It's okay to disagree, but the hate speech against other people in the comments is starting to get out of hand, specially against Yui fans. Generalizing is never okay. From now on, any form of disrespect, insult or attack will be deleted from the comment section. If you have nothing nice or nurturing to say, please think twice before commenting. Kindly, Omajination
Thank you for your positive comments. From early on, BABYMETAL had a goal of going at it for ten years. In an interview, SU and MOA reflects on 2018 (when YUI left) they had a moment of weakness, but both strongly agreed to make it to the 10 year goal line. BABYMETAL started 2010.10, so their goal was to have a 10 year event(or announcement) on 2020.10.10. But the pandemic threw a monkey wrench into their plans, so they had the event spread over 10 live concerts in 2021, and on 2021.10.10 (exactly one year after their original plan) put out their TH-cam video "The One - Stairway to Living Legend". It is most likely (though I have no confirmation on this) that the video was taken around the time of the 10 BABYMETAL concerts @ Budokan (stage settings are so similar) So when we take the above into consideration, we can understand why they did not come up with a "replacement" for YUI's position for the last couple of years. Also I feel that the three stars that went flying into space in "Stairway to Living Legend" represented the original three, and the way they brought closure to the original BABYMETAL at their April concert makes sense.
Fantastic perspective. Wish more people would take into consideration the artist's feelings towards the entire situation. Surely Momoko knows there are diehard Yui fans out there and she isn't trying to be her replacement. Rather, be a new piece to the evolution of the group. She has earned her place and hope they have a successful journey forward!
First of all...love your videos. They really show your passion for BABYMETAL. I'm an older guy who found my love of rock music at 18, in 1975, when I attended a concert in a small venue for a new band on the scene called KISS. To me, this is what Rock & Roll was supposed to be, loud, rebellious and way over the top. I fanboyed out big time until they released, "Rock and Rollover". After that they had member problems and they went out of favor with me. A year ago I discovered Babymetal, and that passion to Rock & Roll came flooding back! The way I see it. If Yui wanted back in to Babymetal, she would be back in Babymetal...PERIOD! These girls are no longer 14 and 16 year old girls. They've grown and matured into a new Babymetal, that is on a path to more success than they had when they were younger. Momoko has more than earned the spot to be part of that success. Dedication and hard work is what is needed to exceed, and she has proved she's up to that task. I REALLY look forward to what this new era in Babymetal is going to be.
I congratulate you for not keeping those feelings and sharing them with others, there are many people who may feel the same as you and your words are useful to them :) May the fox god bless you💕People like you are the ones that are needed in the community And thanks for your videos, I like them a lot
Good explanation of your feelings. Many great points and thoughts. Definitely agree, and I'm sure many people do, with alot of what you are trying to get across 🍅🤘🦊
I used to dream Koba-metal holding a special concert featuring Yui-metal where she can finally have a closure to her saga while the lore of Momo-metal starts. It would have been the most bittersweet show to remember.
the problem for yui's fans is that they refused to mourn her departure, now they are faced with the reality that babymetal must move on, even babymetal itself kept their hopes up by not replacing her for 5 years, it's hard but yui made the decision to leave😢
I agree and also I bealive the band and all that involves Babymetal mourn her departure for 5yrs and now they are ready to move on start a new chapter.
It would have been easier if Yui had restarted her career in entertainment outside of Babymetal. But I guess is she was/is still in school and wanted to focus on that.
I can't speak for every Yui fan out there. But as an ultimate Yui fan myself, the reason why it's been so hard for me to let go is because for a whole 5 years, there hasn't been a single appearance nor proper health update on her. The only thing we had left from her were her BABYMETAL days and an indefinite "see you later". So inevitably, we can only come back to the old content she was in. If we had known her hiding mode would take so long from the start, I think we would've managed to cope with it better. But now, we don't even know if she's ever gonna show any life signs again, which only makes it harder to assimilate. It's the lack of closure and our hopes being crushed that makes it painful (at least for me).
@@omajination unfortunately it is the iron protection of the private life of the Japanese, as much as we would like to know if she is okay or what is in her life, we will not know unless she decides to appear, I doubt it, nothing can be done, I always think so How can it be that not a single photo of her appears or someone saying that they saw her and that she's fine. In Japan when they make the decision to "disappear" it's serious 😪😪
I'm a big Yui fan from 2013. I love Yui, I miss Yui, she was my favorite; I am very glad Momoko is Momometal. Everytime I see Babymetal I will miss Yui, she lit the stage up everytime I saw her perform. But Momo is pretty great too. I've only seen Momo twice but she deserves it if anyone does.
Good rant. We needed a third member. The universe is in balance again. I was a Momoko fan from day one so I am biased, but whoever it was going to be. We needed it. Frickin' Iine is back you guys! This is the way.
I think babymetal was giving Yui a chance to return if she wanted to. After the budokan performances they went on haitus for a year, and that's when they started to think about how to go from there. They can't just go the rest of babymetal career rotating backing dancers in Yui's spot, because it soon become awkward with people wanting the avengers to be micced, and babymetal just works better as a trio, as that was the initial idea. In the hiatus they probably asked Yui if she wanted to return to babymetal, and we can conclude that yui did not want to come back, maybe because she enjoys life as a non celebrity, maybe her health issues are still stopping her, who knows. But, the reason Amuse didn't want to add someone new in straight away is because is would be an insult to the fans of babymetal, replacing yui when her departure is still a fresh wound, and eliminating her chance of returning once she got better. Sooner or later, a third member, weather Yui or not, would of had to be introduced as a permanent member, and babymetal just took the chance of this album to fo that, and to take a different path and see how it goes. Momoko was probably the best candidate to take her position up, as she's familiar with the dance and lyrics, performed with babymetal the most out of the three avengers, and earned THE ONE'S respect, too the point where most were calling on amuse to mic her and make her a permanent member.
Yes, I fully agree with this. I'd also like to add that Su and Moa has been clear about the fact that they still talk to Yui. It seems likely that there's been an ongoing conversation about this the whole time. That she disappeared from the public eye doesn't mean she's not present in their life. People sometimes act like she's in a coma or went to outer space.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!Maybe you don't know it, but I started trying to make videos because I watched your videos!! I've been a BABYMETAL fan for a short time,But I tried my best to complete the relevant knowledge/story/setting, As you say ,for New begin of Babymetal, I'm so proud of MOMO-METAL become offical member!,But I'm also sad that the story of YUI in my heart is over,But I definitely will suport Yui whatever she want to do. Babymetal made a good decisions were made which allowed them to continue to grow and move forward,I'm sory about my poor English Thank you for explaining BABYMETAL to new fans
I am pretty sure Yui has an NDA that was signed to not give any details about her time with Babymetal... Koba has always been about lore with babymetal. Do you notice that every interview they give is in there stage outfits... When Electric Callboy did their Behind the scenes video for Ratatata, The girls were not shown that much. and when they were, it was in costume... but they were never shown having fun or goofing off. I am pretty sure Yui is fine and still is on the Amuse Payroll. not for her silence... but for her contribution. As Far as Momoko, I think she added something special to Babymetal. She is super funny... very Talented and of course, Gorgeous! Sometimes you have to just sit back and enjoy... and be thankful we have BabyMetal.
i lived in japan and worked in a little cafe my ex wife used to own for a few years, had babymetal just casually come in one day, and the funniest thing was, they spent the entire time talking about my height, for context im 7'7" and my ex wife (was still married at the time) was 4'7" it was so funny to hear them asking themselves things about being tall, then after about 5 minutes su asked me about my height and we had a 30 minute chat about it, they were shocked to find that i refuse to let anyone call me by my surname, i said "doesnt matter who you are, friends, family or some homeless guy in an alley, you call me big frank and thats that, wont let anyone say otherwise" i told them about my twin sister who is 6'6" about how everyone else from my family is no taller than 5'2" including my father, and after the chat, they paid, said thank you, posed for a polaroid photo with me and just went off with there manager and later that day they announced yui would be leaving, i still have that polaroid, its on my current workplaces wall
@@piogg2398 i see it every day at my work, i now run an agricultural garage, i specialise in restoration and repairs of vintage and antique tractors, the polaroid was taken in a novel way, babymetal are framed perfectly, which cuts off the top third of me, its cute and comical, had my photo done with a few other musicians in that cafe, since it was across the road from a recording studio. im still on good terms with my ex wife who still runs the cafe (weirdly every japanese ex of mine im still close friends with) she says that babymetal had been a few times since i left japan, and were sad that id left
I know that maybe those things that Moa and Su said about Yui are completely against what is happening right now, but is possible that they didn’t have more options anymore. The sedition to continue as a duo sounds good in the Metal Galaxy era, but Kano and Riho left the Avengers to make their projects, so Momoko was the only girl who steels supporting Babymetal, so maybe announcing Babymetal and just one Avenger is a little bit weird, is like why Momoko is still calling Avenger if is just one? Is possible that makes it harder for Su and Moa still be like a duo. So probably that's the reason why they decided to call Momoko a new member. As you said, it passed more than 5 years and the only way to keep going is with that decision, because the dance is for 3 people. So I think the things that Su and Moa said about Yui are totally genuine and they never were disrespectful to her, but after many years, became more and more difficult to keep that duo format.
Also I don't think they planned to have a third member again when they went on as a duo, but after performing with momoko so much it was just a natural progression. Just look at any of their performances before the hiatus and they're all enjoying being together so much. I've always thought she was the most compatible of the avengers.
Great video. I'm a Yui fan too but also a BABYMETAL fan. I feel the same as you happy that Momoko is the new member with a mic but sad that Yui is not back although I always knew she was never coming back. They would have added a third member earlier if it hadn't been for covid and knowing how Koba likes his LORE they could only do it now. Anyway I'm here to continue the journey with (the new) BABYMETAL KITSUNE UP 🤘🦊🤘
I very much feel they didn't add a new member out of respect for Yuimetal, not because of covid or lore. Covid only messed up the 10 year celebration, which would always have come before any decision was made on how to move on. Close the Yuimetal chapters first, by celebrating the 10 years.
Que buen video, es de mucha ayuda para aclarar la confusión y gracias por compartirnos tus sentimientos. Estoy muy de acuerdo contigo, no podría agregar más. Solo quiero que exista respeto por parte del fandom para ambas, Momoko y Yui. Te mando un abracito, jamás vamos a olvidar a Yui. 🍅🖤
Unfortunately I never met Babymetal with Yui, but only with Momoko (guiltily late), but I have always had the utmost admiration for Yuimetal, even though I love Momometal madly!!!🦊❤️🦊
unfortunately it's a hard thing for fans to accept when a long time member or a fan favourite member of a band leaves, a similar thing occurred not long ago in one of my other favourites fear factory where the singer of 31 years and the only consistent member of the band left, and it was hard for me and for other fans to accept. But the thing is some people just want change in their life and there is unfortunately nothing us fans can do about it...
Always great to talk about things when people need it. 5:02 Yuimetal and Moametal were meant to be twins visually. So they continued with that theme, that's all it was. Nobody in Babymetal is betraying Yui(metal), Babymetal for years tried the duo with a dancer and it just doesn't work as well, that they've done that for many years shows how much they respect Yui. If they had immediately or shortly after replaced her, THAT would be disrespectful and betrayal. Babymetal just works better with We don't know the whole story, but however we think about it: 10 years was specifically chosen, maybe even before Yuimetal left, to be the moment for a break and to rethink of what Babymetal should be. And it turns out to be a good time to close the Yuimetal chapter. We can both love the tomato and the peach. That's totally fine. I personally think Yui is probably happy that it's a Sakura Gakuin member, her love for SG is immense. My thinking is: she is probably more sad about Sakura Gakuin having been shut down than her leaving Babymetal, if that makes sense. And I hope she got a satisfying answer from other people inside of Amuse on why it needed to be.
It's the very fact that we, the public, are left wondering, guessing and speculating that is WRONG ! Where is the hard evidence that Yui is even alive ?
@@wave8359 It's Japan, a completely different culture. They don't talk about what medical issue someone has, that's private and private lives stay private. Often even rude to ask. My guess is she isn't sick anymore or doesn't have any issues in daily life anymore, because Babymetal has said: she is doing OK. So that's it. She said her goodbye to Babymetal and she hopes to be back in entertainment eventually. What more do you want to hear ?
Yui decided to leave and they had to move on. It took them longer to replace her than they should have. Maybe they hoped she would come back. What is the controversy? Life goes on. New album is great anyway!
Took me a while too to get over Yui’s departure, but I am at peace with it now. Looking forward to what’s next for her as well as the new era of \m/ BABYMETAL \m/
as a relatively new fan i have spent the last few months immersed in BM music and studying their history. so i both fell in love with and lost yui in a very short space of time. i imagine it has been extremely hard for those who watched BM grow during the yui years, and invested so much of their lives in supporting those three talented young ladies who stole their hearts. after hearing all the rumors and speculation surrounding yui's departure i fall into the camp that she really didn't want to leave,but after her back injury from falling 8 feet off the stage at budokan, it became increasingly difficult for her to maintain the level of dance required for BM shows. also, when she left she was still a minor (in japan you are not considered and adult until age 20),so her parents may have had something to say about her continuing. if she was still under contract with amuse , and her back injury became even worse because they forced her to continue there could have been litigation leveled against the company. a lot of factors probably came into play,not just yui deciding she'd had enough. we may never know the whole story,but facts are facts,and momometal is an official member of BM. i don't think fans would rather they just packed it in,and faded into history. instead they're making new history,and a world tour is underway in hopes of healing all the broken hearts left behind from yui's departure. of course we all wish yui the best life possible moving on,and we still have all the wonderful videos and memories of her time with BM. that cannot be erased or taken from us. i am looking forward to seeing BM in october,and will be cheering at the top of my lungs after every song.
I absolutely agree with you, Babymetal decided to not be stuck in the past and evolve. The whole concept about a new Babymetal perfectly fits with Momoko becoming the new third member officially. I am happy for her and I am sure it will work out well. I wish Babymetal all the best and hope they will be able to entertain us for many years to come. PS: Yui will always be the OG and I hold her in a special place in my heart and will never forget her. ❤
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! ❤️ It's nice to know that I'm not the only one with this opinion And also, I have to say, you are incredibly beautiful!!!
I can't figure out why anyone makes such a big deal about Yui leaving or who replaces her considering it has absolutely no impact on how their music sounds. I could see being upset if she was forced out by the bands management but that wasn't the case, it was her decision. Why do anything other than wish her the best with whatever she does in the future and keep enjoying the music?
Yui was in the Babymetal band for 7 years, she was a pillar of Babymetal, with her choirs, dances and even songs that she sang together with Moa. Perhaps you met the band after Yui's departure and you would not understand the pain and sadness that her farewell from Babymetal causes her fans, since there were rumors that she would return to the band. We will always remember her with much love and affection, because she made us very happy while she was in the band
@@catolicomovie Well said, to add to that, if Yui did any kind of clarification/explanation/announcement on her decision for long term absence, fans likely would feel much better and could move ahead with some degree of clarity and relief. Sadly, there is none, fans have been left in the dark, which is really unfortunate, only time could heal. The way I see it, Yui's unique legacy will be memorialized forever in fan's heart, eventually things will move along, give new BM and member a chance, may or may not like her, and that's ok. With dedication, hard work and typical magnificent production, eventually those awesome girls could earn fan's heart and acceptance. Or just think of them as a brand new "Girl Metal" group, problem solved.
@@lousygeek She literally said it was her own decision to leave and also literally apologized for it. Before that she was absent for a long time because of a health issue and it's normal for japanese people to not share any information about their health issues publicly.
@@hachikuji_mayoi exactly. She herself made a statement. Amuse made a statement. Su, Moa and Koba addressed it numerous times in interviews. But some morons chose to look past all of that, and just focus on her picture still on Amuses webpage. Not on the front page, you really had to go digging for it. And some people seem to believe, Babymetal would still sound like 6 years ago, if Yui was still in the band. Which is just delusional.
@@catolicomovie if you remember her with much love and affection, you would accept her desicion to leave Babymetal five years ago. Her not being able to perform at Su's birthday must have hurt her alot, and leaving Babymetal was most likely also a tough but correct desicion. Su said it herself that "if Yui sees a path for herself and being a part of Babymetal prevents her from taking that path, we should all support her". But some people STILL won't let it to.
As a Yui fan, I've come to terms with her departure a long time ago. I would definitely welcome her back if she wanted to continue, but this is a new era and Momoko is a good addition to the group. And she definitely has the chops to be on Babymetal.
I never saw Momoko as a replacement for Yui. If they needed simply a replacement they would do it in 2018/19, with anybody. But they didnt. It seems Momoko built some unique connection and chemistry with Su and Moa to consider her as a part of BABYMETAL, she is genuinely special for them. And it is not like she earned her place in BM, or she deserves it for her hard work. No, it was not an audition, she was not earning her spot with years of work, waiting to finaly recognise her - I think thats unfair for both Momoko and Yui. I believe that if there was no Momoko or if someone else would be in her place, we wouldnt have a new member today, just another set of avengers or any other filler idea. I think that their stance about Yui is still genuine. At that time there was just the void after Yui, they were still experiencing terrible loss. But throughout years, calmly, step by step, they build relationship with Momoko on the same level as with Yui. Which made them consider performing as a trio, respecting the past and the present relationship with Yui. The closest analogy to me is a mourning widow, who doesnt look for a replacement of her late husband and is willing to remain single forever, but when she meets someone who happen to make her happy, she consider building a new realtionship. I think thats healthy, mature and respectful way to approach such things. Love, remember and respect the past, but dont give up on your life when there is so many great things you can still experience in future.
Thank you for bring up your opinions and deep analysis! I competely understand your feelings, cause i have those too. I think it was a necessary step in Babymetal journey. I don't think babymetal would have lasted too long if they hadn't renewed something. Su and Moa needed a break and something new to be motivated. With this addition we are now sure that BM will be around for many many years! (you don't make this announcement and then disband after only 2 years 😅) Also, it's nice to see you personally! I always loved your work and now I can appreciate you more for literally face us 🙂
What a great, balanced and thoughtful dissection of current Babymetal manifestation. I have only been a fan since "finding" them in 2018, and honestly...I have not stopped being amazed by them. At the time, I had no idea of all the turmoil that had overtaken them, but over time (and much video watching) I do understand. As you noted, I will truly miss Yui....those "early" days cannot be replaced, but things change and the project will continue as long as Su and Moa want it to (I hope). I have no issue with a third active member being added, shit...it took almost 5 years! You know there had to be plenty of time for Yui to solidify here decision, and once that was understood (plus Covid getting in the way), the process was moved forward. Having an Avenger on stage was mainly to create the "triad" feature of Babymetal (in my opinion), so it was logical to "replace" Yui, at some point. I just hope they are ALL happy and that we, as fans, are able to enjoy the wonderful experience that Babymetal is. Thank you again for the video, very well done. Kitsune up!
@omajination I agree with you in every single point. Of course I really miss our little tomato princess 🍅 Obviously her decision gave her fans a really hard time. But, it was HER decision and everyone should respect that. If people can't respect that, they're not real fans, they're just selfish. That's my opinion. We all can't even imagine how hard that must have been for Su and especially for Moa. Wherever Yui is right now and whatever she's doing, I hope she's doing great and I absolutely support her following her own dreams. My opinion about peach princess 🍑 Momo: No one deserves it more than her, to get her own mic and being called Momometal. As you said, she worked her ass off for years to get where she is now. And it can't be just me who notices, that since her announcement as Momometal, Su and Moa are a lot happier and more energetic on stage again. The other thing is, Su definitely needs some sunscreen on stage now, because of two always smiling sunshines by her side. But on the other hand, poor Su has to deal with hengao, pranks and shenanigans from both sides now 😅
Look at it like this everyone both Yui and Momo is happy right now... Both are very talented... Both has my full respect and i kinda have a feeling that Su and Moa and Yui selected Momo 😊😊😊😊 in my eyes now there are 4 members of baby metal ... Su metal & Moa metal & Yui metal & Momo metal all four has worked hard and deserves the title the #1 band of all time 😊
Great analysis! I agree with your basic conclusion. Also, I believe the way they handled the transformation was very clever. At the April 2nd live concert in Yokohama, they put the legendary BABYMETAL to rest, and brought closure. They used many shots of YUI in their presentation of this legend, showing respect and love. After that, as a reincarnation, they gave birth to a new BABYMETAL, with new members = SU, MOA, MOMO. I feel they tried as hard as they could not to make it seem like YUI was being replaced. I can hardly wait for the Blu-ray to come out. (usually takes several months)
You think the way "they" handled the changes was "clever" ? Just clever???---not secretive,not sly, not manipulative, not SUSPICIOUS ??????????????????
Saya only did the remainder of 2018 after dark Knight carnival she did festivals in Asia Europe and Australia and then went on to do some stuff at a supper club I believe and other things since then non-babymetal related 2019 was the start of the avenger's with Riho Kano Momoko
my thoughts are simply, I don't mind Yui Left to pursue her own goals and i came to terms with that when she did, Momo, taking the third spot after 5 years, and all the effort she put into helping them, is just giving her the role. The only thing I think is rather then removing the Yui skull they could have just added a Momo one instead, with Yui's faded in the back ground. But I'll be happy once i have the new album.
Great video! Very well made and really interesting! I'm a big Yui fan too so I was clinging on to hope right up until the big Momoko reveal on April 1st. Btw you have a new subscriber! Looking forward to many more videos from you! If you've nothing better to do.... my channel contains a modest collection of BABYMETAL related videos which you might be interested in..... :)
BabyMetal ha renacido ahora en 2023, luego del desequilibrio que dejó en la banda 2018. La vida está hecha de etapas, yo festejo que Momoko formé parte de este nuevo camino que emprenden y agradezco a Yui el camino recorrido. Ambas son geniales e inigualables! 🤘🤘🦊🦊🇲🇽🇲🇽
How many bands keep their original members? Metallica? Not all original members. AC/DC? Same. Iron Maiden? GWAR? Sepultura? Queensryche? Stratovarius? Lynyrd Skynyrd? AKB48? Black Veil Brides? Bush? Megadeth? Queen's of the Stone Age? Soul Asylum? Anthrax? Judas Priest? Come on! I can add 100+ names to this list. And, yes. I'm a big Yui-chan fan. However, life is nothing but change. The Earth changes constantly. Tectonic shifting, renaturing following volcanic eruptions, glacial sweeping. Let's appreciate what we have, and celebrate Yui's spirit by welcoming Momoko! 🎉🥷⛩️🏯👘🍜🍱
But also one little detail to notice here is that the fans still ask for former members from some of those bands even after like 20 years or so lol So yeah BM has a long way to go
The evolution of BABYMETAL has been the absolute most exciting event in all of recorded human history. We not only witnessed this but participated as fans & followers. Su is my Goddess Moa & Momo my queen. Thank you, O.
Mixed feelings with the official announcement of the band. However, for the choreographies and dances that characterize the band, 3 are always necessary. I would have wanted the duo to continue because the gap left by Yui is huge, the project started with her and the replacement of an official member always hurts. On the other hand, I don't understand the way the company handles the band. Communication is nil. The official networks of the band (which are managed by the company) do not give much information and the members are not allowed to have them either so the fans know absolutely nothing. Amuse keep us as just filthy consumers. About Yui always a question to the abyss. The reason why she left the band was never really stated, supposedly she had a deadly disease, what disease? In other posts, I read that it was a disease inherited from the family or that she had to take care of her family. I read that another supposed reason was that she suffered from anorexia. However, signing with these companies makes them block your freedom to speak and interact with fans, even the interviews seem like a script... Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Why don't we shoot all the avengers including Saya. Then track Yui down and FORCE her back into the group. The BM girls opinions don't matter anyway. It's what I want. Seriously though: If Suzuku Nakamoto and Moa Kikuchi are happy about Momoko joining them, then who in the Frankenstein's Monster are we to decide if she belongs or not. Get over yourselves. IDZ... quit bullying Momoko.
What are you talking about mate?Where is the bullying about her?BM fans just love Yui...even if She doesn't care too much about it...apparently...put it this way:When Richie Blackmore left Deep Purple then do you think people bullied Steve Morse when they wanted that Richie would come back to Purple?Nonsense...people love their favourite bands and don't want less instead of more...
It's not about bullying poor Momoko. What we need to do is start bullying the corporate lawyers and controllers and manipulators----who seem to have made very sure that we all get NO REAL NEWS about Yui . I find that suspicious as hell !
@@wave8359 man, when an Idol retires, especially when so young, they usually disappear like that. They deal with all kind of fans, their job includes an emotional connection artist-public that some unstable fans may twist. This secrecy is common and has many reasons, including her safety. Neither she nor her parents would want you or me to know what happened to her. As matter of fact, you know how some fans can be really scary. Then no info or no clues for fans, and so she can live a good and safe life.
I think "Believing" describes exactly what happened to the band and how they feel, and the change that Babymetal wants, Su herself has said that she knew the fear of not being the original trio anymore, but that they hope that the fans understand that they want to continue with what they love about Babymetal
11:00 I'm sorry to come here again, but regarding the girls' interviews, everything they say, since the beginning of the group, in any interview, is dictated by Koba. (They even have the famous "only the fox god knows" answer for when they can't answer something, which is super cute). That's the way they do it in Japan, It is what it is. Maybe we, the fans, will never know what the girls really think about anything. Whether they love each other passionately or hate each other fervently, we will probably have to wait 20 years after the group's disbandment to find out. Anything Su said about Yui and her position in the group, was passed on and rehearsed by Koba. I personally think that Moa and Yui were like sisters, but the kind that love each other, not like me who hates mine.
Wow I knew there was hate but this is just outrageous, I never knew babymetal before Yui's departure and I still hope she makes an update on her life but I'm glad Momoko was there to help. After all, we can still see Yui everyone on probably every social media platform, and if I'm not wrong, Yui's vocals are still hearable in some mive songs. Although it's sad she left, we have to move on and hope for the best of Babymetal to come.
A good and nuanced take. I'm very happy with the announcement. Maybe because I was a fan of Sakura Gakuin before Babymetal and I'm used to the graduation system and people leaving that I don't feel super strong about the situation. Though I think the Yokohama concerts in 2019 were a missed opportunity to have a proper Legend Y where we could all say thank you for all of her hard work and a proper farewell to her. The whole situation was handled poorly imo. I saw the new BM in June. I was right in front Momo at the barrier, and it was an awesome night.
I´m gonna give some insight, becouse I think Babymetal handle this in a perfect way and a few fans notice it. I became a Babymetal fan at the end of 2018 so I´ve never seen Yui in a concert, but I love her and her work in Babymetal and Sakura Gakuin. First of all the avenger´s era was not an audition to replace Yui, Su and Moa had a long time of confusion about their future and they endure tons of pain in their loses, in that time the feeling was they lost someone irreplaceable, then pandemic it and they could disband but they keep going, and they grew up even stronger in the comeback, but something was missing, Momoko clear Su and Moa minds and now they are a new Babymetal, stronger than ever. This is something Su and Moa told in an interview for the Hedoban magazine volume 40, I encoradge you and all Babymetal fans to read it, this interviews are gold and the most intimate about them and the band I never read. I´m gonna transcrive some Moa and Su words that are really important to understand the magnitude of this. --Interviewer: It does appear that BABYMETAL overall has become “young and fresh” again, just as MOAMETAL said? --SU-METAL: Well, I don’t think it’s due to youth per se… it’s more that as MOMOMETAL described earlier, “Black” became “Clear”, and those are my thoughts too. We’d been a duo for a long time, but during the live shows, we had been dancing as a three-person group together with the Avengers, so there was a lot of confusion and “what the heck is going on?” during that time, and various opinions about what we were doing. -Interviewer: It was somewhat bewildering. --SU-METAL: Yes. Everyone was confused, and speculation was going wild in all directions. How should I put it… this state of chaos had persisted for about 5 years. But after we finally made the decision to move forward as a new three-person group with the addition of MOMOMETAL, we found a new sense of determination; the determination to say loud and clear that, “This is BABYMETAL moving forward, and if you’re onboard with it, please support us!” Also, as we went through the hiatus/seal, we asked ourselves what it was we really wanted to do. A certain level of confidence was derived from the fact that we’d been doing it for 10 years already. And this confidence in our past experience led to the confidence that we could do it as a new trio as well. So that’s why I feel very refreshed. Of course, there may be the impression that MOMOMETAL is an addition to BABYMETAL, but my feeling is more that we have to start over and rethink what BABYMETAL is from scratch in our heads. It is because of this feeling that I felt we’d gone from “Black” to “Clear”, like a light was illuminating everything. --MOAMETAL: I feel the same. We were all brightened by a new energetic element entering BABYMETAL. When it was just the two of us, I would sometimes overthink things. More than anything else, MOMOMETAL brightens the room. There were times before when I’d worry about rather pointless things, but with MOMOMETAL’s cheerfulness, such things are blown away. So on Day 2 of Pia Arena MM, it wasn’t so much that MOMOMETAL had joined us, but rather that we were “born anew” and had become a “new band”; we felt like "new artists" again. It renewed our spirit. This I think is a confirmation of Babymetal being fine again and makes me so glad and relieved. Also they told they chose the Pia Arena MM and the 1st April becouse is Fox God day, forshadowing MOMOMETAL was the chosen one. You can read the full interview here: stechen.blogspot.com/2023/11/2023hedoban40.html
The second thing I want to say is I don´t feel Babymetal is erasing Yui´s legacy, on the other hand, they did a ceremony to farewell her and the old child and teen Babymetal. They represented old Babymetal in Karate song, dressed in red as teenagers, then they bring Momoko to the spot and play a video including Yui, they thank her for all but they have to move along and I think with Momoko they are unstoppable, maybe we can enjoy 10 more Babymetal years. Finally I´m so glad becouse they are performing a lot of the old songs again like Babymetal Death and iine, and they are plannning to play others as Catch me if you can.
Someone recommended that I watch this because it's close to my opinion on the matter. I agree on many aspects. But there are a few key things where I completely and wholeheartedly disagree. I am sorry, but I will never understand this stance about "respecting Yui". When Michael Jordan briefly retired from Basketball, do you think it pained him to see that people wanted him to come back to basketball? Why do people assume Yui wouldn't appreciate the fact fans, even half a decade later, still want her to come back? Wouldn't it be safer to assume that she would be hurt that people would so easily let go and forget about her? And it's not like fans have any way to directly contact her and nag her about it, right? As you've said, it's not clear what she wants, nobody knows that, apart from those who already know her - and I assume these have faithfully respected whatever decision she has made. When you say "..But would I want her to come back if that's not what she wants?" -> That's the whole point, if she comes back, that meant she wanted it, right? So why are we even asking ourselves that question??? I don't think ANYBODY who is a genuine Yui fan, would ever have the intention to pull her back by force IF they KNEW she doesn't want to come back. That is just a fallacy argument at best there. But other than that, I feel the same as you on most things. I do not feel any resentment toward Momoko. I do however feel a LOT of resentment toward team BM and their management and their communication to the fans. I feel properly disgusted that they removed Yui's skull and even more disgusted that they removed Yui from their biography (go check BABYMETAL's channel BIO description. They have properly ERASED Yui from there - as if she had never existed).
As I understand it, we still agree on the whole "Respecting Yui" topic. Obviously if she came back and stayed, no one would doubt it was because she wanted to. However, it became clear that she, indeed, didn't want to come back. The disrespect begins when even after seeing that, fans are still demanding her return. Even after 5 years of scary silence, and even after Momoko was confirmed, people are still throwing Yui's name as the only right choice. Sometimes I wonder if the reason Yui has taken so long to show herself in any way is because her name is so tightly tied to BABYMETAL, making her unable to detach from it and actually persue her own thing. Just imagine if she comes back to the industry and the only thing people have to say about her is "hey what about BABYMETAL?". As if she couldn't be good enough as herself, just like Su and Moa believed at some point that BM was over without Yui, which (breaking news) wasn't the case. As long as we don't know what her goals are, it's still disrespectful to demand anything out of her. Don't know if you still disagree with that, but this was my point in the video
It's called an obsession. Parasocial infatuation is the level that most superfans stay at. But a lot of you broke level cap & now here we are in 2023 😬Fans wanting her back may very well have been a flattering thought to YUI for a while after she left. But when she sees the same shit I see way too many fans posting day in & day out for the last 5 years, that same thought that used to flatter her, now likely only makes her skin crawl.
@@omajination But people have the right to prefer Yui over Momoko, don't they? As long as nobody is being needy and agressive about it, I don't see a reason why anybody could not declare that they prefer the era when Yui was in. People should not force others to feel the same way about this - that goes both ways. And again, nobody is "demanding" anything from Yui. Unless some creepers manage to knock on her doorstep and annoy her in real life, commenting that you would want her to come back on a random fan-made page somewhere on the internet does not sound disrespectful to me. Edit: and I agree with your bit about Yui's name being always attached to BABYMETAL. But that is something very common with many different actors, musicians, artists in general. In general, I'd say she's rather safe in Japan and I believe fans would encourage her on her solo career should she decide to have one.
@@Chadw1cKed There are plenty of things people say that would make any girl from the band (past or present)'s skins crawl man. That's just the way things go. You can't identify a few rotten apples and generalize a whole group of people. Most of the people I've seen from Yui groups have been very respectful, have congratulated Momoko, and announced that they are ready to let go. There are cringe comments and cringe people everywhere, including with fans that are happy Yui is gone... If you want to think Yui hates the fact there are still fan groups out there, fine by me, but do not force me to think that as well.
@@Zedem0n I think you may have taken my above statement with a bit too big of a sweep. I wasn't painting the entire group with that brush. Only the extreme cases. Which with social media being as accessible and as wide reaching as it is, I will say, I've been seeing a lot more of these extremes. Both in frequency & quantity. Especially lately. But I know it's because of recent events. But to the point I was going to make. Referring to that last thing you said. It's not that I want to think that. Nor do I want to force that thought onto anyone else. I was simply making a harsh counter-hypothetical to the speculation in the original comment. In the end, that's all any of us are doing. Speculating. Anyway, I don't want to shit on anyone's day. Wish everyone the best.🤘🏻
Just a couple of things. When musclemetal appeared in 2018, fans were still expecting Yui to return. When Amuse confirmed Yui was still a member, fans chilled out a bit. Fans were not looking forward to the Chosen Seven, since most would only accept the triangle formation. The Chosen Seven actually did five shows and fan response was not favorable. The shows that Saya performed with them in late 2018 was a return to the triangle formation and fans were thrilled. There actually were many people who wanted Saya to become the new member then. You have to realize that the interviews with Su and Moa where they announced they were a duo was more to explain the Avengers, who hadn't appeared on stage with them yet. There were many people who thought the Avengers were competing for that open position and it may look like that in retrospect but I don't think so. My theory was that there were three Avengers because it was too much to ask from just one. Eventually, Momoko got enough experience to where she could handle all the shows herself. I guess we'll never know when they made the decision to make Momoko a permanent member. She did that audition during the sealed period and apparently, they weren't ready to lock her down at that point. She certainly has earned her spot in Babymetal. It really wasn't that unreasonable to wonder if Yui wasn't coming back. You could imagine she may have been going to school and they were holding her position open until she finished. She was still under contract at Amuse and her position was still open. That sealed period would have allowed her time to get back in shape. So, in that scenario, Yui wouldn't be coming back under duress. Thankfully, the position is filled now and all the speculation is over, at least on that subject. It's time to celebrate Momometal now. It's really sad that much of the conversation recently has focused on Yui instead of Momoko, where it belongs.
18:27 Here I was about to dissolve into tears... 😭 The problem has never been Yui, may the Fox God grant her every wish, even the smallest, but her fans: in addition to being intrusive and inappropriate, they disrespect Yui first, then Momoko and ultimately all the Babymetal!!!
I found BM in 2014 when most people did but I never kept up with them and never got invested. Around 2020 that changed for me and I fell in love with the band, but at this point, Yui had already been gone for 2 years. So I was never as attached to Yui as everyone else. I appreciate her commitment to the band while she was involved and I enjoy the work she's done, but I didn't have that gut punch feeling that older BM fans felt. I know BM with the Avengers and I'm more attached to them as the duo rather than the trio. I've also seen Momoko's face in videos more than Yui's. From what I've seen, I firmly believed that if anyone deserved the spot, It's Momoko. I don't think it's disrespectful to Yui or anything. Yui made her choice, she left. She wasn't fired or kicked out, she left. It's disrespectful to hold her against her will to satisfy your idea of what BM was. I don't think it occurs to those fans that maybe, just maybe, they might grow to like Momoko, or even just enjoy her contribution to the band in the future. Let BM grow and do what they want to do.
It is nothing to do with Momoko---no one dislikes her, or has any reason to. It is about the disappearance of Yui, the arrogant secrecy shown by the Amuse Corporation, and the absence of any real, detailed, proven facts----whether concerning the gutarist's death or Yui's subsequent disappearance. We deserve REAL answers, The Amuse Corporation is NOT above the law !
@@wave8359 Have you considered that it is none of your business and she doesn't have to explain anything? The letter saying she left because of medical reasons was a courtesy to the fans, that's all. Accept what you got and move on, it's been half a decade.
@@wave8359 Yui doesn't own anyone any explanation. No you don't deserve anything. You are not above Yui's individual rights. If choose to leave that her prerogative. If she wanted to share something with her fans, she would have already. You understand this right?? Tell me you're not clueless??
This is Japan, not the share your life with everybody west. Yui left a message explaining her decision to leave , and that's that. Don't like it ? Tough. They still respect privacy in Japan, so live with it. There's a lot of growing for a lot of fans that needs to happen. Just enjoy their music, old and new, and enjoy their future evolution , as I'm sure there'll be much more to confuse us in the future. 🦊🦊💥🦊🦊
was those people who left the BABYMETAL phantom all because of yui not return. we have to take a note these girls mourn for five years as a duo, not only for yui but for their guitarist who passed. That’s two losses in one year. And you still have to travel the world and continue the show. They even came up with the avengers system. I guess it’s way it’s not full replacement member, but when it was time to move on, it was time move on. And plus a good note is that they could have put Momo in the same pigtail style as Yui but they didn’t. They put in her own style, her own identity. yes, she placed Yui in the set but the same time now she’s not trying to become Yui. She’s making her Legacy her own legend.
Yui was really special girl...with all her shy and sleepy mood, smile and that every look was so special. irreplaceable person. I visit BM soon in Madrid...will see how will it be without Tomato princes
Su and Moa never said they would never be a trio again. All they said was they decided to continue as a duo in 2018 instead of disbanding Babymetal totally. When they said Yui is irreplaceable in sure that meant there will never be another Yuimetal. Not that another girl couldnt occupy her spot. If anything i think it was an insult to Yui to not find an official third member sooner. It suggested her position wasn't important enough to bother with. They could just throw some random dancers in there and call it good. I'm sure they didn't mean it that way though. They had to find someone with the right chemistry.
While I understand your point, I would say it's the other way around (maybe it's both, which makes it hard), if they immediately replaced her that would mean it send a message she could easily be replaced. It turns out, after trying many years, they tried out of respect to not replace her. And after being a real duo, they could add a member without replacing Yuimetal because the 3 formation is important, but also the 2 voices singing together, Moametal and an other member.
I think babymetal was giving Yui a chance to return if she wanted to. After the budokan performances they went on haitus for a year, and that's when they started to think about how to go from there. They can't just go the rest of babymetal career rotating backing dancers in Yui's spot, because it soon become awkward with people wanting the avengers to be micced, and babymetal just works better as a trio, as that was the initial idea. In the hiatus they probably asked Yui if she wanted to return to babymetal, and we can conclude that yui did not want to come back, maybe because she enjoys life as a non celebrity, maybe her health issues are still stopping her, who knows. But, the reason Amuse didn't want to add someone new in straight away is because is would be an insult to the fans of babymetal, replacing yui when her departure is still a fresh wound, and eliminating her chance of returning once she got better. Sooner or later, a third member, weather Yui or not, would of had to be introduced as a permanent member, and babymetal just took the chance of this album to fo that, and to take a different path and see how it goes. Momoko was probably the best candidate to take her position up, as she's familiar with the dance and lyrics, performed with babymetal the most out of the three avengers, and earned THE ONE'S respect, too the point where most were calling on amuse to mic her and make her a permanent member.
@@autohmae To be honest, I don't think Yui cares if they replaced her or not and I don't think any of them care that much about how the fans feel about it. If they did they would have given more detail about what happened to Yui in the first place. It's a small minority of fans that are bothered by it in the first place. I'm not sure why they took so long to take on a new member but maybe they just wanted to start a the new era with her?..
@@jeffschreifels8651 Babymetal has said in a recent interview, we are going to do something new, I hope you (the reader/fans) follow. Using Road of Resistance in the way they did in the recent show to basically say they are creating a new unpaved path from their previous unpaved path of the Metal Resistance. These are all signs they aren't making a break with the past but are doing something new. Honestly as I mentioned somewhere else, I think maybe Yui cared more about Sakura Gakuin having to be shutdown than everything related to her and Babymetal. Yui, I feel, tried to come back for roughly a year and could not, so then made her decision, Babymetal left a place for her to come back during that time and then tried to move on as a duo, closed their 10 years and took their long planned break (maybe even planned before Yui left) and re-evaluated on what best to do for their next chapter in their existence. The conclusion was probably already the logical step, but made the final decision after the break and now they are back 3 ladies strong. Yui probably has very fond memories of being in Babymetal and just wants Babymetal to succeed in whatever way they see best. She is probably happy with them choosing a former SG member. She might even think it's it's almost foreshadowing how they both wore the yellow ribbon in Mini-Pati.
yeah this is exactly my point. Also idk if people have even considered that after performing so much with momoko they probably felt she was fitting to be a full member, they definitely seem to enjoy each others' company and momoko also seems to enjoy performing the songs a lot so it just feels like natural progression at this point. I don't think they initially planned to have a 3rd member again when they decided to go on as a duo after yui left, but after being together everything just fell into place.
Finally someone gives credit to Saya Hirai 😊 Girl is a sweetheart and IMHO would have been a fantastic Avenger had she not decided two months earlier to join Torahime-Ichiza (which unfortunately shut down later that year). Bad timing screwed her over. She still dances and sometimes gets to act in plays. And yes, she is happy for Momoko.
I'm a new fan that I had the privilege of seen Babymetal in the two Brazil concerts. So when I became a fan, Momoko was already an official member and I am really happy with this choice. But I'm curious, is this mixed feeling about Momo still there or you are really happy now?
I have said something's about Yui fans as it's a frustrating minefield, like you said she made an official statement that she left and to me that was the end. Like it or not shes no longer part of Babymetal it's up to her now to say what she's up to next and has nothing to do with Babymetal. Anyone who is a Babymetal fan hopes that she is happy and well and doing what she wants to be doing. I'm sure she would be happy that the person who took over her Minipattie role is also the one to help Babymetal continue their journey. They kept the Babymetal members in the SG family and I hope Yui can worry less and focus on what she has planned. This was a good video.
I know we are fans and I kinda understand the drama. But we need to respect Yui and her decisions. So, congratulations to Momoko Okazaki on becoming an official member of BABYMETAL. Welcome MOMOMETAL! And thank you Yui Mizuno for all you gave to us. You will always have a special place in our hearts. 🤘🦊
Unfortunately a small portion of the fan base is toxic yet they're the loudest. That's my main issue with idol culture. It makes the fans too attached and since Yui hasn't given any life signs it has unintentionally created a cult around her
@@wave8359 no man, if you do not know anything about Yui now is probably because HER do not want to. Or you think she is kinda a slave, and the rest of babymetal is ok with it? that is creepy.
I think that the cult that you mentioned is provocated by the Amuse Company because the incomplete and sincere communication with the fans. The girls don't have permission to have personal social media accounts, I think the reason is clauses contract. We dont know nothing about their life's, so everything is a mysterious. Even the online newspaper or magazines dedicated to the "idols" know the reality about Yui.
@@anto-metal ----the point is: We Do NOT know!.....and we should. Not out of nosiness.Out of loyalty and conscience.---AND from resentment of corporate arrogance in keeping us away from any updates.
Thank you! Thank you very much! I especially wanted to hear your comments and your vision of situation. What about me - I'm very unhappy and devastated 😢. The worst thing they did - destroyed old logo! Why? And performed BMD with Momo.. And all hopes to see Yui are gone..💔 So I need time to get used to it.. Sorry..😓 Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts!
Youre a fine thinker!! I discovered babymetal for myself in 2012 and like most older metal heads. I was like no. Then 2 months ago, i watched the Sonisphere performances and fell hard. Then went down the worrmhole. My concern is the same as you now with Yui. I just hope she is ok!! I dont like all the secrecy about and the guitarist. He fell from an observation deck, and thats it. No actual location of where. And Yui...seeing the over the future audtion with Moa, there so damn cute. I just want to protect them type of stuff. Cuz they were trie kids. And Japanese gets a little creepy, but minus all that, the Kame band was metal, period. But hearing and seeing them live, which is how i judge a good band, boom!!! Wow. I accept the change too Momo and their direction as a band, and love Divine Attack amd Mirror mirror. So i accept there new music. Anyways, u make intelligent points and i appreciate it. I want there management too be a little more transparent. Since they were kids when they started. Period. I just hope Yui is good. Thats it. And your point saying if this was Yuis choice too leave, why try too force her too be in it. Her happiness matters above all. Smart person you are! Keeo making the videos please. And u hope Suqueen and Moa bad ass, get too meet u one day. Sincerely
I think whole choosen 7 and those Avengers are part of their project to find a proper 3rd member - maybe the choosen 7 was a part of their lore plan from long time before (like how they planned their hiatus covid just make it happen sooner), to bring a more mature look to Babymetal as they grew up. but just had to adjust since Yui had to leave - but the Avengers project definitely have multiple purposes - like choosing acceptable candidates for 3rd place, also keep BM going as duo while maintain trio performance, also to see how fans react over years,...etc... and Momoko earned it in the end
I find it very sad that people are so detached from reality that this is something they worry about, I myself am a super fan of Babymetal and have been for years now but I still understand what Babymetal is. As with all professional musicians it is a job, yes they may love what they do and it is their passion, but no musician turns up to a gig and does not expect to be paid it is the simple reality of the system we live in, so from the point of view of the people involved it is a business decision, nothing more. Each of these girls while being under the overall management of Amuse also would have their own personal agents that handle contract negotiations on their behalf, and this decision would have been made in the board room. My guess is contracts were up for renewal at the end of the financial year 31st March and Momoko did not want to sign a new contract that had her at any less than a full member as she had her future to look out for. Amuse probably decided it was in their interest to give her this rather than lose her and add even more chaos at a time when the band was fragile after the forced hiatus due to the pandemic and all parties decided this was the best option going forward for everyone. A side effect of this might be that Yui is now free to pursue her own career if that was in fact preventing her from doing so. My own personal belief is she just does not want to be involved in the industry anymore or she would have returned years ago, it is a tough life being involved in a touring band with a lot of life sacrifices being necessary and it is not for everyone
Su actually stated that she took a break from music. If you want any proof, I'll send you a video of someone explaining what happened as they read an article about it.
If I wonder about the contract of Su and Moa and Babymetal in general, is that they have the same rights and weight of words that the great of their team, and more important, they have the more important decision if they want to continue or not, according to Su in the PMC interview of this year, they had planned many years ago to make that hiatus after those 10 years and think about what would happen later, so I think the hiatus is planned not for Amuse, maybe for Babymetal’s team. So in part, I'm happy that if Su and Moa renewed their contract and keep going, is because they wanted to, so I think that is the more important to keep in mind.
5:07 The microphone thing is quite simple to understand, habit, the people responsible for preparing the costumes and "dressing" the girls put the microphone together as they always did before without even realizing it. It was between 2016 and 2017 that I first came into contact with Babymetal. So I've been following the group since Yui's time. In my headcanon, Babymetal has always been 4 girls singing and dancing. Just as I would give one of my bad fingers to see her back, even if it was just for a song, I can't imagine the group without Momo.
Personally, I would have liked the group to continue as a duo, however I don't dislike the incorporation of momometal, it just feels weird, I guess it's just the beginning. In the same way, I will continue to enjoy the music that you continue to make, thanks for this video and for the others, I like how you talk about babymetal and how you compile videos of them. greetings from Argentina. see youu🤘
Yui Mizuno aka Yuimetal will be forever the original Trio of Babymetal. Momoko Okazaki aka Momometal will be able to replace Yuimetal but will be on her style and characteristics. Don't ever compare because they have different personalities. Life has to move on. Babymetal is still Babymetal but now they are more mature and more accomplished. Babymetal is still a novelty act and unique in their way. Kitsune Up 🦊🦊🦊🤘🤘🤘🇯🇵🇸🇬#notacult.
Contractual obligations. Simple as that. When did Yui's contract with Babymetal run out? When was Momo's contract with SG over? Legal hassles, wouldn't be the first Japanese band where that happened, won't be the last. Avenger's can't sing onstage? Yui's vocals can't be played? Contracts. Lawyers do not belong in rock. I'll beat a bowl Yui's pursuing her education or something and getting away from the shitshow of showbiz for a while, the way Riho did. That's cool, we'll wait. The Angel of Joy is here and that's very cool as well.
@@autohmae There are contracts within Amuse: different divisions, different management, different labels etc. Read about the hassles Perfume went thru in 2011 to set up International distribution. IMO: why didn't they let the Avengers/Dark Side/Chosen Seven sing? BM contractually stipulated that the only singing voices be the original 3 until the contract ran out. Exact same thing happened with AKB47 members etc. Fine print probably stated "sing" which let to the Avengers speaking on IDZ at MG MM20, and Momo at 10 Budakon for IDZ and FDTD. Remember, this isn't 3 ladies getting together in a garage: this is the nightmare of the "entertainment industry." Again, reference Iggy Pop, he's got stories...
In the idol industry, yeah. However, BABYMETAL isn't fully an idol industry, their management is a mix and they intend to keep the originals as long as possible. Otherwise Su and Moa would've "graduated" a long time ago and passed it on to a BABYMETAL 2.0
Their manager is an old school metalhead. He deals with bands, not idols. He was in a weird spot, like an infiltrator, when he managed to create Babymetal.
@@omajination ...yes, you are right in saying that this is about something else.. But you fail to pin-point that something else as :---corporate secrecy, absence of real news, A possible cover-up?.....of something !
I think that's not the Reason. Momoko not only was at Sakura Gakuin but also at the Hiroshima Actors School. There was some matching Chemistry involved.
@@omajination Riho also shared a regular school with Suzuka at one point. They were in different Homerooms. I don't know when, or if they knew each other. If they were in ASH at that time they did.
@@wave8359 we Asian bonding ..i guess. i also previously managed a local artiste group. also Yui like to space out during long interview..she was not there, u already can see Su and Moa getting closer...
@@gtmg22b2 ohh I can understand and realize that after read your comment now. I see she wasnt there when in interviews, she were like not talking or "vibing" and I see her mind went disconnected during interview then suddenly "connected" when the interviewer pointed a question on her.
I think the first point that we all have to keep in mind is ... Yui left BABYMETAL and it must have been a dreadful choice to do, thus it should be respected. That means no more YUIMETAL, though yeah, we still got tons of stuff with her, it's not like she's going to be canceled. From this perspective, what could have been the right choice? I think they tried their best keeping somehow YUIMETAL part of the group nonetheless, respecting her contribute to their successful career. But MOA was clearly suffering her new position. Yes, she's the main dancer, but she doesn't have Black Babymetal anymore, and her doing all the choruses alone, well that was odd, so a third member doesn't take anything away from her role, it actually helps putting her more under the spotlight. And Momoko totally deserves being the third one, her commitment is total. The only painful thing to me, is the new logo, yes, it's cool, it's nice, but it's also the final cut. 🤘🦊⚡
I've decided to stop following New BABYMETAL. I'm just turned off by the way they do things and play with our emotions. I thank them for 6 great years (for me) And wish them (the members) the best. They introduced me to Japan and it's music, so there's plenty to occupy my time. I didn't actually expect YUI to return. I don't think she'll ever be able to perform at that level again. I like Momoko. It seems that Amuse has been trying to make the members less important since YUI'S departure and they've finally succeeded. BABYMETAL is now bigger than it's members. They've slowly taken the members personalities out, which was a big draw for me. Now they have a system to replace the members with someone new given equal standing. The worst thing to me is the new generic corporate logo. Not only did they take out YUI'S skull. They took out Moa's hearts. Making her even less important. I don't feel we have the right for information about YUI. But we do have the right to express our love and support for her. It shows that she still has a ready fan base in case she ever performs again. When Momoko Tsugunaga, the best idol that ever was, retired. Fans were asked- if you see her don't talk to her and don't tell anyone. That request has been honored. No one has ever said anything. It's a Japanese thing and I respect it.
Actually, the biggest missing part was the vocals, Babymetal was limited in the kind of songs they could make and older songs live sounded like something was missing, and well, really their was something missing. Which is the harmony of Moametal with an other member.
Yes there was. Admit it. Babymetal still has a long career ahead of them, and they can't just rotate people in yui position forever. Yui probably said herself she didn't want to come back, and therefore they took that as a chance to go on a new path.
Yui dedicatedly spent her youth for fans. almost famous idols retired within 5-10 years. yeah that’s enough. there is a graduation(retire) of till than their 9th grade in Sakura Gakuin system, and it's very good thing for kids. Yeah, so I've said that's fishy what around 18yo girl aims an idol at the past. LOL. Thank you always! .・🌸 btw When do Scandal, Perfume, Band-maid marry?? they are very devoted right! I've even never see photo of her BF.
Yeah...BM is a good rock band right now...before that BM was an ART...the vibe is gone...low energy dancing...badly overmixed electronic effects...like an Eurovision song contest participant...the new album has nothing to do with metal...the previous BM was much much better...Momoko is good...rather the music concept is bad...
The Other ONE is a unique album, indeed they choose to blackened their logo on it's cover, that's pretty explicit. It's an experiment, a very successful one IMHO, but I understand as they do, that it could not be the favorite cup of tea for many of their fans. And yes, it's not a metal album, the songs that belong to the genre are indeed only a few as most are prog rock and a couple are more into the dance space. I think the only thing that will remain of this experience, is the shift from power metal to metalcore, that's going to stay, but shredding will not fade away, I mean, see what they did in METALIZM! 🤘🦊⚡️
@@Hgoenge81 Divine Attack, Mirror Mirror, MAYA and Believing are metal, of course mixed with other genres, that's what BM always do. Metal Kingdom, Time Wave, Monochrome, Light & Darkness and Legend are mainly rock, with different mixes of hard and prog rock, dance, trance EDM. METALIZM is ... OTFGK and I love it! 🤘🦊⚡
Well, they say : Yuimetal has left her place because of ???.... I guess this is not the truth. Yui disappeared completly! Why is there no lifesign from her? No picture, no message from her? No "hello, I'm okay"......! Is Yui still alive? Nobody has seen her anymore. Mikio died and Yui left Babymetal suddenly and disappeared in the metalspace forever? Something is rotten in the Babymetal-World. What goes on? What about her solo career? Lol, they will say ONLY THE FOXGOD KNOWS.... RIP Mikio RIP YUI
@@autohmae lol, this could be a desinformation. Unrealistic! Classmates don't post any photo? Made in secret? I am still waiting for the "hello, its me, yui(-metal)...."
@HARJEN-we4gg privacy is a very important thing in Japan. Yui might not ofwqnted photos spread of her, and if the rumor is true, then I'm happy her privacy is being respected.
maybe she just doesn't care anymore, maybe she got tired of these weird people. she has no obligation to be on social media just to satisfy your curiosity.
@@HARJEN-we4gg you have to remember in Japan is a different culture. So people do not do such things, privacy actually still exists, even in the public space you don't take photos of people and share them. Also an other important one: people don't usually talk about medical issues, they are private.
It's okay to disagree, but the hate speech against other people in the comments is starting to get out of hand, specially against Yui fans. Generalizing is never okay.
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Thank you for your positive comments.
From early on, BABYMETAL had a goal of going at it for ten years.
In an interview, SU and MOA reflects on 2018 (when YUI left) they had a moment of weakness, but both strongly agreed to make it to the 10 year goal line.
BABYMETAL started 2010.10, so their goal was to have a 10 year event(or announcement) on 2020.10.10.
But the pandemic threw a monkey wrench into their plans, so they had the event spread over 10 live concerts in 2021, and on 2021.10.10 (exactly one year after their original plan) put out their TH-cam video "The One - Stairway to Living Legend". It is most likely (though I have no confirmation on this) that the video was taken around the time of the 10 BABYMETAL concerts @ Budokan (stage settings are so similar)
So when we take the above into consideration, we can understand why they did not come up with a "replacement" for YUI's position for the last couple of years. Also I feel that the three stars that went flying into space in "Stairway to Living Legend" represented the original three, and the way they brought closure to the original BABYMETAL at their April concert makes sense.
wait a minute... there is a Brazilian accent there, am I right?
@@andrerelax5582she is italian, I guess. There's a video with her and her grandpa on the channel.
Yeah, Ijime Dame Zettai 🦊
Hate speech doesn't exist, but ok with the decision.
Fantastic perspective. Wish more people would take into consideration the artist's feelings towards the entire situation. Surely Momoko knows there are diehard Yui fans out there and she isn't trying to be her replacement. Rather, be a new piece to the evolution of the group. She has earned her place and hope they have a successful journey forward!
First of all...love your videos. They really show your passion for BABYMETAL. I'm an older guy who found my love of rock music at 18, in 1975, when I attended a concert in a small venue for a new band on the scene called KISS. To me, this is what Rock & Roll was supposed to be, loud, rebellious and way over the top. I fanboyed out big time until they released, "Rock and Rollover". After that they had member problems and they went out of favor with me. A year ago I discovered Babymetal, and that passion to Rock & Roll came flooding back! The way I see it. If Yui wanted back in to Babymetal, she would be back in Babymetal...PERIOD! These girls are no longer 14 and 16 year old girls. They've grown and matured into a new Babymetal, that is on a path to more success than they had when they were younger. Momoko has more than earned the spot to be part of that success. Dedication and hard work is what is needed to exceed, and she has proved she's up to that task. I REALLY look forward to what this new era in Babymetal is going to be.
I congratulate you for not keeping those feelings and sharing them with others, there are many people who may feel the same as you and your words are useful to them :)
May the fox god bless you💕People like you are the ones that are needed in the community
And thanks for your videos, I like them a lot
Good explanation of your feelings. Many great points and thoughts. Definitely agree, and I'm sure many people do, with alot of what you are trying to get across 🍅🤘🦊
I used to dream Koba-metal holding a special concert featuring Yui-metal where she can finally have a closure to her saga while the lore of Momo-metal starts. It would have been the most bittersweet show to remember.
the problem for yui's fans is that they refused to mourn her departure, now they are faced with the reality that babymetal must move on, even babymetal itself kept their hopes up by not replacing her for 5 years, it's hard but yui made the decision to leave😢
I agree and also I bealive the band and all that involves Babymetal mourn her departure for 5yrs and now they are ready to move on start a new chapter.
It would have been easier if Yui had restarted her career in entertainment outside of Babymetal. But I guess is she was/is still in school and wanted to focus on that.
I can't speak for every Yui fan out there. But as an ultimate Yui fan myself, the reason why it's been so hard for me to let go is because for a whole 5 years, there hasn't been a single appearance nor proper health update on her. The only thing we had left from her were her BABYMETAL days and an indefinite "see you later". So inevitably, we can only come back to the old content she was in.
If we had known her hiding mode would take so long from the start, I think we would've managed to cope with it better. But now, we don't even know if she's ever gonna show any life signs again, which only makes it harder to assimilate. It's the lack of closure and our hopes being crushed that makes it painful (at least for me).
@@omajination and fully understandable ! And we all want to support her in everything she does. I just hope it's soon. I can't think of never yet.
@@omajination unfortunately it is the iron protection of the private life of the Japanese, as much as we would like to know if she is okay or what is in her life, we will not know unless she decides to appear, I doubt it, nothing can be done, I always think so How can it be that not a single photo of her appears or someone saying that they saw her and that she's fine. In Japan when they make the decision to "disappear" it's serious 😪😪
I'm a big Yui fan from 2013. I love Yui, I miss Yui, she was my favorite; I am very glad Momoko is Momometal.
Everytime I see Babymetal I will miss Yui, she lit the stage up everytime I saw her perform. But Momo is pretty great too. I've only seen Momo twice but she deserves it if anyone does.
Good rant. We needed a third member. The universe is in balance again. I was a Momoko fan from day one so I am biased, but whoever it was going to be. We needed it. Frickin' Iine is back you guys! This is the way.
I think babymetal was giving Yui a chance to return if she wanted to. After the budokan performances they went on haitus for a year, and that's when they started to think about how to go from there. They can't just go the rest of babymetal career rotating backing dancers in Yui's spot, because it soon become awkward with people wanting the avengers to be micced, and babymetal just works better as a trio, as that was the initial idea. In the hiatus they probably asked Yui if she wanted to return to babymetal, and we can conclude that yui did not want to come back, maybe because she enjoys life as a non celebrity, maybe her health issues are still stopping her, who knows. But, the reason Amuse didn't want to add someone new in straight away is because is would be an insult to the fans of babymetal, replacing yui when her departure is still a fresh wound, and eliminating her chance of returning once she got better. Sooner or later, a third member, weather Yui or not, would of had to be introduced as a permanent member, and babymetal just took the chance of this album to fo that, and to take a different path and see how it goes.
Momoko was probably the best candidate to take her position up, as she's familiar with the dance and lyrics, performed with babymetal the most out of the three avengers, and earned THE ONE'S respect, too the point where most were calling on amuse to mic her and make her a permanent member.
Yes, I fully agree with this. I'd also like to add that Su and Moa has been clear about the fact that they still talk to Yui. It seems likely that there's been an ongoing conversation about this the whole time. That she disappeared from the public eye doesn't mean she's not present in their life. People sometimes act like she's in a coma or went to outer space.
welcome momometal but yuimetal still in our heart
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!Maybe you don't know it, but I started trying to make videos because I watched your videos!! I've been a BABYMETAL fan for a short time,But I tried my best to complete the relevant knowledge/story/setting, As you say ,for New begin of Babymetal, I'm so proud of MOMO-METAL become offical member!,But I'm also sad that the story of YUI in my heart is over,But I definitely will suport Yui whatever she want to do. Babymetal made a good decisions were made which allowed them to continue to grow and move forward,I'm sory about my poor English Thank you for explaining BABYMETAL to new fans
You're so sweet! Thanks for the support. I'll be looking forward to your videos ✨
IM SO GLAD TO SEE A NEW VIDEO FROM YOU AND OMG YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS REALLY ENTERTAINING AND INFORMATIVE I LOVE THEM!!
I am pretty sure Yui has an NDA that was signed to not give any details about her time with Babymetal... Koba has always been about lore with babymetal. Do you notice that every interview they give is in there stage outfits... When Electric Callboy did their Behind the scenes video for Ratatata, The girls were not shown that much. and when they were, it was in costume... but they were never shown having fun or goofing off.
I am pretty sure Yui is fine and still is on the Amuse Payroll. not for her silence... but for her contribution.
As Far as Momoko, I think she added something special to Babymetal. She is super funny... very Talented and of course, Gorgeous!
Sometimes you have to just sit back and enjoy... and be thankful we have BabyMetal.
i lived in japan and worked in a little cafe my ex wife used to own for a few years, had babymetal just casually come in one day, and the funniest thing was, they spent the entire time talking about my height, for context im 7'7" and my ex wife (was still married at the time) was 4'7" it was so funny to hear them asking themselves things about being tall, then after about 5 minutes su asked me about my height and we had a 30 minute chat about it, they were shocked to find that i refuse to let anyone call me by my surname, i said "doesnt matter who you are, friends, family or some homeless guy in an alley, you call me big frank and thats that, wont let anyone say otherwise" i told them about my twin sister who is 6'6" about how everyone else from my family is no taller than 5'2" including my father, and after the chat, they paid, said thank you, posed for a polaroid photo with me and just went off with there manager and later that day they announced yui would be leaving, i still have that polaroid, its on my current workplaces wall
Yui was there too ? I would love to see this polaroid
@@piogg2398 i see it every day at my work, i now run an agricultural garage, i specialise in restoration and repairs of vintage and antique tractors, the polaroid was taken in a novel way, babymetal are framed perfectly, which cuts off the top third of me, its cute and comical, had my photo done with a few other musicians in that cafe, since it was across the road from a recording studio. im still on good terms with my ex wife who still runs the cafe (weirdly every japanese ex of mine im still close friends with) she says that babymetal had been a few times since i left japan, and were sad that id left
What a story!
I've always liked you videos specially your humor..Great to see the person behind Omajination, a passionate fan and also kawaii.
Thank you so much! ☺️
Well said !!
I know that maybe those things that Moa and Su said about Yui are completely against what is happening right now, but is possible that they didn’t have more options anymore. The sedition to continue as a duo sounds good in the Metal Galaxy era, but Kano and Riho left the Avengers to make their projects, so Momoko was the only girl who steels supporting Babymetal, so maybe announcing Babymetal and just one Avenger is a little bit weird, is like why Momoko is still calling Avenger if is just one? Is possible that makes it harder for Su and Moa still be like a duo. So probably that's the reason why they decided to call Momoko a new member. As you said, it passed more than 5 years and the only way to keep going is with that decision, because the dance is for 3 people.
So I think the things that Su and Moa said about Yui are totally genuine and they never were disrespectful to her, but after many years, became more and more difficult to keep that duo format.
Also I don't think they planned to have a third member again when they went on as a duo, but after performing with momoko so much it was just a natural progression. Just look at any of their performances before the hiatus and they're all enjoying being together so much. I've always thought she was the most compatible of the avengers.
Great video. I'm a Yui fan too but also a BABYMETAL fan. I feel the same as you happy that Momoko is the new member with a mic but sad that Yui is not back although I always knew she was never coming back. They would have added a third member earlier if it hadn't been for covid and knowing how Koba likes his LORE they could only do it now.
Anyway I'm here to continue the journey with (the new) BABYMETAL
KITSUNE UP
🤘🦊🤘
I very much feel they didn't add a new member out of respect for Yuimetal, not because of covid or lore. Covid only messed up the 10 year celebration, which would always have come before any decision was made on how to move on. Close the Yuimetal chapters first, by celebrating the 10 years.
@@autohmae OTFGK 🤘🦊🤘
🤣 As much as I love the name, I’m kinda with you there for Time Wave (compared to the rest of the album)
Que buen video, es de mucha ayuda para aclarar la confusión y gracias por compartirnos tus sentimientos. Estoy muy de acuerdo contigo, no podría agregar más. Solo quiero que exista respeto por parte del fandom para ambas, Momoko y Yui. Te mando un abracito, jamás vamos a olvidar a Yui. 🍅🖤
Unfortunately I never met Babymetal with Yui, but only with Momoko (guiltily late), but I have always had the utmost admiration for Yuimetal, even though I love Momometal madly!!!🦊❤️🦊
unfortunately it's a hard thing for fans to accept when a long time member or a fan favourite member of a band leaves, a similar thing occurred not long ago in one of my other favourites fear factory where the singer of 31 years and the only consistent member of the band left, and it was hard for me and for other fans to accept. But the thing is some people just want change in their life and there is unfortunately nothing us fans can do about it...
Always great to talk about things when people need it.
5:02 Yuimetal and Moametal were meant to be twins visually. So they continued with that theme, that's all it was.
Nobody in Babymetal is betraying Yui(metal), Babymetal for years tried the duo with a dancer and it just doesn't work as well, that they've done that for many years shows how much they respect Yui.
If they had immediately or shortly after replaced her, THAT would be disrespectful and betrayal. Babymetal just works better with
We don't know the whole story, but however we think about it: 10 years was specifically chosen, maybe even before Yuimetal left, to be the moment for a break and to rethink of what Babymetal should be. And it turns out to be a good time to close the Yuimetal chapter.
We can both love the tomato and the peach. That's totally fine. I personally think Yui is probably happy that it's a Sakura Gakuin member, her love for SG is immense.
My thinking is: she is probably more sad about Sakura Gakuin having been shut down than her leaving Babymetal, if that makes sense. And I hope she got a satisfying answer from other people inside of Amuse on why it needed to be.
Exactly and Amuse prolly got yui's blessing before carrying on with a new memebrr
It's the very fact that we, the public, are left wondering, guessing and speculating that is WRONG !
Where is the hard evidence that Yui is even alive ?
@@wave8359 It's Japan, a completely different culture. They don't talk about what medical issue someone has, that's private and private lives stay private. Often even rude to ask. My guess is she isn't sick anymore or doesn't have any issues in daily life anymore, because Babymetal has said: she is doing OK. So that's it. She said her goodbye to Babymetal and she hopes to be back in entertainment eventually. What more do you want to hear ?
ありがとう。同じ気持ちです。Babymetal＆Omajination、どちらも応援しています。
Yui decided to leave and they had to move on. It took them longer to replace her than they should have. Maybe they hoped she would come back. What is the controversy? Life goes on. New album is great anyway!
Took me a while too to get over Yui’s departure, but I am at peace with it now. Looking forward to what’s next for her as well as the new era of
\m/ BABYMETAL \m/
Very well done walk through the whole thing. Thank you!
as a relatively new fan i have spent the last few months immersed in BM music and studying their history. so i both fell in love with and lost yui in a very short space of time. i imagine it has been extremely hard for those who watched BM grow during the yui years, and invested so much of their lives in supporting those three talented young ladies who stole their hearts. after hearing all the rumors and speculation surrounding yui's departure i fall into the camp that she really didn't want to leave,but after her back injury from falling 8 feet off the stage at budokan, it became increasingly difficult for her to maintain the level of dance required for BM shows. also, when she left she was still a minor (in japan you are not considered and adult until age 20),so her parents may have had something to say about her continuing. if she was still under contract with amuse , and her back injury became even worse because they forced her to continue there could have been litigation leveled against the company. a lot of factors probably came into play,not just yui deciding she'd had enough. we may never know the whole story,but facts are facts,and momometal is an official member of BM. i don't think fans would rather they just packed it in,and faded into history. instead they're making new history,and a world tour is underway in hopes of healing all the broken hearts left behind from yui's departure. of course we all wish yui the best life possible moving on,and we still have all the wonderful videos and memories of her time with BM. that cannot be erased or taken from us. i am looking forward to seeing BM in october,and will be cheering at the top of my lungs after every song.
I absolutely agree with you, Babymetal decided to not be stuck in the past and evolve. The whole concept about a new Babymetal perfectly fits with Momoko becoming the new third member officially. I am happy for her and I am sure it will work out well. I wish Babymetal all the best and hope they will be able to entertain us for many years to come.
PS: Yui will always be the OG and I hold her in a special place in my heart and will never forget her. ❤
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! ❤️
It's nice to know that I'm not the only one with this opinion
And also, I have to say, you are incredibly beautiful!!!
I can't figure out why anyone makes such a big deal about Yui leaving or who replaces her considering it has absolutely no impact on how their music sounds. I could see being upset if she was forced out by the bands management but that wasn't the case, it was her decision. Why do anything other than wish her the best with whatever she does in the future and keep enjoying the music?
Yui was in the Babymetal band for 7 years, she was a pillar of Babymetal, with her choirs, dances and even songs that she sang together with Moa. Perhaps you met the band after Yui's departure and you would not understand the pain and sadness that her farewell from Babymetal causes her fans, since there were rumors that she would return to the band. We will always remember her with much love and affection, because she made us very happy while she was in the band
@@catolicomovie Well said, to add to that, if Yui did any kind of clarification/explanation/announcement on her decision for long term absence, fans likely would feel much better and could move ahead with some degree of clarity and relief. Sadly, there is none, fans have been left in the dark, which is really unfortunate, only time could heal.
The way I see it, Yui's unique legacy will be memorialized forever in fan's heart, eventually things will move along, give new BM and member a chance, may or may not like her, and that's ok. With dedication, hard work and typical magnificent production, eventually those awesome girls could earn fan's heart and acceptance.
Or just think of them as a brand new "Girl Metal" group, problem solved.
@@lousygeek She literally said it was her own decision to leave and also literally apologized for it. Before that she was absent for a long time because of a health issue and it's normal for japanese people to not share any information about their health issues publicly.
@@hachikuji_mayoi exactly. She herself made a statement. Amuse made a statement. Su, Moa and Koba addressed it numerous times in interviews. But some morons chose to look past all of that, and just focus on her picture still on Amuses webpage. Not on the front page, you really had to go digging for it.
And some people seem to believe, Babymetal would still sound like 6 years ago, if Yui was still in the band. Which is just delusional.
@@catolicomovie if you remember her with much love and affection, you would accept her desicion to leave Babymetal five years ago. Her not being able to perform at Su's birthday must have hurt her alot, and leaving Babymetal was most likely also a tough but correct desicion. Su said it herself that "if Yui sees a path for herself and being a part of Babymetal prevents her from taking that path, we should all support her".
But some people STILL won't let it to.
Yui Mizuno espero que estés bien y Gracias por todo que has hecho
Eres única
As a Yui fan, I've come to terms with her departure a long time ago. I would definitely welcome her back if she wanted to continue, but this is a new era and Momoko is a good addition to the group. And she definitely has the chops to be on Babymetal.
I never saw Momoko as a replacement for Yui. If they needed simply a replacement they would do it in 2018/19, with anybody. But they didnt. It seems Momoko built some unique connection and chemistry with Su and Moa to consider her as a part of BABYMETAL, she is genuinely special for them. And it is not like she earned her place in BM, or she deserves it for her hard work. No, it was not an audition, she was not earning her spot with years of work, waiting to finaly recognise her - I think thats unfair for both Momoko and Yui. I believe that if there was no Momoko or if someone else would be in her place, we wouldnt have a new member today, just another set of avengers or any other filler idea.
I think that their stance about Yui is still genuine. At that time there was just the void after Yui, they were still experiencing terrible loss. But throughout years, calmly, step by step, they build relationship with Momoko on the same level as with Yui. Which made them consider performing as a trio, respecting the past and the present relationship with Yui. The closest analogy to me is a mourning widow, who doesnt look for a replacement of her late husband and is willing to remain single forever, but when she meets someone who happen to make her happy, she consider building a new realtionship. I think thats healthy, mature and respectful way to approach such things. Love, remember and respect the past, but dont give up on your life when there is so many great things you can still experience in future.
Thank you for bring up your opinions and deep analysis! I competely understand your feelings, cause i have those too. I think it was a necessary step in Babymetal journey. I don't think babymetal would have lasted too long if they hadn't renewed something. Su and Moa needed a break and something new to be motivated. With this addition we are now sure that BM will be around for many many years! (you don't make this announcement and then disband after only 2 years 😅)
Also, it's nice to see you personally! I always loved your work and now I can appreciate you more for literally face us 🙂
Key is:"...constantly waiting for her (TomatoPrincess) to show any life signs..."After 5yrs!!!.Nothing less/nothing more.
Enjoyed your video! GJ to you! 😎👍🏻
Get that im your head! I love it
What a great, balanced and thoughtful dissection of current Babymetal manifestation. I have only been a fan since "finding" them in 2018, and honestly...I have not stopped being amazed by them. At the time, I had no idea of all the turmoil that had overtaken them, but over time (and much video watching) I do understand. As you noted, I will truly miss Yui....those "early" days cannot be replaced, but things change and the project will continue as long as Su and Moa want it to (I hope). I have no issue with a third active member being added, shit...it took almost 5 years! You know there had to be plenty of time for Yui to solidify here decision, and once that was understood (plus Covid getting in the way), the process was moved forward. Having an Avenger on stage was mainly to create the "triad" feature of Babymetal (in my opinion), so it was logical to "replace" Yui, at some point. I just hope they are ALL happy and that we, as fans, are able to enjoy the wonderful experience that Babymetal is. Thank you again for the video, very well done. Kitsune up!
@omajination I agree with you in every single point.
Of course I really miss our little tomato princess 🍅 Obviously her decision gave her fans a really hard time. But, it was HER decision and everyone should respect that. If people can't respect that, they're not real fans, they're just selfish. That's my opinion. We all can't even imagine how hard that must have been for Su and especially for Moa.
Wherever Yui is right now and whatever she's doing, I hope she's doing great and I absolutely support her following her own dreams.
My opinion about peach princess 🍑 Momo: No one deserves it more than her, to get her own mic and being called Momometal. As you said, she worked her ass off for years to get where she is now. And it can't be just me who notices, that since her announcement as Momometal, Su and Moa are a lot happier and more energetic on stage again. The other thing is, Su definitely needs some sunscreen on stage now, because of two always smiling sunshines by her side.
But on the other hand, poor Su has to deal with hengao, pranks and shenanigans from both sides now 😅
Look at it like this everyone both Yui and Momo is happy right now... Both are very talented... Both has my full respect and i kinda have a feeling that Su and Moa and Yui selected Momo 😊😊😊😊 in my eyes now there are 4 members of baby metal ... Su metal & Moa metal & Yui metal & Momo metal all four has worked hard and deserves the title the #1 band of all time 😊
you have a very positive view!! 😊😊
Where is the best place to learn about the different phases of BM?
You should see her other videos.
Great analysis! I agree with your basic conclusion. Also, I believe the way they handled the transformation was very clever.
At the April 2nd live concert in Yokohama, they put the legendary BABYMETAL to rest, and brought closure.
They used many shots of YUI in their presentation of this legend, showing respect and love.
After that, as a reincarnation, they gave birth to a new BABYMETAL, with new members = SU, MOA, MOMO. I feel they tried as hard as they could not to make it seem like YUI was being replaced.
I can hardly wait for the Blu-ray to come out. (usually takes several months)
You think the way "they" handled the changes was "clever" ? Just clever???---not secretive,not sly, not manipulative, not SUSPICIOUS ??????????????????
@@wave8359 no. None of those things.
@@wave8359 No.
Saya only did the remainder of 2018 after dark Knight carnival she did festivals in Asia Europe and Australia and then went on to do some stuff at a supper club I believe and other things since then non-babymetal related 2019 was the start of the avenger's with Riho Kano Momoko
my thoughts are simply, I don't mind Yui Left to pursue her own goals and i came to terms with that when she did, Momo, taking the third spot after 5 years, and all the effort she put into helping them, is just giving her the role. The only thing I think is rather then removing the Yui skull they could have just added a Momo one instead, with Yui's faded in the back ground. But I'll be happy once i have the new album.
Great video! Very well made and really interesting! I'm a big Yui fan too so I was clinging on to hope right up until the big Momoko reveal on April 1st.
Btw you have a new subscriber! Looking forward to many more videos from you!
If you've nothing better to do.... my channel contains a modest collection of BABYMETAL related videos which you might be interested in..... :)
BabyMetal ha renacido ahora en 2023, luego del desequilibrio que dejó en la banda 2018. La vida está hecha de etapas, yo festejo que Momoko formé parte de este nuevo camino que emprenden y agradezco a Yui el camino recorrido. Ambas son geniales e inigualables! 🤘🤘🦊🦊🇲🇽🇲🇽
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How many bands keep their original members? Metallica? Not all original members. AC/DC? Same.
Iron Maiden?
GWAR?
Sepultura?
Queensryche?
Stratovarius?
Lynyrd Skynyrd?
AKB48?
Black Veil Brides?
Bush?
Megadeth?
Queen's of the Stone Age?
Soul Asylum?
Anthrax?
Judas Priest?
Come on! I can add 100+ names to this list.
And, yes. I'm a big Yui-chan fan. However, life is nothing but change. The Earth changes constantly. Tectonic shifting, renaturing following volcanic eruptions, glacial sweeping.
Let's appreciate what we have, and celebrate Yui's spirit by welcoming Momoko! 🎉🥷⛩️🏯👘🍜🍱
But also one little detail to notice here is that the fans still ask for former members from some of those bands even after like 20 years or so lol
So yeah BM has a long way to go
The evolution of BABYMETAL has been the absolute most exciting event in all of recorded human history.
We not only witnessed this but participated as fans & followers.
Su is my Goddess
Moa & Momo my queen.
Thank you, O.
Mixed feelings with the official announcement of the band. However, for the choreographies and dances that characterize the band, 3 are always necessary. I would have wanted the duo to continue because the gap left by Yui is huge, the project started with her and the replacement of an official member always hurts.
On the other hand, I don't understand the way the company handles the band. Communication is nil. The official networks of the band (which are managed by the company) do not give much information and the members are not allowed to have them either so the fans know absolutely nothing. Amuse keep us as just filthy consumers.
About Yui always a question to the abyss. The reason why she left the band was never really stated, supposedly she had a deadly disease, what disease? In other posts, I read that it was a disease inherited from the family or that she had to take care of her family. I read that another supposed reason was that she suffered from anorexia. However, signing with these companies makes them block your freedom to speak and interact with fans, even the interviews seem like a script...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Why don't we shoot all the avengers including Saya. Then track Yui down and FORCE her back into the group. The BM girls opinions don't matter anyway. It's what I want. Seriously though: If Suzuku Nakamoto and Moa Kikuchi are happy about Momoko joining them, then who in the Frankenstein's Monster are we to decide if she belongs or not. Get over yourselves. IDZ... quit bullying Momoko.
What are you talking about mate?Where is the bullying about her?BM fans just love Yui...even if She doesn't care too much about it...apparently...put it this way:When Richie Blackmore left Deep Purple then do you think people bullied Steve Morse when they wanted that Richie would come back to Purple?Nonsense...people love their favourite bands and don't want less instead of more...
It's not about bullying poor Momoko. What we need to do is start bullying the corporate lawyers and controllers and manipulators----who seem to have made very sure that we all get NO REAL NEWS about Yui . I find that suspicious as hell !
@@wave8359 man, when an Idol retires, especially when so young, they usually disappear like that. They deal with all kind of fans, their job includes an emotional connection artist-public that some unstable fans may twist. This secrecy is common and has many reasons, including her safety. Neither she nor her parents would want you or me to know what happened to her. As matter of fact, you know how some fans can be really scary. Then no info or no clues for fans, and so she can live a good and safe life.
I think "Believing" describes exactly what happened to the band and how they feel, and the change that Babymetal wants, Su herself has said that she knew the fear of not being the original trio anymore, but that they hope that the fans understand that they want to continue with what they love about Babymetal
11:00 I'm sorry to come here again, but regarding the girls' interviews, everything they say, since the beginning of the group, in any interview, is dictated by Koba. (They even have the famous "only the fox god knows" answer for when they can't answer something, which is super cute).
That's the way they do it in Japan, It is what it is. Maybe we, the fans, will never know what the girls really think about anything. Whether they love each other passionately or hate each other fervently, we will probably have to wait 20 years after the group's disbandment to find out. Anything Su said about Yui and her position in the group, was passed on and rehearsed by Koba. I personally think that Moa and Yui were like sisters, but the kind that love each other, not like me who hates mine.
SmileyMetal has done much to heal the sadness over Mizuna Yui leaving
Wow I knew there was hate but this is just outrageous, I never knew babymetal before Yui's departure and I still hope she makes an update on her life but I'm glad Momoko was there to help.
After all, we can still see Yui everyone on probably every social media platform, and if I'm not wrong, Yui's vocals are still hearable in some mive songs. Although it's sad she left, we have to move on and hope for the best of Babymetal to come.
A good and nuanced take.
I'm very happy with the announcement. Maybe because I was a fan of Sakura Gakuin before Babymetal and I'm used to the graduation system and people leaving that I don't feel super strong about the situation. Though I think the Yokohama concerts in 2019 were a missed opportunity to have a proper Legend Y where we could all say thank you for all of her hard work and a proper farewell to her. The whole situation was handled poorly imo.
I saw the new BM in June. I was right in front Momo at the barrier, and it was an awesome night.
I´m gonna give some insight, becouse I think Babymetal handle this in a perfect way and a few fans notice it. I became a Babymetal fan at the end of 2018 so I´ve never seen Yui in a concert, but I love her and her work in Babymetal and Sakura Gakuin.
First of all the avenger´s era was not an audition to replace Yui, Su and Moa had a long time of confusion about their future and they endure tons of pain in their loses, in that time the feeling was they lost someone irreplaceable, then pandemic it and they could disband but they keep going, and they grew up even stronger in the comeback, but something was missing, Momoko clear Su and Moa minds and now they are a new Babymetal, stronger than ever. This is something Su and Moa told in an interview for the Hedoban magazine volume 40, I encoradge you and all Babymetal fans to read it, this interviews are gold and the most intimate about them and the band I never read.
I´m gonna transcrive some Moa and Su words that are really important to understand the magnitude of this.
--Interviewer: It does appear that BABYMETAL overall has become “young and fresh” again, just as MOAMETAL said?
--SU-METAL: Well, I don’t think it’s due to youth per se… it’s more that as MOMOMETAL described earlier, “Black” became “Clear”, and those are my thoughts too. We’d been a duo for a long time, but during the live shows, we had been dancing as a three-person group together with the Avengers, so there was a lot of confusion and “what the heck is going on?” during that time, and various opinions about what we were doing.
-Interviewer: It was somewhat bewildering.
--SU-METAL: Yes. Everyone was confused, and speculation was going wild in all directions. How should I put it… this state of chaos had persisted for about 5 years. But after we finally made the decision to move forward as a new three-person group with the addition of MOMOMETAL, we found a new sense of determination; the determination to say loud and clear that, “This is BABYMETAL moving forward, and if you’re onboard with it, please support us!”
Also, as we went through the hiatus/seal, we asked ourselves what it was we really wanted to do. A certain level of confidence was derived from the fact that we’d been doing it for 10 years already. And this confidence in our past experience led to the confidence that we could do it as a new trio as well. So that’s why I feel very refreshed. Of course, there may be the impression that MOMOMETAL is an addition to BABYMETAL, but my feeling is more that we have to start over and rethink what BABYMETAL is from scratch in our heads. It is because of this feeling that I felt we’d gone from “Black” to “Clear”, like a light was illuminating everything.
--MOAMETAL: I feel the same. We were all brightened by a new energetic element entering BABYMETAL. When it was just the two of us, I would sometimes overthink things. More than anything else, MOMOMETAL brightens the room. There were times before when I’d worry about rather pointless things, but with MOMOMETAL’s cheerfulness, such things are blown away. So on Day 2 of Pia Arena MM, it wasn’t so much that MOMOMETAL had joined us, but rather that we were “born anew” and had become a “new band”; we felt like "new artists" again. It renewed our spirit.
This I think is a confirmation of Babymetal being fine again and makes me so glad and relieved.
Also they told they chose the Pia Arena MM and the 1st April becouse is Fox God day, forshadowing MOMOMETAL was the chosen one.
You can read the full interview here: stechen.blogspot.com/2023/11/2023hedoban40.html
The second thing I want to say is I don´t feel Babymetal is erasing Yui´s legacy, on the other hand, they did a ceremony to farewell her and the old child and teen Babymetal. They represented old Babymetal in Karate song, dressed in red as teenagers, then they bring Momoko to the spot and play a video including Yui, they thank her for all but they have to move along and I think with Momoko they are unstoppable, maybe we can enjoy 10 more Babymetal years.
Finally I´m so glad becouse they are performing a lot of the old songs again like Babymetal Death and iine, and they are plannning to play others as Catch me if you can.
Thank you 🦊
Someone recommended that I watch this because it's close to my opinion on the matter. I agree on many aspects. But there are a few key things where I completely and wholeheartedly disagree.
I am sorry, but I will never understand this stance about "respecting Yui". When Michael Jordan briefly retired from Basketball, do you think it pained him to see that people wanted him to come back to basketball? Why do people assume Yui wouldn't appreciate the fact fans, even half a decade later, still want her to come back? Wouldn't it be safer to assume that she would be hurt that people would so easily let go and forget about her?
And it's not like fans have any way to directly contact her and nag her about it, right? As you've said, it's not clear what she wants, nobody knows that, apart from those who already know her - and I assume these have faithfully respected whatever decision she has made.
When you say "..But would I want her to come back if that's not what she wants?" -> That's the whole point, if she comes back, that meant she wanted it, right? So why are we even asking ourselves that question??? I don't think ANYBODY who is a genuine Yui fan, would ever have the intention to pull her back by force IF they KNEW she doesn't want to come back. That is just a fallacy argument at best there.
But other than that, I feel the same as you on most things. I do not feel any resentment toward Momoko. I do however feel a LOT of resentment toward team BM and their management and their communication to the fans. I feel properly disgusted that they removed Yui's skull and even more disgusted that they removed Yui from their biography (go check BABYMETAL's channel BIO description. They have properly ERASED Yui from there - as if she had never existed).
As I understand it, we still agree on the whole "Respecting Yui" topic. Obviously if she came back and stayed, no one would doubt it was because she wanted to. However, it became clear that she, indeed, didn't want to come back. The disrespect begins when even after seeing that, fans are still demanding her return. Even after 5 years of scary silence, and even after Momoko was confirmed, people are still throwing Yui's name as the only right choice.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason Yui has taken so long to show herself in any way is because her name is so tightly tied to BABYMETAL, making her unable to detach from it and actually persue her own thing. Just imagine if she comes back to the industry and the only thing people have to say about her is "hey what about BABYMETAL?". As if she couldn't be good enough as herself, just like Su and Moa believed at some point that BM was over without Yui, which (breaking news) wasn't the case.
As long as we don't know what her goals are, it's still disrespectful to demand anything out of her. Don't know if you still disagree with that, but this was my point in the video
It's called an obsession. Parasocial infatuation is the level that most superfans stay at. But a lot of you broke level cap & now here we are in 2023 😬Fans wanting her back may very well have been a flattering thought to YUI for a while after she left. But when she sees the same shit I see way too many fans posting day in & day out for the last 5 years, that same thought that used to flatter her, now likely only makes her skin crawl.
@@omajination But people have the right to prefer Yui over Momoko, don't they? As long as nobody is being needy and agressive about it, I don't see a reason why anybody could not declare that they prefer the era when Yui was in.
People should not force others to feel the same way about this - that goes both ways.
And again, nobody is "demanding" anything from Yui. Unless some creepers manage to knock on her doorstep and annoy her in real life, commenting that you would want her to come back on a random fan-made page somewhere on the internet does not sound disrespectful to me.
Edit: and I agree with your bit about Yui's name being always attached to BABYMETAL. But that is something very common with many different actors, musicians, artists in general. In general, I'd say she's rather safe in Japan and I believe fans would encourage her on her solo career should she decide to have one.
@@Chadw1cKed There are plenty of things people say that would make any girl from the band (past or present)'s skins crawl man.
That's just the way things go. You can't identify a few rotten apples and generalize a whole group of people.
Most of the people I've seen from Yui groups have been very respectful, have congratulated Momoko, and announced that they are ready to let go.
There are cringe comments and cringe people everywhere, including with fans that are happy Yui is gone...
If you want to think Yui hates the fact there are still fan groups out there, fine by me, but do not force me to think that as well.
@@Zedem0n I think you may have taken my above statement with a bit too big of a sweep. I wasn't painting the entire group with that brush. Only the extreme cases. Which with social media being as accessible and as wide reaching as it is, I will say, I've been seeing a lot more of these extremes. Both in frequency & quantity. Especially lately. But I know it's because of recent events. But to the point I was going to make. Referring to that last thing you said. It's not that I want to think that. Nor do I want to force that thought onto anyone else. I was simply making a harsh counter-hypothetical to the speculation in the original comment. In the end, that's all any of us are doing. Speculating. Anyway, I don't want to shit on anyone's day. Wish everyone the best.🤘🏻
Yui has a heartwarming smile and I miss her babyface metal pout . Thank you for the nice video . Salud .
Just a couple of things. When musclemetal appeared in 2018, fans were still expecting Yui to return. When Amuse confirmed Yui was still a member, fans chilled out a bit. Fans were not looking forward to the Chosen Seven, since most would only accept the triangle formation. The Chosen Seven actually did five shows and fan response was not favorable. The shows that Saya performed with them in late 2018 was a return to the triangle formation and fans were thrilled. There actually were many people who wanted Saya to become the new member then.
You have to realize that the interviews with Su and Moa where they announced they were a duo was more to explain the Avengers, who hadn't appeared on stage with them yet. There were many people who thought the Avengers were competing for that open position and it may look like that in retrospect but I don't think so. My theory was that there were three Avengers because it was too much to ask from just one. Eventually, Momoko got enough experience to where she could handle all the shows herself. I guess we'll never know when they made the decision to make Momoko a permanent member. She did that audition during the sealed period and apparently, they weren't ready to lock her down at that point. She certainly has earned her spot in Babymetal.
It really wasn't that unreasonable to wonder if Yui wasn't coming back. You could imagine she may have been going to school and they were holding her position open until she finished. She was still under contract at Amuse and her position was still open. That sealed period would have allowed her time to get back in shape. So, in that scenario, Yui wouldn't be coming back under duress. Thankfully, the position is filled now and all the speculation is over, at least on that subject. It's time to celebrate Momometal now. It's really sad that much of the conversation recently has focused on Yui instead of Momoko, where it belongs.
ありがとう❤🧀🍅🍚🍑🍼🤘🏼😋👍🇯🇵
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18:27 Here I was about to dissolve into tears... 😭
The problem has never been Yui, may the Fox God grant her every wish, even the smallest, but her fans: in addition to being intrusive and inappropriate, they disrespect Yui first, then Momoko and ultimately all the Babymetal!!!
I found BM in 2014 when most people did but I never kept up with them and never got invested.
Around 2020 that changed for me and I fell in love with the band, but at this point, Yui had already been gone for 2 years. So I was never as attached to Yui as everyone else. I appreciate her commitment to the band while she was involved and I enjoy the work she's done, but I didn't have that gut punch feeling that older BM fans felt.
I know BM with the Avengers and I'm more attached to them as the duo rather than the trio. I've also seen Momoko's face in videos more than Yui's. From what I've seen, I firmly believed that if anyone deserved the spot, It's Momoko.
I don't think it's disrespectful to Yui or anything. Yui made her choice, she left. She wasn't fired or kicked out, she left. It's disrespectful to hold her against her will to satisfy your idea of what BM was.
I don't think it occurs to those fans that maybe, just maybe, they might grow to like Momoko, or even just enjoy her contribution to the band in the future.
Let BM grow and do what they want to do.
It is nothing to do with Momoko---no one dislikes her, or has any reason to.
It is about the disappearance of Yui, the arrogant secrecy shown by the Amuse Corporation, and the absence of any real, detailed, proven facts----whether concerning the gutarist's death or Yui's subsequent disappearance. We deserve REAL answers, The Amuse Corporation is NOT above the law !
@@wave8359 Have you considered that it is none of your business and she doesn't have to explain anything? The letter saying she left because of medical reasons was a courtesy to the fans, that's all. Accept what you got and move on, it's been half a decade.
@@wave8359 Yui doesn't own anyone any explanation. No you don't deserve anything. You are not above Yui's individual rights. If choose to leave that her prerogative. If she wanted to share something with her fans, she would have already. You understand this right?? Tell me you're not clueless??
This is Japan, not the share your life with everybody west. Yui left a message explaining her decision to leave , and that's that. Don't like it ? Tough.
They still respect privacy in Japan, so live with it.
There's a lot of growing for a lot of fans that needs to happen. Just enjoy their music, old and new, and enjoy their future evolution , as I'm sure there'll be much more to confuse us in the future.
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@@wave8359 you have to be trolling. You can't really be this ignorant and entitled.
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you are wonderful👍😆🦊🤩😍
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was those people who left the BABYMETAL phantom all because of yui not return. we have to take a note these girls mourn for five years as a duo, not only for yui but for their guitarist who passed. That’s two losses in one year. And you still have to travel the world and continue the show. They even came up with the avengers system. I guess it’s way it’s not full replacement member, but when it was time to move on, it was time move on.
And plus a good note is that they could have put Momo in the same pigtail style as Yui but they didn’t. They put in her own style, her own identity. yes, she placed Yui in the set but the same time now she’s not trying to become Yui. She’s making her Legacy her own legend.
Yui was really special girl...with all her shy and sleepy mood, smile and that every look was so special. irreplaceable person. I visit BM soon in Madrid...will see how will it be without Tomato princes
Su and Moa never said they would never be a trio again. All they said was they decided to continue as a duo in 2018 instead of disbanding Babymetal totally. When they said Yui is irreplaceable in sure that meant there will never be another Yuimetal. Not that another girl couldnt occupy her spot. If anything i think it was an insult to Yui to not find an official third member sooner. It suggested her position wasn't important enough to bother with. They could just throw some random dancers in there and call it good. I'm sure they didn't mean it that way though. They had to find someone with the right chemistry.
While I understand your point, I would say it's the other way around (maybe it's both, which makes it hard), if they immediately replaced her that would mean it send a message she could easily be replaced. It turns out, after trying many years, they tried out of respect to not replace her. And after being a real duo, they could add a member without replacing Yuimetal because the 3 formation is important, but also the 2 voices singing together, Moametal and an other member.
I think babymetal was giving Yui a chance to return if she wanted to. After the budokan performances they went on haitus for a year, and that's when they started to think about how to go from there. They can't just go the rest of babymetal career rotating backing dancers in Yui's spot, because it soon become awkward with people wanting the avengers to be micced, and babymetal just works better as a trio, as that was the initial idea. In the hiatus they probably asked Yui if she wanted to return to babymetal, and we can conclude that yui did not want to come back, maybe because she enjoys life as a non celebrity, maybe her health issues are still stopping her, who knows. But, the reason Amuse didn't want to add someone new in straight away is because is would be an insult to the fans of babymetal, replacing yui when her departure is still a fresh wound, and eliminating her chance of returning once she got better. Sooner or later, a third member, weather Yui or not, would of had to be introduced as a permanent member, and babymetal just took the chance of this album to fo that, and to take a different path and see how it goes.
Momoko was probably the best candidate to take her position up, as she's familiar with the dance and lyrics, performed with babymetal the most out of the three avengers, and earned THE ONE'S respect, too the point where most were calling on amuse to mic her and make her a permanent member.
@@autohmae To be honest, I don't think Yui cares if they replaced her or not and I don't think any of them care that much about how the fans feel about it. If they did they would have given more detail about what happened to Yui in the first place. It's a small minority of fans that are bothered by it in the first place. I'm not sure why they took so long to take on a new member but maybe they just wanted to start a the new era with her?..
@@jeffschreifels8651 Babymetal has said in a recent interview, we are going to do something new, I hope you (the reader/fans) follow. Using Road of Resistance in the way they did in the recent show to basically say they are creating a new unpaved path from their previous unpaved path of the Metal Resistance. These are all signs they aren't making a break with the past but are doing something new. Honestly as I mentioned somewhere else, I think maybe Yui cared more about Sakura Gakuin having to be shutdown than everything related to her and Babymetal. Yui, I feel, tried to come back for roughly a year and could not, so then made her decision, Babymetal left a place for her to come back during that time and then tried to move on as a duo, closed their 10 years and took their long planned break (maybe even planned before Yui left) and re-evaluated on what best to do for their next chapter in their existence. The conclusion was probably already the logical step, but made the final decision after the break and now they are back 3 ladies strong. Yui probably has very fond memories of being in Babymetal and just wants Babymetal to succeed in whatever way they see best. She is probably happy with them choosing a former SG member. She might even think it's it's almost foreshadowing how they both wore the yellow ribbon in Mini-Pati.
yeah this is exactly my point. Also idk if people have even considered that after performing so much with momoko they probably felt she was fitting to be a full member, they definitely seem to enjoy each others' company and momoko also seems to enjoy performing the songs a lot so it just feels like natural progression at this point. I don't think they initially planned to have a 3rd member again when they decided to go on as a duo after yui left, but after being together everything just fell into place.
Finally someone gives credit to Saya Hirai 😊 Girl is a sweetheart and IMHO would have been a fantastic Avenger had she not decided two months earlier to join Torahime-Ichiza (which unfortunately shut down later that year). Bad timing screwed her over. She still dances and sometimes gets to act in plays. And yes, she is happy for Momoko.
I would like you to talk about the new album, what do you think?
I'm a new fan that I had the privilege of seen Babymetal in the two Brazil concerts. So when I became a fan, Momoko was already an official member and I am really happy with this choice. But I'm curious, is this mixed feeling about Momo still there or you are really happy now?
I have said something's about Yui fans as it's a frustrating minefield, like you said she made an official statement that she left and to me that was the end. Like it or not shes no longer part of Babymetal it's up to her now to say what she's up to next and has nothing to do with Babymetal. Anyone who is a Babymetal fan hopes that she is happy and well and doing what she wants to be doing. I'm sure she would be happy that the person who took over her Minipattie role is also the one to help Babymetal continue their journey. They kept the Babymetal members in the SG family and I hope Yui can worry less and focus on what she has planned. This was a good video.
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I know we are fans and I kinda understand the drama. But we need to respect Yui and her decisions.
So, congratulations to Momoko Okazaki on becoming an official member of BABYMETAL. Welcome MOMOMETAL!
And thank you Yui Mizuno for all you gave to us. You will always have a special place in our hearts.
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You make it sound as if she's dead and buried. Is she ?
@@wave8359 how did he do that??? What he correctly said was to respect Yui and her wish to be private and thanked her for her hard work
Unfortunately a small portion of the fan base is toxic yet they're the loudest. That's my main issue with idol culture. It makes the fans too attached and since Yui hasn't given any life signs it has unintentionally created a cult around her
Surely the real issue is corporate secrecy in Japan. Absence of real journalism there. Absence of real news about Yui. (like----is she even alive?)
@@wave8359 no man, if you do not know anything about Yui now is probably because HER do not want to. Or you think she is kinda a slave, and the rest of babymetal is ok with it? that is creepy.
I think that the cult that you mentioned is provocated by the Amuse Company because the incomplete and sincere communication with the fans.
The girls don't have permission to have personal social media accounts, I think the reason is clauses contract. We dont know nothing about their life's, so everything is a mysterious. Even the online newspaper or magazines dedicated to the "idols" know the reality about Yui.
@@anto-metal ----the point is: We Do NOT know!.....and we should. Not out of nosiness.Out of loyalty and conscience.---AND from resentment of corporate arrogance in keeping us away from any updates.
@@wave8359 Yui left a message in 2018, how many more messages do you need? You said we should know, why? You know what is privacity?
Thank you! Thank you very much! I especially wanted to hear your comments and your vision of situation.
What about me - I'm very unhappy and devastated 😢. The worst thing they did - destroyed old logo! Why?
And performed BMD with Momo.. And all hopes to see Yui are gone..💔 So I need time to get used to it.. Sorry..😓
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts!
A newish logo for a newish version of Babymetal. One with Su, Moa and Momoko. It just makes sense
Youre a fine thinker!! I discovered babymetal for myself in 2012 and like most older metal heads. I was like no. Then 2 months ago, i watched the Sonisphere performances and fell hard. Then went down the worrmhole. My concern is the same as you now with Yui. I just hope she is ok!! I dont like all the secrecy about and the guitarist. He fell from an observation deck, and thats it. No actual location of where. And Yui...seeing the over the future audtion with Moa, there so damn cute. I just want to protect them type of stuff. Cuz they were trie kids. And Japanese gets a little creepy, but minus all that, the Kame band was metal, period. But hearing and seeing them live, which is how i judge a good band, boom!!! Wow. I accept the change too Momo and their direction as a band, and love Divine Attack amd Mirror mirror. So i accept there new music. Anyways, u make intelligent points and i appreciate it. I want there management too be a little more transparent. Since they were kids when they started. Period. I just hope Yui is good. Thats it. And your point saying if this was Yuis choice too leave, why try too force her too be in it. Her happiness matters above all. Smart person you are! Keeo making the videos please. And u hope Suqueen and Moa bad ass, get too meet u one day. Sincerely
I thought it would be Kano Fujihira, considering her role in "Papaya."
I think whole choosen 7 and those Avengers are part of their project to find a proper 3rd member - maybe the choosen 7 was a part of their lore plan from long time before (like how they planned their hiatus covid just make it happen sooner), to bring a more mature look to Babymetal as they grew up. but just had to adjust since Yui had to leave - but the Avengers project definitely have multiple purposes - like choosing acceptable candidates for 3rd place, also keep BM going as duo while maintain trio performance, also to see how fans react over years,...etc... and Momoko earned it in the end
I find it very sad that people are so detached from reality that this is something they worry about, I myself am a super fan of Babymetal and have been for years now but I still understand what Babymetal is. As with all professional musicians it is a job, yes they may love what they do and it is their passion, but no musician turns up to a gig and does not expect to be paid it is the simple reality of the system we live in, so from the point of view of the people involved it is a business decision, nothing more. Each of these girls while being under the overall management of Amuse also would have their own personal agents that handle contract negotiations on their behalf, and this decision would have been made in the board room. My guess is contracts were up for renewal at the end of the financial year 31st March and Momoko did not want to sign a new contract that had her at any less than a full member as she had her future to look out for. Amuse probably decided it was in their interest to give her this rather than lose her and add even more chaos at a time when the band was fragile after the forced hiatus due to the pandemic and all parties decided this was the best option going forward for everyone. A side effect of this might be that Yui is now free to pursue her own career if that was in fact preventing her from doing so. My own personal belief is she just does not want to be involved in the industry anymore or she would have returned years ago, it is a tough life being involved in a touring band with a lot of life sacrifices being necessary and it is not for everyone
Su actually stated that she took a break from music. If you want any proof, I'll send you a video of someone explaining what happened as they read an article about it.
If I wonder about the contract of Su and Moa and Babymetal in general, is that they have the same rights and weight of words that the great of their team, and more important, they have the more important decision if they want to continue or not, according to Su in the PMC interview of this year, they had planned many years ago to make that hiatus after those 10 years and think about what would happen later, so I think the hiatus is planned not for Amuse, maybe for Babymetal’s team.
So in part, I'm happy that if Su and Moa renewed their contract and keep going, is because they wanted to, so I think that is the more important to keep in mind.
@@ZoeyHope Um thanks, but this is a discussion about Momoko and Yui
@@ZoeyHope I agree, the proves are in the last interview of PMC 2023, is very VERY long
@@chrisharris1522 I understand, I just wanted to point out what Su wanted. My bad.
5:07 The microphone thing is quite simple to understand, habit, the people responsible for preparing the costumes and "dressing" the girls put the microphone together as they always did before without even realizing it. It was between 2016 and 2017 that I first came into contact with Babymetal. So I've been following the group since Yui's time. In my headcanon, Babymetal has always been 4 girls singing and dancing. Just as I would give one of my bad fingers to see her back, even if it was just for a song, I can't imagine the group without Momo.
Personally, I would have liked the group to continue as a duo, however I don't dislike the incorporation of momometal, it just feels weird, I guess it's just the beginning. In the same way, I will continue to enjoy the music that you continue to make, thanks for this video and for the others, I like how you talk about babymetal and how you compile videos of them. greetings from Argentina.
see youu🤘
Yui Mizuno aka Yuimetal will be forever the original Trio of Babymetal. Momoko Okazaki aka Momometal will be able to replace Yuimetal but will be on her style and characteristics. Don't ever compare because they have different personalities. Life has to move on. Babymetal is still Babymetal but now they are more mature and more accomplished. Babymetal is still a novelty act and unique in their way. Kitsune Up 🦊🦊🦊🤘🤘🤘🇯🇵🇸🇬#notacult.
They are far from just a novelty act at this point. Not sure why you said that.
The way I see it: Yuimetal will never be replaced, Babymetal can only add a new member and they've now done that.
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Contractual obligations. Simple as that. When did Yui's contract with Babymetal run out? When was Momo's contract with SG over? Legal hassles, wouldn't be the first Japanese band where that happened, won't be the last. Avenger's can't sing onstage? Yui's vocals can't be played? Contracts. Lawyers do not belong in rock.
I'll beat a bowl Yui's pursuing her education or something and getting away from the shitshow of showbiz for a while, the way Riho did. That's cool, we'll wait. The Angel of Joy is here and that's very cool as well.
Lawyers have no place in rock - well said. Because it's about money......money money money money.😁
Actually, I think the only contracts they have are with Amuse, the group they are part of is mostly irrelevant from a contract perspective.
@@autohmae There are contracts within Amuse: different divisions, different management, different labels etc. Read about the hassles Perfume went thru in 2011 to set up International distribution.
IMO: why didn't they let the Avengers/Dark Side/Chosen Seven sing? BM contractually stipulated that the only singing voices be the original 3 until the contract ran out. Exact same thing happened with AKB47 members etc. Fine print probably stated "sing" which let to the Avengers speaking on IDZ at MG MM20, and Momo at 10 Budakon for IDZ and FDTD.
Remember, this isn't 3 ladies getting together in a garage: this is the nightmare of the "entertainment industry." Again, reference Iggy Pop, he's got stories...
@@bigearl5482 It might be true, but how come Miko was singing ?
LOL I hope the next ad you see is about bubble gum and papayas. That'd be great 😂
I cant imagine refusing to accept a new member so much about a member swap in an industry where every girl group swaps or graduates constantly
In the idol industry, yeah. However, BABYMETAL isn't fully an idol industry, their management is a mix and they intend to keep the originals as long as possible. Otherwise Su and Moa would've "graduated" a long time ago and passed it on to a BABYMETAL 2.0
@@omajination In addition, in a "normal" idol group they would've replaced Yui a month after her departure, not 5 years later... ^_^
Their manager is an old school metalhead. He deals with bands, not idols. He was in a weird spot, like an infiltrator, when he managed to create Babymetal.
@@omajination ...yes, you are right in saying that this is about something else.. But you fail to pin-point that something else as :---corporate secrecy, absence of real news, A possible cover-up?.....of something !
@@wave8359 you're embarrassing yourself spamming the same comment on every post
BABYMETAL is a unit born from Sakura Gakuin, so I think that BABYMETAL members must be graduates of Sakura Gakuin.😀😀
I think that's not the Reason. Momoko not only was at Sakura Gakuin but also at the Hiroshima Actors School. There was some matching Chemistry involved.
@@smellcasterthat was Riho, she even performed with Su in ASH. Momoko was born in Fukuoka and lived in Kanagawa, while Riho is from Hiroshima like Su
@@omajination Riho also shared a regular school with Suzuka at one point. They were in different Homerooms. I don't know when, or if they knew each other. If they were in ASH at that time they did.
Based and cute
we somehow always know since 2015 that Yui will left the band one day!
HOW?----we NEVER received any real information---whether on the guitarist's death or on Yui's DISAPPEARANCE !
@@wave8359 we Asian bonding ..i guess. i also previously managed a local artiste group. also Yui like to space out during long interview..she was not there, u already can see Su and Moa getting closer...
@@wave8359 yes we received it.
@@gtmg22b2 ohh I can understand and realize that after read your comment now. I see she wasnt there when in interviews, she were like not talking or "vibing" and I see her mind went disconnected during interview then suddenly "connected" when the interviewer pointed a question on her.
I think the first point that we all have to keep in mind is ... Yui left BABYMETAL and it must have been a dreadful choice to do, thus it should be respected.
That means no more YUIMETAL, though yeah, we still got tons of stuff with her, it's not like she's going to be canceled.
From this perspective, what could have been the right choice?
I think they tried their best keeping somehow YUIMETAL part of the group nonetheless, respecting her contribute to their successful career.
But MOA was clearly suffering her new position. Yes, she's the main dancer, but she doesn't have Black Babymetal anymore, and her doing all the choruses alone, well that was odd, so a third member doesn't take anything away from her role, it actually helps putting her more under the spotlight.
And Momoko totally deserves being the third one, her commitment is total.
The only painful thing to me, is the new logo, yes, it's cool, it's nice, but it's also the final cut.
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I've decided to stop following New BABYMETAL. I'm just turned off by the way they do things and play with our emotions. I thank them for 6 great years (for me) And wish them (the members) the best. They introduced me to Japan and it's music, so there's plenty to occupy my time. I didn't actually expect YUI to return. I don't think she'll ever be able to perform at that level again. I like Momoko. It seems that Amuse has been trying to make the members less important since YUI'S departure and they've finally succeeded. BABYMETAL is now bigger than it's members. They've slowly taken the members personalities out, which was a big draw for me. Now they have a system to replace the members with someone new given equal standing. The worst thing to me is the new generic corporate logo. Not only did they take out YUI'S skull. They took out Moa's hearts. Making her even less important.
I don't feel we have the right for information about YUI. But we do have the right to express our love and support for her. It shows that she still has a ready fan base in case she ever performs again.
When Momoko Tsugunaga, the best idol that ever was, retired. Fans were asked- if you see her don't talk to her and don't tell anyone. That request has been honored. No one has ever said anything. It's a Japanese thing and I respect it.
YUIIIIIIIII COME BACK😢😢😢😢
She has a LIFE
Dude move on. She did. It's simple.
*Cringe.* 😬
@@Manolo144p ,,,,hmmmm.....but does she?
There was simply no need for a third official member as the Avengers did that role perfectly.
it's time to move on, it has been over 5 years
They did not. They didn't sing so a bunch of older songs were off the table.
Actually, the biggest missing part was the vocals, Babymetal was limited in the kind of songs they could make and older songs live sounded like something was missing, and well, really their was something missing. Which is the harmony of Moametal with an other member.
Yes there was. Admit it. Babymetal still has a long career ahead of them, and they can't just rotate people in yui position forever. Yui probably said herself she didn't want to come back, and therefore they took that as a chance to go on a new path.
@@keyboardsmash1231 Yui officially left the group in like 2018 or 2019 (I forgot exactly) already, by her own decision
Good job but now that they have momoko maybe we can have black babymetal songs back
Yui dedicatedly spent her youth for fans. almost famous idols retired within 5-10 years. yeah that’s enough. there is a graduation(retire) of till than their 9th grade in Sakura Gakuin system, and it's very good thing for kids. Yeah, so I've said that's fishy what around 18yo girl aims an idol at the past. LOL. Thank you always! .・🌸
btw When do Scandal, Perfume, Band-maid marry?? they are very devoted right! I've even never see photo of her BF.
Yeah...BM is a good rock band right now...before that BM was an ART...the vibe is gone...low energy dancing...badly overmixed electronic effects...like an Eurovision song contest participant...the new album has nothing to do with metal...the previous BM was much much better...Momoko is good...rather the music concept is bad...
Nothing to do with metal? That's some next level bullshit
The Other ONE is a unique album, indeed they choose to blackened their logo on it's cover, that's pretty explicit. It's an experiment, a very successful one IMHO, but I understand as they do, that it could not be the favorite cup of tea for many of their fans. And yes, it's not a metal album, the songs that belong to the genre are indeed only a few as most are prog rock and a couple are more into the dance space.
I think the only thing that will remain of this experience, is the shift from power metal to metalcore, that's going to stay, but shredding will not fade away, I mean, see what they did in METALIZM!
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@@DeePal072 "Metal Kingdom", "Divine Attack", "Mirror Mirror", "Maya", "Believing", "Monochrome" are clearly metal
@@Hgoenge81 Divine Attack, Mirror Mirror, MAYA and Believing are metal, of course mixed with other genres, that's what BM always do.
Metal Kingdom, Time Wave, Monochrome, Light & Darkness and Legend are mainly rock, with different mixes of hard and prog rock, dance, trance EDM.
METALIZM is ... OTFGK and I love it!
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Nothing to do with metal?! This is their heaviest album to date
Well, they say : Yuimetal has left her place because of ???....
I guess this is not the truth. Yui disappeared completly! Why is there no lifesign from her? No picture, no message from her? No "hello, I'm okay"......!
Is Yui still alive? Nobody has seen her anymore. Mikio died and Yui left Babymetal suddenly and disappeared in the metalspace forever? Something is rotten in the Babymetal-World. What goes on? What about her solo career?
Lol, they will say ONLY THE FOXGOD KNOWS....
RIP Mikio
RIP YUI
What I've heard from a Japanese fan Yui was just in school/uni/whatever the form of education is called. Just like Moa still was.
@@autohmae lol, this could be a desinformation. Unrealistic! Classmates don't post any photo? Made in secret? I am still waiting for the "hello, its me, yui(-metal)...."
@HARJEN-we4gg privacy is a very important thing in Japan. Yui might not ofwqnted photos spread of her, and if the rumor is true, then I'm happy her privacy is being respected.
maybe she just doesn't care anymore, maybe she got tired of these weird people. she has no obligation to be on social media just to satisfy your curiosity.
@@HARJEN-we4gg you have to remember in Japan is a different culture. So people do not do such things, privacy actually still exists, even in the public space you don't take photos of people and share them. Also an other important one: people don't usually talk about medical issues, they are private.