Cannot express my gratitude enough for a review that immediately starts and doesn’t have a 45sec intro of a guy telling me something the title already told me. 🙏🏻
It's nice to see Philips keeping the audio side of the cheaper models better than competition. I am waiting for the 2022 models and maybe choose one from that range.
Nice to see some Philips TVs represented here. Keep up the good work and I hope to see more Philips (and TCL) models in the future :) Ambilight and Android TV got me pretty hooked 😅
Tcl build quality is bad, first tv I have had to replace because of sockets getting loose because of swapping from time to time. Wouldn't by another Tcl.
Excellent review! Thanks for giving us all of these details. It's very informative and helps us decide on what to purchase and hopefully the tv manufacturers are watching and see what they can improve on. 😎
I really wish more was done on ambilight. Having owned ambilight before I was, genuinely, shocked at the difference it made to the experience. Having moved away from it the first thing that struck me was the almost immediate fatigue I felt watching TV, a thing that I never got utilising ambilight. I thought it was a gimmick, ended up loving it, now deeply regret moving away from it. Oddly, it also made my now 75" TV feel smaller than the 65" ambilight....
Was your TV straight on the wall? I thing about buying that Philips but the TV is gonna be in the corner and Im thinking about the ambilight effect (is it gonna work?)
yea I really love how ambilight makes the screen feel bigger and actually helps with the experience. i was planning to get another tv but then realised the external ambilight implementation's quite expensive..
@@grantpaterson1016 info? isn't there a hyperion or something that runs of a pi? my issue with those systems is the splitter screwing up something along the signal chain.
Why can't we have a flagship TV across any brand that has: 1) Support for all HDR formats.......Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision IQ, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Adv HDR Technicolor. 2) IMAX Enhanced + Filmmaker Mode + Netflix Calibrated Mode + Calman Home (AutoCal) + ISF mode. 2) Native Dolby Atmos decoding + DTS X passthrough eARC (decoding wud be great too) & all major audio codec support for playback. 3) Full fat HDMI 2.1. (48 Gbps) with 120Hz 4K 4:4:4 on at least 1-2 HDMI inputs 4) Gigabit Ethernet (It is 2021 ffs !) 5) USB 3.0 (atleast 1) 6) Working VRR, ALLM & 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision gaming features. Probably need onboard FreeSync/GSync I just don't understand how FLAGSHIP models of Samsung, LG, Sony, Philips, Panasonic etc have ridiculously priced high end models that doesn't have all the above mention in ONE HIGHEND TV. Screw 8K, screw micro/mini LED, screw rollable OLED & screw the extra $ that these 3 add to the cost of the tvs.......instead give us a good FALD 4K LED TV or 4K OLED TV (Evo) with the above mentioned features.
They do it soo you upgrade your set regularly, if they have a set that does everything you won’t replace your TV’s very often meaning less revenue for them. It’s done deliberately
@@paulmelamel Not really, i mean i get what u mean by TV companies doing this certain things to make u want to buy a new upgrade.....but not in this particular instance. For example....Samsung has not had Dolby Vision ever, it's not like they offered it the year after to make ppl buy newer models. Same goes for LG not having DTS codec. Same for any brand except Sony....not taking up IMAX ENHANCED.
Excellent review as always, much appreciated. Have this TV on order and can't wait to hook it up. Your review is extremely useful... Could I please ask what settings you tweaked in order to get the best out of this TV? Thanks again
Would you be able to update your findings now that monitor mode does 4k 120 with VRR at full res since the last update? Would be interesting to see how the model compares to others with the same chipset
Thank you for everything you do for all of us TV freaks! I wish for a long time now, that you could make a Guide on how to set up the screen the best for gaming. For example on this 806 because the menu is pretty straightforward. What do you need to look at while Playing a PS5 4K HDR game? What do you disable? What about the brightness setting and HDR settings, etc, etc. Would mean the world to us gamers.
Thanks Vincent for all the great technical information on your reviews. The other channels state I like this one better over the other one not good enough for me. Thanks.
Waiting for the OLED+ 935 to arrive, Philip's flagship from last year. Highly recommend anyone who doesn't care for hdmi 2.1 to check out the deals on that TV as from this review this TV seems to work the same and you get "best TV audio" for less than a new 806.
I'm guessing the ambilight is "supposed" to be used in conjunction with the light sensor - so when it's Bright daylight ii "might" wack it out brighter and lower in the dark. But I suspect there is also other things in play here - like some people might not have their TV up against a wall or not as close as they might so having the light be able to be brighter would work there. Also of course some might like it really quite bright if gaming with the room lights off or on low. So I wouldn't critise them for having the option of it going really bright for specific use cases. It would be interesting to see if turning off eArc, ALLM and other features will enable any of the TV's on the market that can't do Dolby Vision Gaming at 120hz to manage it or is it entirely down to the limitations of the TV's processor so it's simply not fast enough to do it. It wouldn't be so bad if they made it work with frame doubling so it was processing at 60hz but Feels more like 120hz. The idea of Black Frame insertion making something go brighter is sure a novelty. Anyway this seems like a "Nice" TV - nothing class leadingly brilliant but it's certainly very comparable to some TV's that cost more from Samsung & Sony - with only the Upscaling / motion being a bit less refined. I'd be interested to see how it works more in depth with a variety of games if it really is a viable new alternative for a gaming TV or not (if you don't give two hoots about Dolby Vision Gaming not working as well as it might - which is hardly unusual) Maybe Vincent might do a Gaming setting video for it and go into more detail. Sometimes one doesn't find out the useful features for quite a while afterwards - like Samsung's pretty decent picture in picture/split screen modes that works with aps and TV channels alike or the LG "lighten dark areas" function with is a really boon for over dark videogames especially multi-player FPS games.
@@sneakyp1484 Not everyone has loads of windows in a room their TV might be in a dark corner or a windowless room. Also they might just think it look pretty - being super bright would at least make it look visible in daylight. Sure you can say it's for immersion, but it could just be because you like being artys fartly and - well some people play music on their TV so the Ambi-light can sync to that too and give you a little bit of added disco lighting,
Hello, I have a question...for hdr ps5 setup for Philips 806 is the same 14 click for MaxFFTML and MaxTML? And for black is the same value 0 for MinTML? Why my question...in HDR adjust for ps5, the sun picture hold the lines, like the Xbox adjust. Its so stranged the lines. Im from the Brazil and i like your channel. Go the infinite and beyond for you and your channel! 👏👏👏👏
near-black degradation/flashing solution : I just bought this TV and found after some trial/error that switching picture fast motion clarity to Maximum while compensating for brightness by raising oled contrast and video contrast to maximum will get rid of near-black flashing/degradation. Another way to compensate for brightness is gamma but would not touch it as it would lift the blacks as well. Also, just don't select warm color inherently found in isf and film modes. It makes it feel like sunset already while it's noon in movies.
Thanx so much for solution, however after some tests on my oled 806 55 inch I have to say fast motion clarity can be set to minimum and posterization also disappear. Now picture looks like in my previous Oled 804.
@@paweldbs glad I could be of help. I was watching a series called Dark, and the black degradation was totally gone with Maximum fast clarity, minimum and medium were good but not like maximum. Different shows might only need minimum-medium as you experienced.
@@AShaif I see, Dark show. I share with you of my investigation based on TH-cam HDR material "Miami in 8K ULTRA HD HDR - The Magic City" and similar material "Las Vegas in 8K...". I saw only difference between set "off" and "minimun". Between "minimum" and "maximum" not. However I have last question for you, do you see that menu android TV is very dark? TH-cam materials are beautiful, but menu you tube very dark, android tv menu as well..
Looking forward to vincent reviewing the Sky Glass TV hopefully soon, would love to see him show us the correct picture settings on it as the standard modes just arent up to much imo.
I own 65oled806. It is a really great TV with good picture quality. But unfortunately currently TV have bug with eARC Stereo audio return to receiver. From time to time TV stops sending sound to the receiver. Helping switch audio to tv speakers and back to hdmi, but for a really short period. Hope Philips will solve this issue in next firmware updates.
I have the same tv and same problem. When it happens, just swtich audio output to TV speakers and then back to HDMI. It fixes the problem but it will happen again when you turn off and turn on the TV again. Hope they will fix it in a firmware update
Thanks the review Vincent. Hopefully you’ll review the 936 in the future as well and maybe even a side by side comparison with A90J and LG G1. You look a bit sad in this video and there were no jokes this time. I hope everything is ok and wishing you all the best.
Man I have been Watching you for almost a year now and no matter whether you talk or read same speed and it's great because despite the accent I can understand you clearly I think it's brilliant also ur punchlines are better cuz off it 😆 🤣
Vincent, can we finnaly expect TCL C825 review soon? I have been waiting for this for months and dont buy it without your advice. Thank you very much in advance
@@hdtvtest I know, but Mr. Mark from TCL mentioned that they are ready to send you both of versions. For the UK and rest of the Europe. So, I still believe and hope that it will happen.
I have been waiting for this review and Philip's as usual are so late bringing there TVs to market, I was seriously interested in buying the 806, but I had decided to buy the Sony 75x90j for much less than the 65" 806. Thankyou Vincent once again an excellent review
big mistake if you ask me. Even the 65oled805 is much better than the 75x90j. And even better than the picture quality of sonys recent oled a90J In reallife Philips has the best picturequality since their P5 processor
So basically the only hope left for a fully complete OLED TV set in 2021 (EVO panel, both HDR 10+ Adaptive and Dolby vision IQ, both Atmos and DTS:X in TV decoding for eARC compatibility, 4k 120 with VRR and ALLM at full resolution) is the OLED+936 ? Plus it would have ambilight... I hope it performs better than the 806 :(
I was waiting for this review because I am in "struggle" to choose between LG C1 and Philips 806/856. I keep waiting for the (review of the) 936 and the price's difference with the 856...
Did you buy something im struggling too. I dont know if 936 is worth the price compare to 806/856 and also do you think 936 price will drop like 935 because it doesnt seems to.
I have the same tv and same problem. When it happens, just swtich audio output to TV speakers and then back to HDMI. It fixes the problem but it will happen again when you turn off and turn on the TV again. Hope they will fix it in a firmware update
I'd wish you'd focus more on the out-of-the-box accuracy of TV's in your videos. Many people put huge value in this, be it for mid-range or high-end TV's.
I'm not going to lie the Phillips 806 if in the US has a specific look I've been liking even in comparisons Phillips makes a better tv then some believe I remember an old led I had of there's and I koved it way back. I think the Phillips oled are a great option for people outside of the US
Hey Vincent. Can you confirm the problem that many people have when the TV gets a 4K signal with Dolby Vision and VRR the image blacks out and comes back constantly? It seems it's a problem that many have either using a PC or an Apple TV external device.
Right. So many positive professional reviews but they all seem to bypass the issues that consumers run into. I get that you cannot test everything but I’m not so sure what use all these pro reviews are if all those issues are ignored or overlooked.
Not updated mine, omg picture quality is amazing, looked at getting the lg c1, but this is better, in my own opinion, looked at both of these tvs in richersounds, playing both the same content
less brightness by 100 units (probably reduced by software), worse remote control and three-sided backlight. otherwise 706 = 806 but at a much lower price.
I m really thinking of buying the 806. Thought of the C1, but Ambilight is just too nice. Having second thoughts due to near black artifects and posterization, does anyone know if thats better on the C1? Panels are the same I think, both the same gen Oled from LG, right? Thx for help!
Any chance you can also review the 9506 miniled and compare it with the latest Oled+ & Oled models for 2021. I've been waiting for that miniled for almost a year.
Thank you very much for the review. Iam looking for this tv but iam doubting between the 806 or the 706 . For me I don't care for the ambilicht 4 . 3 is enough for me . What do you recommend? I mostly using it for the ps5 4k 120hz . Is the 706 enough ? Or spend more then 500 euro more and go for the 806 ?
Hello Vincent! First of all i just want to say that i really really enjoy your very informative and easy to follow review videos and second I'm looking to buy a new tv during black Friday this week and I'm torn between the Philips 706 OLED and the LG B1 OLED, which one would you recommend and why? Thanks in advance :)
Why do all these high-end TVs come with processor compromises? This thing should be able to handle 4K@120Hz WITH VRR but Phillips cheaped out and didn't put a fast enough processor in it. Like wtf? The TV costs thousands, it's a 2021 model. Why the fuck does it not FULLY SUPPORT all HDMI 2.1 features? Do we have to wait 2 more years for these TV manufacturers to dole out a TV that has a good enough processor to support everything? And another thing, why does it take so long for the HDMI body to finalise a HDMI spec? It's been LITERALLY YEARS, from the start of products being released to 2.1 being finalised. How it should work is the spec is fully finalised THEN products release to FULLY SUPPORT ALL FEATURES. Rather than adding a feature every year and making every TV redundant until a finalised spec is reached. Like how unorganised must the HDMI body be? The TV industry looks like a joke. TVs even flagship TVs releasing every year missing HDMI features and full support. HDMI features being added as they go rather than being finalised before TVs actually launch. It's just a massive scam to keep you buying a new TV every year just to get 1 or 2 HDMI features that SHOULD BE ALL FINALISED IN ONE GO AND ALL TVS AFTER IT'S FINALISED THAT USE THAT HDMI VERSION SHOULD FULLY SUPPORT ALL FEATURES! If I buy a HDMI 2.1 TV, it should FULLY SUPPORT all features under HDMI 2.1, without clauses. It's getting beyond a joke now.
because these big tech companies are freaking scams anymore, it’s just like sony or samung DSE or banding? tf? for $2000 tv screen should be FREE 100% if it
@@TechCody113 legit! A FLAGSHIP TV should offer perfect or near perfect performance all around. It shouldn't have basic picture quality issues or lack a basic HDMI feature.
The processor in this TV and other flagship TVs from Sony, Hisense etc is the best Mediatak offers (S900). Its advertised as an 8k processor on their website. Nobody really knows what's going on with it. Some people say it's a firmware issue and the processor is fine and others say it's a hardware limitation.
How great it would be that when people connect HDMI Arc soundbar to their Philips TV OLED (Android) the volume bar in the screen will show up when changing volume on the Philips remote. As it was in the old Philips Matchline days. The bar on the HDMI arc soundbar doesn't work either., and the "feauture" isn;t explained neither.
Vincent. Please don't ever stop talking dirty to us; we can't get enough. "Phillips is a not deploying effective countermeasures to fix near black chroma overshoot". OMG.👍👍👍
I've got the 706, which I'm pretty sure it has the same panel, and I am able to run 4K 12Bit RBG 120hz with VRR enabled with Optimal Game mode on my PC without any issues. I'm not sure why Vincent is saying that it's not possible to get full 4K using Optimal Game...
Hi, are there any side by side comparisons in the making for the philips OLED with the C1 or A80J? I can get the LG and the Sony for the same price (1700€ for 65"), but the philips 706 is 300€ less ATM, so i am wondering how much of a diference there is in overal picture quality between them. My priorities are picture quality, future proof and good sound (with or without a future soundbar ), ambielight and gaming not as much. My 13 year old Samsung 40" lcd died on me, and now i need a new one fast, meaning i have to decide fast, meaning not enough time for reviews, sadly. Anyways thanks for any suggestions.
@@sh1pkaI bought the C1. I was not able to get the a80j for the same price. If i remember correctly, at that time a80j was 200 or 300€ more expensive than the c1, and i was not ready to pay that price for the sony. For the same price i would have bought the sony, because of the better sound.
@@migfpv1790 bud at the end you didn't went for Philips, why? Right now I am thinking between Philip 706 and LG C1. At the moment, Philips is 860€ and LG 1000€. I know that LG picture quality is a liiittle bit better, but Philips has ambilight and it's 150€ cheaper
@@sh1pka Had bad experience with a philips lcd tv a long time ago, and heard bad story 3 years ago from an official philips repairman, of how philips makes the bulk of broken tvs, they get for repair, so i decided to try my luck with LG, and now i hope for the best.
Thank you for your review. I can't find news about the philips 706 version that seems to be quite similar to the 806 in terms of video characteristics. Considering that I will use an HT for audio and I think that Ambilight 3 side vs 4 side is not decisive, the 806 worth the money difference?
Can you do an Audio Comparison between PS5 and Xbox Series X for modern TVs? PlayStation5 has the new 3D audio room measurments and a 3D audio internal component. I've wondered how SeriesX compares. Is it keeping up?
Considering the 77inch as an upgrade from 65inch C9, for size and ambilight. Looked up some reviews, but it seems the 806 has less brightness and higer input lag. Is it worth the upgrade?
Can I use this TV as monitor for watching TH-cam and occasionally working from home or editing a video/using Photoshop. Probably more gaming and watching TH-cam and movies tho.
I have a dilemma LG C1 55" or Philips OLED 706 65" both cost the same here in the UK. 1200 pounds I get that the LG C1 is a best TV overall in terms of picture quality, contrast and gaming features, which is confirmed by pretty much all the reviews I have seen. But, I am wondering how that translate to the real world and how much difference there is, because the PHILIPS is 10"larger, got ambilight and better sound. So, what do you think guys?
@@IamFilipao Well, In the end, I decided to wait for the next gen and, now, I have the same dilemma. LG C2 or PHILIPS OLED807/12. Both of them are very similar. But, I think the Philips comes a bit above because of the ambilight and Andorid TV software.
was wondering as well how it was worth paying the extra over the 705/706.. but so hard to find any reviews on mid range Tvs even tho it seems to be the majority buying those.
@@hdtvtest thank you for the reply. Than, I think is best that I get a LG C1 for playing on Ps5 and Xbox Series X. What is your opinion? Is the C1 a good TV for the new generation console's? And also does it fully support 4K 120hz with VRR and ALLM enabled? Thank you
Hi Vincent. Are you able to check if the problems in this model have been resolved with the December update? TPM211EA_001.001.233.026- Date: 2021/12/14 - Fix for vertical line seen on the right side of the screen eg. OLED screensaver - Fixes for Calman color calibration functionality - Improvements for picture quality o Flickering, loss of details, frame drops o shadows around moving objects It is very important to me because I see all the disadvantages of modern OLEDs and although I would like to buy a Sony A90J, the budget limits me :-). Please
Hello @HDTVTest and everyone else :D as Vincent Teoh most likely wont reply. Is it better option to buy Philips 55 806 OLED or 65 706 OLED for ~120 euros more, when picture quality vs price is considered? Thanks!
How is the monitor mode (required for 4k120hz) different from the filmmaker mode in case of picture accuracy? I don't want to have any processing being done.
Vincent before when I played a PS5 Game my Philips 55" 806 would say VRR at the bottom, I haven't changed anything but now it no longer says it! On the Playstation it still says VRR supported. Is the TV 100% not outputting VVR when it isn't stated on the tv itself?!
I have one..great tv.except...no picture format...so netflix shows can have huge black bars l cant rid of which can cause wear on oled display as it had to kerp these areas black etc. Were is the select full screen...16:9...etc etc....why is this vital info not in reviews?
Hi, can I get your Test Pattern BluRay or Video Files anywhere or buy it? Also after calibration, the image (usually SDR) looks flat and too dark, I like calibrated accurate image but sometimes I like the colors to pop a little, but I'm struggling to make it so that the highlights are not clipping. I have the Philips 50PUS7363.
Hi guys! saw this 65" gem in shop for 1400 euros now. Does anyone know why the electric consumption is on max? (G). Is all OLEDs double the LEDS in wattage?
Cannot express my gratitude enough for a review that immediately starts and doesn’t have a 45sec intro of a guy telling me something the title already told me. 🙏🏻
This just reminded me of Tom's Hardware...always a painful long-winded intro and no meaningful content in the end....
I was so irritated, that the content started so immediatly. Got rare these days.
Amen brother!
It's nice to see Philips keeping the audio side of the cheaper models better than competition. I am waiting for the 2022 models and maybe choose one from that range.
For me, Vincent is the benchmark by which I judge every other reviewer in both knowledge and humour.
Nice to see some Philips TVs represented here. Keep up the good work and I hope to see more Philips (and TCL) models in the future :) Ambilight and Android TV got me pretty hooked 😅
Yes, happy for the review *but... it does have VRR, 40-120 Hz :)
Tcl build quality is bad, first tv I have had to replace because of sockets getting loose because of swapping from time to time. Wouldn't by another Tcl.
Excellent review! Thanks for giving us all of these details. It's very informative and helps us decide on what to purchase and hopefully the tv manufacturers are watching and see what they can improve on. 😎
At this point, if it were me leading the development of a new TV model the first thing I'd do is hire Vincent as a consultant and QA lead. 😄
I really wish more was done on ambilight. Having owned ambilight before I was, genuinely, shocked at the difference it made to the experience. Having moved away from it the first thing that struck me was the almost immediate fatigue I felt watching TV, a thing that I never got utilising ambilight. I thought it was a gimmick, ended up loving it, now deeply regret moving away from it.
Oddly, it also made my now 75" TV feel smaller than the 65" ambilight....
Was your TV straight on the wall? I thing about buying that Philips but the TV is gonna be in the corner and Im thinking about the ambilight effect (is it gonna work?)
@@vinixbrabus It will work in a corner too, I've had it wall mounted and in a corner.
yea I really love how ambilight makes the screen feel bigger and actually helps with the experience. i was planning to get another tv but then realised the external ambilight implementation's quite expensive..
@@a9fc I have a better than Philips system that cost £28....but has to run software on a TV box, Shield or, as I have, HTPC connected to the TV.
@@grantpaterson1016 info? isn't there a hyperion or something that runs of a pi? my issue with those systems is the splitter screwing up something along the signal chain.
Why can't we have a flagship TV across any brand that has:
1) Support for all HDR formats.......Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision IQ, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Adv HDR Technicolor.
2) IMAX Enhanced + Filmmaker Mode + Netflix Calibrated Mode + Calman Home (AutoCal) + ISF mode.
2) Native Dolby Atmos decoding + DTS X passthrough eARC (decoding wud be great too) & all major audio codec support for playback.
3) Full fat HDMI 2.1. (48 Gbps) with 120Hz 4K 4:4:4 on at least 1-2 HDMI inputs
4) Gigabit Ethernet (It is 2021 ffs !)
5) USB 3.0 (atleast 1)
6) Working VRR, ALLM & 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision gaming features. Probably need onboard FreeSync/GSync
I just don't understand how FLAGSHIP models of Samsung, LG, Sony, Philips, Panasonic etc have ridiculously priced high end models that doesn't have all the above mention in ONE HIGHEND TV.
Screw 8K, screw micro/mini LED, screw rollable OLED & screw the extra $ that these 3 add to the cost of the tvs.......instead give us a good FALD 4K LED TV or 4K OLED TV (Evo) with the above mentioned features.
Your comment is spot on.
I'd modify only one thing. 2) Two ports with the full bottle - but neither the ARC HDMI port! Xbox, PS5. Just saying.
They do it soo you upgrade your set regularly, if they have a set that does everything you won’t replace your TV’s very often meaning less revenue for them. It’s done deliberately
@@paulmelamel Not really, i mean i get what u mean by TV companies doing this certain things to make u want to buy a new upgrade.....but not in this particular instance.
For example....Samsung has not had Dolby Vision ever, it's not like they offered it the year after to make ppl buy newer models.
Same goes for LG not having DTS codec.
Same for any brand except Sony....not taking up IMAX ENHANCED.
@@MrAussieJR I kinda assumed that 7/10 person who wants to have a flagship TV that has it all would be using a AV Receiver/PrePro.
can you post your picture settings calibration reccomendations?
Can you post the Calibrated settings?
Yes pls!
They never do
Excellent review as always, much appreciated. Have this TV on order and can't wait to hook it up. Your review is extremely useful... Could I please ask what settings you tweaked in order to get the best out of this TV? Thanks again
Hi man, can you give me your feedback after 1 year experience ? I’d like to know more on Philips oled .. i don’t see lots of feedbacks on youtube
Thanks yet again Vincent, the last 4 TV's I bought were from your recommendations and I cannot fault them at all.
Would you be able to update your findings now that monitor mode does 4k 120 with VRR at full res since the last update? Would be interesting to see how the model compares to others with the same chipset
Thank you for everything you do for all of us TV freaks! I wish for a long time now, that you could make a Guide on how to set up the screen the best for gaming. For example on this 806 because the menu is pretty straightforward. What do you need to look at while Playing a PS5 4K HDR game? What do you disable? What about the brightness setting and HDR settings, etc, etc. Would mean the world to us gamers.
Thanks Vincent for all the great technical information on your reviews. The other channels state I like this one better over the other one not good enough for me. Thanks.
Waiting for the OLED+ 935 to arrive, Philip's flagship from last year. Highly recommend anyone who doesn't care for hdmi 2.1 to check out the deals on that TV as from this review this TV seems to work the same and you get "best TV audio" for less than a new 806.
I would really love for someone to compare both .... I am considering a very budget 8536, 806 or the 935 atm... (43,48,48)
I'm guessing the ambilight is "supposed" to be used in conjunction with the light sensor - so when it's Bright daylight ii "might" wack it out brighter and lower in the dark. But I suspect there is also other things in play here - like some people might not have their TV up against a wall or not as close as they might so having the light be able to be brighter would work there.
Also of course some might like it really quite bright if gaming with the room lights off or on low. So I wouldn't critise them for having the option of it going really bright for specific use cases.
It would be interesting to see if turning off eArc, ALLM and other features will enable any of the TV's on the market that can't do Dolby Vision Gaming at 120hz to manage it or is it entirely down to the limitations of the TV's processor so it's simply not fast enough to do it. It wouldn't be so bad if they made it work with frame doubling so it was processing at 60hz but Feels more like 120hz.
The idea of Black Frame insertion making something go brighter is sure a novelty.
Anyway this seems like a "Nice" TV - nothing class leadingly brilliant but it's certainly very comparable to some TV's that cost more from Samsung & Sony - with only the Upscaling / motion being a bit less refined.
I'd be interested to see how it works more in depth with a variety of games if it really is a viable new alternative for a gaming TV or not (if you don't give two hoots about Dolby Vision Gaming not working as well as it might - which is hardly unusual)
Maybe Vincent might do a Gaming setting video for it and go into more detail.
Sometimes one doesn't find out the useful features for quite a while afterwards - like Samsung's pretty decent picture in picture/split screen modes that works with aps and TV channels alike or the LG "lighten dark areas" function with is a really boon for over dark videogames especially multi-player FPS games.
Why would you even have Ambilight on in daylight?
@@sneakyp1484 Not everyone has loads of windows in a room their TV might be in a dark corner or a windowless room.
Also they might just think it look pretty - being super bright would at least make it look visible in daylight.
Sure you can say it's for immersion, but it could just be because you like being artys fartly and - well some people play music on their TV so the Ambi-light can sync to that too and give you a little bit of added disco lighting,
My Philips led tv has been using for 12 years, good work 👍
Hello,
I have a question...for hdr ps5 setup for Philips 806 is the same 14 click for MaxFFTML and MaxTML? And for black is the same value 0 for MinTML? Why my question...in HDR adjust for ps5, the sun picture hold the lines, like the Xbox adjust. Its so stranged the lines.
Im from the Brazil and i like your channel.
Go the infinite and beyond for you and your channel! 👏👏👏👏
Is it just me or is Vincent not feeling well during this video? He sounds somewhat down and even a bit depressed compared to his other videos.
Vincent are you going to properly test and review philips oled936 tv?
near-black degradation/flashing solution :
I just bought this TV and found after some trial/error that switching picture fast motion clarity to Maximum while compensating for brightness by raising oled contrast and video contrast to maximum will get rid of near-black flashing/degradation. Another way to compensate for brightness is gamma but would not touch it as it would lift the blacks as well.
Also, just don't select warm color inherently found in isf and film modes. It makes it feel like sunset already while it's noon in movies.
Thanx so much for solution, however after some tests on my oled 806 55 inch I have to say fast motion clarity can be set to minimum and posterization also disappear. Now picture looks like in my previous Oled 804.
@@paweldbs glad I could be of help.
I was watching a series called Dark, and the black degradation was totally gone with Maximum fast clarity, minimum and medium were good but not like maximum. Different shows might only need minimum-medium as you experienced.
@@AShaif I see, Dark show. I share with you of my investigation based on TH-cam HDR material "Miami in 8K ULTRA HD HDR - The Magic City" and similar material "Las Vegas in 8K...". I saw only difference between set "off" and "minimun". Between "minimum" and "maximum" not. However I have last question for you, do you see that menu android TV is very dark? TH-cam materials are beautiful, but menu you tube very dark, android tv menu as well..
@@paweldbs I don't get what you're referring to in"andriod tv menu and youtube menu"
@@AShaif I am talking about home screen of android tv
Finally a 77 inch Philips Oled. I'm getting this one to replace my 65 inch Philips Oled :D
Looking forward to vincent reviewing the Sky Glass TV hopefully soon, would love to see him show us the correct picture settings on it as the standard modes just arent up to much imo.
So out of the a80j, C1 and this which should I buy in 55 inch?? All have their good and bad points. This tv however does win their award!
Philips 856 because of the Ambilight Technology
I own 65oled806. It is a really great TV with good picture quality. But unfortunately currently TV have bug with eARC Stereo audio return to receiver. From time to time TV stops sending sound to the receiver. Helping switch audio to tv speakers and back to hdmi, but for a really short period. Hope Philips will solve this issue in next firmware updates.
I have the same tv and same problem. When it happens, just swtich audio output to TV speakers and then back to HDMI. It fixes the problem but it will happen again when you turn off and turn on the TV again. Hope they will fix it in a firmware update
hey, have they fixed the problem?
@@r_e_xcsgo No, and no ETA from Philips
Fixed now right?
@@andreassjodin3550 no. Issue still exist
Thanks the review Vincent. Hopefully you’ll review the 936 in the future as well and maybe even a side by side comparison with A90J and LG G1.
You look a bit sad in this video and there were no jokes this time. I hope everything is ok and wishing you all the best.
Great review and lots of information. I ordered the 55 inch yesterday for 1250 euro, imo it's a steal for that price.
Mine arrived this morning and I waited for your review for 2 weeks! I'll watch it now on my 806 55 inch
Not going well so far, warzone on XSX has stutter at 120hz, TV looks great
No VRR on 4k 120hz? But i have seen vids of people running there pc with 4k 120hz with g-sync and low latency enabled on this TV.
Man I have been Watching you for almost a year now and no matter whether you talk or read same speed and it's great because despite the accent I can understand you clearly I think it's brilliant also ur punchlines are better cuz off it 😆 🤣
Vincent, can we finnaly expect TCL C825 review soon? I have been waiting for this for months and dont buy it without your advice. Thank you very much in advance
Currently no ETA... the TCL C825 that's available to buy in the UK is not HDMI 2.1.
@@hdtvtest I know, but Mr. Mark from TCL mentioned that they are ready to send you both of versions. For the UK and rest of the Europe. So, I still believe and hope that it will happen.
Ordered the tv and it should arrive today, now it is actually the same price as a LG a1, so I am now sure this was exactly the right choice.
I have an XBox One connected to HDMI1, Monitor Mode, 4K and 120Hz doesn't work for some reason. It only allows 1440p and 120Hz. Any ideas?
Same thing here. Any clue to get 120hz and 4K?
Philips always get an award:) I wish they made 85" models
I have been waiting for this review and Philip's as usual are so late bringing there TVs to market, I was seriously interested in buying the 806, but I had decided to buy the Sony 75x90j for much less than the 65" 806.
Thankyou Vincent once again an excellent review
big mistake if you ask me. Even the 65oled805 is much better than the 75x90j. And even better than the picture quality of sonys recent oled a90J
In reallife Philips has the best picturequality since their P5 processor
So basically the only hope left for a fully complete OLED TV set in 2021 (EVO panel, both HDR 10+ Adaptive and Dolby vision IQ, both Atmos and DTS:X in TV decoding for eARC compatibility, 4k 120 with VRR and ALLM at full resolution) is the OLED+936 ? Plus it would have ambilight...
I hope it performs better than the 806 :(
Wouldn't LG G1 do it all?
No TV has built-in DTS:X decoding - only pass-through.
@@BLITZRAZOR01X yeah that's I meant to say with eARC
@@hardcore6133 No DTS passthrough and non HDR10+ :(
I was waiting for this review because I am in "struggle" to choose between LG C1 and Philips 806/856.
I keep waiting for the (review of the) 936 and the price's difference with the 856...
OLED 706!!!
Did you buy something im struggling too. I dont know if 936 is worth the price compare to 806/856 and also do you think 936 price will drop like 935 because it doesnt seems to.
@@gfgf2123 Some feature on the 807 are better then the ones in the 936. Search online or here on TH-cam.
First surely the brand new panel from LG.
@Vincent Have you experienced any HDMI/eArc issues? Seems a lot of people get sound drop outs and HDMI connectivity issues, including myself.
I have the same tv and same problem. When it happens, just swtich audio output to TV speakers and then back to HDMI. It fixes the problem but it will happen again when you turn off and turn on the TV again. Hope they will fix it in a firmware update
Had the same pb: found it was another HDMI devices that causes this... Unplugged it, replug it, and everything worked normally again ... Very bugged !
Hello, sorry for my english, i'm french. Do you know if Philips is working on an update regarding the 4k 120hz and VRR resolution issue? Thank you.
I'd wish you'd focus more on the out-of-the-box accuracy of TV's in your videos. Many people put huge value in this, be it for mid-range or high-end TV's.
Those black thin lines you demonstrated on Xbox HGiG. How are we supposed to calibrate HDR on PS5 with this?
I'm not going to lie the Phillips 806 if in the US has a specific look I've been liking even in comparisons Phillips makes a better tv then some believe I remember an old led I had of there's and I koved it way back. I think the Phillips oled are a great option for people outside of the US
In the US and outside the US, LG C1 OLED is best to buy don't even think about something else.
@@thebeast9449 no the G1
Hey Vincent. Can you confirm the problem that many people have when the TV gets a 4K signal with Dolby Vision and VRR the image blacks out and comes back constantly? It seems it's a problem that many have either using a PC or an Apple TV external device.
Right. So many positive professional reviews but they all seem to bypass the issues that consumers run into. I get that you cannot test everything but I’m not so sure what use all these pro reviews are if all those issues are ignored or overlooked.
This crushing of Dolby Vision and overal picture quality is from the latest update. Too bad the review was done with it
Yeah, I am (was) a happy 806 owner until the update.
Overall a great TV with premium picture quality in real life content
@@markdaub2942 Is it worse now?
Not updated mine, omg picture quality is amazing, looked at getting the lg c1, but this is better, in my own opinion, looked at both of these tvs in richersounds, playing both the same content
Can u please test the Input Lag with "Fast Motion Clarity" enabled?
Could you make a video about the difference between the 706 and 806?
less brightness by 100 units (probably reduced by software), worse remote control and three-sided backlight. otherwise 706 = 806 but at a much lower price.
really curious to know how these fare against the 705/6, if its worth the extra pricetag, for the screen it self for normal movie watching.
I don’t think so. In my country 806 cost 700eur more. Not worth it imo. 200-300 more for the 806 would be fare I guess.
Hi! Do you know when the announced vrr update for this tv (806 / 856 ) is coming?
I m really thinking of buying the 806. Thought of the C1, but Ambilight is just too nice. Having second thoughts due to near black artifects and posterization, does anyone know if thats better on the C1? Panels are the same I think, both the same gen Oled from LG, right? Thx for help!
Since January, this model should support 120 Hz 4K with VRR.
Does it?
Any chance you can also review the 9506 miniled and compare it with the latest Oled+ & Oled models for 2021. I've been waiting for that miniled for almost a year.
Thank you very much for the review. Iam looking for this tv but iam doubting between the 806 or the 706 . For me I don't care for the ambilicht 4 . 3 is enough for me . What do you recommend? I mostly using it for the ps5 4k 120hz . Is the 706 enough ? Or spend more then 500 euro more and go for the 806 ?
get 806 and wall mount it and put ps5 and all cables behind tv.... so all you have on wall is huge ambilight tv and nothing else.... thats my dream.
Hello Vincent! First of all i just want to say that i really really enjoy your very informative and easy to follow review videos and second I'm looking to buy a new tv during black Friday this week and I'm torn between the Philips 706 OLED and the LG B1 OLED, which one would you recommend and why? Thanks in advance :)
Здравствуйте! Какой телевизор купили? Довольны выбором?)
Why do all these high-end TVs come with processor compromises? This thing should be able to handle 4K@120Hz WITH VRR but Phillips cheaped out and didn't put a fast enough processor in it.
Like wtf? The TV costs thousands, it's a 2021 model. Why the fuck does it not FULLY SUPPORT all HDMI 2.1 features? Do we have to wait 2 more years for these TV manufacturers to dole out a TV that has a good enough processor to support everything?
And another thing, why does it take so long for the HDMI body to finalise a HDMI spec? It's been LITERALLY YEARS, from the start of products being released to 2.1 being finalised. How it should work is the spec is fully finalised THEN products release to FULLY SUPPORT ALL FEATURES. Rather than adding a feature every year and making every TV redundant until a finalised spec is reached. Like how unorganised must the HDMI body be?
The TV industry looks like a joke. TVs even flagship TVs releasing every year missing HDMI features and full support. HDMI features being added as they go rather than being finalised before TVs actually launch.
It's just a massive scam to keep you buying a new TV every year just to get 1 or 2 HDMI features that SHOULD BE ALL FINALISED IN ONE GO AND ALL TVS AFTER IT'S FINALISED THAT USE THAT HDMI VERSION SHOULD FULLY SUPPORT ALL FEATURES!
If I buy a HDMI 2.1 TV, it should FULLY SUPPORT all features under HDMI 2.1, without clauses. It's getting beyond a joke now.
because these big tech companies are freaking scams anymore, it’s just like sony or samung DSE or banding? tf? for $2000 tv screen should be FREE 100% if it
@@TechCody113 legit! A FLAGSHIP TV should offer perfect or near perfect performance all around. It shouldn't have basic picture quality issues or lack a basic HDMI feature.
That's why X900H is the perfect TV (and HDR is overrated anyway)
The processor in this TV and other flagship TVs from Sony, Hisense etc is the best Mediatak offers (S900). Its advertised as an 8k processor on their website. Nobody really knows what's going on with it. Some people say it's a firmware issue and the processor is fine and others say it's a hardware limitation.
LG 2019 oleds have it all…
Thanks for the video
How great it would be that when people connect HDMI Arc soundbar to their Philips TV OLED (Android) the volume bar in the screen will show up when changing volume on the Philips remote. As it was in the old Philips Matchline days. The bar on the HDMI arc soundbar doesn't work either., and the "feauture" isn;t explained neither.
Vincent. Please don't ever stop talking dirty to us; we can't get enough. "Phillips is a not deploying effective countermeasures to fix near black chroma overshoot". OMG.👍👍👍
I wonder if it actually supports 4k 120hz 12 bit RGB like it says it does.
I've got the 706, which I'm pretty sure it has the same panel, and I am able to run 4K 12Bit RBG 120hz with VRR enabled with Optimal Game mode on my PC without any issues. I'm not sure why Vincent is saying that it's not possible to get full 4K using Optimal Game...
Hi, are there any side by side comparisons in the making for the philips OLED with the C1 or A80J? I can get the LG and the Sony for the same price (1700€ for 65"), but the philips 706 is 300€ less ATM, so i am wondering how much of a diference there is in overal picture quality between them. My priorities are picture quality, future proof and good sound (with or without a future soundbar ), ambielight and gaming not as much.
My 13 year old Samsung 40" lcd died on me, and now i need a new one fast, meaning i have to decide fast, meaning not enough time for reviews, sadly. Anyways thanks for any suggestions.
What did you buy at the end?
@@sh1pkaI bought the C1. I was not able to get the a80j for the same price. If i remember correctly, at that time a80j was 200 or 300€ more expensive than the c1, and i was not ready to pay that price for the sony. For the same price i would have bought the sony, because of the better sound.
@@migfpv1790 bud at the end you didn't went for Philips, why? Right now I am thinking between Philip 706 and LG C1. At the moment, Philips is 860€ and LG 1000€. I know that LG picture quality is a liiittle bit better, but Philips has ambilight and it's 150€ cheaper
@@sh1pka Had bad experience with a philips lcd tv a long time ago, and heard bad story 3 years ago from an official philips repairman, of how philips makes the bulk of broken tvs, they get for repair, so i decided to try my luck with LG, and now i hope for the best.
How is the brightness compared to the LG C1?
Thank you for your review. I can't find news about the philips 706 version that seems to be quite similar to the 806 in terms of video characteristics. Considering that I will use an HT for audio and I think that Ambilight 3 side vs 4 side is not decisive, the 806 worth the money difference?
No, it's £500 more and the only upgrades are a leather remote, 4 sided Ambilight and a very, very slight bump in brightness.
Just get the 706.
@@z06dave 706 is full 4K @ 120hz?
Can you do an Audio Comparison between PS5 and Xbox Series X for modern TVs?
PlayStation5 has the new 3D audio room measurments and a 3D audio internal component. I've wondered how SeriesX compares. Is it keeping up?
So in theory only 1 HDMI 2.1 port if you're using EARC and also no 4:4:4 120 4k + DV + VRR
Thanks a lot Vincent
Is the Panel Display glossy as LG TVs or semi glossy as Sony A80 for example
Thank you very much!!! Waiting 4 this 😀. Anybody knows why subtitles are in neerlandés instead of English??
Considering the 77inch as an upgrade from 65inch C9, for size and ambilight. Looked up some reviews, but it seems the 806 has less brightness and higer input lag. Is it worth the upgrade?
Did u get any input for this?
How does this compare to 706?
100 nits peak brightness difference in favor of 806, 4-sided ambilight vs 3-sided, remote control with voice search. Thats it.
Hi. Do you think 706 model is the same as the 806 ? Or is it similar to LG when it comes to differanciate C and B model like brightness or motion ?
@biosushi440 is it missing the AI? I thought they both had the same P5 engine?
It's not worth the huge bump in price though.
Can I use this TV as monitor for watching TH-cam and occasionally working from home or editing a video/using Photoshop. Probably more gaming and watching TH-cam and movies tho.
I have a dilemma LG C1 55" or Philips OLED 706 65" both cost the same here in the UK. 1200 pounds
I get that the LG C1 is a best TV overall in terms of picture quality, contrast and gaming features, which is confirmed by pretty much all the reviews I have seen. But, I am wondering how that translate to the real world and how much difference there is, because the PHILIPS is 10"larger, got ambilight and better sound.
So, what do you think guys?
Try to haggle down the price for a 65" C1 instead imo. Amazing TV!
I think 706 more accuracy colours and better motion & upscaler
Hello man, i have the same doubts, what did you get ?
@@IamFilipao Well, In the end, I decided to wait for the next gen and, now, I have the same dilemma. LG C2 or PHILIPS OLED807/12. Both of them are very similar. But, I think the Philips comes a bit above because of the ambilight and Andorid TV software.
Gaming input lag? You have a timestamp but you dont specify what milisecond delay the tv has.
Would be great to have a vidoe how to set it up correctly for XSX and PS5. Cannot find anything on the internet. Thanks!
Philips OLED 706 review anytime soon?
No.
it's the same oled planed of 806 but with less options and a poor receiver. Better choice 706 imo
was wondering as well how it was worth paying the extra over the 705/706.. but so hard to find any reviews on mid range Tvs even tho it seems to be the majority buying those.
@@maejshbrail2233 I bought 706 instead, it was 700 EUR cheaper than the 806.
@@nikolaigontsarov5941 yeah im considering a 705 atm actually, dont game, just want a decent payable good TV, seems like ok fit tbh.
How do I find the info button for the on screen info telling me what resolution and if hdr is enabled. Tia.
It's on sale just now for £1299 is that a good buy?
So to understand, you cannot play 4k 120Hz games with VRR and ALLM active?
Thank you
You can, but the vertical resolution would be halved, just like on all other TVs with the Mediatek MT5895 SoC without co-processor.
@@hdtvtest thank you for the reply.
Than, I think is best that I get a LG C1 for playing on Ps5 and Xbox Series X.
What is your opinion?
Is the C1 a good TV for the new generation console's? And also does it fully support 4K 120hz with VRR and ALLM enabled?
Thank you
@@MariusPF20 the C1 isn't a good tv for next gen consoles. It's the best there is!!
@HDTVTest when you say halved, will this be visible anywhere on the TV menu, PS5, or in the Nvidia control panel on PC?
I laughed at the Ben affleck thing lol
Gaming features are a bit poor, too many hacks to get features working that just work on the c1
Outstanding test
This one or C1?
Airplay on Philips OLED would be nice. Any chance for the future?
Hi Vincent. Are you able to check if the problems in this model have been resolved with the December update?
TPM211EA_001.001.233.026- Date: 2021/12/14
- Fix for vertical line seen on the right side of the screen eg. OLED screensaver
- Fixes for Calman color calibration functionality
- Improvements for picture quality
o Flickering, loss of details, frame drops
o shadows around moving objects
It is very important to me because I see all the disadvantages of modern OLEDs and although I would like to buy a Sony A90J, the budget limits me :-).
Please
Hey ! Do you have plans to review the TCL C825? 😌😌
Anyone know if the Philips 706 Oled any good as I cannot find any credible reviews?
Vinny sounds knackered.
This vs LG A1.... Can get both in 65" for the same price
Hello @HDTVTest and everyone else :D as Vincent Teoh most likely wont reply.
Is it better option to buy Philips 55 806 OLED or 65 706 OLED for ~120 euros more, when picture quality vs price is considered?
Thanks!
How is the monitor mode (required for 4k120hz) different from the filmmaker mode in case of picture accuracy? I don't want to have any processing being done.
Vincent before when I played a PS5 Game my Philips 55" 806 would say VRR at the bottom, I haven't changed anything but now it no longer says it! On the Playstation it still says VRR supported. Is the TV 100% not outputting VVR when it isn't stated on the tv itself?!
How much brightness should I go? Like at 6:46 in video. How do it make that calibration or what setting were used to make it better?
I have one..great tv.except...no picture format...so netflix shows can have huge black bars l cant rid of which can cause wear on oled display as it had to kerp these areas black etc. Were is the select full screen...16:9...etc etc....why is this vital info not in reviews?
Hi, can I get your Test Pattern BluRay or Video Files anywhere or buy it? Also after calibration, the image (usually SDR) looks flat and too dark, I like calibrated accurate image but sometimes I like the colors to pop a little, but I'm struggling to make it so that the highlights are not clipping. I have the Philips 50PUS7363.
Good evening, the automatic comments are not in the correct language. Can you change it because the subtitle is in Dutch. Thank you in advance.
Did Philips TV’s equipped with the MT9970B correct the issue with full 4k @ 120hz + VRR?
This is weird but... I listened to this video to calm my anxiety. Something about his voice and accent. I don’t care about this tv at all lol.
Hi.. I like to know if there's availability for the raise column stand like in ur 805 review?
Hi guys! saw this 65" gem in shop for 1400 euros now.
Does anyone know why the electric consumption is on max? (G). Is all OLEDs double the LEDS in wattage?
Does this TV have Far field microphones for hey Google & does Ambi light work with the apps built into the TV?
Very deep review but I miss proper Ambilight review.