Words Of Radiance Review and Discussion
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That sequence when Kaladin jumps in the arena to aid Adolin, carried through to when Kaladin finds out Adolin has been waiting in prison with him, is my favorite sequence of the entire series so far.
I agree but oh my God I cringe so hard when Kaladin asks for his boon
Claire Cunfer yeah, major facepalm haha
@@CLAYZERFUL that part was painful!!!! I didn't want him to get in trouble!
OH MY GOSH ME TOO!!!!!!😄😄😄😄😄🤩🤩🤩🤩
it's also not just the fact that it happened, but the whole pacing of the arena scene before even Kaladin jumps in is so good and painful to read first time through. I literally jumped out of my bed flailing when Kaladin finally spoke. Such great pacing, my god
Kaladin diving into the arena for Adolin got me SO HYPED when I read it, ugh. So good
That scene was one of my favorites
this scene is SO GOOD, but I gotta admit the force of that 'asking for boon' whiplash almost got me obliterated lmao and now even though that whole fight is one of my favourites I can't divorce it from what happens next
I was in the car listening to it and had to pull over because I was screaming, "YAAAASSSSS! YES! YESSSSS!"
I was running up and down the aisle I was while at work just “come on KAL, get INTHERE, GET IN” Just cuz I knew he had to pop in.
YES fam. That’s when i knew Adolin and Kaladin were gonna be besties
When Adolin killed Sadeas I thought it was really funny because he did it super impulsively then a few seconds after he’s like “aww shittt I’ve got to cover this up” and he’s just scrambling around like a maniac like chucking the murder weapon out the window.
I loved Jasnah coming back. The moment where Wit/Hoid strikes a pose waiting for her to come through is hilarious
"Elhokar is Dalinar's Tien" definitely ky favorite part of the book that had me tear up. Also the part with Shallan and Kal in the chasms. When Kal realized she is just as broken as him.
Yeah, I just finished a reread of WoR and was surprised to find myself getting emotional at that scene in the dueling grounds. He finally realizes what Elhokar means to Dalinar
I got emotional during the scene where Elhokar opened up to Kaladin, I need an Elhokar interlude or a POV chapter.
@Day I learnt to live with it.😭😭😭
@Day Mines not 😭😂 I am reading Oathbringer for the first time and... I am an emotional wrack right now (around one third left)
@Day I still have around 250 pages left but it’s the German version so it’s a lot thicker I think! I‘m doing fine or… maybe not really, I’m so scared for the characters it’s just so exciting and dangerous and awesome 😭😂 Kal, Adolin, Schallan and Azure are still in… i don’t know the English word, it’s Schadesmar in German… the world of the sprens. And Dalinar is in Urithiru again and he’s in danger and I have a bad feeling about it😂 I think about joining the 17th shard community to have someone to speak about the books before I burst, so yes that’s my emotional situation😂
An example of what I love about Sanderson: Here's a death rattle from Way of Kings (Note: the chapter when Shallan and Kaladin emerge from the chasms is named "True Glory")
“They come from the pit, two dead men, a heart in their hands, and I know that I have seen true glory.” -Kakashah 1173, 13 seconds pre-death. A rickshaw puller.
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WOW. Just- WOW
Wow. That is an excellent detail
Crap
Omg
THIS GUY OMFG THIS FUCKING GUYS
You skipped over Kaladin saying the words?!?! That's one of the most epic scenes I've ever read in a book!
And rescuing Dalanar from the sky... after finishing the video I skipped through the video trying to find those parts cause i couldn't believe they missed it
Yeah!!!!! That part was AWESOME!!!!
princessthyemis Lol same! The narrators are awesome. I had so many moments where I shouted “wOoOoOoO!!!” throughout all three books.
You forgot to mention Dalinar's AHA moment with Amaram. That scene had me jumping and hollering, seeing Amaram get outplayed and shown for what he is.
When Kaladin jumped into the arena after no one else would help Adolin I literally punched the air and yelled “YES”
And then the fact that Adolin demanded to be imprisoned just as long as Kaladin 😭 ughhh this books gives me all the feels!
thats true love
That was my reaction when i saw Jasnah is alive. I love her so much !
@@xarmanhsh2981 To me it was too obvious that she was still alive so I didn't have a great reaction but still her talking to Hoid was really interesting to read
@@wooshbait36 at this point i didnt know if sanderson was a serial killer or not. I was so happy to see her alive.
Same 😭😭🤝🏼💞 they give me soo much joy
I love that when Kal talks to Dalinar, it's always with a bit of respect, though Kal still stands up for himself, and Dalinar always responds with respect as well. God I love them both.
Yeah! I was so happy that Kaladin was treated with respect by SOMEONE after all he endured in the first book!
So with Jasnah's resurrection, where Shallan says "you could stab me and I would probably survive", I always read that as when Jasnah "died", she didn't know about how their powers worked properly. She started learning about how Stormlight and stuff works as the book went on. By the time she says that, she's not thinking consciously about Jasnah, and so it doesn't occur to her to doubt it. When Jasnah is first "killed", she completely believes that Jasnah is dead because she doesn't understand the scope of their powers, but by the time she realizes how much power she has, she's not thinking enough about Jasnah to doubt whether Jasnah really died.
I honestly always believed Jasnah to live and I bumped my fist when she talked with Wit
Jasnah was too good a character to kill off this early. So I was never worried that she was really dead. I knew she would come back for sure.
@@Kal_Al_Thor same thing for me, also her being in the cover of oathbringer didn't help my scepticism lol
Corey mimicking Kate reading’s voice doing any male character was spot on lmao
His imitation of Michael Kramer’s Elokhar is also spot-on!
Kaladin calls Dalinar "SIR" rather than "brightlord" because everyone he's ever called brightlord had betrayed/disappointed him. So even though Adolin doesn't know it, when Kaladin calls him brightlord, it's not a sign of respect.
OK this is freaking me out I literally finished reading Words of Radiance, look for reviews expecting the ones from when the book came out... And I stumble upon an hour long discussion from Merphy posted a few hours ago!???
you two have great chemistry, you should consider getting married.
Lol
Lol
Haha
Good one!
Haha 😂
I have gotten my little Sister (12 years old) to read the Cosmere. After the Mistborn trilogy, secrect history, & Warbreaker, I reluctantly introduced we to Way of Kings (knowing it’s harder to get into)
She struggled with the first half but burnt through the end & took 2 months to finish WoK altogether. But then in the last week she’s finished Words of Radiance & starting last night & this morning she’s 100 pages into Oathbringer.
She loves it & im so proud & happy of her!
Wish my sister actually tried my book recs
Then show elantris 10th anniversary edition
Then arcanum unbounded and lastly white sand comic and if u giys really love it then brandon has kickstarter project right now so for 10 us dollar u can get a new digital stormlight novella
I got my older sister to read Mistborn, which she loved.. and then DNF’d Hero of Ages 🤯
She moved on to Way of Kings, and then.. DNF’d Words of Radiance 🤯🤯🤯
We don’t talk anymore 😄🙃
She's 12 and she's reading something this thick and complex?! Whoa!! That's impressive! I definitely wouldn't have been able to read such a TOME when I was 12...
@@luketufts6827 I hope she got grounded. Jk, everyone has a taste that is different.
I love the Kate Reading narration for "No apologize! Boots!"
The thing with the blade catch is that it is harder to do for normal people, but stormlight increases speed and reaction, so it should be much easier for Kal to do than a normal soldier.
I guess Jasnah's original "death" included her vanishing in front of Shallan's eyes. What we don't know is how Shallan reacted to that in the original draft that made the Betareaders think it was too obvious that she wasn't dead and Shallan didn't notice that, but I agree that with the proper reaction on Shallan's part it probably would have been better. Like "That was weird and I have no clue what was going on there, but I can't tell her parents that her daughter vanished into thin air, maybe she soulcast herself? But why?" etc.
Can't actually watch, but wanted to make sure to give this a boost, because I'm excited for this when I'm caught up.
Same im only halfway through part one of book 1 so...long journey up ahead
@@analyzationm I have about 150 pages of WoK left right now, but like 6 weeks left before my hold on the next book is expected to be available... 😬
same, but for me it's cause I'm reading wot, so can't get into this one rn
Great discussion / reaction. Why did you skip over the ending though? The whole Kaladin finally says the words, gets Syl back, confronts Moash & foils 2 assassins etc etc. Even the bridge men glowing at the end & Lopen starting to regrow his arm could have gotten honorable mention.
To add onto the Jasnah death scene not being as originally intended: at first, Sanderson didn't _want_ to kill and resurrect her, because he didn't want to use that trope, but the book was just refusing to come together well with Jasnah present (you mentioned in the video some ways it'd be different), so he ended up going with killing her because he just NEEDED to get her out for a while.
After the Jasnah death scene, when she did not immediately come back, I thought, "Sanderson wants to give Shallan some space to grow and be her own person." Jasnah's presence is just too strong, but she is too good a character to just kill off. Never thought she was dead.
What I don't understand is why do it with a death, though. We already knew she was "an Elsecaller" by the time she had her fake death, but the image we had of her second surge was completely fuzzy. If the book was so hard to write with Jasnah in it (and Merph was spot on about how true that is), why not just let it be her power? Shallan could see Jasnah disappear, rationalize she used her other power to do that and just keep it to herself.
"Sorry Dalinar and Navani, the ship sank, I lost track of Jasnah and made it to shore. But she is much more resourceful than I am, I'm sure she'll eventually make her way here, hell I expected to find her here already to be honest" and you can both keep Jasnah from stifling Shallan's growth in the book _and_ avoid pretending she died.
@@mordirit8727 because then Shallan would probably just be sitting around the Shattered Plains waiting for Jasnah to show up rather than thinking she has to take the initiative to save the world on her own.
Lots of great points but, dang I would have loved to see you both talk about Taravangian and the Diagram more.
Just not enough time in the world to cover it all! Haha
Shallan revealing her abilities to Dalinar had me yelping, so unexpected, well built up but unexpected.
Id like both of your take on Avatar since you're watching it together and your second time as well with your husband. Maybe somethings you caught on that you didn't before.
One thing that was very touching to me about Shallan was how her desperate need to protect others (similar to Kaladin's) took the form of like, non-magical Lightweaving: setting up her brother with a girlfriend, getting puppies for her slightly psychopathic other brother so he could learn to care for animals, telling funny stories to create the feeling of a happy family: it was creating a beautiful "lie that became true." Yeah it goes too far into annoying coping mechanism territory, but that's also her internal strength and power to heal.
Ohhh so we did convince him huhh, this is going to be a good one.
All I can say is thank you for taking the time to record an hour long discussion of perhaps my favourite book of all time. You guys are great!
Did Shallan know she could heal to that extent when Jasnah was stabbed? I thought that was something she slowly discovered later. The first thing when you discover you have healing powers usually isn't "What people that I know died in the past could have actually survived with this power?"
Literally not one second did I ever think Jasnah was dead. Then Sanderson waited til the epilogue to bring her back which I appreciated
"Like a Winters". Band of Brothers reference is always win!
They did it!
They actually did it.
Aaaaand, I watched till the end.
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Have fun!
You two look at each other with so much love and adoration. You restore my faith in humanity.
Yes, we managed to convince Korey!
Kaladin Jumping into the arena is an AMAZING part of the book, but my personal favorite scene is when Shallan reveals her abilities to Dalinar. I don't know why, but I think it's because of the gravity of that reveal to Dalinar.
One thing you guys didnt mention about Jasnah's death is that it was hinted that she didnt really die. When Shallan sees her get stabbed and then goes into her room, its mentioned that as shes crawling she expects to trip over the body but doesnt. Its subtle but indicates that theres more to it than we saw, I remember reading that and wondering if that was supposed to mean she didnt actually die, or at the very least something weird happened.
Omg when Merphy read Shallans line about Pain to Kaladin, that gave me goose bumps!
A very anticipated video! Lol so many people were excited for it
55:02 I'm of the opposite reasoning regarding Jasnahs "death". Brandon Sanderson made it easy for himself by killing of the only character that would have been able to "fix" everything. He wrote himself into a corner with Jasnah and just threw her over board (pun intended).
The second that it happened and shallan walked out and said “her body isn’t the, maybe it was dragged away.” I paused the audiobook and yelled, “hell no, she ain’t dead hahah”
If I already "deleted" a video that (when edited) is 59 minutes. Theres no way I would have gone back lol. So props to you two!
can’t wait for Oathbringer discussion, so many great moments in that book
Such a wonderful conversation. Thanks for doing this, Korey. I hope you will do this for book 3 and 4 too.
I enjoyed listening to your discussion. 🙂 My favorite scene in the book was when Kaladin jumped in to help Adolin in the arena, plus when he regained his powers and later flew to the plains to fight the assassin. I also think that there's gonna be a love triangle between him, Shallan and Adolin. Overall I'm just obsessed with this story and I'm excited to read the next book 😆
Thank you for your service Corey!!!
Wit is actual perfection, no I am not taking criticism at this time
Edit: my thing w the fakeout death here is that I’m mixed on it. The trope itself annoys me, although I do like that Shallan has to figure things out herself. I fully agree, though, on how there should’ve been a shadow of a doubt-either in Shallan’s head, or maybe not making her look so dead. I also agree with Sanderson-I don’t like that he went for more shock value than foreshadowing with this one. However... at the same time, if I’d had even a hint more foreshadowing, the scene between Navani and Shallan grieving together would not have hit as hard. And I love that scene. I do wish there was ACTUALLY something to grieve, but I think Sanderson captured a lot of emotion despite me being skeptical about Jasnah (bc so many authors use this trope). In the end, I’m of two minds with it and I honestly feel like there’s no perfect way to do it, and it’s even more imperfect and divisive than most writing, so I’d always prefer for authors to do something else and just avoid that mess altogether.
I watched it to the end! Please more of this Corey is a joy
I want that mug! It's like the entirety of the 90's with a handle!
I’m reading this book for the first time right now!!!! I’m so obsessed with your videos and you’ve inspired me to make book videos too 💛
I didn't actually think asking would help but I'm really glad you made this video. Appreciate you Corey, you added something special to this one
I just finished words of radiance and it was my first read through. And I fully appreciate this video between the two of you. I watch every one of your videos, so it felt like I was taking part in a discussion between friends of this amazing series. My friends, family and husband are not big readers, so I want to gush about books but don't have anyone to do this with. So, thankyou Merphy for this ❤️
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I love the Stormlight Archives!
I appreciate a review so much which focuses on the relationships between our characters. The chasm sequence bonding is one of my all time favorites. The way Kal and Shallan mirror each others' flaws and question their initial judgments was a beautiful read.
Phenomenal review. Far better than any other on youtube pertaining to this book. Not just robotically summarizing every chapter lol. Love that you guys discuss your opinions and what you thought of what happened and where you differed. Pretty much nailed every big point in the book besides Kaladin speaking his next oath which was one of my favorite part but i could live with that considering how well the rest of this review was. Awesome job!
I’m at around page 300 in this book and…oh my gosh! It is a non-stop page tuner. After every chapter I’m like…okay just one more, then I’ll go to sleep; OR, then I’ll start working lol! This is such a fun book that I have to admit that I could not finish this video before reading more. I had to find out for my own because I agree with everything you both say about the book. So good!
lol this book destroyed my productivity for like four days
Yesss something to listen to on my bike ride!
I watched until the end!!! Great review/discussion guys. This is just making me super pumped for book 4.
59:10 You don't have to worry about video length for me. If it's 10 hours long and it's Cosmere related, I'll put my life on hold to watch the whole thing. 😀
Hope you do this for Oath Bringer too! Would also love to hear your predictions for the next book or theories you have already :D
You should totatlly do this kind of longer video discussion more often! I love it!!!
You kidding me? I couldn't NOT watch this to the end! Amazing! As always, thank you guys so much!
This podcast format but discussing novels
You two! What a dynamic, loved every second of it! Such great perspectives, and loved the podcast vibe, perfection! Now I want y’all to go back to WoK too... and for sure Oathbringer of course. Pretty pretty please!!!!
I love when you and Cory do videos together. I hope you do more like these!!!
This was a really fun loved the video hearing all your thoughts about this was great 💕
Love your vids Merphy💛❤️❤️ Y’all did a great review!!
Thank you for this! I was nice to explore Book 2 again and hear your thoughts. The audiobooks for The Stormlight Archives are among the best I listened to in terms of narration. Kudos to Michael Kraemer and the appropriately named Kate Reading.
I'm slowly reading TWOK and watching these videos makes me more excited to hopefully finish the first three before November.
Wish I could do that! It took me 9 months to read all three, so I don't see myself being capable of that before November sadly...
Great summary of words of Radiance.....thank you. Looking forward to Oathbringer!!!
Just finished Words of Radiance as my first read-through. I absolutely loooooved it and I enjoyed listening to you two discussing it! Thanks!
Great review! I can't remember the last time I had the patience to watch an hour long book review 😃 I am already looking forward to your thoughts on Oathbringer (just finished it last week!)
Yea Korrey Joined, also loved teh review, so much hype coming in a few months, can't wait. Also proud to hear Korrey staid true to Alethi teachings
with regards to jasnah, shallan had just learned from her how to project her image as a distraction to the sailor assassins. Shallan does it, and she makes a comment about how she should be stumbling over jasnahs body in the dark but doesn’t for some reason. So it’s hinted in the chapter that something fishy is going on with her disappearance. Also wish shallan had put those puzzle pieces together and questioned if jasnah was out there somewhere.
Great video! I liked these long video discussions. You should split your discussion on Oathbringer by parts. That would be amazing!
The catharsis of Dalinar finally seeing Kaladin at the end was as strong as Thor seeing Cap with Mjolnir. So satisfying.
Man that Oathbringer discussion will be like 3 hours. AWESOME MERPHY GIVE ME MORE!!!!
Can confirm - watched to end and can also confirm - your fella is a legend mate, you jagged a good one there!! This reminds me i have to get my re-read underway myself lol..
I loved the Band of Brothers reference. Im a couple years late but it's always good to hear major winters remembered.
Agreed
You guys are so wonderful!
Joint review for Oathbringer?
Great! I need to read that at some point
Watched to the end. Your "review" makes me want to finish writing my series now because the character discussions
I love so much about this book. So many things made me actually cheer out loud while I was reading.
My favorites being Kal and Adolin finally becoming friends via the duel storyline and Kal and Shallan’s little buddy-cop journey through the chasms.
I’m reading through Oathbringer now and just...gah, I wish these didn’t take three years to come out- I’m too invested!
“things go down on the boat”
I'm currently reading The Way of Kings, but am glad you were able to convince Mr.Merphy to guest star! 😁😁 Cant wait until I'm caught up so I can watch it!
Yay! You got him to do the review!
Loved this! I hope you guys will do the same thing for Edgedancer, Oathbringer and Rhythm of War!
I agree with your discussion about Shallan calling out Kaladin. He's so good at making character hold to their perspectives with fidelity and yet still be confronted by people and circumstances that challenge them. The chasm scene is a perfect example. Both of them call each other out at times, completely sure of their own rightness, but as the reader you can see that they both make good points.
I really enjoyed the combination of your husband and you together discussion/"reviewing" a book together, and for the length of time you did (yes, I did watch through until the end, and I agree with him, WOK is only a 4 star book). i hope this happens more often!
I'm so happy you talked about the Hobber scene !! It got me too !
I love this review so much.
The killing at the end is interesting because they could have had a long winded plot to kill him or an assassin but we had two books of him outwit everyone and be two steps ahead but it’s how it happens with anger and violence sometimes unexpected and shocking
Merph: I hope somebody watches it till the end.
Me: Gosh, I wish it was longer.
You guys are so cute together! I loved WoR.
I love the podcast feel of this video
Yay! Most anticipated video of the week! ✨ Great discussion guys! I'd love to see more from both of you in the future!
Also, I'm gonna assume Korey uses memes in conversations on a daily basis and Merphy is not that interested 😂👌🏽 SHOOKETH! 😂
Love it! Can we get a live action adaptation already? So many great cinematic moments. The arena battle and final battle with Szeth are among my most anticipated to see
Gyaaahhhh. . . . watching this made me want/need to reread all of these again before Rhythm of War comes out. Kudos to you both.
I just discovered your channel recently, finished the whole Harry Potter playlist and was already thinking through that: "I wonder if she knows Stormlight Archive and if she'd love it as much as I do". Well, here we go. Thanks for brightening my day! I love listening to your reviews while at work.
You should make a list of best short books/stories! It would be great to have a recommendations for little breaks while reading a longer novel
That's a FANTASTIC idea!!!!
Loved your discussions. I super related to your partner by the way. I also listen to all Sanderson's books and when he said "I haven't actually seen the word" and checked it from your book, it was super relatable.
I also found it super funny how in the beginning of the videos you weren't too happy with his comments and opinions, but then later in the video you accepted them and welcome them super well =)
You guys are cute! loved the review!
Oh my god I 'm so bummed I haven't read this yet because a one hour video of you discussing something with your calming voice and beautifully articulated thoughts, that too with your husband is literally my DREAM :/
What in the world? I just finished reading this book and bam you release this video! That timing
Lets go you got Corey!