to hang onto and is less likely to drop out. Have not had long term experience with it yet to see if it really works, but seems like it should help.
When that happens to mi I dip the tip of a tooth pick in honey and smear it on the bottom of the pan so it gets a little bit sticky. So far it has always been enough to keep the paint in the pan.
Living where it gets both cold and dry I have poured Daniel Smith 1/2 pans and had them dry and then if you tip them over they fall out of the pan. Excellent video love your honesty about all these brands.
My favorite is Mission Gold. I don't know why you consider glossiness a negative, personally I consider dryness/chalkyness/cracking a huge negative. I love how Mission Gold has a bright sheen, pours excellently with a very nice consistency and wide nozzle, dries excellently with no cracking OR tackiness, settles to a nice even level without too much shrinkage, and it always stays adhered to the pan. They also re-wet brilliantly. Holbein actually aren't too bad with the few colors I have from them. They settle well after pouring, don't shrink too much, and despite looking a bit matte they re-wet well. Windsor and Newton dries chalky like it is filled with filler or brighter, and can crack. They can be difficult to re-wet. Daniel Smith seems to have too much thickener in it, which is accentuated by the narrow nozzle of their tubes. They're harder to pour and they will dry in lumpy messes without ever settling, they don't adhere well to the pans and will often eject from the pans when inverted, and they are prone to cracking. They seem to shrink quite a bit too, and some colors don't re-wet well. M. Graham pour well, but they take like a month to dry, they stay tacky and can slowly pour out if you are not careful. They also shrink a bit. They re-wet almost completely when you paint with them and can be a disaster if you try to store them without drying them again. Turner are not very good. The paints are not very consistent and some paints have so little substance that they can almost disappear after you dry a whole pan. Blick (Grumbacher) and Utrecht are both poor. They both have a lot of binder seperation and shrink quite a bit. Also, as far a pre-poured pans, Kremer is nice despite their sometimes ungainly initial appearance, and re-wet amazingly. Aquarius is always tacky, when removing the wrapper you can lose nearly half your paint if not careful. Alternatively the wrapper can leave behind wax that can seal in your paint and make it hard to activate. Again, they never will dry and will always be sticky. As far as the quality of the actual painting characteristics of Aquarius, I feel like they are very good, but not quite up there with the top brands, though they are definitely above Renesas which I would consider "good." Anyway, that's just my personal experience with these paints.
@@xenoncs2141 No problem! But if you paint from the tube a lot of this won't matter, for example M. Graham and Daniel Smith are definitely better than Holbein despite not being better for pouring pans.
I don't mind glossy surface or sticky surface. Most importantly, the paint should be too fluid if they have to be transported in watercolour boxes for outdoor use.
I’d like to add that QoR paints remain sticky even after they dry. While it does stay in place if you move it around, fluff and little hairs will stick to the surface. However, this means that it re-wets instantly and wonderfully!
@@recoveringsoul755 it's sticky in a pan (if squeezed from a tube).. on paper it's totally fine! Unless you're thinking of making dot cards, then it might be sticky. Some colors are not sticky though, I know my Viridian dries completely but definitely easier to rewet than Daniel Smith's Virdian.
Yee, i just filled up my pans yesterday, and i also filled up one a few months ago, and its still kinda sticky, but its not too bad as long as you keep the top of the pallet when not in use:)
Since I don’t make large watercolor paintings, I only work from pans. I much prefer to buy my paint already in pans. It’s a pain to pour them all out, and I don’t like the gloopy binder that often seems to separate out in the tubes. I live in a dry climate and many of the tube colors crack in the pans and or don’t dry smoothly. Also, in my experience, I don’t think I agree that tubes are more economical. The pan watercolors are so concentrated that a pan has always lasted me much longer than a tube has. The only time I buy tubes are if I really want certain watercolors that are not manufactured in pans or are offered for such a special price that I can’t pass them up. My favorite brand for manufactured pans is Schmincke followed closely by Rembrandt. I’m disappointed that I can’t find Rembrandt in full pans so far.
Thanks for sharing your oppinion on this. For me, it depends on the pigment. The more transparent the pigment the more it shrinks. The most granulating will sometimes split. DS is my least favorite in pans. Every one of my Daniel Smith filled pains are a pain in the backside for me. Every one shrinks too much with spitting and cracking. Some pigments dry to a rock hard waxy lump. On my dried Premeteks the water beaded up right on the paint! Now I add Glycerin to it 1st. I also always add a drop of glycerin to my WInser & Newton filled pans because most are not that easy to rewet. My Holbien is OK but the more you use it, it goes to dust. My own Favorite brand for easy pouring, no cracking and the least shrinking as well as the easiest to rewet when dried is Schmincke. I have some DaVinci, MGraham, Maimeriblu, Sennelier also. All are sticky when dry. Thanks again.
Watercolors that I have poured, either in pans or palettes, are Schmincke, Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Sennelier, Sennelier la petite Aquarelle, Winsor & Newton pro, Winsor & Newton Cotman, White Nights, Daniel Smith and Qor. I must say that I absolutely do not like the way that Sennelier behaves in the pan, same with White Nights. They are both paints that contain honey, and they remain very sticky and soft. This means hat I regularly have to pick cat hair off of my paints, and I do not like it at all. I now much prefer these paints in ready prepoured pans, even though I must say that the White Nights paints will be sticky, regardless of who poured them. QOR is also a sticky one, but sticky in a different way. I love QOR paints, and I will continue to buy them in tubes, but now I am smarter and will use them straight from the tube, which is something that I normally do not do with any other watercolors. As for all the other brands, I think they are all great for pouring. Depending on the pigment they may be a little troublesome, but overall, they are all good. The Sennelier la petite Aquarelle is particularly good to pour, I don't think I have ever seen a paint dry so quickly and so even, while shrinking so little. Schmincke is also great, same with Winsor and Newton, both their pro and their Cotman. Rembrandt dries really nice, but the Rembrandt paints that I have poured all shrank quite a bit, making me wonder how good of a deal those 20ml tubes really are, as based on the shrinkage, they must contain quite a bit of water. Also, their Viridian in the tube disappointed me soooo much, at first I actually thought that the tube must be labeled wrong and that it's really some weird craft paint. Ever since then I only got Rembrandt in pans. Overall, looking at shrinkage and how quickly different paints get used up, and how excessive the amount of binders can be in certain tubes, I have come to the conslusion that pouring my own pans is not always the best idea, as sometimes I simply prefer pre-poured pans, particularly with some brands and certain pigments. And I find that a well made pan from a factory will usually last longer than a self-poured one, so it's also not such a bad choice eonomically. A lot of people just look at the volume in ml and decide what is better economically, but since the tubes contain water, which, in a really well made pan, is no longer present, 1ml of panned paint will contain considerably more pigment then 1ml of tube paint, and therefor it really has to be evaluated brand by brand and pigment by pigment, whether a tube or a pan is the better option.
I fill my pans in layers. I dispense enough to fill one third of a pan, wait for it to dry completely and then repeat the process until the pan is full. Gives a good, even dry pan.
Thank you for review! The most liquid paints I'd filled in pans are Sennelier and White Nights. Once in very hot and wet climate of Sanya (China) watercolor by Sennelier has spread all over my palette.
I bought a lot of pans of paints from you a year and a bit ago and they're still smooth and not cracked! I still haven't used a few of the pans yet and they still are pretty full and look professionally done. I really recommend purchasing from Teoh if you want to experiment with some colours that you don't know if you will need a whole tube from. I've handpoured my own paints and they're very as nice as yours even after using a toothpick, lol
M. Graham never fully dries, in my experience, and doesn't shrink. I panned four of their colours (Anthraquinone Blue, Payne’s Gray, Ultramarine Blue, Quinacridone Rust) and while all of them settled enough not to leak out of half-pan box, they are still quasi-moist, so I need to make sure I let excess water dry out after each session or they might get moldy. First time as I tried to pan them I expected them to shrink so I poured to the brim, and as they never shrunk, so my box became stained with excessive paint. If you pan M. Graham pour below the edge and give it two full days to settle into quasi-moist. All Daniel Smith I panned (about 7 colours) dried cracked and shrunk a lot. I never had smooth tube-to-pan pan from them. Sometimes they dry in a tiny little brick and fall out of pan, unless I pour a second dose of paint over it. Van Gogh (and Rembrandt by extension) dries beautifully smooth but shrinks quite a bit (Rembrandt seemingly less so, but I only panned one paint from that series); I found that I need to use toothpick to slightly mix the paint as soon as it is out of tube or the excess ox gall / gum arabic might stay on top of the pan as they tend to separate in a tube. Holbein also dries very well and doesn't shrink as much as Van Gogh. Out of all tubes, I think they pan with the least amount of troubles. Turner tends to crack (in about 7 paints I tried to pan, about 5 cracked a bit) but doesn't shrink much, so I am ok with that. If you get White Nights in tubes, they pan beautifully, at least three (Green Light, Blue Lake and Turquoise Blue) that I've tried.
It's funny you found the best to be Winsor Newton because they specifically state not to pan their tubes. However I have done so with no issues. I've panned a lot of brands and had no real issue with any of them. A few crack, it's no big deal they still paint fine, they typically meld right back together once you add water to start painting with them. I've been told you can mix a bit of glycerin or gum arabic in to keep them from cracking if you wish. The one I find most annoying is Daniel Smith.. it shrinks terribly and I've had a couple pop out of the pans in the dry state and had to chase them down when I open a palette. For a paint which is that expensive it makes you see just how much paint is actually in their tubes vs evaporative liquids. If you wish to pan their paint you may be better off buying the prefilled pans to get the most for your money, IDK I'd have to run the math. The stickiness factor does depend on your local environment.. for example M.Graham is notorious for not drying but it dries just fine for me.. I live in the central US and it's quite dry here. I know others who live in the humid south and have actually had theirs run all over their palette or even mold.
Some colours from Daniel Smith like Mayan Red, Cobalt and Viridian shrunk in the pan when they dried and also they can't hold on they are dropping from the pan all the time even I put some water droplets inside the pan for sticking them. Also, I didn't know that Stephen Quiller has his own watercolours! I love his colour choices and painting technique. His watercolours look very shinny. Thank you, Teoh for sharing these useful information with us. As a person who bought colours from Teoh, I can testify that they were greatly poured and cared for. It was a pleasure for me to buy them.
Schmincke (Horadam) fan here :) So far I've filled my 1/2 pans with 16 different colors. They dry up really nicely and I only noticed some cracks with french ultramarine and cobalt green dark. I love how the paints re-wet and behave on paper, compared to my W&N Cotman 12-color palatte. The latter seems a bit more viscous once activated and applied. Thanks for sharing, Teoh!
@@AlphaGeekgirl True, that might seem to be the case. You'd probably have more gum arabic in the mix to reach the same intensity with student grade paint. Would love to try the Akademie (the students' grade from Schmincke) to compare, though.
I only have W&N and Daniel Smith. I think it really depends, I found that W&N shrank a lot, but when I did it for the Green Gold, it was perfectly smooooooooth. I have some Sennelier ones I bought from someone else and they dried perfectly in a pan.
i have several travel palettes, filled with mgraham and daniel smith .. i love them both , but the mgraham is my absolute favorite.. the colors are so rich , and rewet easily .. once they've had a few days to dry , they don't come out of the pans at all! i do not live in a humid environment ( i live in new york , ), so mold has not been an issue, either.. no other watercolors seem to compare, to my eyes , in terms of the richness of color .. love them 👍👍thanks for the video, teoh !!
My Mayan Orange cracks like that, too! Also, a small amount of Primatek Daniel Smith colors won’t re-wet at all once poured and dried into a pan. Hematite Genuine and Burnt Bronzite genuine are two. It’s like they turn into little square stones! I have 14 primatek colors and those are the only two that turned into unusable little pan rocks. I should have saved them in case a geology teacher was in need of rocks. Lastly from what I have, Moonglow when used from a dried pan will have more of a blackish tint whereas Moonglow straight from the tube has a more purpleish tint. It might be from how its two pigments blend together.
Hello; great video👍 I prefer Winsor Newton and Daneil Smith too My worst experience is Sennelier : great paint but never really dry in pan as my paint is still very sticky for almost one year 😳
It depends on the paint pigment too! I've found that for traditionally hard to rewet paints, Sennelier is much easier to work with. And I like Daniel Smith, but even some of their paint formulas... French Ultramarine, for example, dried into a rock, and I live in tropical Asia...
Great video Teoh! I love Daniel Smith watercolors, but the paint shrinks so much!! Much more than any other brand I have tried! I agree with you about Winsor and Newton; it is a wonderful paint to squeeze into pans for plein air painting.
I use Turner watercolors and find they dry very well over night, do not crack and shrink very little. I must admit I do not have a palette that uses pans or half pans. Mine has wells around the edges, but I do not see that would matter all that much.
Sennelier takes forever to dry and honestly they never get fully dry🤣😭 Mission Gold as well, most pans stay moist. Very moist, to be honest. I had some problems with drying Jackson’s paints as well. Daniel Smith, Schmincke and W&N either dry prettily or crack horribly, there’s no inbetween🤣🤣
To add to your experience, I found that Sennelier half-pans are better pans than their tubes if you want tubes-to-pans. I found out if I want specifically Sennelier pans, I need to buy their pans, not tubes.
@@hiddenshadow2105 true. I bought two of their pans, but I gotta say I don’t really like how they rewet. The colors aren’t as vibrant as those I’ve poured into pans🥲 I don’t know if it’s the colors I’ve bought, but they look rather matte, which isn’t my preference
@@marisawu3646 What makes the analysis difficult that sometimes in a big paint set some paints behave one way and some in some other ways. I had a good experience with their pan-paints but only having four, it might be I just got lucky.
@@MandaPanda254 yeah, I was aware when I bought them. I live in Italy and it can get quite humid, that’s probably why some pans literally overflow with binder that has separated from the pigment🥲
For a grad gift I bought myself a 24 set Mijello pure pigment set and poured into pans , I also have two Winsor and Newton which dry very evenly but don’t seem to be as strong in color to the Mijello . I also have Holbein and they dry very well in pans ,Daniel smith is my favorite to put in pans as they dry matte and I don’t have to worry about accidentally getting paint on my fingers. I keep them all in a Meeden 48 pan tin ,I was able to fit about 65 colors in it when taking the metal tray out.
I use a lot of Jacksons and Sennelier as they re wet beautifully. I do find that in the UK they benefit from overnight drying on the radiator, for which I make cardboard trays to hold my pans and place a folded sheet of paper like a tent over the top to aid drying. I find these pans dry nice and firm and re wet great. I must point out that honey based paints no matter how well you dry them will become very sticky again in the humidity of summer. For me in the UK, it's not so much as to run in my palette, but I am constantly sticking my thumb in the lemon yellow as I hold my palette, which is a pain.
Be sure to test how dry they are before you bring them out for outdoor painting. Some paint may still move in their dry form. You can check by tilting the pan slightly under normal conditions (inside a watercolour box) and check the next day.
Surprising observation on DS cerulean Teoh. I use DS’s cerulean blue chromium and have never had an issue in my travel palette so I guess there really must be a difference in the pb35 and pb36
Thank you for always giving great informations. I always go to your youtube videos and blogs product review before buying any products. thanks for everything! hope you have a nice weekend!
Thank's for your tips! I recently saw my pans, either poured from tubes or purchased as is, becoming sticky due to the humid weather. I found some small silica gel pouches (I always kept them) and manage a way to fit them into my watercolor boxes. Even if the box cannot be completely closed, it worked well to reduce stickyckiness.
That's very helpful! A couple other brands I've tried are Rembrandt, which dries really well in pans, and M. Graham (made with honey) stays sticky for a long time, and when we had really humid weather, it didn't fully dry at all.
Wow this is so interesting! I tested similar to this but with other pigments from different brands and I've come to come to completely different result! I actually found w&n and ds they dried extremely hard and veryyyy hard to rewet. I had the best results with schminke and holbein . They dried the most even and were the best rewetability afterwards. I also tried white nights, sennelier and they didn't dry enough but perfect for my on desk palette. My qor and mission gold paint was a happy medium and maimeri blu was a mediocre. I think it has a lot to do with humidity in the environment .
From all the brands I've tried, M. Graham is the only one that will stay a bit sticky, so I leave those paints at home. And just like you I love to fill pans with W&N, Schmincke and Daniel Smith
This is the exact video I'm looking for as I'm planning to upgrade to artist-grade watercolor paints. I'm looking for tube paints to fill my Portable Painter palette. I'm considering getting Daniel Smith, Holbein or Mission Gold. I live in the tropics. I hope any one of these are good given our climate. This video is very helpful to me. Thanks a lot, Teoh!
I live in a desert place and my mission golds never dry, except for ultramarine deep, the rest only dry when I let them out for a couple of hours, permanent yellow light NEVER dried despite weeks, maybe months. They have honey in them so for a tropical I wouldnt recommend honey based for traveling, maybe for home or studio but travelling they have a high probability of messing up everything around them and u lose your paint n maybe clothes since mijello golds are pretty straining
As far as I know the Schmincke Horadam paints in tubes are the same recipe as in pans. Should be an easy refill :-D. Had good results with Shinhan PWC. I fill my pans just half and let it dry and fill it up the second time.
I have 4 or 5 Van Gogh paint tubes and they dry in the pans beautifully, they shrinked as much as my daniel smiths did and they stay smooth, at least the ones I have
I live in a hot, humid, tropical country and I find Holbein to be great to be used in pans. Some of them kinda have a plastic look to them when dried lol but they work great anyway so it doesn't bother me. Most of my DS paints dry alright, but colors like amethyst, ultramarine blue, mayan blue become quite hard so you need to prep them with some water before they can be used with no problems. Sennelier CAN dry in a pan-- but only if you haven't used it in like a year lol
I rarely have cracking from any brand, and Daniel Smith works best for me--but I live in Seattle so DS paint is made in and tested for our climate. Some Winsor & Newton paints can get pretty hard, but I just add a small drop of glycerin to make them behave. Some MGraham or Sennelier colors are too sticky for me, but others dry well. I've heard that the Stephen Quiller is the same as or made by Blockx. I don't fill up pans all the way, I use full pans and fill at an angle so that it's easier on my brushes and I can make nice puddles for washes at one side, so filling up a pan perfectly is not really an issue.
I know it’s a year later but wanted to say I’m in Seattle too but I have severe shrinking from my Daniel Smith and Winsor & Newton pans. Interesting that you don’t.
I would consider W&N if I would switch to artist grade paint, (W&N because it's available near my area), but I read that it would be hard to reactivate if poured into pans after watching Denise's review of the paints. I read on the Jane Blundell blog that I could add glycerin to the paint.
Nice to know! I was wondering if you would in the future test out fabriano 1264 watercolor paper? It comes in pads and is very reasonable priced! Very curious how this compares to their Artistico!!
Mine too. Very likely there's honey in them. Humidity at my place is quite high which makes it more difficult for the paint to dry. Not 100% dry is not a problem. More importantly they should not be watery especially if they are to be used outdoors.
I filled a palette with Daniel Smith as I watched. I wish the tubes didn't explode when you open them - I had to carefully clean the tubes and caps to avoid them drying shut.
seems like good quality paints for these pans, mission Gold seems like a really good paint, I like how it dries, on your pictures you show here, I like how some of the Schmincke brand is good quality! and I would prefer the granulation type. thanks for sharing with us,
I agree with what someone else said, a lot of these paints (water-based vs humidity, duh!!) react differently in different humidities. I live in Texas, very hot and dry, makes laying down water washes a challenge, but I've gotten used to it. I suspect that another culprit in the cracking and flaking of some of these paints may also have to do with whether the paints are stored in a metal palette box, which can get very hot in my state. I use plastic, double-walled Mijello boxes from South Korea. They are rubber sealed and air tight and keep the paints quite safe. Also, lint, dust, and pet hair can't mess them up when not in use. 😜 However, in a humid area, the paints, no matter what kind they are, might mold (I saw one artist advise that a tiny drop of vinegar would stop that, but I've never tried it myself, I don't have that problem in my area, and I don't know if it would affect the paint quality, but it's worth a test if mold is a problem in high humidity). Once again, great video. Btw, with paints that are hard to reactivate, I prewet them with a warm water mist, it helps. And with some of my paints, I cut a fitted sleeve of parchment to gently lay over the paints before I snap the lids shut. It helps prevent cross-mixing. Thanks, Teoh, A+.
That's a good point about metal vs plastic affecting the paints in hot and/or humid conditions. I have my M Graham paints in a metal pan, that's probably why they dry enough to be viable, although I still would hesitate to travel with them. Good tips!
I use Daniel Smith, Schmnicke, PWC, M Graham and Rembrandt. The color on M Graham is awesome but because it has honey it stays sticky and will move around in the pan and even out of it if you do not keep your pallet flat.
I use holbein, jackson's art and mission gold in full pans, they all dry well in pans, but they also do crack... I think it's probably have something to do with the pigment, since it appears that those who crack are granulating pigment like ultramarine (PB29), yellow orcher (PY42), venetian red (PR101) and cobalt turquoise (PB28) and non granulating pigment like pyrrole orange red shade (PO73), quin red (PR209), quin magenta (PR122) and phthalo turquoise (PB16), usually doesnt crack.
Schmincke says that their formula for plans and tubes is the same -and their plans are poured and or extruded (like W&N). I use Schmincke Horadam from tubes and let them dry in pans, and have always worked beauti6 without too much shrinking. Another worthy mention is White Nights, which recently started selling tubes. They also dry well and are not sticky. Jackson's remain quite sticky...quite like Sennelier in fact. Thanks for this comparison and review!
Really, your White Nights dry to not be sticky? Which colors have you tried? Do you have a trick for drying them? I am asking because I really like those paints, but I just hate how everything sticks to them, and I regularly have to clean them with a toothpick, pulling cat hair and other fluff off of them, both the poured and the ready made ones. I had a pan of their cerulean blue (self-poured) sitting on my desk and I put my feet up, and hours later, after I had already been outside and everything, my husband asked me what the weird thing is that is sticking to the back of my leg. 😅 When I pulled the pan off, it was half empty and the other half of the paint was stuck to my pants. And that pan wasn't freshly poured, it was poured something like two months before then. That is how sticky White Nights are for me.
@@justacatwhocantype Thanks for your reply. Funny story with cerulean blue 😂 I have over 50 half pans...and around 10 tubes. I have posted ultramarine blue, hansa yellow, burnt sienna and cobalt blue, so far. These have dried well. Sometimes shiny but not sticky. I guess this might have to do with humidity or temperature? I also pour in stages...and not all at once. First up to half of the pan, let it dry for a few days and only then pour the rest. The I wait for another few days...and pour again, as water evaporates and it will naturally shrink a bit each time. Pouring paint tests my patience...but it is the only way to carry paints for urban sketching. In any case, my palette is stored vertically and the paint remains in its place. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
@@berolinastrassmann You know, I think you are probably doing it right by pouring them little by little. I just dumped mine into the pan because this works fairly well for me with other brands, but unlike White Nights, most of the other brands that I use do not contain honey. Thank you for the idea, I feel silly that I did not come up with that one by myself. 😅
The only paints I don’t use in pan are viridian and cobalt, or more expensive pigments like lapiz lazuli. I feel the best brand for pans is QOR because of the binder(aquazol), and regular watercolor except for w&n i feel m.graham does the best job.
I live in South Florida, so I have a issue with sticky paints due to the humidity too. I rarely paint outside so i don't mind it at all but I do try to avoid paints that dry with cracks as I worry about my brushes rubbing inside the pans.
very interesting video! I've been enjoying using holbein paints in pans, but I'm planning to try van gogh tubes in the future since it's a lot easier on the wallet in the US. 😂
I just know Grumbacher Academy white doesn’t rewet well. I bought my set used, the white is a hunk of rock. At least the other colors are still usable!
More than once, I have made a sticky mess of my palette by tossing it in a bag before a recently-poured pan of M. Graham paint had dried. It’s another honey-based brand, so drying takes a while. There great paints, though-the only viridian that resets well.
Good review! An important consideration for travel palette building. Another one for me is how easy the paint comes back out of the pan after drying, in the event you want to transfer the brick to a different/larger pan or different palette. Daniel Smith has been the best for me in this regard as it stays more flexible than the other brands I use (Windsor Newton, White Knights, Van Gogh).
Nice video! So you find that Van Gogh watercolors are ok for halfpans and for going outdoors too? Because I want to fill a palette only with Van Gogh watercolors.
Climate definitely matters because I have found that Daniel Smith dries horribly where I live (desert). I avoid buying them unless I have no other choice because most colors I have tried from them shrink so much and dry very hard, which is unfortunate because I love granulation and they have so many pretty granulating colors. M Graham and DaVinci dry the best with hardly any shrinking and rewet so nicely, M Graham more easily because of the honey. Sennelier and Holbein rewet nicely but shrink and crack a bit. Schmincke tends to shrink but not as bad as Daniel Smith and both of them do better if sprayed with water before painting.
I used to place my watercolors in pans, but everytime the paint gets to the bottom, its quite difficult to get. I know i can always refill it with new paint, but i prefer to fully finish every bit of paint before refilling. I soon opted for palettes with slanted wells instead, especially because i dont "swap out" my colors anyways
I wanted to ask you if paints with honey in them are very dirty/sticky? I saw in one of your videos how Sennelier paints caused paint to come off the handle from a brush that had some paint dripped on it. I wanted to buy M Graham paints but found out that they also contain honey. Now I think I will buy Schmincke because I like non-granulating paints.
now i have daniel smith, whitenights, mijello, holbein, sennelier, shinhan and arteza. the one that dry and crack here is arteza. while sennelier is harder to re-wet.
I've had problems with Roman Szmal being too sticky and never fully drying, even after several months. I'm not sure if they've changed their formula as I recently got a pan that didn't have this problem.
Thanks for this comprehensive guide Teoh! ☺ I just have a question for you, any tips on how to dry your paints? I know that the palette has to be halfcovered if it is to be in the sun, but can i dry it in an aircon room? Because i've tried drying some Daniel Smith paints, and because I was unsure about the method to go about drying them and kept changing, it may have contributed to the rate of the drying 😅
Air-con is dry air but it's not going to dry the pans significantly faster. It's just gonna dry the surface. You still have to leave the pans out for a few days to dry completely. For new pans, I actually place them on top of my computer near the exhaust where it's hot. It dries fast. I pour a bit, let the paint crack, fill the gaps, and repeat until I fill the pan to the top.
@@teohyc Ohh!! So aircon doesn't really help since it's on the surface! 🤣 That's a great advice! To dry near the computer's exhaust!! Thanks for the tips Teoh! I just bought a couple of new paints from Straits Art, will try the more efficient method of drying 😇 Thank you!
I am very surprised by W&N. Some will be good (reds, yellows, blues, etc) but W&N themselves say NOT to fill pans, but do not clarify why. I would of thought Schmincke would be above W&N as it's the same formula of paint for their pans and tubes where as W&N has different formulas. That said - I found W&N Cotman tubed paint in pans activate better than their pans.
I poured WnN in a few pans and didn't notice any difference. I almost think that this warning is because they want to sell pans for twice of what you get if you pan them manually from the tube.
Their pans are very expensive. Certain colours don't dry well with WN. E.g. French Ultramarine, Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber. They dry with very dry surfaces that don't stick to the inner walls of pans.
Although they are very expensive, I had great luck with Qor’s - they dry in the pans really well, but they are easy to rewet. Sennelier takes forever to dry, especially in a humid climate. The rumor is that Jackson’s paints are actually made by Sennelier. If so, they are a good bargain.
I've been thinking of sending some paint to a friend in Brazil, but I'm in the UK, I've been worried that she may have issues with the paint consistency and difference in humidity.
@@teohyc Thanks! I only want to buy 4-5 tubes, and I was thinking of cotman (or extra fine) tubes since they dont sell individual sennelier tubes in my art store. Do you know if there is any major differences between the cotman, the extra fine and sennelier?
@@amandine2239 Cotman is student brand. It's good too for beginners while not being too expensive. Not sure what Extra Fine you're referring to. For Winsor and Newton, they have Cotman and their other is the Artist Professional. Sennelier is considered artist grade. Check out this article if you're getting a beginner set www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolor-sets-beginners
@@teohyc I was refering to W&N artist brand :) (in France we say « fine » for student and « extra fine » for professional brand) i’ve been painting with watercolors for several years so I was thiking of using some artist tubes for a change.
I do not recommend pouring maimeri blu in climates that are not very hot or dry. It stays damp for a very long time, so it wont be good for outdoor painting
Anyone know how White Nights comperes to other paints in this respect? It's a wc paint that retails in my neck of the woods for less than its weight in gold, unlike some other brands...
I buy White Nights in tubes and fill pans, never had any problem. I live in Europe, where the climate is not so humid or dry. I also use Schmincke, from tubes into pans, and they dry beautifully
White Nights has honey so will not dry completely. They still dry eventually, but with glossy surface, but at least they are not fluid and don't flow if you have to put them inside watercolour box to bring outdoors.
I live in Germany and I have made the experience that White Nights will remain very sticky. Someone else here said that they do not have this problem, so the only thing I can imagine is that maybe this really depends on which pigments you buy from them. The ones that I have poured, cadmium yellow and cerulean blue, are barely any different from how they were when I poured them out, and that was months ago, so I do not expect any further changes. But then again I have also made the experience that most of their pans (and I have tried a lot of those, I think I currently have 45 or so) are also very sticky. There are a few that are ok, which is why I think that this could have something to do with the pigment used, and the factory pans are not nearly as bad as the self-poured pans, but I still have to clean most of them regularily because all kinds of stuff sticks to them. Totally lovely paints and at an amazing price, but be prepared that they, like most paints with honey in them, will, at least for the most part, remain quite soft and sticky.
@@teohyc Indeed, even if they are sometimes a bit shiny, they never melt or leak (at least in moderate European weather, where humidity is never too high). I started buying pans, but am switching to tubes. They fill and dry well in my experience. But I guess if people keep them in humid climates, the experience might differ.
QOR watercolors shrink 50% so you are really getting less product. They do rewet nicely. Sennelier I haven't put into pans yet. But the pans they sell are nice and rewet beautiful. Holbein also have in tubes and haven't put into pans. Will update you on those.
If you are travelling lots of the senelier tube paints will be too messy, but not all. So you have to pick and choose. Quin gold won’t dry, and phthalocyanine blue is just asking for trouble, so I’d get those as ready made pans myself. Senelier yellow deep for example will set, so you can choose for that one.
When W&N says not to put their paints into tubes, I don't think they mean that this will cause an actual problem, but simply that the formulation of their tube watercolors is not exactly the same as that of their pan watercolors, which means that pouring your own pan will not be the same thing as buying one. That's all. As for things like rewetting, there is absolutely no problem with the poured W&N paints. I know lots of people who do this, and I do as well and really have no reason to complain. W&N is actually one of my favorite brands for pouring, it dries and rewets very nicely.
Certain colours will dry and won't stick to the inner walls of the plastic pans, and will fall out easily. Eg. Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber, French Ultramarine. Those are ones will behave as so.
@@teohyc 🤣🤣🤣 Ah I see, I thought it might be damaging in some way or a sign of bad paint lol! Well, anyway, thank you for replying. I’m a recent subscriber and love your videos. I’ve learnt a lot in a short space of time and I also love your work and art style. Please keep it up ❤️❤️
I have converted most of my colors to DaVinci Paints of California. I think Dan Smith just overrated, they do have a LOT of choices, yeah overkill in my opinion. I have Schmincke pastels but only 2 colors of watercolor pans. I used to have Mission Gold in my studio palette, I am just so taken with DaVinci they have simply dominated my palettes overall since I have discovered them! I have given away many of the DS paints, I cannot sell them as I believe that they are not good.
Excellent video! In my experience, the ones that dry the best in a humid climate are W&N and Schmincke. And they rewet fine. Mijello is not too bad (but I've completely fallen out of love with them). The worst is M. Graham... they're beautiful paints but just refuse to dry.
Turner from Japan is also good. Here in the states it’s available at Jerry’s Art Arma. M. Graham doesn’t work well in humid environments due to the honey, but it’s a beautiful paint.
I liked it because at Jackson's it was introduced at a low price. But it has risen since then so I have moved to a more affordable label.
@@LH_ore You can often find affordable sets of 5 or more M. Graham tubes available online via amazon etc. I picked up some last year of 5 tubes for $20.
Thanks Teoh . I guess it depends where you live and the humidity . W&N always crack for me when dried in pans. M Graham, Sennelier and QOR are the only ones that never crack for me. First two having honey. I add a drop of vegetable glycerin and stir it in for all the others . In summer it's not always necessary but I just do as a matter of routine now so I don't forget when tge humidity drops.💜👍
I'm careful with certain heavier pigments from Daniel Smith. I live in the center of Spain, very dry area (dry and cold winter vs dry and hot summer) and some colours like ultramarines, cobalt violet, certain primateks etc will shrink A LOT and crack and fall from pans and palettes. I need to use glycerin and honey to make sure they stay in place.
A couple of Sennelier colours dry too fluid and liquid and will move around and create a mess like caput mortuum and cerulean blue. The rest dry sticky and moist but not runny, given how dry the climate here is, the ones that aren't runny are suitable for travel.
White Nights, Shinhan and Maimeri Blu work the best for me.
How do you use glycerine and honey for your paints?
@@tatyanabridger4948ust add a tiny drop and mix it in…if I’m making paint I only use a small proportion of honey or glycerine as a plasticiser…so just a little drop in a pan and mix it in thoroughly. It might be easier I think to squeeze out enough for a few pans onto a plate add a couple of drops and mix it in with a palette knife, then fill the pans.
I have filled a whole 5 ml tube of Rembrandt watercolour into a well in a plastic pallet and they dried totally smooth and nice with no cracks. Other colours I have filled in pans from this brand was also fine to work with. Now, I rarely fill my pans and wells 100% but I have done that with this brand, as I got some colours I want to use up. And as said, no problems at all.
Thanks for this. I have read at Winsor Newton website years ago, that they do not recommend handpouring of their tube paints as it has different formula as compared to their ready pan paints.. that made me avoid handpouring my W&N to pans. Maybe they just want us to get their ready pans if we want pan paints 😂 So thanks for confirming that they dry well in pans, atleast in our zones where it's very humid.
They dry fine for me. What was explained to me is that they had rewetting issues and so reformulated the paint for their pans to rewet easier. I just go with whatever format I need.. if it's a first time buy I might grab the pan but I almost always refill from tube.
@@waymire01 thanks for sharing. It's really a relief to know. That is also what i do in most of my paints, buy pans then refill from tubes. Sometimes, the brand pans have labels and codes like in Sennelier that I really appreciate. Are you also from Asia or a humid region?
@@AllanJayQuesada No it's quite dry here, central USA. However the WN paints dry very quickly and hard, I don't think you would have an issue with them. Speaking of pan labels that is one of my next projects, going though all of them and using a fine liner to label the actual pan. I was using my swatch charts to keep track but I've decided I really need it on the pan.. I've been moving them around a lot... which is why I got in the habit of panning everything to begin with it's just so much easier for me to change my mind, pull a few for a project, or make a new palette. Thankfully I saved all my old tubes/pan wrappers so it won't be hard, just time consuming.
They probably just want to sell you more stuff. Clearly they go into the pan jut fine!!!
Here’s a tip I just learned: scratch up the bottom of the pan with a sharp knife and then the paint has a little something to hang onto and is less likely to drop out. Have not had long term experience with it yet to see if it really works, but seems like it should help.
Good idea
Or you could just use sandpaper to roughen the inside of the pan.
When that happens to mi I dip the tip of a tooth pick in honey and smear it on the bottom of the pan so it gets a little bit sticky. So far it has always been enough to keep the paint in the pan.
@@stormmoster Awesome idea!! I will use this the next time I fill pans. Thanks! ♥️😻♥️
Living where it gets both cold and dry I have poured Daniel Smith 1/2 pans and had them dry and then if you tip them over they fall out of the pan. Excellent video love your honesty about all these brands.
My favorite is Mission Gold. I don't know why you consider glossiness a negative, personally I consider dryness/chalkyness/cracking a huge negative. I love how Mission Gold has a bright sheen, pours excellently with a very nice consistency and wide nozzle, dries excellently with no cracking OR tackiness, settles to a nice even level without too much shrinkage, and it always stays adhered to the pan. They also re-wet brilliantly.
Holbein actually aren't too bad with the few colors I have from them. They settle well after pouring, don't shrink too much, and despite looking a bit matte they re-wet well.
Windsor and Newton dries chalky like it is filled with filler or brighter, and can crack. They can be difficult to re-wet.
Daniel Smith seems to have too much thickener in it, which is accentuated by the narrow nozzle of their tubes. They're harder to pour and they will dry in lumpy messes without ever settling, they don't adhere well to the pans and will often eject from the pans when inverted, and they are prone to cracking. They seem to shrink quite a bit too, and some colors don't re-wet well.
M. Graham pour well, but they take like a month to dry, they stay tacky and can slowly pour out if you are not careful. They also shrink a bit. They re-wet almost completely when you paint with them and can be a disaster if you try to store them without drying them again.
Turner are not very good. The paints are not very consistent and some paints have so little substance that they can almost disappear after you dry a whole pan.
Blick (Grumbacher) and Utrecht are both poor. They both have a lot of binder seperation and shrink quite a bit.
Also, as far a pre-poured pans, Kremer is nice despite their sometimes ungainly initial appearance, and re-wet amazingly.
Aquarius is always tacky, when removing the wrapper you can lose nearly half your paint if not careful. Alternatively the wrapper can leave behind wax that can seal in your paint and make it hard to activate. Again, they never will dry and will always be sticky. As far as the quality of the actual painting characteristics of Aquarius, I feel like they are very good, but not quite up there with the top brands, though they are definitely above Renesas which I would consider "good."
Anyway, that's just my personal experience with these paints.
Thank you very much! I will save your wisdom to be of use whenever I find difficulties on what brands to buy
@@xenoncs2141 No problem! But if you paint from the tube a lot of this won't matter, for example M. Graham and Daniel Smith are definitely better than Holbein despite not being better for pouring pans.
I mainly use tubed pans as straight from tubes can cause a mess and I'm a very tidy person, thank you ♥️
I don't mind glossy surface or sticky surface. Most importantly, the paint should be too fluid if they have to be transported in watercolour boxes for outdoor use.
I’d like to add that QoR paints remain sticky even after they dry. While it does stay in place if you move it around, fluff and little hairs will stick to the surface. However, this means that it re-wets instantly and wonderfully!
bummer. Sounds like it would be a problem in a sketchbook if it sticks. I kind of wanted to get some because of how thy move on the paper
@@recoveringsoul755 it's sticky in a pan (if squeezed from a tube).. on paper it's totally fine! Unless you're thinking of making dot cards, then it might be sticky. Some colors are not sticky though, I know my Viridian dries completely but definitely easier to rewet than Daniel Smith's Virdian.
@@ArchArtemis Oh that's a relief to know! thanks
I live in a very dry climate and if I squeeze some out onto a plate in 5 minutes it's so dry I have to rewet to use.
Yee, i just filled up my pans yesterday, and i also filled up one a few months ago, and its still kinda sticky, but its not too bad as long as you keep the top of the pallet when not in use:)
Since I don’t make large watercolor paintings, I only work from pans. I much prefer to buy my paint already in pans. It’s a pain to pour them all out, and I don’t like the gloopy binder that often seems to separate out in the tubes. I live in a dry climate and many of the tube colors crack in the pans and or don’t dry smoothly. Also, in my experience, I don’t think I agree that tubes are more economical. The pan watercolors are so concentrated that a pan has always lasted me much longer than a tube has. The only time I buy tubes are if I really want certain watercolors that are not manufactured in pans or are offered for such a special price that I can’t pass them up. My favorite brand for manufactured pans is Schmincke followed closely by Rembrandt. I’m disappointed that I can’t find Rembrandt in full pans so far.
I agree: depending on the brand and the pigment, factory pans can be more economical, absolutely right.
Thanks for sharing your oppinion on this. For me, it depends on the pigment. The more transparent the pigment the more it shrinks. The most granulating will sometimes split. DS is my least favorite in pans. Every one of my Daniel Smith filled pains are a pain in the backside for me. Every one shrinks too much with spitting and cracking. Some pigments dry to a rock hard waxy lump. On my dried Premeteks the water beaded up right on the paint! Now I add Glycerin to it 1st. I also always add a drop of glycerin to my WInser & Newton filled pans because most are not that easy to rewet. My Holbien is OK but the more you use it, it goes to dust. My own Favorite brand for easy pouring, no cracking and the least shrinking as well as the easiest to rewet when dried is Schmincke. I have some DaVinci, MGraham, Maimeriblu, Sennelier also. All are sticky when dry. Thanks again.
Watercolors that I have poured, either in pans or palettes, are Schmincke, Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Sennelier, Sennelier la petite Aquarelle, Winsor & Newton pro, Winsor & Newton Cotman, White Nights, Daniel Smith and Qor. I must say that I absolutely do not like the way that Sennelier behaves in the pan, same with White Nights. They are both paints that contain honey, and they remain very sticky and soft. This means hat I regularly have to pick cat hair off of my paints, and I do not like it at all. I now much prefer these paints in ready prepoured pans, even though I must say that the White Nights paints will be sticky, regardless of who poured them. QOR is also a sticky one, but sticky in a different way. I love QOR paints, and I will continue to buy them in tubes, but now I am smarter and will use them straight from the tube, which is something that I normally do not do with any other watercolors. As for all the other brands, I think they are all great for pouring. Depending on the pigment they may be a little troublesome, but overall, they are all good. The Sennelier la petite Aquarelle is particularly good to pour, I don't think I have ever seen a paint dry so quickly and so even, while shrinking so little. Schmincke is also great, same with Winsor and Newton, both their pro and their Cotman. Rembrandt dries really nice, but the Rembrandt paints that I have poured all shrank quite a bit, making me wonder how good of a deal those 20ml tubes really are, as based on the shrinkage, they must contain quite a bit of water. Also, their Viridian in the tube disappointed me soooo much, at first I actually thought that the tube must be labeled wrong and that it's really some weird craft paint. Ever since then I only got Rembrandt in pans.
Overall, looking at shrinkage and how quickly different paints get used up, and how excessive the amount of binders can be in certain tubes, I have come to the conslusion that pouring my own pans is not always the best idea, as sometimes I simply prefer pre-poured pans, particularly with some brands and certain pigments. And I find that a well made pan from a factory will usually last longer than a self-poured one, so it's also not such a bad choice eonomically. A lot of people just look at the volume in ml and decide what is better economically, but since the tubes contain water, which, in a really well made pan, is no longer present, 1ml of panned paint will contain considerably more pigment then 1ml of tube paint, and therefor it really has to be evaluated brand by brand and pigment by pigment, whether a tube or a pan is the better option.
Funny aout the Sennelier la petite Aquarelle - it's got honey, so I wouldn't have expected that.
@@patticake5311 The La petite Aquarelle doesn't contain honey like Sennlier's artist watercolors, it uses glycerin as a humectant.
Would love to see you use some White Nights Paints too.
I tried three of them (Blue Lake, Green Light and Turquoise Blue) and they fit pans beautifully.
I fill my pans in layers. I dispense enough to fill one third of a pan, wait for it to dry completely and then repeat the process until the pan is full. Gives a good, even dry pan.
Thank you for review! The most liquid paints I'd filled in pans are Sennelier and White Nights. Once in very hot and wet climate of Sanya (China) watercolor by Sennelier has spread all over my palette.
I bought a lot of pans of paints from you a year and a bit ago and they're still smooth and not cracked! I still haven't used a few of the pans yet and they still are pretty full and look professionally done. I really recommend purchasing from Teoh if you want to experiment with some colours that you don't know if you will need a whole tube from.
I've handpoured my own paints and they're very as nice as yours even after using a toothpick, lol
M. Graham never fully dries, in my experience, and doesn't shrink. I panned four of their colours (Anthraquinone Blue, Payne’s Gray, Ultramarine Blue, Quinacridone Rust) and while all of them settled enough not to leak out of half-pan box, they are still quasi-moist, so I need to make sure I let excess water dry out after each session or they might get moldy. First time as I tried to pan them I expected them to shrink so I poured to the brim, and as they never shrunk, so my box became stained with excessive paint. If you pan M. Graham pour below the edge and give it two full days to settle into quasi-moist.
All Daniel Smith I panned (about 7 colours) dried cracked and shrunk a lot. I never had smooth tube-to-pan pan from them. Sometimes they dry in a tiny little brick and fall out of pan, unless I pour a second dose of paint over it.
Van Gogh (and Rembrandt by extension) dries beautifully smooth but shrinks quite a bit (Rembrandt seemingly less so, but I only panned one paint from that series); I found that I need to use toothpick to slightly mix the paint as soon as it is out of tube or the excess ox gall / gum arabic might stay on top of the pan as they tend to separate in a tube.
Holbein also dries very well and doesn't shrink as much as Van Gogh. Out of all tubes, I think they pan with the least amount of troubles.
Turner tends to crack (in about 7 paints I tried to pan, about 5 cracked a bit) but doesn't shrink much, so I am ok with that.
If you get White Nights in tubes, they pan beautifully, at least three (Green Light, Blue Lake and Turquoise Blue) that I've tried.
It's funny you found the best to be Winsor Newton because they specifically state not to pan their tubes. However I have done so with no issues. I've panned a lot of brands and had no real issue with any of them. A few crack, it's no big deal they still paint fine, they typically meld right back together once you add water to start painting with them. I've been told you can mix a bit of glycerin or gum arabic in to keep them from cracking if you wish. The one I find most annoying is Daniel Smith.. it shrinks terribly and I've had a couple pop out of the pans in the dry state and had to chase them down when I open a palette. For a paint which is that expensive it makes you see just how much paint is actually in their tubes vs evaporative liquids. If you wish to pan their paint you may be better off buying the prefilled pans to get the most for your money, IDK I'd have to run the math. The stickiness factor does depend on your local environment.. for example M.Graham is notorious for not drying but it dries just fine for me.. I live in the central US and it's quite dry here. I know others who live in the humid south and have actually had theirs run all over their palette or even mold.
It has to do with where u live it varies alot
Some colours from Daniel Smith like Mayan Red, Cobalt and Viridian shrunk in the pan when they dried and also they can't hold on they are dropping from the pan all the time even I put some water droplets inside the pan for sticking them. Also, I didn't know that Stephen Quiller has his own watercolours! I love his colour choices and painting technique. His watercolours look very shinny.
Thank you, Teoh for sharing these useful information with us. As a person who bought colours from Teoh, I can testify that they were greatly poured and cared for. It was a pleasure for me to buy them.
Thanks! :-D
Schmincke (Horadam) fan here :) So far I've filled my 1/2 pans with 16 different colors. They dry up really nicely and I only noticed some cracks with french ultramarine and cobalt green dark. I love how the paints re-wet and behave on paper, compared to my W&N Cotman 12-color palatte. The latter seems a bit more viscous once activated and applied. Thanks for sharing, Teoh!
There really is no comparison between Horadam (professional) and Cotman (student-grade with less pigment and way more filler)
@@AlphaGeekgirl True, that might seem to be the case. You'd probably have more gum arabic in the mix to reach the same intensity with student grade paint. Would love to try the Akademie (the students' grade from Schmincke) to compare, though.
I only have W&N and Daniel Smith. I think it really depends, I found that W&N shrank a lot, but when I did it for the Green Gold, it was perfectly smooooooooth. I have some Sennelier ones I bought from someone else and they dried perfectly in a pan.
i have several travel palettes, filled with mgraham and daniel smith .. i love them both , but the mgraham is my absolute favorite.. the colors are so rich , and rewet easily ..
once they've had a few days to dry , they don't come out of the pans at all! i do not live in a humid environment ( i live in new york , ), so mold has not been an issue, either..
no other watercolors seem to compare, to my eyes , in terms of the richness of color .. love them 👍👍thanks for the video, teoh !!
My Mayan Orange cracks like that, too!
Also, a small amount of Primatek Daniel Smith colors won’t re-wet at all once poured and dried into a pan. Hematite Genuine and Burnt Bronzite genuine are two. It’s like they turn into little square stones! I have 14 primatek colors and those are the only two that turned into unusable little pan rocks. I should have saved them in case a geology teacher was in need of rocks.
Lastly from what I have, Moonglow when used from a dried pan will have more of a blackish tint whereas Moonglow straight from the tube has a more purpleish tint. It might be from how its two pigments blend together.
Hello; great video👍 I prefer Winsor Newton and Daneil Smith too
My worst experience is Sennelier : great paint but never really dry in pan as my paint is still very sticky for almost one year 😳
Sennelier is very fluid, too fluid. Jackson's Art Watercolour (rebrand of Sennelier) behaves the same. These are good for use indoors though.
It depends on the paint pigment too! I've found that for traditionally hard to rewet paints, Sennelier is much easier to work with. And I like Daniel Smith, but even some of their paint formulas... French Ultramarine, for example, dried into a rock, and I live in tropical Asia...
Great video Teoh! I love Daniel Smith watercolors, but the paint shrinks so much!! Much more than any other brand I have tried! I agree with you about Winsor and Newton; it is a wonderful paint to squeeze into pans for plein air painting.
I use Turner watercolors and find they dry very well over night, do not crack and shrink very little. I must admit I do not have a palette that uses pans or half pans. Mine has wells around the edges, but I do not see that would matter all that much.
Sennelier takes forever to dry and honestly they never get fully dry🤣😭 Mission Gold as well, most pans stay moist. Very moist, to be honest. I had some problems with drying Jackson’s paints as well. Daniel Smith, Schmincke and W&N either dry prettily or crack horribly, there’s no inbetween🤣🤣
To add to your experience, I found that Sennelier half-pans are better pans than their tubes if you want tubes-to-pans. I found out if I want specifically Sennelier pans, I need to buy their pans, not tubes.
@@hiddenshadow2105 true. I bought two of their pans, but I gotta say I don’t really like how they rewet. The colors aren’t as vibrant as those I’ve poured into pans🥲 I don’t know if it’s the colors I’ve bought, but they look rather matte, which isn’t my preference
@@marisawu3646 What makes the analysis difficult that sometimes in a big paint set some paints behave one way and some in some other ways. I had a good experience with their pan-paints but only having four, it might be I just got lucky.
Sennelier and Jackson's are honey based paints so they will never appear fully dry, to varying degrees depending on the climate of where you live
@@MandaPanda254 yeah, I was aware when I bought them. I live in Italy and it can get quite humid, that’s probably why some pans literally overflow with binder that has separated from the pigment🥲
For a grad gift I bought myself a 24 set Mijello pure pigment set and poured into pans , I also have two Winsor and Newton which dry very evenly but don’t seem to be as strong in color to the Mijello . I also have Holbein and they dry very well in pans ,Daniel smith is my favorite to put in pans as they dry matte and I don’t have to worry about accidentally getting paint on my fingers. I keep them all in a Meeden 48 pan tin ,I was able to fit about 65 colors in it when taking the metal tray out.
Mission Gold is very good. Really worth the money.
I use a lot of Jacksons and Sennelier as they re wet beautifully. I do find that in the UK they benefit from overnight drying on the radiator, for which I make cardboard trays to hold my pans and place a folded sheet of paper like a tent over the top to aid drying. I find these pans dry nice and firm and re wet great. I must point out that honey based paints no matter how well you dry them will become very sticky again in the humidity of summer. For me in the UK, it's not so much as to run in my palette, but I am constantly sticking my thumb in the lemon yellow as I hold my palette, which is a pain.
Be sure to test how dry they are before you bring them out for outdoor painting.
Some paint may still move in their dry form. You can check by tilting the pan slightly under normal conditions (inside a watercolour box) and check the next day.
I have recently fallen in love with Schmincke! :)
My M Graham paints still flow a week after I’ve poured them into pans! 🤣
So I forgot to dry them properly and they got mold, but then after I dried them properly, they were a dream to work with
Surprising observation on DS cerulean Teoh. I use DS’s cerulean blue chromium and have never had an issue in my travel palette so I guess there really must be a difference in the pb35 and pb36
Thank you for always giving great informations. I always go to your youtube videos and blogs product review before buying any products. thanks for everything! hope you have a nice weekend!
Thank's for your tips! I recently saw my pans, either poured from tubes or purchased as is, becoming sticky due to the humid weather. I found some small silica gel pouches (I always kept them) and manage a way to fit them into my watercolor boxes. Even if the box cannot be completely closed, it worked well to reduce stickyckiness.
Interesting idea, would silica gel work if kept close to but not in the paint tin?
That's very helpful!
A couple other brands I've tried are Rembrandt, which dries really well in pans, and M. Graham (made with honey) stays sticky for a long time, and when we had really humid weather, it didn't fully dry at all.
I love the van gogh paints dried down for sketching. The American Da Vinci paints work well also. WN and Daniel Smith dry too hard in my climate
I was wondering about the daVinci paints. Thank you for sharing.
Wow this is so interesting! I tested similar to this but with other pigments from different brands and I've come to come to completely different result! I actually found w&n and ds they dried extremely hard and veryyyy hard to rewet. I had the best results with schminke and holbein . They dried the most even and were the best rewetability afterwards. I also tried white nights, sennelier and they didn't dry enough but perfect for my on desk palette. My qor and mission gold paint was a happy medium and maimeri blu was a mediocre.
I think it has a lot to do with humidity in the environment .
Thanks a lot for the nice video. Can you please, write the numbers primary colors (one clean pigment) of schminke, daniel smith and winsor newton?
From all the brands I've tried, M. Graham is the only one that will stay a bit sticky, so I leave those paints at home. And just like you I love to fill pans with W&N, Schmincke and Daniel Smith
This is the exact video I'm looking for as I'm planning to upgrade to artist-grade watercolor paints. I'm looking for tube paints to fill my Portable Painter palette. I'm considering getting Daniel Smith, Holbein or Mission Gold. I live in the tropics. I hope any one of these are good given our climate. This video is very helpful to me. Thanks a lot, Teoh!
I live in a desert place and my mission golds never dry, except for ultramarine deep, the rest only dry when I let them out for a couple of hours, permanent yellow light NEVER dried despite weeks, maybe months.
They have honey in them so for a tropical I wouldnt recommend honey based for traveling, maybe for home or studio but travelling they have a high probability of messing up everything around them and u lose your paint n maybe clothes since mijello golds are pretty straining
Thank you so much for that info. I'll keep that in mind when I make my purchase.
I haven’t been painting long but what I like are the full pans filled half full so I have lots of room for the brush.
As far as I know the Schmincke Horadam paints in tubes are the same recipe as in pans. Should be an easy refill :-D. Had good results with Shinhan PWC.
I fill my pans just half and let it dry and fill it up the second time.
I have 4 or 5 Van Gogh paint tubes and they dry in the pans beautifully, they shrinked as much as my daniel smiths did and they stay smooth, at least the ones I have
I live in a hot, humid, tropical country and I find Holbein to be great to be used in pans. Some of them kinda have a plastic look to them when dried lol but they work great anyway so it doesn't bother me. Most of my DS paints dry alright, but colors like amethyst, ultramarine blue, mayan blue become quite hard so you need to prep them with some water before they can be used with no problems. Sennelier CAN dry in a pan-- but only if you haven't used it in like a year lol
Loved the video and the discussion. I also like your new avatar/thumbnail image!
Thanks for useful info and insights Paul in the UK
I rarely have cracking from any brand, and Daniel Smith works best for me--but I live in Seattle so DS paint is made in and tested for our climate. Some Winsor & Newton paints can get pretty hard, but I just add a small drop of glycerin to make them behave. Some MGraham or Sennelier colors are too sticky for me, but others dry well. I've heard that the Stephen Quiller is the same as or made by Blockx.
I don't fill up pans all the way, I use full pans and fill at an angle so that it's easier on my brushes and I can make nice puddles for washes at one side, so filling up a pan perfectly is not really an issue.
I know it’s a year later but wanted to say I’m in Seattle too but I have severe shrinking from my Daniel Smith and Winsor & Newton pans. Interesting that you don’t.
I would consider W&N if I would switch to artist grade paint, (W&N because it's available near my area), but I read that it would be hard to reactivate if poured into pans after watching Denise's review of the paints. I read on the Jane Blundell blog that I could add glycerin to the paint.
Maimeriblu makes the best glycerine to add tto paints....esp Windsor Newton which cracks badly in upstate N.Y USA. It has honey.
Nice to know! I was wondering if you would in the future test out fabriano 1264 watercolor paper? It comes in pads and is very reasonable priced! Very curious how this compares to their Artistico!!
Thanks for suggestion. I did not know Fabriano has this
I should have also told you the watercolor pad has 30 sheets for under $10 at Blick and that it is made of virgin wood pulp.
I use shinhan paints, and most of their color are never dry inside a pan (semi opaque and opaque ones)
Same here, I only have Sepia for Shinhan PWC. It looks moist and glossy
Mine too. Very likely there's honey in them. Humidity at my place is quite high which makes it more difficult for the paint to dry. Not 100% dry is not a problem. More importantly they should not be watery especially if they are to be used outdoors.
I like the QOR and mission gold in half pans, I'm in the subtropics (Brisbane, Australia) so they don't dry quickly, but they dry enough for travel
I filled a palette with Daniel Smith as I watched. I wish the tubes didn't explode when you open them - I had to carefully clean the tubes and caps to avoid them drying shut.
seems like good quality paints for these pans, mission Gold seems like a really good paint, I like how it dries, on your pictures you show here, I like how some of the Schmincke brand is good quality! and I would prefer the granulation type. thanks for sharing with us,
I agree with what someone else said, a lot of these paints (water-based vs humidity, duh!!) react differently in different humidities. I live in Texas, very hot and dry, makes laying down water washes a challenge, but I've gotten used to it. I suspect that another culprit in the cracking and flaking of some of these paints may also have to do with whether the paints are stored in a metal palette box, which can get very hot in my state. I use plastic, double-walled Mijello boxes from South Korea. They are rubber sealed and air tight and keep the paints quite safe. Also, lint, dust, and pet hair can't mess them up when not in use. 😜 However, in a humid area, the paints, no matter what kind they are, might mold (I saw one artist advise that a tiny drop of vinegar would stop that, but I've never tried it myself, I don't have that problem in my area, and I don't know if it would affect the paint quality, but it's worth a test if mold is a problem in high humidity). Once again, great video. Btw, with paints that are hard to reactivate, I prewet them with a warm water mist, it helps. And with some of my paints, I cut a fitted sleeve of parchment to gently lay over the paints before I snap the lids shut. It helps prevent cross-mixing. Thanks, Teoh, A+.
That's a good point about metal vs plastic affecting the paints in hot and/or humid conditions. I have my M Graham paints in a metal pan, that's probably why they dry enough to be viable, although I still would hesitate to travel with them. Good tips!
@@everartokelli Try a Mijello waterproof plastic palette sometime, I've really been pleased with mine, I have several now.
I use Daniel Smith, Schmnicke, PWC, M Graham and Rembrandt. The color on M Graham is awesome but because it has honey it stays sticky and will move around in the pan and even out of it if you do not keep your pallet flat.
Windsor e Newton is my favorite.
But i love every brand of colors..
I like the colors..
I use holbein, jackson's art and mission gold in full pans, they all dry well in pans, but they also do crack... I think it's probably have something to do with the pigment, since it appears that those who crack are granulating pigment like ultramarine (PB29), yellow orcher (PY42), venetian red (PR101) and cobalt turquoise (PB28) and non granulating pigment like pyrrole orange red shade (PO73), quin red (PR209), quin magenta (PR122) and phthalo turquoise (PB16), usually doesnt crack.
First. 😊 I love all your videos. You are so talented my friend.
Schmincke says that their formula for plans and tubes is the same -and their plans are poured and or extruded (like W&N). I use Schmincke Horadam from tubes and let them dry in pans, and have always worked beauti6 without too much shrinking. Another worthy mention is White Nights, which recently started selling tubes. They also dry well and are not sticky. Jackson's remain quite sticky...quite like Sennelier in fact. Thanks for this comparison and review!
Really, your White Nights dry to not be sticky? Which colors have you tried? Do you have a trick for drying them? I am asking because I really like those paints, but I just hate how everything sticks to them, and I regularly have to clean them with a toothpick, pulling cat hair and other fluff off of them, both the poured and the ready made ones. I had a pan of their cerulean blue (self-poured) sitting on my desk and I put my feet up, and hours later, after I had already been outside and everything, my husband asked me what the weird thing is that is sticking to the back of my leg. 😅 When I pulled the pan off, it was half empty and the other half of the paint was stuck to my pants. And that pan wasn't freshly poured, it was poured something like two months before then. That is how sticky White Nights are for me.
@@justacatwhocantype Thanks for your reply. Funny story with cerulean blue 😂 I have over 50 half pans...and around 10 tubes. I have posted ultramarine blue, hansa yellow, burnt sienna and cobalt blue, so far. These have dried well. Sometimes shiny but not sticky. I guess this might have to do with humidity or temperature? I also pour in stages...and not all at once. First up to half of the pan, let it dry for a few days and only then pour the rest. The I wait for another few days...and pour again, as water evaporates and it will naturally shrink a bit each time. Pouring paint tests my patience...but it is the only way to carry paints for urban sketching. In any case, my palette is stored vertically and the paint remains in its place. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
@@berolinastrassmann You know, I think you are probably doing it right by pouring them little by little. I just dumped mine into the pan because this works fairly well for me with other brands, but unlike White Nights, most of the other brands that I use do not contain honey. Thank you for the idea, I feel silly that I did not come up with that one by myself. 😅
The only paints I don’t use in pan are viridian and cobalt, or more expensive pigments like lapiz lazuli. I feel the best brand for pans is QOR because of the binder(aquazol), and regular watercolor except for w&n i feel m.graham does the best job.
I live in South Florida, so I have a issue with sticky paints due to the humidity too. I rarely paint outside so i don't mind it at all but I do try to avoid paints that dry with cracks as I worry about my brushes rubbing inside the pans.
I use an old brush to get the paint out, the my good brushes in the pallet.
I fill mine with Holbein and they work perfectly. My Winsor & Newton colors tend to detach and fall from the pans!
I also find Holbein to be very nice to fill pans with.
very interesting video! I've been enjoying using holbein paints in pans, but I'm planning to try van gogh tubes in the future since it's a lot easier on the wallet in the US. 😂
I live in Southeast Asia. I poured some white nights pains in pans. They never dry (literally for months).
Your update frequency is really high, a bit like a newsletter, there is always a good introduction. Great sharing!
I like cracks in my paint, it makes picking up paint easier.
Be careful not to bend the bristles of your brush
@@teohyc Is that why cracks are to be avoided? Hmmm, I'll be careful. ...or fill up the cracks with new paint ;-)
I just know Grumbacher Academy white doesn’t rewet well. I bought my set used, the white is a hunk of rock. At least the other colors are still usable!
You should do a rewet test, cause some paints have another formula than in pans, so difference makes sense
More than once, I have made a sticky mess of my palette by tossing it in a bag before a recently-poured pan of M. Graham paint had dried. It’s another honey-based brand, so drying takes a while. There great paints, though-the only viridian that resets well.
Dayler Rowney Aquafine. you can buy the tubes from Jacksons
Very thorough review, thank you!
Important to note the two winsor colors are opera rose and manganese blue hue I haven’t tried more “natural “ colors from their line though.
Very helpful, thanks Teoh
Good review! An important consideration for travel palette building. Another one for me is how easy the paint comes back out of the pan after drying, in the event you want to transfer the brick to a different/larger pan or different palette. Daniel Smith has been the best for me in this regard as it stays more flexible than the other brands I use (Windsor Newton, White Knights, Van Gogh).
Thank you Teoh!
Nice video! So you find that Van Gogh watercolors are ok for halfpans and for going outdoors too? Because I want to fill a palette only with Van Gogh watercolors.
I only have two colours from Van Gogh so I can't say much. But if there's no honey, it should be fine.
Climate definitely matters because I have found that Daniel Smith dries horribly where I live (desert). I avoid buying them unless I have no other choice because most colors I have tried from them shrink so much and dry very hard, which is unfortunate because I love granulation and they have so many pretty granulating colors. M Graham and DaVinci dry the best with hardly any shrinking and rewet so nicely, M Graham more easily because of the honey. Sennelier and Holbein rewet nicely but shrink and crack a bit. Schmincke tends to shrink but not as bad as Daniel Smith and both of them do better if sprayed with water before painting.
I'm wondering, would putting those in a vacuum chamber thing help with cracking issue? Assuming there could be some air affecting the drying process.
I used to place my watercolors in pans, but everytime the paint gets to the bottom, its quite difficult to get. I know i can always refill it with new paint, but i prefer to fully finish every bit of paint before refilling. I soon opted for palettes with slanted wells instead, especially because i dont "swap out" my colors anyways
I wanted to ask you if paints with honey in them are very dirty/sticky?
I saw in one of your videos how Sennelier paints caused paint to come off the handle from a brush that had some paint dripped on it.
I wanted to buy M Graham paints but found out that they also contain honey.
Now I think I will buy Schmincke because I like non-granulating paints.
Paint with honey can be sticky because they absorb water and are almost always wet with glossy surface.
@@teohyc Ok. Thanks for your reply. 🙂
now i have daniel smith, whitenights, mijello, holbein, sennelier, shinhan and arteza.
the one that dry and crack here is arteza. while sennelier is harder to re-wet.
How did whitenights do?
@@edzejandehaan9265 nice but it's too sticky.
I've had problems with Roman Szmal being too sticky and never fully drying, even after several months. I'm not sure if they've changed their formula as I recently got a pan that didn't have this problem.
I just bought 35 pans of Roman szmal ,what do you think of their paints?
Maybe they have honey in them. Not drying completely is not a big problem unless they are too fluid to be transported in watercolour box.
Thanks for this comprehensive guide Teoh! ☺
I just have a question for you, any tips on how to dry your paints? I know that the palette has to be halfcovered if it is to be in the sun, but can i dry it in an aircon room? Because i've tried drying some Daniel Smith paints, and because I was unsure about the method to go about drying them and kept changing, it may have contributed to the rate of the drying 😅
Air-con is dry air but it's not going to dry the pans significantly faster. It's just gonna dry the surface. You still have to leave the pans out for a few days to dry completely.
For new pans, I actually place them on top of my computer near the exhaust where it's hot. It dries fast. I pour a bit, let the paint crack, fill the gaps, and repeat until I fill the pan to the top.
@@teohyc Ohh!! So aircon doesn't really help since it's on the surface! 🤣
That's a great advice! To dry near the computer's exhaust!! Thanks for the tips Teoh! I just bought a couple of new paints from Straits Art, will try the more efficient method of drying 😇 Thank you!
Some of the earth/iron colors by Winsor & Newton are prone to cracking
I am very surprised by W&N. Some will be good (reds, yellows, blues, etc) but W&N themselves say NOT to fill pans, but do not clarify why. I would of thought Schmincke would be above W&N as it's the same formula of paint for their pans and tubes where as W&N has different formulas.
That said - I found W&N Cotman tubed paint in pans activate better than their pans.
I poured WnN in a few pans and didn't notice any difference. I almost think that this warning is because they want to sell pans for twice of what you get if you pan them manually from the tube.
Their pans are very expensive. Certain colours don't dry well with WN. E.g. French Ultramarine, Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber. They dry with very dry surfaces that don't stick to the inner walls of pans.
Although they are very expensive, I had great luck with Qor’s - they dry in the pans really well, but they are easy to rewet. Sennelier takes forever to dry, especially in a humid climate. The rumor is that Jackson’s paints are actually made by Sennelier. If so, they are a good bargain.
Tear away Jackson's tube label and you can see the Sennelier stamp. th-cam.com/video/bVSVuMfiGzw/w-d-xo.html
I've been thinking of sending some paint to a friend in Brazil, but I'm in the UK, I've been worried that she may have issues with the paint consistency and difference in humidity.
Just make sure the paint dries completely before mailing. You don't want paint to flow out.
Are sennelier la petite aquarelle ok for pans?
Yes. It's a good brand.
@@teohyc Thanks! I only want to buy 4-5 tubes, and I was thinking of cotman (or extra fine) tubes since they dont sell individual sennelier tubes in my art store. Do you know if there is any major differences between the cotman, the extra fine and sennelier?
@@amandine2239 Cotman is student brand. It's good too for beginners while not being too expensive. Not sure what Extra Fine you're referring to. For Winsor and Newton, they have Cotman and their other is the Artist Professional. Sennelier is considered artist grade. Check out this article if you're getting a beginner set www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolor-sets-beginners
@@teohyc I was refering to W&N artist brand :) (in France we say « fine » for student and « extra fine » for professional brand) i’ve been painting with watercolors for several years so I was thiking of using some artist tubes for a change.
I do not recommend pouring maimeri blu in climates that are not very hot or dry. It stays damp for a very long time, so it wont be good for outdoor painting
Anyone know how White Nights comperes to other paints in this respect?
It's a wc paint that retails in my neck of the woods for less than its weight in gold, unlike some other brands...
I buy White Nights in tubes and fill pans, never had any problem. I live in Europe, where the climate is not so humid or dry. I also use Schmincke, from tubes into pans, and they dry beautifully
White Nights has honey so will not dry completely. They still dry eventually, but with glossy surface, but at least they are not fluid and don't flow if you have to put them inside watercolour box to bring outdoors.
Thanks for both your replies, good to know.
I live in Germany and I have made the experience that White Nights will remain very sticky. Someone else here said that they do not have this problem, so the only thing I can imagine is that maybe this really depends on which pigments you buy from them. The ones that I have poured, cadmium yellow and cerulean blue, are barely any different from how they were when I poured them out, and that was months ago, so I do not expect any further changes. But then again I have also made the experience that most of their pans (and I have tried a lot of those, I think I currently have 45 or so) are also very sticky. There are a few that are ok, which is why I think that this could have something to do with the pigment used, and the factory pans are not nearly as bad as the self-poured pans, but I still have to clean most of them regularily because all kinds of stuff sticks to them. Totally lovely paints and at an amazing price, but be prepared that they, like most paints with honey in them, will, at least for the most part, remain quite soft and sticky.
@@teohyc Indeed, even if they are sometimes a bit shiny, they never melt or leak (at least in moderate European weather, where humidity is never too high). I started buying pans, but am switching to tubes. They fill and dry well in my experience. But I guess if people keep them in humid climates, the experience might differ.
schmincke and Danel Smith watercolors uses the same formula for their pans and tubes
QOR watercolors shrink 50% so you are really getting less product. They do rewet nicely. Sennelier I haven't put into pans yet. But the pans they sell are nice and rewet beautiful. Holbein also have in tubes and haven't put into pans. Will update you on those.
If you are travelling lots of the senelier tube paints will be too messy, but not all. So you have to pick and choose. Quin gold won’t dry, and phthalocyanine blue is just asking for trouble, so I’d get those as ready made pans myself. Senelier yellow deep for example will set, so you can choose for that one.
how many half pans can you fill with a 5ml tube approximately?
Two. Half pan is around 2ml
Do you guys have problems to rewet W&N watercolors? I am afraid to pour mines 🙄
When W&N says not to put their paints into tubes, I don't think they mean that this will cause an actual problem, but simply that the formulation of their tube watercolors is not exactly the same as that of their pan watercolors, which means that pouring your own pan will not be the same thing as buying one. That's all. As for things like rewetting, there is absolutely no problem with the poured W&N paints. I know lots of people who do this, and I do as well and really have no reason to complain. W&N is actually one of my favorite brands for pouring, it dries and rewets very nicely.
@@justacatwhocantype thanks a lot for your feedback, it's good to know. So far I avoided buying W&N for this reason
Certain colours will dry and won't stick to the inner walls of the plastic pans, and will fall out easily. Eg. Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber, French Ultramarine. Those are ones will behave as so.
Thanks Teoh 😊
Is it true that if you keep them in the fridge the paint won’t shrink?
No. Just squeeze the paint in small separate pours to fill the gap.
I like Winsor. Newton.
Hi, I'm new to watercolour painting. Can someone tell me why it's bad if the paint cracks when drying?
Not bad, but doesn’t look nice. 😂
@@teohyc 🤣🤣🤣 Ah I see, I thought it might be damaging in some way or a sign of bad paint lol! Well, anyway, thank you for replying. I’m a recent subscriber and love your videos. I’ve learnt a lot in a short space of time and I also love your work and art style. Please keep it up ❤️❤️
I have converted most of my colors to DaVinci Paints of California. I think Dan Smith just overrated, they do have a LOT of choices, yeah overkill in my opinion. I have Schmincke pastels but only 2 colors of watercolor pans. I used to have Mission Gold in my studio palette, I am just so taken with DaVinci they have simply dominated my palettes overall since I have discovered them! I have given away many of the DS paints, I cannot sell them as I believe that they are not good.
Excellent video! In my experience, the ones that dry the best in a humid climate are W&N and Schmincke. And they rewet fine. Mijello is not too bad (but I've completely fallen out of love with them). The worst is M. Graham... they're beautiful paints but just refuse to dry.
Daniel Smith verditer blue is terrible in a pan. Doesn’t ever dry and leaks out everywhere - ruining my other precious DS paints. ☹️