_"As of January 2024, The Cabal will no longer contest The Mindsculptors' superior knowledge of cedh as a format. While we spent 2023 enjoying each other's company and taking a plurality of top cut placements at events, The Mindsculptors were studying the blade. Their 'Top cEDH cards of 2023' video was a true masterpiece, and showed us that we had entirely overlooked cards with massive and far-reaching impact, such as Brass's Tunnel Grinder. It is clear that Ian is telling us that if we continue trying to improve through playing the format, we will only punt to one of his opponents. As such, we will quit now and accept the draw."_
Its a joke. No internet bullshit, I’m sorry if it came across as mean. It was more gently teasing. Sometimes through text that doesn’t convey. Edit: still though, why the cutoffs?
I’m high af right now but I was thinking while watching this about how awesome it is to have people that record themselves talking about cedh! Both informative and entertaining and the duo I didn’t know I needed. Thank you guys so much for making my cedh journey just a bit more enjoyable
I really don’t want to see Dockside go away. Idk if it really fixes anything to ban it. Also if dockside were to be banned it would really only hurt the fringe decks and narrow the meta. Just like the discussion of the one ring - it seems like they’re making decisions that are pushing fringe decks and strategies out. I don’t think dockside should go
i think the RC needs to leave poor Dorkside alone. He's done nothing wrong. FREE BRAIDS!!!! Liberate Iona!!!!!! Restart the Engine!!!!! Bring back the Breeching of the Hulls!!!!!!!!! Fun Fact: Hullbreacher is a counter to Bowmasters!!!!! Until we meet agaiin.
you as well brother. i definitely thought of you when they were mentioning bowmasters as messing over sisay. much love, my friend. we need to game soon. @@jonaswilliams9755
Sisay probably did improve alot given we got Tyvar, Lotho, Agatha's Soul Cauldron, and of course the insanity that is Dihada, but she was by no means fringe before this year
The want to ban bowmaster has the same energy as the eant to ban every combo deck frankly it should warp the game because commander has become too greedy in resource generation
not even close, IMO. breacher was just fine. bowmasters is far worse, punishing the wrong player at the table. sheldon and casual tables that didn't play any answers to breach/wheel were the only people whining to have breacher banned.
hullbreacher only prevented extra draws, you could still draw for turn, and that is exactly what the format needs now. when breacher left the format, rhystic study became a menace. draws need to be punished, not mana dorks. @@damo9961
Unless my opponent has a "Christmas" opening hand, with multiple copies in hand. I'll steal the Bow Master rather than returning it back to its owners hand. I play a mono blue mind control in timeless, and historic with great success. Control decks are more difficult for me to interact with. Bow Master all day for me...bring him on.
Definitely don’t care about lutri lol. There’s only a handful of magic cards I have a problem with power level-wise. I’d rather have many strong cards in my format than fewer strong cards personally.
Well seeing how Ian has won several large CEDH tournaments as well as topping numerous others with various decks, I'd like to think he has the resume to talk like he knows what he is talking about 😂
Sure. Just the absolute worst vibe when it comes to magic players. Like the vibe is that they think normal people are just stupid. Enjoy life being that way. I stay away from these players and it’s not skill it’s based on arrogance over a card game.
Sorry you feel that way man. They really do share some good insight into the format! I know at times they have some moments of very dry humor that can seem insulting to those who may not be aware they are joking, but you do you dog. I recommend Play to Win and Playing with Power if you're looking for other CEDH creators 👍@@randywright7764
I was glad to see Ryan talk about deck specific discords sometimes become “inbred”. I see that happening with Atraxa. If the deck becomes too parasitic, it will be hated out of the format. With midrange being so dominant, that deck needs to be more midrange with some parasitic tendencies rather than vice versa.
Pfffft. You guys are crazy. Two mana, instant - speed win - cons that can win on top of somebody else where the setup requires having TWO whole cards in hand isn't at all busted. (Bowmasters is the only must ban imo)
Y'alls take on bowmasters is soooo wrong. Rhystic and Mystic IS the problem, bowmasters is just punishing those draw engines and other greedy players. It's only a problem due to greedy players. Just because it's annoying doesn't make it a bad card. There are much worse cards that still exist in cEDH that no one complains about. It's easy to play around (just remove it)
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_"As of January 2024, The Cabal will no longer contest The Mindsculptors' superior knowledge of cedh as a format. While we spent 2023 enjoying each other's company and taking a plurality of top cut placements at events, The Mindsculptors were studying the blade. Their 'Top cEDH cards of 2023' video was a true masterpiece, and showed us that we had entirely overlooked cards with massive and far-reaching impact, such as Brass's Tunnel Grinder. It is clear that Ian is telling us that if we continue trying to improve through playing the format, we will only punt to one of his opponents. As such, we will quit now and accept the draw."_
I think if Ian didn't spend all day cutting sleeves off of his shirts, he'd find the time to eat outside of podcasting
it's true, can't even be mad 😅
Plus he’d have time to work on those noodle arms
@@amaraleksandr2645 does this really feel like a necessary comment?
Its a joke. No internet bullshit, I’m sorry if it came across as mean. It was more gently teasing. Sometimes through text that doesn’t convey.
Edit: still though, why the cutoffs?
I’m high af right now but I was thinking while watching this about how awesome it is to have people that record themselves talking about cedh! Both informative and entertaining and the duo I didn’t know I needed. Thank you guys so much for making my cedh journey just a bit more enjoyable
Surprised Lotho didn't make either of your top multi colored cards. Perhaps it's just Bowmasters holding it down
I really don’t want to see Dockside go away. Idk if it really fixes anything to ban it. Also if dockside were to be banned it would really only hurt the fringe decks and narrow the meta. Just like the discussion of the one ring - it seems like they’re making decisions that are pushing fringe decks and strategies out. I don’t think dockside should go
Galadriel’s Dismissal is cracked and should be an honorable mention. 12:57
Lotho was a great card for this year.
i think the RC needs to leave poor Dorkside alone. He's done nothing wrong. FREE BRAIDS!!!! Liberate Iona!!!!!! Restart the Engine!!!!! Bring back the Breeching of the Hulls!!!!!!!!! Fun Fact: Hullbreacher is a counter to Bowmasters!!!!! Until we meet agaiin.
I love how I immediately knew who this was based on the comment. 😂
I hope you're doing well, my friend. ❤
you as well brother. i definitely thought of you when they were mentioning bowmasters as messing over sisay. much love, my friend. we need to game soon.
@@jonaswilliams9755
i was telling sharky brass tunnel grinder would be lit in tevesh kraum fr
That british guy intro is LEGIT!
2:06 my birthday was yesterday I just turned 38 same as Ferris Bueller thanks guys 🎉🎉 making me feel it today
If rhystic study were to be banned, we would just see blue farm 3x more. Rhystic study should not be banned. I would definitely be upset if it were.
Sisay probably did improve alot given we got Tyvar, Lotho, Agatha's Soul Cauldron, and of course the insanity that is Dihada, but she was by no means fringe before this year
Kutzil is the best card Sisay got
The news about Sean angel was sad. And all my friends told me borne was bad. I’m glad I was vindicated
The want to ban bowmaster has the same energy as the eant to ban every combo deck frankly it should warp the game because commander has become too greedy in resource generation
Resource punishing is fine. Punishing every creature on the board regardless of who controls it is not.
Reprint fierce 6 more times??? GAME PIECES!
What is the cabal?
A group of cEDH players that builds decks
@@sealionsss2561 good ones?
So I have a question, was Hullbreacher more oppressive than how bowmaster has been?
yes, but barely and also in a very different way
If bowmasters prevented the draws too. That's how stupid hullbreacher was
not even close, IMO. breacher was just fine. bowmasters is far worse, punishing the wrong player at the table. sheldon and casual tables that didn't play any answers to breach/wheel were the only people whining to have breacher banned.
hullbreacher only prevented extra draws, you could still draw for turn, and that is exactly what the format needs now. when breacher left the format, rhystic study became a menace. draws need to be punished, not mana dorks. @@damo9961
Unless my opponent has a "Christmas" opening hand, with multiple copies in hand. I'll steal the Bow Master rather than returning it back to its owners hand. I play a mono blue mind control in timeless, and historic with great success. Control decks are more difficult for me to interact with. Bow Master all day for me...bring him on.
See you in Chicago.
calahan how is atraxa a parasitic deck, plz explain in next vid... gg at mox masters
Guff rewrites history is a really solid red card
Hot take: unban everything but the 5 moxen, flash, and time vault probably.
you sure you want to play vs tinker?
I ain’t scared! 😤
@@davidew345lutri?
Definitely don’t care about lutri lol. There’s only a handful of magic cards I have a problem with power level-wise. I’d rather have many strong cards in my format than fewer strong cards personally.
Tinker!??
7 minutes in, and it’s very clear y’all think you’re smarter than everyone and are pretty high on yourself.
“Do not suggest activated”
Well seeing how Ian has won several large CEDH tournaments as well as topping numerous others with various decks, I'd like to think he has the resume to talk like he knows what he is talking about 😂
Sure. Just the absolute worst vibe when it comes to magic players. Like the vibe is that they think normal people are just stupid. Enjoy life being that way. I stay away from these players and it’s not skill it’s based on arrogance over a card game.
This is the third video I’ve watched and they’ve all felt this way.
Sorry you feel that way man. They really do share some good insight into the format! I know at times they have some moments of very dry humor that can seem insulting to those who may not be aware they are joking, but you do you dog. I recommend Play to Win and Playing with Power if you're looking for other CEDH creators 👍@@randywright7764
You should see them in a pod. Don’t you dare disobey or else you’ll be shamed back to the hole you crawled out of.
UU instant - counter target land or spell.
I have no clue who the person they are talking about in the begging
So hear me out: to protect your creatures from Bowmasters just play old school Vigor. 3GGG is perfectly playable right?
Algorithm comment. Thanks for content.
I was glad to see Ryan talk about deck specific discords sometimes become “inbred”. I see that happening with Atraxa.
If the deck becomes too parasitic, it will be hated out of the format. With midrange being so dominant, that deck needs to be more midrange with some parasitic tendencies rather than vice versa.
Pfffft. You guys are crazy. Two mana, instant - speed win - cons that can win on top of somebody else where the setup requires having TWO whole cards in hand isn't at all busted.
(Bowmasters is the only must ban imo)
First?
Y'alls take on bowmasters is soooo wrong. Rhystic and Mystic IS the problem, bowmasters is just punishing those draw engines and other greedy players. It's only a problem due to greedy players.
Just because it's annoying doesn't make it a bad card. There are much worse cards that still exist in cEDH that no one complains about. It's easy to play around (just remove it)