@NorseMythology-pv1eg Wake up for fact, please? A lot of jews in Israel & other countries r against what Israel Gov has bn doing to Palestinian. Even former IDF revealed truths & against Israel gov. Even former Israel politicians r against what Netanyahu gov has bn doing to Palestine.
its not about winning necessarily, that would be nice. but before that happens, the green party will need to get 5% of the popular vote, to qualify for upgraded party status and federal election funding, THEN they will be sett up for a win. voting green is about playing the long game, instead of sucummbing to short term fear tactice of the Dem and Republican parties@@David-vf5rf
“Even when there is no prospect whatsoever of their being elected, the workers must put up their own candidates in order to preserve their independence, to count their forces, and to bring before the public their revolutionary attitude and party standpoint. In this connection they must not allow themselves to be seduced by such arguments of the democrats as, for example, that by so doing they are splitting the democratic party and making it possible for the reactionaries to win. The ultimate intention of all such phrases is to dupe the proletariat. The advance which the proletarian party is bound to make by such independent action is indefinitely more important than the disadvantage that might be incurred by the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.” Karl Marx and Frederick Engels “Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League London, March 1850.” The argument for voting against left-wing or socialist candidates on the grounds that they can’t win and are therefore helping the right wing into power has, of course, been a time-worn argument in the United States against bucking the two-party system. Engels, in an 1893 letter to an American colleague, pointed out that in the United States, the formation of a workers’ party is hindered by the "Constitution…which makes it appear as though every vote were lost that is cast for a candidate not put up by one of the two governing parties.
Thanks Dr Cornell ❤ for the powerful message , it’s not only about Palestine but for the purpose of humanity , freedom and justice around the world. 🇵🇸
The Son of GOD will Rise in the WEST & Set in the East with Jill Stine opening the doors in too the LIGHT of Peace (at the White House) to become The NEW House To BE UNITED by GOD❤️😇❤️
Don't just vote, mobilize like the original commenter does. One vote won't make a difference. But getting everyone at a protest voting for peace certainly will.
@yadadameen He's getting my vote! Seeing as Genocide Jo has lost so many voters, essentially handing the election to Trump , WE HAVE TO RALLY FOR CORNEL ! or else it's Trump the nightmare continues! The corporate media will not help us so we have to do it without them!
@@eddie7780 What are you talking about? What is your position sir? Are you for innocent people or are you for racist, fascist people? I'm not being challenging to you I'm simply curious.
RIP Rachel Corrie. I’ll never forget Patti Smith’s tribute to Rachel at Democracy Now’s 20th Anniversary celebration years ago that is still posted on their YT channel. Patti’s impassioned performance, that also lifts up peace activists across the board, should to be seen & shared far & wide to help keep the flame of humanity & equality burning. It’s still so relevant today.
shout it loud, the people of the west hate our governments, we have been lied to for so long, divided by fake culture wars, but we know now, and change is coming.
It is rare to find orators these days who are willing to just stand up and give a speech from the heart. Thanks for your honesty and integrity Prof. Cornel West.
He really is an amazing public speaker. Such passion and integrity behind his words and I didn't see a script or a teleprompter. Blows Old Joe and Dumpy Trumpy so far out of the water it isn't even close.
@@SolutionsWithin Yeah, I wish we had someone in Canada like that to vote for, too. But we probably don't have a Federal election until late 2025 anyway, so we'll be well aware of the results of the US election before that, and if a miracle happens and Cornel West or Jill Stein or Claudia De La Cruz either win or get significant support, that could really change the scene in Canada. Maybe Green party of Canada will get more inspiration and support or a newer 'third' party speaking truth to power may rise up, something like the Ubuntu Planet party that did try it out in Canadian elections but found they needed community support in the One Small Town method before any political party movement could be successful.
@@SolutionsWithin I get that. Makes sense in many ways. NDP won in Manitoba for Provincial leadership after too many years of regressive conservatives. It would be nice to see NDP get a chance at Federal leadership. However, would also be nice to see Greens get more seats and they have similar visions and platforms as NDP so could support policies like Guaranteed Livable Income, Housing for All, expanded Universal healthcare, education and renewable energy transformation as well as worker co-ops and unions.
@@SolutionsWithin Maybe the 3 anti-war humanitarian candidates will give options to every voter who are disgusted by corporate pro-war Dems and GOP party members. Cornel West is running independent and apparently that means he can be a write in vote in up to 39 states. But don’t feel too bad if you’ve raised your kids conservative, you changed for the better and so can they. I think with the right community cooperative strategy it can really bring people together. Take a look at One Small Town with Michael Tellinger. What do you think of the potential of this initiative?
Thankyou Sir Cornel🙏😇...your speech was the truth💯...loved all of it❤️❤️❤️ May God bless you 😇🤲🙏We want a free state of Palestine 🇵🇸 & definitely equality & it's security. No matter what💯👍🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️ ...much love from India 🇮🇳❤️🇵🇸
Thanks Mr Cornell.... what a powerful speech.... thank you for standing up for humanity...what a powerful voice.... FREE Palestine.🇵🇸 From Cape Town ... South Africa.🇿🇦
Cornel would be happy to influence the people and lose the bid for the Presidency if the voters gave the nod to Dr. Jill Stein for the Green Party or Claudia De La Cruz for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, who were both at that same rally and very much stand up against genocide and for freedom of Palestine.
Although I too will vote for Cornel West, unfortunately you are correct. He will never get elected. The United States was established by imperialists from Britain that arrived on these lands seeking dominance, not freedom. These people will never secede to live and peace. Peace does not beget profit. These people bred from a lineage of evil, only want power, money, and resources for themselves, only. After WWII when attacking sovereign nations was made illegal, by the Geneva Convention, they designed methods to covertly overthrow governments by inventing and creating terror groups, interfering with elections, inciting revolts against leadership who stood up for their own people and not for big businesses in America and the West who made horrible deals with those nations that benefited big businesses, only. Like Exxon-Mobile. If an overthrow was not successful, they use SANCTIONS to starve a nation. These nations fall into squalor and despair and the people of those nations despise the very leadership that attempted to distance themselves from America. Either the people rise up and elect a puppet pretending to be a savior placed there by America. Or they walk away from their nation and arrive to the very nation that put their own country in despair seeking a dream that is actually a nightmare. Evil is EVIL.
Agreed but instead we have Joe Biden who aids the genocide and can't even speak coherently. It's ridiculous beyond words. And our media says "Biden's the only candidate who can beat Trump" lies and it's plain as day
@@user-td1me4tv3u and what makes you sure of the future? Trump and Biden are bleeding support at an incredible rate. Trump will likely be in jail and Biden is known as a genocide supporting elderly man with dementia.
@@danielvalleduarte the dnc was just sued for voter suppression. So hopefully this trend continues and they place everyone on the ballet. But if not, can't it still be a write-in? I hope so
Don't let them lie to you with "the only possible winner is Biden". There's a large number of us who are fed up and want a new president who actually has morals and intelligence.
I was there and I wish we had a short peoples section so I could watch this legend speak live! And all the other legends and heroes, too! #longlivetheintifada #freepalestine #endisraelioccupation #thereisonlyonesolutionintifadarevolution
First I thought this guy doesn’t look very distinguished. But after 3 minutes of hearing him talk, I say professor Cornel West is one of the most distinguished living persons I know of. Kudos to you sir
This speech brought tears of joy and sorrow. West as POTUS would be great if only to have the 1st President to give passionate speeches in his customary jive talk :)
It’s not only about Palestine to be free anymore. It’s now a global obligation to establish a sovereign indigenous Palestine like it was pre 1948. Without true freedom there is no future, without future there is no hope.
Cornel has my vote. Hes been consistent hes been brave. He has the charsima to succeed. I was unsure between him and marrianne and jill stein but its clear now that he stands with the most American of Americans
I haven't followed Cornell west in the past as I didn't even know much about him, but he seems to be the only sensible and decent person in American politics. I mean in for decades and decades
Calling out Biden and chums as war criminals. Respect.
Get the good Professor on the ballot in every state and VOTE for peace, justice and sanity.
Is it possible?
@@___beyondhorizon4664G.W. Bush graduated from Yale. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE…
Thank you Cornell for standing for justice and freedom for the Palestinians❤❤❤
@NorseMythology-pv1eg
Soulless 😮
@NorseMythology-pv1eg
Israel has never been a democracy yet.
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
@NorseMythology-pv1eg Wake up for fact, please? A lot of jews in Israel & other countries r against what Israel Gov has bn doing to Palestinian. Even former IDF revealed truths & against Israel gov. Even former Israel politicians r against what Netanyahu gov has bn doing to Palestine.
@NorseMythology-pv1eg poor you and sympathies for those who has to rely on your judgement
This will only make us more adamant and persistent in our boycotts. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you professor Cornel west and millions of thanks to anyone who stands against tyranny everywhere.
Extremely powerful statement❤
This worldwide tsunami for the decades long oppressed Palestinians can't be stopped!
❤Palestine🇵🇸
Thanks so much Dr Cornel West the right choice of better American and a better world
Bravo Professor
This man got my vote! President West 2024!
The lobby won't allow someone like him to win unless the American had another opinion @@David-vf5rf
its not about winning necessarily, that would be nice. but before that happens, the green party will need to get 5% of the popular vote, to qualify for upgraded party status and federal election funding, THEN they will be sett up for a win. voting green is about playing the long game, instead of sucummbing to short term fear tactice of the Dem and Republican parties@@David-vf5rf
“Even when there is no prospect whatsoever of their being elected, the workers must put up their own candidates in order to preserve their independence, to count their forces, and to bring before the public their revolutionary attitude and party standpoint. In this connection they must not allow themselves to be seduced by such arguments of the democrats as, for example, that by so doing they are splitting the democratic party and making it possible for the reactionaries to win. The ultimate intention of all such phrases is to dupe the proletariat. The advance which the proletarian party is bound to make by such independent action is indefinitely more important than the disadvantage that might be incurred by the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.”
Karl Marx and Frederick Engels
“Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League
London, March 1850.”
The argument for voting against left-wing or socialist candidates on the grounds that they can’t win and are therefore helping the right wing into power has, of course, been a time-worn argument in the United States against bucking the two-party system. Engels, in an 1893 letter to an American colleague, pointed out that in the United States, the formation of a workers’ party is hindered by the "Constitution…which makes it appear as though every vote were lost that is cast for a candidate not put up by one of the two governing parties.
Thanks Dr Cornell ❤ for the powerful message , it’s not only about Palestine but for the purpose of humanity , freedom and justice around the world. 🇵🇸
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
The Son of GOD will Rise in the WEST & Set in the East with Jill Stine opening the doors in too the LIGHT of Peace (at the White House) to become The NEW House To BE UNITED by GOD❤️😇❤️
Vote for Dr Cornell.
This the only potential American president that won’t give military aid and money to Israel.vote for him
🤣🤣 America will always support Israel no matter who's its President.
#bidenharris2024
Totally agree 💯
No More money for Isra HeII
Don't just vote, mobilize like the original commenter does. One vote won't make a difference. But getting everyone at a protest voting for peace certainly will.
@@onemustlivefreenobody’s going to vote for no damn Biden
@@5islands A blue wave is coming, and y'all will try but can't stop it. 🌊😁
Throughout the years, Dr. Cornell has acknowledged the plight of Palestinians in most if not all of his lectures.
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
@yadadameen He's getting my vote! Seeing as Genocide Jo has lost so many voters, essentially handing the election to Trump , WE HAVE TO RALLY FOR CORNEL ! or else it's Trump the nightmare continues! The corporate media will not help us so we have to do it without them!
He has nothing to say apart from bombastic rhetoric.
We are either all equals as fallible human beings, or not. And if they feel comfortable doing it to the Palestinians, then everyone else is fair game.
While ignoring his own people at home by hitching his wagon to his MASTER in the Democrat party.
Can't wait to vote for him 👏🏾
He's the only candidate with a moral compass
Cornell West is the kinda of Christian I admire and want to emulate!
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
Great respect for Cornell West. He has been unapologetically moral and courageous on Palestine. Thank you ❤
Freedom for Palestine ❤❤❤❤insha allah 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The attitude, expression, and knowledge he has is beyond the regular person.
He is good as speaking, I don't know about his honesty but I would vote for him by his speech alone
Cornel West for president 2024
💯💗
*Absolutely, absolument, 💯 قطعآ*
Dr cornel West will never be president ever.
Go make it happen please!
No candidate has the balls standing by Palestinian
❤❤❤✅👍
Good luck and congratulations for speaking out the truths Professor Cornel.
❤❤❤
As a Palestinian A
American I thank All African Americans and South Africa for standing with Palestinians in their plight against injustice 😊
In our Millions and Billions we stand with the Palestinians.
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
lol
@@eddie7780 is that lol in agreement of the human spirit or the rejected ones cold dead hearted campaigns against human lives?
@@eddie7780 worried! You should be. No more stolen land and houses.
@08Daim trust me no one is scared of this kook.
@@eddie7780 What are you talking about? What is your position sir? Are you for innocent people or are you for racist, fascist people? I'm not being challenging to you I'm simply curious.
Brilliant to the point powerful and passionate. Thank you sir ❤
Preach my brother, preach!!
💯💯👏👏👏👏
Thank you profesor Cornel,God bless you❤❤❤❤❤
Powerful speech im actually speechless ❤✌🏼🇵🇸
*THANK YOU SOUTH AFRICA AND YEMEN*
🙏🏻🇵🇸💗🙏🏻🇵🇸💗
*and Professor Cornel West*
Thank god, there are people like him in the world- I hope love wins.
Very strong message
Thank you to Rachel Corrie (RIP)
For always standing for Palestine since More than 20 years ago
👑💯🇵🇸😭😭
RIP Rachel Corrie
We miss you
RIP Rachel Corrie. I’ll never forget Patti Smith’s tribute to Rachel at Democracy Now’s 20th Anniversary celebration years ago that is still posted on their YT channel. Patti’s impassioned performance, that also lifts up peace activists across the board, should to be seen & shared far & wide to help keep the flame of humanity & equality burning. It’s still so relevant today.
If I was American I would vote for the Professor
Cornel West needs to be president 2024
💯
We’re going to try and get him in
I will for you too
He has my vote
He has my vote
This man is awesome ❤
Thank you Professor Cornel West.Thank you for being the voice of voiceless people in Palestine ❤
and EVEN in U.S.
God, hear our prayers. Peace to the world. 🇵🇸
The world now knows the truth. so very sorry. Palestine We are with you
shout it loud, the people of the west hate our governments, we have been lied to for so long, divided by fake culture wars, but we know now, and change is coming.
It is rare to find orators these days who are willing to just stand up and give a speech from the heart. Thanks for your honesty and integrity Prof. Cornel West.
He really is an amazing public speaker. Such passion and integrity behind his words and I didn't see a script or a teleprompter. Blows Old Joe and Dumpy Trumpy so far out of the water it isn't even close.
@@SolutionsWithin Yeah, I wish we had someone in Canada like that to vote for, too. But we probably don't have a Federal election until late 2025 anyway, so we'll be well aware of the results of the US election before that, and if a miracle happens and Cornel West or Jill Stein or Claudia De La Cruz either win or get significant support, that could really change the scene in Canada. Maybe Green party of Canada will get more inspiration and support or a newer 'third' party speaking truth to power may rise up, something like the Ubuntu Planet party that did try it out in Canadian elections but found they needed community support in the One Small Town method before any political party movement could be successful.
@@SolutionsWithin I get that. Makes sense in many ways. NDP won in Manitoba for Provincial leadership after too many years of regressive conservatives. It would be nice to see NDP get a chance at Federal leadership. However, would also be nice to see Greens get more seats and they have similar visions and platforms as NDP so could support policies like Guaranteed Livable Income, Housing for All, expanded Universal healthcare, education and renewable energy transformation as well as worker co-ops and unions.
@@SolutionsWithin Maybe the 3 anti-war humanitarian candidates will give options to every voter who are disgusted by corporate pro-war Dems and GOP party members.
Cornel West is running independent and apparently that means he can be a write in vote in up to 39 states.
But don’t feel too bad if you’ve raised your kids conservative, you changed for the better and so can they.
I think with the right community cooperative strategy it can really bring people together. Take a look at One Small Town with Michael Tellinger. What do you think of the potential of this initiative?
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Standing in solidarity forever
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Till river 2 sea 🇵🇸
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!!!!
Love u professor
Thankyou Sir Cornel🙏😇...your speech was the truth💯...loved all of it❤️❤️❤️ May God bless you 😇🤲🙏We want a free state of Palestine 🇵🇸 & definitely equality & it's security. No matter what💯👍🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️
...much love from India 🇮🇳❤️🇵🇸
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE AND THE WEST BANK
🙏🏻🇵🇸❤️🖤🤍💚
Vote Cornel West 2024!
Thanks Mr Cornell.... what a powerful speech.... thank you for standing up for humanity...what a powerful voice.... FREE Palestine.🇵🇸 From Cape Town ... South Africa.🇿🇦
Vote Cornel west
Fantastic speach !! And to talk about Curtys mayfield Coltrane and Gil Scott Heron going through my heart . Free free Palestine . BDS
Well said Sir. 🙏
May Allah guide this brother and all of us ameen inshAllah and may He free Palestine ameen inshAllah. Long live Palestine 🇵🇸
Just a reminder that Dr. West is running for president under the independent party.
Run Cornel, Run
Seriously?
@@___beyondhorizon4664 as far as I know yes!
Yup, I'll be there 🇵🇸
He'd be a good sided RFK Jr ❤
Very Powerful stuff - commenting for the algorithm more people need to see this
Demmm sir! That’s strong! So powerful speech!
Amen brother ! 🙏🏼
What a man , Cornell west , you have all m'y respect and love . John Coltrane of the speech !
Sun shine bless you !
M'y dear professor !
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
This man said what I would like to say myself. Thank you. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 free Palestine 🇵🇸 free Palestine 🇵🇸 free us all from corrupt politicians.
# Free, Free Palestine ❤️🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸
Thank you Professor Cornel West for telling hard truth and for solidarity with Palestine 🙏
Justice and freedom for Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸❤️❤️
Ameen, we will never forget.
Free Palestine
Love this guy! Even though he speaks of serious things, he makes me so happy!
GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE OF JUSTICE AND MERCY ❤❤❤
Thank you sir, standing the oppressed people, free plestine
He will lose his bid for the president, but he will win the influence of the people. People hear and remember.
I will Vote for him !!! I hope he will be President
Cornel would be happy to influence the people and lose the bid for the Presidency if the voters gave the nod to Dr. Jill Stein for the Green Party or Claudia De La Cruz for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, who were both at that same rally and very much stand up against genocide and for freedom of Palestine.
Although I too will vote for Cornel West, unfortunately you are correct. He will never get elected.
The United States was established by imperialists from Britain that arrived on these lands seeking dominance, not freedom. These people will never secede to live and peace. Peace does not beget profit.
These people bred from a lineage of evil, only want power, money, and resources for themselves, only.
After WWII when attacking sovereign nations was made illegal, by the Geneva Convention, they designed methods to covertly overthrow governments by inventing and creating terror groups, interfering with elections, inciting revolts against leadership who stood up for their own people and not for big businesses in America and the West who made horrible deals with those nations that benefited big businesses, only. Like Exxon-Mobile.
If an overthrow was not successful, they use SANCTIONS to starve a nation. These nations fall into squalor and despair and the people of those nations despise the very leadership that attempted to distance themselves from America.
Either the people rise up and elect a puppet pretending to be a savior placed there by America. Or they walk away from their nation and arrive to the very nation that put their own country in despair seeking a dream that is actually a nightmare.
Evil is EVIL.
Thank you.
President Professor Dr. Cornell West
*Cornel. It's important to spell his name correctly if you vote for him or else the presidential vote won't count.
Wow... that speech was powerful and fom the heart? God bless you Professor West.
God bless you brother cornel
This man should be America's president
Agreed but instead we have Joe Biden who aids the genocide and can't even speak coherently. It's ridiculous beyond words. And our media says "Biden's the only candidate who can beat Trump" lies and it's plain as day
He won’t.
@@user-td1me4tv3u and what makes you sure of the future? Trump and Biden are bleeding support at an incredible rate. Trump will likely be in jail and Biden is known as a genocide supporting elderly man with dementia.
Too bad he won't be on the ballot in mist states 😕
@@danielvalleduarte the dnc was just sued for voter suppression. So hopefully this trend continues and they place everyone on the ballet. But if not, can't it still be a write-in? I hope so
He said it and he said it well.
❤free Palestine
This who my vote is going to
Human rights for all, regardless of race, nationality, creed, or color.❤❤😊😊
Amen.
Don't let them lie to you with "the only possible winner is Biden". There's a large number of us who are fed up and want a new president who actually has morals and intelligence.
Please vote for Cornel West 2024
@@yadadameen hey I'm with you. Cornel would be my first choice, but Marianne and Cenk are good too.
I was there and I wish we had a short peoples section so I could watch this legend speak live! And all the other legends and heroes, too! #longlivetheintifada
#freepalestine
#endisraelioccupation
#thereisonlyonesolutionintifadarevolution
Thank you Professor !!!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Beautiful speech, WOW !!!
Rest in power 🙏
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
15 January 1929 ~
4 April 1968⚘
Thank you for standing for justice and truth.
First I thought this guy doesn’t look very distinguished. But after 3 minutes of hearing him talk, I say professor Cornel West is one of the most distinguished living persons I know of. Kudos to you sir
Don't ever judge a book by its cover.
I was thinking that superman is dead but now he comes again and again. Justice that all
Thank you, brother Cornell, we love you!
God bless you.
WEST PRESIDENT
Gonna learn this by heart❤
WE ALL PALESTINIANS IN OUR MILLIONS AND OUR BILLIONS WE ARE ALL PALESTINIANS
#endtheoccupationnow !!!!
#calloutoppression
#ceasefirenow
This is the PRESIDENT WE need 💯
Great stuff
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤🇿🇦🤲🏼
Amazing we want this one to be in office as the president of United States of America, peace from Bogor Indonesia
Boycott 🇺🇲🇮🇱🏴 all products & services if possible. Please spread the word.
This speech brought tears of joy and sorrow. West as POTUS would be great if only to have the 1st President to give passionate speeches in his customary jive talk :)
End the apartheid !!
🫶👏👏👏Thank you 👏👏👏👏
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🫶🇧🇦
My respect for South Africa increasing day by day
It’s not only about Palestine to be free anymore. It’s now a global obligation to establish a sovereign indigenous Palestine like it was pre 1948. Without true freedom there is no future, without future there is no hope.
Oh Lord, forgive us, we have failed. Give them Justice in this world as well, give them the safety, peace & dignity we all desire for ourselves. 😪
❤❤
Thank you, Mr. West. You do sound like Dr. King. We do want you for the 2024 president. 🙏 amen 🙏
Thank you for saying the thrue
Cornel has my vote. Hes been consistent hes been brave. He has the charsima to succeed. I was unsure between him and marrianne and jill stein but its clear now that he stands with the most American of Americans
When will American politicians LISTEN to their people. Equal rights and DIGNITY for the Palestinians is the ONLY path to peace.
Freedom for Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Bravo sir❤
Love hearing him speak
I am voting for Uuuuuu ❤
I haven't followed Cornell west in the past as I didn't even know much about him, but he seems to be the only sensible and decent person in American politics. I mean in for decades and decades