Carl Jung's Mind-Bending Insights on Deja vu
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Carl Jung's Mind-Bending Insights on Déjà vu
Carl Gustav Jung, the Swiss psychiatrist famous for concepts such as the collective unconscious, archetypes, and synchronicity, among others, has some interesting insights on the phenomenon of Déjà vu.
Déjà vu, a phenomenon in our modern times perceived as - a glitch in the matrix - was perceived by Carl Jung as an indication of pre-cognition and foreknowledge, as found in dreams.
In Jung's famous text entitled On Synchronicity, he writes:
"The sentiment du déjà-vu is based, as I have found in a number of cases, on a foreknowledge in dreams, but we saw that this foreknowledge can also occur in the waking state." - C. G. Jung, On Synchronicity, Para 974.
In this statement by Jung we can see that he believed that dreams can consist of content that contains foreknowledge - that is knowledge of the future.
And that Déjà vu, in this case, is a conscious remembering of the foreknowledge previously experienced in a dream prior to the event happening in real life. This is why deja vu can sometimes feel as if you have dreamed this before.
But it would seem like there are different kinds of Déjà vu, as sometimes we may feel we have dreamed this before but other times we may feel a sense that this has actually happened before.
A further look at Jung's insights on Déjà vu may illuminate our understanding. In Jung's famous text, Answer to Job, he writes:
"As always when an external event touches on some unconscious knowledge, this knowledge can reach consciousness. The event is recognized as a déjà vu, and one remembers a pre-existent knowledge about it." - C. G. Jung, Answer to Job, Para 640.
We can see from this that Jung sees deja vu as a point of correspondence between the external event and unconscious knowledge.
This points to the synchronicity of the unconscious knowledge with the consciously lived experience...
So it is as if we are living out a pre-existing narrative structure, previously unconscious, now conscious as a kind of destiny or pathway.
This experience was highlighted in Jung's recount in Africa, where he writes:
"I was enchanted by this sight, it was a picture of something utterly alien and outside my experience, but on the other hand a most intense sentiment du déjà vu. I had the feeling that I had already experienced this moment and had always known this world which was separated from me only by distance in time. It was as if I were this moment returning to the land of my youth, and as if I knew that dark-skinned man who had been waiting for me for five thousand years." - C. G. Jung, Memories, Dreams, Reflections, Page. 254
This hints at Jung's insight that some aspects of the unconscious psyche are not governed by space and time, allowing for the possibility of a synchronicity between foreknowledge and lived experience.
Jung explicitly outlines this idea in his letter to Stephen Abrams, where he writes:
"We conclude therefore that we have to expect a factor in the psyche that is not subject to the laws of time and space, as it is on the contrary capable of suppressing them to a certain extent. In other words: this factor is expected to manifest the qualities of time- and spacelessness, i.e., "eternity" and "ubiquity". Psychological experience knows of such a factor; it is what I call the archetype, which is ubiquitous in space and time, of course relatively speaking." - C. G. Jung (1957), Letters of C. G. Jung, Vol 2, Pages 398-400
We can see here that Jung's idea of the archetype is what makes this timelessness and spacelessness possible, as archetypes have a narrative structure, a definite beginning, middle, and end, and if one knows the narrative at the beginning they can know the end, or vice versa.
This is significant because it not only outlines Jung's ideas on how the archetype mediates foreknowledge but it hints at the nature of archetypes and how they influence our lives.
This idea is made clearer when Jung later writes:
"These experiences show that the factor in question [the archetype] is one and the same inside and outside the psyche. Or in other words: there is no outside to the collective psyche. In our ordinary mind we are in the worlds of time and space and within the separate individual psyche. In the state of the archetype we are in the collective psyche, in a world-system whose space-time categories are relatively or absolutely abolished." - C. G. Jung (1957), Letters of C. G. Jung, Vol 2, Pages 398-400
From Jung's insights surrounding the operation of the archetype, we can see that the experience of deja vu is a conscious insight of the point at which the unconscious archetype is being lived out in actuality - where psyche and matter are found in one and the same experience.
This opens up a radical understanding of the nature of the psyche and our experiences within it.
What do you think the significance of the Deja vu experience means?
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Can confirm! This happens to me sometimes where I'll have such a strong feeling of Deja Vu then be able to consciously anticipate the following series of events and as they happen in real-time, I will experience them as memories even though it's happening in the present. It's a weird-as-hell feeling and deeply unsettling because of the implications. I hope this made sense. Great channel btw!
This is the most relatable comment ever. Thank you! 🙏🏽
The implication is that everything is deterministic and we actually have no free will...
Now 66 years old, and having spent the last 39 years in Japan, it has been many decades since I had either a feeling of deja vu, or a similar aesthetic 'epiphany-like' feeling of connecting with the collective unconscious. I suppose it is because of my low and constantly provisional social status in Japan - an unforgivingly authoritarian and rigid hierarchy that is based more on credentialism or cronyism than meritocracy. Recently found out that there is no Japanese translation of Chomsky and Herman's 'Manufacturing Consent' , 'The Whiehall Study' and subsequent books 'The Status Syndrome' or 'Status Anxiety' are not translated into Japanese, and Japan as of the last week of January 2022, has the highest percentage of Twitter censorship by the government (25% of tweets) - mostly for comparison between the current ruling elite and that of WWII Germany.
Both Japan and China have their own unique ways of social engineering which turns otherwise social primates into herding/herded primates ... guessing based more on the conceit of Far-Eastern 'harmony' as opposed to the West's conceit of 'Individual Freedom' spawned by the protestant reformation and 'The Enlightenment'. A good book-end to 'Manufacturing Consent' is a book of short academic essays edited by Stephen Vlastos, 'Invented Traditions of Modern Japan'. Predictably, there is no Japanese translation of this book, nor even a Kindle version.
But back to the topic of this video ... intriguing, and similar to things I had thought about as an undergrad back in the states, making the transition from rote-memory biology to philosophy of science. Among my biggest influences gave included T.S. Kuhn, Karl Popper, Nietzsche, Wittgenstein, Suzuki Daisetsu, and Plato ... but upon moving to Japan and entering grad school in linguistics, the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis of linguistic relativity (any statements about 'reality' as necessarily provisional social constructs describing, and to some extent, predicting 'reality) ... and the works of Joseph Campbell - particularly his 'Power of Myth' interviews with Bill Moyers. I've also since become a big fan of emergence theory and its closely related cousins ... fractal theory and chaos theory. Big fan of the implications of mandelbrot sets as one description of reality, a dynamic totem (or archetype) if you will.
While teaching Comparative Culture classes at Japanese universities, I often began and ended the academic year with a sketch of Plato's Allegory of the Cave, and used small group discussions to allow Japanese students to explore how much this allegory fits their perception of Japanese society and psychology (a lot) - and in watching this video, could not help but to triangulate between Plato's idealism, Jung's archetypes, and Sapir-Whorf. To explore further, I would probably have to pull up Wittgenstein's Ladder and retreat (transcend) into metaphor or silence.
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Cheers from Japan, a secular land of a thousand gods ... though thoroughly captured and controlled by dark-triad power-mongers, as I suspect happens to any population beyond Dunbar's Number. The idea of a unified nation-state, in the broader sweep of history, is still a rather novel experiment, and one that I think we see unravelling before our eyes, even as I type this. - steve
Excellent and concise perception. These are things I've wondered about the culture there for quite some time, thank you for taking the time to write that as it's filled in a blank for me Steve.
Read a few Japan based novels by Eric Van Lustbader many years ago and watched Silence a couple of times.
Would you say... Comme dans l'ancien testament... Un extranjero agotado de trabajar... Avoir la belle opportunité pour... enlightenment?
@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasn't LOL. Me too! 🤣
It's all encapsulated in ...The Stranger...By Albert Camus .
@PickMe Does a bear 🐻 Shit in the woods 🪵 and Wipe his Ass with a White Bunny 🐰 🐇 ?
I always saw it as me being exactly where I should be in life
Same.
oh my god SAME
What if no matter what you do it's always on the" right path"? Doesn't that mean we have no free will?
Both!
He was a psychologist to some, but in truth he was a mystic, and psychonaut. True genius
He was all of the above.
"Jung's intelligence was terrifying" -Jordan Peterson
He was a baby armadillo and I would milk his lizard sack for a bottle of lemonade
He was not
Yes!! Definitely 💯
It is something much more - a pre cog saved my life when I was 28 - now I am doing what my life was saved for - reporting the synchronicities analyzing them to understand were they result of my subconscious with foreknowledge and/or the work of my daemon leading me to enact my destiny? The most emotinpoally fulling month of my life was December - my memoir was published in paperback and added important music videos to my TH-cam channel. I used synchronicity to make life trajectory decisions - even others have said this is folly.
This is spot on! He's the only person who comprehends and willingly explains the supernaturally coincedental and ironic experiences I have had.
@opalescentmica Years ago I had a most vivid dream (I rarely dream or remember my dreams due to having sleep apnea) so I had a dream I was standing in my driveway watching a tow truck that was lowering my car,a green Buick Lasabre on to the street at the end of the driveway. And the right side of my car was completely smashed in. I woke up and in a slight panic ran through the house out to the driveway to check my car which was fine and not damaged I then realized ok just a dream. My landlady saw I'd ran by urgently and came out to the driveway while I was out there "what's wrong?" I explained to her My dream. She laughed and we went on with our day. About 3 months later The day before Christmas the roads were wet and I lost control of my car and 180d and broadside a tree. A passerby gave me a ride home while I waited for my car to arrive. So I'm standing in the driveway awaiting the truck with my car and my land lady is standing next to me and the tow truck is lowering my car and the entire right side was smashed in. I literally exclaimed "WTF? Dejavu!" And my landlady says "Rick remember that dream you told me about a few months back?!" I'd forgotten about the dream until she reminded me in that moment thinking it was just a dejavu.A Premonition confirmed.Exactly what Jung explained.
Wow!
I almost knew what he was about to say it’s so accurate .. subconscious synchronicity with the conciseness brought about by dreams iv had them all my life some can be disturbing when you know the moment playing out & then know what’s about to occur for the following 5 to 10 seconds also on occasions I am aware & conscious I am in a dream & normaly exit the dream quickly when this occurs
“Whoever searches must continue to search until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed; and being disturbed, they will marvel and will reign over All.” - Yeshua
This is from the Gospel of Thomas, which I believe are the gnostics. This is not in the bible.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 👍🏻
Which verse is that?
Yeah. Sounds like something a gnostic would say... I hate gnostics.
I used to have déjà vu but not for many years. I haven't remembered a dream for years either. In the déjà vu's it was like looking for a word on the tip of my tongue; I "almost"knew what would happen next. It was very frustrating. I could never stop to try to find the next scene-I was pulled along against my will. Very disconcerting
Interesting.
Not just in dreams. Surely we are remembering memories from previous lives
Very well explained and presented. Our western psyches suffer from a loss of faith in the spiritual world, and Jung is a solid and trustworthy guide for us to reconnect with God. He's not unlike Virgil instructing Dante on his journey through the three states of existence.
Really interesting interpretation. I experienced them a lot as a teenager I remember…strong feelings I’d experienced the very same thing before. Unsettling things, often made me feel queasy/nauseous. Odd yet very real feeling too
The dread is about our foreknowledge of dreadful things we must go through. I realize I had foreknowledge of my crash and following pituitary surgery. I am wishing you well.
@@opalescentmica that’s a great description I’m sorry to hear you say about the meds/diagnosis. I’m of the opinion medical issues test us in many ways almost like it’s a test to see how open a person is. Like is your soul open/listening/ready…
It makes me feel quite uneasy when I see D.V. events happening, I feel like it's important to change their outcome.
I had an extended de ja vie when attempting to escape from the prison in Hermosillo Mexico - I was shot 4 times - but got a way - then the de ja vu happened - a 5 minute video that turned out to be in the future (about 10 minutes into future) I used the information to make a decision - not to run if the cops came - just let them take me. That saved my life - had I run when they came they were ordered to shoot above the waist....That was 1980...I'm still here - wrote an autobiography about that and other impossible le synchronicities that I used to guide my life - The archetype b being referred to, I feel, is my Daemon - more than merely my subconscious acting with foreknowledge....Please let me know of your experiences in this area - I would like to add them to the analysis in my forthcoming book.....
Nope. You are either rationalizing or worse... An agent of the simulation trying to stop people from waking up. You can't explain how people can know what is going to happen next with "epilepsy".
Morgan, that is amazing! I have no doubt your experience is just as you said. Truly remarkable.The person who keeps talking about medical malfunctioning to everybody’s experiences is really annoying.
You mean a demon is helping you?
Every deja vu I've had since I was around 20 has been a dream I had several months before. Here's the kicker...I always wake from the dream super confused...I've recognized the confusion upon waking is the same feeling of confusion my future self has when recognizing the deja vu as a previous dream...
Probably in dreams we can live in another timespace. One of my 4 to 5 deja vu's, it happened in a dream that I remembered 2 days before when waking in the morning.
I am 100% sure that I experienced it all in a dream and 2 days later in conscious life.
We can travel to the future in our dreams, that's for sure!
Pre-cognition in dreams is an interesting phenomenon.
Was talking about this very subject yesterday! My partner had one that morning and it made her feel very odd.
Where thought goes Energy flows..
Especially as a child i experienced many de ja vu
moments...& out of body
I was brought up in a Chritian family ...no influences of drugs...
i had a quest ...
Who am i ? why am i here? where am i going?
so many unanswered Spiritual questions. I read the Bible and i saw beyond the alchemy of ancient stories.
Dreams were VERY Powerful, often interpreted, and recorded as in Revelations.
The languages of interpretation have evloved
Miracles v Magic
live..backwards..evil
I began a life journey searching for answers,
Mostly about Energy...& the ancient knowledges including a high Light Orbing Vibrational Energy.......known for bringing Peace & Internal Healings ..
L.O.V.E
Da Ja vu
♡♡♡♡
Strange Dreams of meeting architype Light Orb beings opening my third eye & answering me telepathically.
The freedom & bliss from my body was very noticable.
Someone once told me that deja vu is a sign that your life is unfolding as it ought to. Check point passed!
What if it just means everything is already determined, everything we do is fate, and there is no changing it?
The word Alignment comes to my mind.Everything is as it should be.A friend reminded me of this from her NDE.You have just confirmed it your life is unfolding as it should.We are on the right path.That's why we have all these synchronicities.It's a rememberance (note the word "mem" from memory and the word re meaning or again and again/ backward ).Every time we see numbers,we hear certain words from people,music,animals and things that are mundane we are triggered to think in a different way.We are on the right path.Where we are meant to be.
Is the "Archetype" being referred to - Platoe's Daemon? Jung's Philomon? Socrates' Daimonion? Nietzsche's Fravasha? Captain Piccard's Q?
Deja vu is the recollection of a memory of an experience that you are or had experienced in some form of “past”. It’s very specific and exact to the moment. The phenomenon of Deja vu, for me, challenges the concept of a singularly exclusive physical reality devoid of psyche or mind. The mind is non-physical, subjective and not bounded by space, time, and the laws of physics. Yet, events in the mind manifest themselves in physical space and time as in the case of Deja vu. These memories that are recalled in Deja vu originate in dreams during sleep the night before. What originates in the unconscious dream state are either themselves conjurings of a recollection of a physical event that occurred in an unknown parallel physical reality, or is a depiction of an original event that has not manifested physically in any universe that is determined to manifest shortly in your universe. The causal nature of the latter is unknown, i.e., the foreknowledge of the event.
I once had a deja vu of a deja vu of a deja vu. It went on for a while and was mind blowing
I admire Jung, who was a major influence on me since my youth. However, I wonder if Déjà vu has a simpler explanation....I have experienced Déjà vu a number of times during my adolescent years and a bit later but not in my adult life. I wonder if it is just that during these stages of a person's life, there is a momentary failure in synchronicity in brain signals. I have noticed that during these episodes, I was sure that I had experienced what I was going through but that I could never predict what would happen next. Does anyone else agree with this possibility ?
Wise comment. I wouldn't call it "failure in synchronicity" but, perhaps "synchronicity" only, as it is. I agree with you on "stages", moments of life with maybe their, let's say, particular events of synchronicity. My experiences with déjà vu I say quite similar to yours.
I’m an adult and still experiencing Deja vu.. I believe people usually have more of them during their youth mainly because in those years people are less worried about everyday/adult stuff hence our mind was more free and not so full of responsibilities
i often have a synchronicity with words I'm thinking and what's said on the radio or t.v. this video gives an explanation for it. i thought it was proof of simulation theory.
Antenna in your head! ;-)
It may very well be
I just think precognition is just your brain or the subconscious calculating the environment and showing the most likely outcome. So it's actually opposite of what they are saying, it's very much involved in matter.
I heard it was some function in the brain , if that's so then our brains are amazing.
I have experienced deja vu many times innmy life. But the last few days were really crazy. I had several deja vu each day. On one point I was not sure if I was not dreaming. Quite creepy
Deja vu. Instant involuntary recall .
Or other times, you are not sure if you lived it or dreamt it .
There are no coincidences. They are actually synchronicities of quantum entanglement embedded into the fabric of reality from conception.
I will go with Jung because noone really has a clue but I highly doubt deja vu is just some "trivial" thing. I've had a lot lately and it's such a definite feeling, then suddenly it's gone completely. I don't like it much at all.
We have been there and done that 😮
In the mind of God as we rehearsed our part in time 🎉
When God got everything just as He wanted ,,,, He said , Let what's in Me,,, be out there 🎉
We have been there and done that ❤
Before the foundation of the world,,,,,
To me it's a feeling like ,wait a minute this same exact thing has happened exactly like this at or in another ⏲️. It's makes me think but not to much but it's a little strange when that happens.
It is much more than just our individual brain me thinks. I strongly suspect we also connect with extremely advanced ETs. This explains the supernatural events. People of religion generally call them God.
It's much much more ✨
I had a memorable incident that lasted for a few seconds. It was a deja vu followed by a solipsistic confusion , and concluded by affirming eternal recurrence. I wrote that experience in my diary because it stuck with me vividly for a week. Any insights?
@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasn't I haven't felt that way in a long time, it was during some lowest points in my life. I was on my usual rountine of escapist cycling when I came across some children playing, which was not unusual, but that day I saw the image of myself literally and vividly in those children and the deja vu and/or solipsism stung me with many warm feelings of nostalgia. And almost instantly, I had a memory/visual of my child self watching raindrops falling( I can't describe it but it felt so real with an earthy smell), and the eternal concept came to me like an epiphany : the thought with utmost certainty that there probably was an older guy similar to my current self who was watching my child self enjoying the rain, just like me watching those children playing in the first place.
All those happened within a few seconds and it was a liberating feeling, to say the least.
@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt There's always this feeling that, while I am myself during a deja vu experience (as opposed to a dissociative episode), I feel that I am seeing events play out in front of me as multiple selves. Whether these are past selves etc. I don't know. But I do think there is so much to Jung's collective unconscious theory that it is as if it floods into you at that moment. Not that it replaces you, but you are momentarily connected with a "knowing" beyond your personal knowing.
Deja vu is one thing....what is equally as mysterious and mystical is Jamais vu.
I think I've heard of this term from a chuck Palahniuk novel... I looked it up and it makes no sense to me. How can one do something they have done before? Even if it's let's say, driving to work... It's always a different day, different cars on the road, different weather...
@@g3nj1 jamais vu is the experience of not recognizing something as familiar which is supposed to be familiar to you. Like writing the word "the" and thinking it's spelt wrong or looking out of place.
Neato
I mean, I wonder if it's just a function and not something to do with reincarnation.
I played it 1.25x faster because i couldn't wait. And guess what! It made me understand this video 1.25x faster than everyone else.
Efficient.
Yeah well, I read the description (finally someone puts the transcript there! Good job channel owner!) So I read it way faster than 1.25x speed.
How do you get the transcript?
Just realized this is an old video. No one will be answering me 😊
I have had several times a OBE out of body experienc and that hase much to do whit dejavu, sins you can experiment things that you will probably Live in future while projected out of your body,
And when that sabe cenário of the future comes in front of you in de presente time then yuo hav the impresstion of a dejavu.
Correction ,he doesn’t believe, he knows.
Isa 38:8
Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down. :)
I dont believe u Ecto, I dont think u can control it ,please explain more.
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Exactly
Yogi Berra is Carl Jung all over again.⚾️
Years of many various false teachings and information overload and I'm supposed to have learned the truth from people who don't know what truth is themselves? too many beliefs confuse all beliefs unto no beliefs of any worth!
"Spacelessness"? Impossible! There is no such a thing. For there are two different kinds of spaces. There is ephemeral space, which is the space of man that can only exist temporarily, and it comes and goes very quickly. Then, there's eternal space: a space without a beginning and an end; which is the very space that allows ephemeral spaces to exist. Without this eternal space, the big bang could not have occurred. Every power and substance takes up space: including, the big bang. Hence, space had to be there first before the big bang had occurred. Therefore, there's no such a thing as "spacelessness". For without space, not even God can exist. Every existing thing, including God, takes up space.
Even scientists can conceive of other universes or being outside of our universe. You can't though?
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr My Being knows that the space that exists outside of the universe (finite entity space) is the empty space (infinite nihility space) that allows the universe to expand endlessly in it. Now, if there's another finite entity space inside the infinite nihility space, besides the one we live in, my Being doesn't know.
The big bang theory makes no sense, it's load of rubbish people listen to. People who can't think for themselves so they give away their power to someone they perceive has all of the answers. That's how they control you.
Mhm…he low key look good 🫦
Sounds like mumbo jumbo word salad with no basis in anything that is remotely science based repeatable data.
i dont believe in free will even factualy i dont think archetype more than mental instincts
1:18 yup, i would describe dejavu the same way. Im often have dreams of "normal" situations, for example like im playing cs and nothing special happes, or im sitting with friends. Often i forget these things (dreams) and some time later im reminded by them when im in that situation, wierdest thing is that when i get sense of dejavu i can "predict" what will happen in next few minutes accurately.
Having hundreds of deja vu's throughout my life, (dreams coming true) I'm now having dreams that are again coming through but only in events that have already happened, just not the way of the dream. My experience has been attributed to eplepsy.
Had deja vu many times but at first, to me, it seemed just interesting .... stuff. It all changed when I moved to the USA for a period of time and just like Jung's experience, I could not believe what was happening because I have never ever been to the USA before. Actually I have never been to any foreign country prior to this move. And the deja vus I was experiencing had 100 % "american features"
I had one last week and I have them before.
About once a year.
The vision lasts for a second or two.
However although the deja vu experience may only be a few seconds the dream which preceeded can be quite long.
Sometimes like the recent one I can remember approximately when I had the dream.
I have no explanation however two thought.
Memories are not stored in the brain. They are stored by the creator and accessed by the individual.
Nothing exists outside the creator. The creator is one and sustains all things seen and unseen from moment to moment.
Does this explain deja vu ?
No, but maybe a start.
i think it is anti-physics as feynman says we cant predict future as we effect it
I think Richard Feynman is incredible. I can see why he might say that. Just like, if you go back in time, you can't take your memory of what transpires with you, so even if you did you wouldn't remember. You're going back to a 'save-state' so it doesn't matter. You'll just keep doing the same thing.
That being said, some people can tell what will happen next, and pre-cognition does seem to happen... But can you change it anyway, even if you can see it?