Met Nathan a few times in Girona, super sound dude. That is a seriously nice looking bike. But Shoddy buddy you just bust my eyes with that focusing 😵💫
Nathan is such a cool guy, I could listen to him talk bikes all day, he has a natural ability to be in front the camera! What you did with Sagan recently is a typical Peter Sagan interview, "car crash" Every time i start to watch a Sagan interview I know what I'm going to get, incoherent nonsense, and it's not a language problem!
good interview! I like the idea of gravel and everything, but I don't like when the industry pushes you to buy certain things that you don't necessarily need. The gravel championships proved something, and that is you don't need to buy "gravel specific groupset" or a gravel frame, IF YOU WANT A LIGHT GRAVEL BUILD. Most frames have enough tire clearance to accommodate 35's which is a decent size for light gravel and you can go by with a road Medium cage or long cage derailleur with a 34 or bigger cassette. Maybe if you want to go even more gravel'ish a 650b wheelset would give that frame more clearance for bigger tires. It all depends, but what i want to see is flexibility in between this two bike disciplines, at the end its just a bike with two wheels right?
I think a lot of normal riders have overcompensated with gravel bikes. I like how the popularity of gravel made a lot of people think about the fact that they don't need an uncomfortable racing bike to go out for some long rides and that taking some unpaved roads is great. But now I see tons of gravel bikes with big tires that spend most of their time on pavement or very smooth gravel - not even close to using the full offroad capability of them. An endurance roadbike with 32mm tires is plenty capable for what most people actually demand of them.
To have a road bike that accommodates 35mm tires i would have had to spend a fair few thousand on a new road bike where as I only spent $700AUD on a 2016 Focus Mares for my gravel bike....might have spent a little bit more on some upgrades in the past few weeks :D
@@craigblowfield8821 yeah and thats good! But for those who already have a road bike or two with plenty of clearance like me, and want to join a local gravel group for the occasional light ride then they are not doomed. One example is the Trek Domane and the 2021 Emonda, two frames with plenty of clearance, same carbon as the Checkpoint (gravel frame) i have the Emonda and can fit 35’s in it, i need a 1x crankset though, some protection tape and thats it. My LBS will order some 650b wheels for another customer so i am going to check with them to see if i can fit 40+ in my Emonda 🤔
@@alannkevin not that I have a lot of gravel experience at this point but for gravel I wouldn't really consider 35mm as being 'plenty of clearance'. I'd see the maximum of your frameset clearance as being more of a starting point for gravel.
1:19 Well said Mr. Haas - this BS "elite world championship" of gravel is so shameful. that road riders get on their BS bikes and think they have any idea what gravel is actually about - this event as a complete sham. These people racing didn't have to qualify for this event at all - Lets see some gravel riders here . not roadies looking for a free 3rd or 4th "rainbow jersey"
Mattia de Marchi raced the course in the M19-34 age group. He was 24th in that age group, and was over 15 minutes slower than anyone in Italy's elite team. 40 minutes slower than Vermeersch. He's an accomplished gravel rider, but based on the results I don't think team Italy was wrong to leave him out from their elite team.
This is why American gravel races turned away UCI because they are determined to do a smash and grab and ruin the sport and they already have with the first UCI gravel race. Stick to the road. Gravel is its own.
once you can put 38c tires on a race bike, like a canyon ultimate or giant tcr, why bother gettin a gravel bike. why have a 20lb bike when you can ride one thats 15lbs. gravel bikes r done son
38c might be too narrow for rugged gravel. There isn't much speed penalty for wider tires. Bottom line tires all depends on the route and sometimes a 45 may be best. Plus the short wheelbase on road bikes make them less stable on loose surfaces. Also the gravel bike is a more relaxed geometry, so for long endurance events unless you have great flexibility like a pro it isn't gonna be comfortable or even fast to be in a position that becomes painful halfway through.
@@daryl4841 Yep I spend 45's on slate rock terrain and it's a good balance with road & rain. Disagree on geo, tire width feels ok but diameter ends being enormous which forces long geometry so all adult frame sizes use the same 700 wheel size so my small frame has the same wheel as a 2 meter body complexion frame, for me it's evident which body to geo ratio feels more confortable and maneuverable.
Nathan Haas gets it.
This interview is the spirit of gravel
Definitely one of the best, most thoughtful interviews I’ve seen, thanks
More of this. Unfiltered banter is very refreshing.
love that Hass called out he BS that the Gravels course was. the fact that they all ran regular road bikes tells the story about that course.
Great work, Shoddy! NPH is a wonderful everyman like all of us on bikes. Such a relatable person.
He ain't too bad a bloke is he - dave
Bike Path World Championships!
Two great legends Shoddy and Nathan !
First time I have seen an interview with Haas. That Colnago is primo. 👍👍
Great insights. Shoddy's always entertaining. Love the Lucky 13 shirt.
The T-shirts are available over at CyclingTips.com. Lovely quality too ;) - Dave
Met Nathan a few times in Girona, super sound dude. That is a seriously nice looking bike. But Shoddy buddy you just bust my eyes with that focusing 😵💫
Yeah, the camera was playing up. I had to use a 20mm lens as my trursty12-60 decided to break moments before filming.
Nathan is such a cool guy, I could listen to him talk bikes all day, he has a natural ability to be in front the camera! What you did with Sagan recently is a typical Peter Sagan interview, "car crash" Every time i start to watch a Sagan interview I know what I'm going to get, incoherent nonsense, and it's not a language problem!
Great interview!
That is a fine looking groupset.
Great interview. But could you fix the audio? Too much left right separation.
I agree with Haas. There should have been a qualification process.
More Haas on gravel videos!
Haasy + Shoddy = Good content.
Not sure who edited this video, but well done.
yeah, spot on about gravel racing.
good interview! I like the idea of gravel and everything, but I don't like when the industry pushes you to buy certain things that you don't necessarily need. The gravel championships proved something, and that is you don't need to buy "gravel specific groupset" or a gravel frame, IF YOU WANT A LIGHT GRAVEL BUILD. Most frames have enough tire clearance to accommodate 35's which is a decent size for light gravel and you can go by with a road Medium cage or long cage derailleur with a 34 or bigger cassette. Maybe if you want to go even more gravel'ish a 650b wheelset would give that frame more clearance for bigger tires. It all depends, but what i want to see is flexibility in between this two bike disciplines, at the end its just a bike with two wheels right?
I think a lot of normal riders have overcompensated with gravel bikes. I like how the popularity of gravel made a lot of people think about the fact that they don't need an uncomfortable racing bike to go out for some long rides and that taking some unpaved roads is great.
But now I see tons of gravel bikes with big tires that spend most of their time on pavement or very smooth gravel - not even close to using the full offroad capability of them. An endurance roadbike with 32mm tires is plenty capable for what most people actually demand of them.
To have a road bike that accommodates 35mm tires i would have had to spend a fair few thousand on a new road bike where as I only spent $700AUD on a 2016 Focus Mares for my gravel bike....might have spent a little bit more on some upgrades in the past few weeks :D
@@craigblowfield8821 yeah and thats good! But for those who already have a road bike or two with plenty of clearance like me, and want to join a local gravel group for the occasional light ride then they are not doomed. One example is the Trek Domane and the 2021 Emonda, two frames with plenty of clearance, same carbon as the Checkpoint (gravel frame) i have the Emonda and can fit 35’s in it, i need a 1x crankset though, some protection tape and thats it. My LBS will order some 650b wheels for another customer so i am going to check with them to see if i can fit 40+ in my Emonda 🤔
@@alannkevin not that I have a lot of gravel experience at this point but for gravel I wouldn't really consider 35mm as being 'plenty of clearance'. I'd see the maximum of your frameset clearance as being more of a starting point for gravel.
Next "UCI bikepacking championship" on a road bike.
i do bikepacking on road bike 😂
Oof, that G3X is 🔥🔥
Will we see that colorway to the public??
Head over to Nathan's socials, you can ask him there. He's had some lovely CX-3's this year. - Dave
This man speaks truth.
You know when you have made it when white towels are for cleaning sealant )
Hotel life
The Romans built nice roads in Italy 2000 years ago. Next time hold the race in Iceland.
Lucky you were knocking on the correct door or you might have been chased
😂😂
I made sure I double checked before hand!! - Dave
"Gravel Worls Champs 2022"
The UCI gravel "world championship" was not a real gravel race
1:19 Well said Mr. Haas - this BS "elite world championship" of gravel is so shameful.
that road riders get on their BS bikes and think they have any idea what gravel is actually about -
this event as a complete sham. These people racing didn't have to qualify for this event at all -
Lets see some gravel riders here . not roadies looking for a free 3rd or 4th "rainbow jersey"
problem is, if you mix gravel riders and pro roadies, the gravel riders are going to tend get the shit kicked out of 'em, anytime, anyplace.
Where is he buying his rim liners for $20???
Mates rates! - Dave
Stan's Dart plugs are better. Well said Nathan about this easy course being not representative of what you would encounter in the US.
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Mattia de Marchi raced the course in the M19-34 age group. He was 24th in that age group, and was over 15 minutes slower than anyone in Italy's elite team. 40 minutes slower than Vermeersch. He's an accomplished gravel rider, but based on the results I don't think team Italy was wrong to leave him out from their elite team.
@@delayclose5012 I see, sorry for my comment it was ignorant I will delete it immediately.
Classic UCI bullshit...
Nathan said exactly what the rest of the world feels about the UCI & gravel. The whole thing felt self serving to the Euro's.
Lol bro that was not gravel race
This is why American gravel races turned away UCI because they are determined to do a smash and grab and ruin the sport and they already have with the first UCI gravel race. Stick to the road. Gravel is its own.
leave us alone. hmmphh. *crosses arms
The rainbow jersey should had gone to someone who ride gravel race all the year. Not to someone who normally race road only.
Why? First over the line gets the jersey surely?
..why? Way to gatekeep "the most chill bikesport of all time".
Nathans problem? He’s a Haas been.
once you can put 38c tires on a race bike, like a canyon ultimate or giant tcr, why bother gettin a gravel bike. why have a 20lb bike when you can ride one thats 15lbs. gravel bikes r done son
Rocky downhill on 38's might as well buy an e-wheelchair
38c might be too narrow for rugged gravel. There isn't much speed penalty for wider tires. Bottom line tires all depends on the route and sometimes a 45 may be best. Plus the short wheelbase on road bikes make them less stable on loose surfaces. Also the gravel bike is a more relaxed geometry, so for long endurance events unless you have great flexibility like a pro it isn't gonna be comfortable or even fast to be in a position that becomes painful halfway through.
@@daryl4841 Yep I spend 45's on slate rock terrain and it's a good balance with road & rain. Disagree on geo, tire width feels ok but diameter ends being enormous which forces long geometry so all adult frame sizes use the same 700 wheel size so my small frame has the same wheel as a 2 meter body complexion frame, for me it's evident which body to geo ratio feels more confortable and maneuverable.
Just buy cx bikes
@@tharifdzulfiqar789 I did and before having to go a hospital I got a strong 45c gravel