So I looked into different ways of doing this and found that the easiest and lest intrusive way was to unplug one of the two hood sensors. All it does is pop up a warning that auto start is unavailable and that's it. Video goes up tomorrow showing how to do it.
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12:40 $39,000! I got a 2021 for $31,500. The difference is that I went with the base level, only adding the tow package, running boards, AT tires with the anti slip differential. I also got the Sarge Green color but that was it. I might regret not getting the air conditioner. The automatic would have cost me 3000. Forget that. And I'm glad I have manual windows and locks. Less to go wrong.
About the manual gears: it's down to upshift because physically, when you accelerate, you lean back in your seat. And when you brake, your body leans forward. Which is why downshift is up. Makes sense?
Yeah I can see that. I guess from riding motorcycles so much, up to up shift and down to down shift, is how I relate to non H pattern manuals. Got in a car one time with flappy paddles on the steering wheel and that really messed with me, think it was right to up shift and left to down shift.
@@adventure1887 I see what you mean. That being said, I also wanted to be up-is-shift/down-is-downshit before. Got a MK6 GTI with a DSG that was like that. But on track day, when you physically fight your shifter, you really wish for it to be down-is-shift/up-is-downshift. Really makes sense when you're beating the hell out of it, I guess. Pretty nice Sport S specs, by the way. I see you had regrets picking up this color. Is it easier to clean than you expected on the long run or it's a mess to deal with?
@@jaybou007 yeah this is my fourth black vehicle and it seems black always shows any imperfection more than other colors. Got scratches from tree branches that stick out like a sore thumb.
i have a 2020 JL Sport S 2 door in black and i put on 35s and fuel tritons on stock suspension and there is no rubbing. once you start modding it, you’ll fall in love with it. i traded in my 2017 JK unlimited that was fully built up and regretted it but now that i started nodding this one i love it even more.
That's what I'm hoping, cause I had my 17 jku built up just enough and now I'm starting over. The rubbing issue I was mainly worried about was at a full stuff with the sway bars disconnect. Good to know that it wouldn't be a problem.
Adventure i wish i could share a picture of mine but youtube doesn’t allow it, but honestly there is still so much clearance with my 35s and my stock JL Sport S.
@@camirhyne2697 on Instagram I'm @sal.wtf . you can see some of my previous builds and what I've got going on with this one. I should of probably put my Insta link in video descriptions lol
The JL looks very much the same size as my CJ7 I bought new in 1986. I ordered a JL two weeks ago. Took my CJ7 window sticker and said to the sales guy build me one like it. Ordered it with the 6 speed manual transmission, soft top and air conditioning. That’s it. Stuck with the old steel wheels. Cost came to a little over $32,000. That’s a far cry from my CJ7 Renegade price I paid $11,843 way back then.
the good thing about that CJ7 is its still worth about the same amount in the right condition / mods . lol I wondering if these JLs are going to be able to hold their value like some of the previous models
@@adventure1887 It’s got a good 3.6 liter 6 cylinder as long as you use super unleaded gas. Word is it suffers from pre detonation because of its high compression ratio. I use only synthetic oil too. It’s got an aluminum body which is a far cry from the CJ7 steel tub which rusted after three years.
So I've only had the 3 piece hard tops and the way the seals are designed to drain it will divert the water to the door opening when the door is open. So basically your going to get wet when entering and exiting. If you do take the T-tops, doors and rear half off becarful not to pinch the seals cause if you do it'll leak. And another down fall to the hard tops design is the gutters that are made into the seals they're larger than most and collect dirt and debris. They will need to be cleaned out regularly if you go off-road. Getting a seal gutter clogged up normally leads to leaking into the cab. Good thing the carpet is easy to remove and there are drain plugs everywhere. My previous 3 wranglers all developed leaks at some point so i just embrace it as another "jeep thing" lol
I think getting the sport Jl and installing an aftermarket diff lock and an upgraded suspension is all one needs. The Rubicon is just overpriced for what little it offers.
Good deal. 👍 all in all I'm loving it, I was and kinda still am abrasive to all the new technology in them but that's where the market is at for Jeep to compete in so. Only doing minor upgrades these JLs are a big step above the JK platform, with fitment.
Should be easy to clean though since it’s shorter smaller. My renegade is quick to rinse off. I love shorter cars. Had ram trucks before and they took forever to wash and clean.
It's amazing to me that you can get the Mercedes GLB250 for the same money. Not the same off-roader, obviously. But a four door that can seat 7. for daily drivers, etc... a much more tricked out and luxurious package. Why are Wranglers SO damn expensive?
The only thing I can come up with is they're popularity due to the heritage and how easy they are to customize. Generally used car sales dictates what new car prices are from year to year, not including luxury or custom brands that run limited quantities. As long as people are willing to pay 20k+ for wranglers out of warranty than new prices won't change cause the depreciation is low and resale is high. And since I'm one of the suckers that's on my fourth one I have to say it's probably not going to change any time soon. They are expensive but if your going to use it for what they're capable of doing and a daily driver they're worth it new or used.
Didn't know that. These wranglers have been the only "sport shift" transmissions I've had, everything else has been manual, either H patter or 1 down and 5 up. Coming from the JK's being Left - & Right+ it was a little different, but now it feels natural.
@@HooDRidEWhiteY you can get it with a manual transmission or automatic transmission. as far as i know all the automatic transmissions have the "sport-shift" option .
So its the way the gutter system is on the seals on the hard top, instead of directing the water away from the open door at pours right in your way. And over time they will clog and if you take the top on and off enough eventually they'll start leaking while the door is closed. The last 3 JKs I had all developed it eventually. I just chalk it up as just another "Jeep thing "
Those turbo models are the real deal. I had my doubts and didn't get one but when I doped mine off for service, the dealer let me take a used one as my rental and I liked it.
No leaks with the doors closed and T-tops on, yet. So the way the gutters are made, on the hard tops, they don't direct water away from the door opening. So when you open your door, while its raining, you'll have a stream of water pouring in. On the JK's the seals where finicky though, I had a 2017 that the passenger door started leaking due to the seal being closed with dirt on it , 2014 had a leak where the T-tops meet the front windshield after 2 years probably due to pulling them off so much and my 2011 T-tops leaked from being pinched 1 time so be careful with them and keep them clean and you shouldn't have any issues
From the dealerships no, at least not any of the ones I've dealt with . you have to upgrade to the Rubicon, don't know it it's offered on the Willys thou. You can get lockers aftermarket for it though, the ones I was looking at are the ARB brand and they're around 950 USD.
I'm not an expert on it and they have different configurations, but from what I know base modle sport with auto Trans has a Dana 35 with m200 axle rear and m185 front. The sport S has Dana 44 rear with the option for the M220 lsd.
Yeah guess it depends on the situation as to how a passenger can get back there. I pulled the rear seat out to make room for the dogs and extra gear so its a 2 seater now.
WHAT! $39K!!!!! They are robbing us. I bought the sport s last year, 2019 JL 4 door. Same opinions you have for the same price. It is fun to drive etc. but I guess we are living in a different time to pay these “ average “ prices.
Yeah I got my first wrangler in 2011 and its was only 26800 out the door seems like every year it goes up. But atleast the used market trends the same way so they don't depreciate as quick as other models.
Bought a used jk rubicon and love it. But, I love most all jeeps. Great Jeep!!! Had a 2012 2 door rubicon looked similar. Seems Jeep’s have a lot of pointless needless tech.
Yeah I had a 11 model and it was manual everything, think after 15 you had to special order one of you wanted manual door locks and windows cause I never saw them on the lots.
Honestly asking. Why complain about features you selected yourself? Like heated seats, heated steering wheels, Dual climate control etc. These are all things you selected no?
I was going for the satire angle playing off of the purist point of view. Lol It was hard to find an earlier jk with power windows and door locks and now it's hard to find one that's all manual. Some think the more jeep tries to add luxury items as standard equipment, the less they focus on the off road capability, which isn't true. It was 15 degrees out yesterday so ya I love the heated seats and auto start.
@@adventure1887 Ahh i see thanks for clarifying. Well your jeep looks great in all black and hardtop. And the mud stain adds character so keep it on haha
Right. I think my biggest bias is that I went from a 2017 unlimited, the was mildly built up, to a stock 2 door. Once I start building this one out I'll definitely feel different about it, cause after I built up the 2011 2 door I had it was a completely different vehicle.
yeah, i really don't like the start stop. I wonder if there's a way to turn that shit off completely?
So I looked into different ways of doing this and found that the easiest and lest intrusive way was to unplug one of the two hood sensors. All it does is pop up a warning that auto start is unavailable and that's it. Video goes up tomorrow showing how to do it.
@@adventure1887 cool. thanks
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12:40 $39,000! I got a 2021 for $31,500. The difference is that I went with the base level, only adding the tow package, running boards, AT tires with the anti slip differential. I also got the Sarge Green color but that was it. I might regret not getting the air conditioner. The automatic would have cost me 3000. Forget that. And I'm glad I have manual windows and locks. Less to go wrong.
Who needs AC, that's why the top and the doors come off. Lol
@@adventure1887 I agree unless I lived in the South. But I live in Wisconsin!
@@tacitus7 yeah I grew up in GA , live in TN, and have never seen AC as an "option" on a new vehicle. Its a must have.
I bought a 2018 4-door Sport S. I took my front air dams off and added 33's. It's so comfortable to drive and still amazing offroad.
Great review.
I just bought this car brand new 2020 a few weeks ago. Same color and all. I love it.
I got my first one in 2011 and have had one ever since they definitely have me hooked. Build videos coming soon for easy mods and custom work.
About the manual gears: it's down to upshift because physically, when you accelerate, you lean back in your seat. And when you brake, your body leans forward. Which is why downshift is up. Makes sense?
Yeah I can see that. I guess from riding motorcycles so much, up to up shift and down to down shift, is how I relate to non H pattern manuals. Got in a car one time with flappy paddles on the steering wheel and that really messed with me, think it was right to up shift and left to down shift.
@@adventure1887 I see what you mean. That being said, I also wanted to be up-is-shift/down-is-downshit before. Got a MK6 GTI with a DSG that was like that. But on track day, when you physically fight your shifter, you really wish for it to be down-is-shift/up-is-downshift. Really makes sense when you're beating the hell out of it, I guess.
Pretty nice Sport S specs, by the way. I see you had regrets picking up this color. Is it easier to clean than you expected on the long run or it's a mess to deal with?
@@jaybou007 yeah this is my fourth black vehicle and it seems black always shows any imperfection more than other colors. Got scratches from tree branches that stick out like a sore thumb.
i have a 2020 JL Sport S 2 door in black and i put on 35s and fuel tritons on stock suspension and there is no rubbing. once you start modding it, you’ll fall in love with it. i traded in my 2017 JK unlimited that was fully built up and regretted it but now that i started nodding this one i love it even more.
That's what I'm hoping, cause I had my 17 jku built up just enough and now I'm starting over. The rubbing issue I was mainly worried about was at a full stuff with the sway bars disconnect. Good to know that it wouldn't be a problem.
Adventure i wish i could share a picture of mine but youtube doesn’t allow it, but honestly there is still so much clearance with my 35s and my stock JL Sport S.
@@camirhyne2697 on Instagram I'm @sal.wtf . you can see some of my previous builds and what I've got going on with this one. I should of probably put my Insta link in video descriptions lol
July 2021. Best review!
The JL looks very much the same size as my CJ7 I bought new in 1986. I ordered a JL two weeks ago. Took my CJ7 window sticker and said to the sales guy build me one like it. Ordered it with the 6 speed manual transmission, soft top and air conditioning. That’s it. Stuck with the old steel wheels. Cost came to a little over $32,000. That’s a far cry from my CJ7 Renegade price I paid $11,843 way back then.
the good thing about that CJ7 is its still worth about the same amount in the right condition / mods . lol I wondering if these JLs are going to be able to hold their value like some of the previous models
@@adventure1887 It’s got a good 3.6 liter 6 cylinder as long as you use super unleaded gas. Word is it suffers from pre detonation because of its high compression ratio. I use only synthetic oil too. It’s got an aluminum body which is a far cry from the CJ7 steel tub which rusted after three years.
09:30 I love that part, uphill 2wd off road... it just goes to show that you can do a lot without all the fancy and expansive tricks of a rubicon.
Hi, do all these models leak when It rains? I don't have a garage. Thanks
So I've only had the 3 piece hard tops and the way the seals are designed to drain it will divert the water to the door opening when the door is open. So basically your going to get wet when entering and exiting. If you do take the T-tops, doors and rear half off becarful not to pinch the seals cause if you do it'll leak. And another down fall to the hard tops design is the gutters that are made into the seals they're larger than most and collect dirt and debris. They will need to be cleaned out regularly if you go off-road. Getting a seal gutter clogged up normally leads to leaking into the cab. Good thing the carpet is easy to remove and there are drain plugs everywhere. My previous 3 wranglers all developed leaks at some point so i just embrace it as another "jeep thing" lol
Thanks for your reply
I think getting the sport Jl and installing an aftermarket diff lock and an upgraded suspension is all one needs. The Rubicon is just overpriced for what little it offers.
Finally trading in my 2012 Jeep Wrangler sport 2 door. I question same things you are Brother. Hope I don’t regret it
Good deal. 👍 all in all I'm loving it, I was and kinda still am abrasive to all the new technology in them but that's where the market is at for Jeep to compete in so. Only doing minor upgrades these JLs are a big step above the JK platform, with fitment.
Great presentation. Thank you from Vermont
Should be easy to clean though since it’s shorter smaller. My renegade is quick to rinse off. I love shorter cars. Had ram trucks before and they took forever to wash and clean.
It's amazing to me that you can get the Mercedes GLB250 for the same money. Not the same off-roader, obviously. But a four door that can seat 7. for daily drivers, etc... a much more tricked out and luxurious package. Why are Wranglers SO damn expensive?
The only thing I can come up with is they're popularity due to the heritage and how easy they are to customize. Generally used car sales dictates what new car prices are from year to year, not including luxury or custom brands that run limited quantities. As long as people are willing to pay 20k+ for wranglers out of warranty than new prices won't change cause the depreciation is low and resale is high. And since I'm one of the suckers that's on my fourth one I have to say it's probably not going to change any time soon. They are expensive but if your going to use it for what they're capable of doing and a daily driver they're worth it new or used.
6:54 Thats actually the correct way. If you look at any Porsche with a PDK transmission, that is how they do it also.
Didn't know that. These wranglers have been the only "sport shift" transmissions I've had, everything else has been manual, either H patter or 1 down and 5 up. Coming from the JK's being Left - & Right+ it was a little different, but now it feels natural.
@@adventure1887 does this mean we can't get this jeep with a regular old manual transmission?
@@HooDRidEWhiteY you can get it with a manual transmission or automatic transmission. as far as i know all the automatic transmissions have the
"sport-shift" option .
Is the roof really leaking every time it rains?
So its the way the gutter system is on the seals on the hard top, instead of directing the water away from the open door at pours right in your way. And over time they will clog and if you take the top on and off enough eventually they'll start leaking while the door is closed. The last 3 JKs I had all developed it eventually. I just chalk it up as just another "Jeep thing "
No mine doesn’t
Had a '18 JLU Sport S. Traded it for a Grand Cherokee (nice vehicle, but..) traded that today for a 2 door JL Sport S. 2.0 hardtop.
Those turbo models are the real deal. I had my doubts and didn't get one but when I doped mine off for service, the dealer let me take a used one as my rental and I liked it.
Love it man!
Thanks!
Are you saying the roof leaks?
No leaks with the doors closed and T-tops on, yet. So the way the gutters are made, on the hard tops, they don't direct water away from the door opening. So when you open your door, while its raining, you'll have a stream of water pouring in. On the JK's the seals where finicky though, I had a 2017 that the passenger door started leaking due to the seal being closed with dirt on it , 2014 had a leak where the T-tops meet the front windshield after 2 years probably due to pulling them off so much and my 2011 T-tops leaked from being pinched 1 time so be careful with them and keep them clean and you shouldn't have any issues
@@adventure1887 Thanks for clearing that up, The only thing stopping from pulling the trigger on a two-door is I can't get a fishing pole in it.
@@johnmckenna4256 I actually just went fishing today and it is cramped. Getting ready to do a DIY roof rack video with rod tube on the side.
I have heard, you can get the sport with a rear locking diff, is that true?
From the dealerships no, at least not any of the ones I've dealt with . you have to upgrade to the Rubicon, don't know it it's offered on the Willys thou. You can get lockers aftermarket for it though, the ones I was looking at are the ARB brand and they're around 950 USD.
@@adventure1887 Willy's comes with an LSD
I want one so bad, possibly an unlimited sport s though.
dana 44 back and 30 in front?
I'm not an expert on it and they have different configurations, but from what I know base modle sport with auto Trans has a Dana 35 with m200 axle rear and m185 front. The sport S has Dana 44 rear with the option for the M220 lsd.
Excelent your review...so natural and honest... thanks you!
You shouldn’t get in the back on the driver side. Much easier from the passenger side. 3:00
Yeah guess it depends on the situation as to how a passenger can get back there. I pulled the rear seat out to make room for the dogs and extra gear so its a 2 seater now.
WHAT! $39K!!!!! They are robbing us. I bought the sport s last year, 2019 JL 4 door. Same opinions you have for the same price. It is fun to drive etc. but I guess we are living in a different time to pay these “ average “ prices.
Yeah I got my first wrangler in 2011 and its was only 26800 out the door seems like every year it goes up. But atleast the used market trends the same way so they don't depreciate as quick as other models.
Bought a used jk rubicon and love it. But, I love most all jeeps. Great Jeep!!! Had a 2012 2 door rubicon looked similar. Seems Jeep’s have a lot of pointless needless tech.
Yeah I had a 11 model and it was manual everything, think after 15 you had to special order one of you wanted manual door locks and windows cause I never saw them on the lots.
Honestly asking. Why complain about features you selected yourself? Like heated seats, heated steering wheels, Dual climate control etc. These are all things you selected no?
I was going for the satire angle playing off of the purist point of view. Lol It was hard to find an earlier jk with power windows and door locks and now it's hard to find one that's all manual. Some think the more jeep tries to add luxury items as standard equipment, the less they focus on the off road capability, which isn't true. It was 15 degrees out yesterday so ya I love the heated seats and auto start.
@@adventure1887 Ahh i see thanks for clarifying. Well your jeep looks great in all black and hardtop. And the mud stain adds character so keep it on haha
2.0 L engine ?
I have the 3.6l. I did test drive one of the 2.0l turbo models and it was quick (for a jeep) on the street.
u should’ve stayed with jk.......my JL is amazing
Right. I think my biggest bias is that I went from a 2017 unlimited, the was mildly built up, to a stock 2 door. Once I start building this one out I'll definitely feel different about it, cause after I built up the 2011 2 door I had it was a completely different vehicle.
If you wanted more room you should have got a 4 door. :)
Yeah traded my 17JKU for it, that what happens when you bring them wife with ya, but its what's she wanted cause of our first jeep was a jk.
If you were that unimpressed with the 2 door why would you pay for it and drive off the lot. Quit bitching about it