Current government don't want to build this projekt cause they reached an agreement with german government. Current biggest party in rulling coalition is supported financialy by foundation which belongs to Konrad Adenuaer. l think it's relevant to add that this foundation has strong connections with CDU. People in Poland have voted for current coalition cause previous government was very populistic and they were making a lot of scams. That biggest party in rulling coalition is now even more populistic and it's very clearly they will cancel this project. As a Man who consider myself as patriotic it's very sad something like this is happening and nobody is doing anything with this,cause our elits are so connected with German government at least our premier Donald Tusk.
The plan used to be to connect Eastern and Western Europe. Well, you know how tense the situation is in the East... God willing, it will change in the future.
Nie martw się. Ten projekt powstanie tylko trzeba to sprawdzić bo ci co odeszli nie są wiarygodni biznesowo i naukowo. My w Polsce wiemy, że Bałtowie są ważni i też potrzebują obrony i połączenia z cywilizowanym światem cokolwiek to znaczy. Pozdrawiam z Polski.
@@Matleieusz No, a po pissiarni zostały tylko długi na przynajmniej 2 pokolenia, które będą spłacać twoje dzieci i wnuki i rozwalone państwo Cieszysz się.
@@edwardarmstrong6681 yeah, the whole thing about "there is an airport in Berlin" started from one polish politician from now ruling party saying "we do not have to waste billions on CPK, there is a nice airport in Berlin. People can use that one". There is general consensus between poles that we DO need big investments like CPK and other started by previous govt, but this new govt has put everything on hold and pretend like they are doing audits but it has been 5 months and not a single audit has started. So basically, people are saying that Tusk, new Prime Minister, is working for Germans because he is blocking everything that could take business away from German economy
It's not gonna happen. Our currently elected government represents German interests. There's already a slow shift happening. We don't need the airport, we don't need nuclear power plants, we don't need to modernize our army etc. What we need, is to be a client state.
I just came back from Poland, Im Spanish. Beautifull country and beautifull people, the only caveat is that I didnt see the sun during my stance... Overall wonderfull experience and will come back. Love from Spain ❤️💛❤️🤝🤍❤️
Polish Sommer is sunny and quite hot 24-35 nut the best ist Polish nature and National Parks, Boars. Bizons, Moose, Lynx. I've seen all of them in Poland.
We love Romania, worked and have lots of true friends from there I met abroad. Always keep together with Poles, been to some great BBQ and parties together. Come visit Poland my friends ❤️ from Poland.
@@travelerexperience I admire Romania, you made one the biggest jumps in development, perhaps even more than we did. While keeping your traditions, culture, etc in tact.
I don't think many people realize just how much Poland has been growing over the last two decades. They have the best educated youth, it's one of the safest and best connected countries in Europe. It has some of the best infrastructure. It has seen economic growth way ahead of all European and most other countries in the world.
Greetings from Poland. CPK is one of rare situations when people really want this investment, some like 80% in recent pools, people from all backgrounds, that is also rare in Poland. I personally have hope that government will finally start to make this real. And funny thing, airport aren’t most important thing here, rail roads are, and this is reason why people want it. From 1990 to 2020 Polish rail roads degraded heavily in favor of car roads, now we’ve one of bests network in Europe, time to make train transportation great again.
Both high-speed rail network and airport are important, although each solution is needed on a different level. The airport solves the problem of passenger and cargo transfers flying to Poland in Western Europe, while the railway solves the problem of transportation exclusion and creates new connections between cities. Additionally, the number of people traveling by train increases by several percent each year, so the railway requires modernization to accommodate the growing number of passengers. Meanwhile, the airport will provide home airport for the LOT Airlines, allowing them to finally dictate their prices at the airport (this is the practice of every major airline)
I hope Poland gets this to, wanting to keep old two airports are like a putting on band-aid and refurbishing them is waste of potential. I would recommend closing the old ones and redevelopment the land for mixed use and parks. If you try to keep all the above it won't thrive. This great investment for Poland's future and air travel is stay. They look at the cost, now fail to the financial benefit. And if the redevelop the land of old airports, this creates more housing, and livable place for Warsaw.
You forget pools from before election and how in every discussion people were telling that they should cancel CPK ? Internet is fascinating thing, how just few months can change everything to 180 degree.
As someone from Quebec, they will regret not building it if it's cancelled. Here we built Mirabel in the 70s but half assed the project and never finished most of the transport links to it which caused it to eventually fail and be closed, and we still regret doing so to this day because things would be much better had the transit links been finished.
That's the aim of current government in Warsaw. Cut off all the important bits, build it half-arsed and after 10-15 years close it, since "it has proven to not be feasible". Simply because their political opponents have started the project.
Funny, your Mirabel airport is a important example used by biggest airport supporters. Mirabel was closed due to fact that old airport was not closed after opening Mirabel. Some folls want to reoeat this mistake in Warsaw.
@@ZibiWonka Mirabel supporters have been vindicated by the past 20 years, the mistake that airport had was that two of the three highways connecting it to Montreal, the HSR line to downtown, TRAM connecting it around the Montreal urban area and the highway to Ottawa where never finished, and now that Dorval is at capacity we've had to resort to turning Saint Hubert airport from a regional airport to a national airport to deal with it.
@@MegaBuildsYTIt was the only error that I spotted though, the video is great. As a Pole, seeing the thumbnail I thought I'll have to write a comment about the political issues of the project, but you had it already covered! 👍
Where is the infrastructure? Railways and Autobahns? 8 years and nothing? You don't live in Poland and have no information of anything. Just finish the primary school kid.
@@sufitplays2935 LMAO I live in Poland for 30 years since i was born here. I am merely mocking anti-cpk crowd. You leftists need to learn to read sarcasm or mockery as it is: Sarcasm or mockery.
I'm from Poland. I really hope it will be built. Currently a lot of flights are going through Germany. This is a chance to improve the quality of life, as well the economy.
These ideas are great in a strong EU but alot of countries are having mixed oppinions on that. Without a stable aligned EU its a red herring. It adds value in a 500m EU but not in a 36m Poland.
Koleszko też jestem z Polski, aczkolwiek mieszkam w samym centrum zachodu. Nie jest to prawdą co mówisz. Po pierwsze PiS to socjaliści, zakamuflowani ale jednak. Dwa z Kaczyńskim jest taki problem - nie możliwości go skorumpować. Jedynie co go interesuje to Polska. Te wasze domysły o zlodziejstwie etc., to tylko elementy kreacji mediów masowych. Gdzie przypominamy +/- 70% to kapitał niemiecki, francuski itp. Także to co widzicie to taki wypadek przy pracy. Złośliwość rzeczy martwych. Reszta narodu obecnie jest zarządzana jak aktywo w kolonii. Nic nie wybudują. Spokojnie.
I am Czech and I would much rather fly to Asia through Poland than London or Paris. Currently Prague only has direct three direct flights to east Asia - Taipei, Seoul and Beijing which is too little.
@@HussarVistas F*cking traitors. I voted 3rd way and already regret it. I think there are more people who share my view. Usually a ruling party has 2-3 years honey years and domination in polls, current govt already made people mad.
current goverment is infiltrated by german interests, there is already mega airport in berlin, they won't let it happen imagine how much money would stay in Poland instead of going to berlin
I work at Chopin airport. Old infrastructure that is under constant renovation. The CPK is really needed. The government, last week send out a petition to see do the people think they should go ahead with the project. After consulting with international experts, it seems the new government is now of the opinion that it is actually needed.
How many expertise's did they received already ? , but their own expert Lasek , has his own thing going, just like hi had expertise about the Smolensk.
Sadly the govt just announced they will modernise Chopin airport which basically means CPK won't be built. There is strong lobby (mainly from the west of Odra river) which won't allow this to happen. Tusk is under their influence it appears.
Definitively Poland needs the new airport. Chopin airport is far too small. Look at Hong Kong, a whole new artificial island was build to accommodate the new airport.
Actually some German journalists were pretty positive about that project. Of course German government won’t like it, they want to have cheap labour market and cheaper place to manufacture components for their technologically advanced products with no issues regarding deliveries. I think that is pretty normal. What wasn’t normal was building Nord Streams knowing the consequences- they had many other options but chose one that was seriously endangering security of Eastern Europe.
Poland ist European. Germans have total interest in economic development of member states. This is huge for Poland, huge for Europe. Love to our friends in Poland from Germany;)
There is a lot of interest in CPK in Poland and many journalists, media, specialists and business people are looking at this project. Tusk has nothing to look for in Poland, if he doesn't build it, his support will soon drop if he doesn't show own plans.
🔴 CPK is a key strategic project for Poland. It should be created beyond divisions and changes at the top of power. It is in the interest of the entire nation. It will ensure a civilization leap and rapid development of Poland. A very important element will be a significant increase in the country's security. Opening to the world and the inflow of investors from other countries. Poland has a chance to become the dominant country in Europe if this country is governed by people who serve the nation and not their own interests. YES FOR #CPK
Many Polish people always complain that the big countries in the West are dominating Europe, but if Poland is the dominant country in Europe it is okay?
@@bluedragon-dk4iz No one ever complained that Germany has big airports, people are mad that they try to meddle with our politics, use their influence to target important projects and keep us a client state. Europe needs healthy competition, not Franco-German and Brussels dictatorship.
@@MyPrideFlag '..use their influence to target important projects and keep us a client state.' Are you just repeating PiS words like a parrot or can you offer us any proof and facts for such rumours?
CPK must be built! Not only Poland will be more important, but also: •Germany will have an rival when it comes to the mega transport hub in central europe •Proper Polish HSR will be started by upgrading several existing Mainlines including CMK line and even reconnect some places by railways for the first time in few decades. •In case Russia went nuts and WW3 was conventional, CPK woudl massively help supplying the east European front. •Entire central Europe gets another mega transport hub, but also part of east Europe as well.
I think you gave us the main reason it won't happen "Germany will have a rival". Besides there is a new beutifull airport in Berlin and a new hub will be built in Vienna so we don't need CPK.
@@MyPrideFlag Even though I am an social liberal (aka when it comes to ideology I should vote for KO party), I am dissatisfied by what they did. Basically, they insisted to upgrade the Fryderyk Chopin airport in Warsaw instead of constructing CPK, which is impossible now.
@@polishstick0609 I'm a conservative and economic liberal (not libertarian ancap or anything like that tho). So there is no party that represents my views, Konfederacja is too "unhinged" (but now that Korwin is gone and I'm so done with politics I might consider protest voting for them). PiS are corrupt socialists but they did some things right. Still not a fan. I voted 3rd way in the parliamentary election and I kinda regret it now. This goverment is just plain terrible. They didn't "clean up" the mess that PiS made. They made it worse and also destroy key infrastructure projects that should be "ponadpartyjne xd". I have to acknowledge that the far left (the party that I usually have nothing in common) is a big supporter of this. It just shows that Poles can agree on important things despite having different worldviews. And all of this drama is making believe that Donald Tusk is indeed under German influence and "für deutschland" is more than dumb propaganda but has some truth in it. I see no other rational explanation for his and Lasek's behaviour. I'm sad, angry, disillusioned. Why can't we have nice things in this country.
@@MyPrideFlag Polish politics are pure shit: •PiS was trying to throw democracy and the concept of people's freedoms out of the window, plus the catholic clergy had too much influence within the party, which is why I became so anticlerical. •KO was lying to us. Working for Germans and Russians as our lords is never an option. They won't change much. •The left is weird and pure chaos. Also their politicians might be the most delusional ones within the left wing side of the political world thingy in Poland. •Confederation party is also weird. Fuck Korwin. Atleast Metzen seems sane enough. Most likely to be libertarians and nationalists, which is an somewhat big red flag (methaforical meaning was used!) for me. •the third way is also weird. •other smaller parties are confusing for me. Btw fuck the OZN and other fascist, ultranationalistic, radical socialist and theocratic movements/organizations/parties.
Absolutely necessary. Most of cargo traffic to Poland comes via German airports. Poland has a very good transit location for passengers from India and Pakistan to US East Coast. FinnAir has been busy serving transit trafic from Asia for years. Okecie Warsaw has reached limits of expansion and has no further growth potential. New government bows to demands of German interest. It is already blocking expansion of container shipping port in Szczecin to prevent competition with German ports on Baltic shore and North See shore. New Polish government primarily preserves German economic interest. Current prime minister Tusk has always been suspected to be an informant of German secret service
False, most of the cargo in the world is belly cargo transported via passenger planes, and they are transported directly to the airports. Cargo planes are only a small fraction of whole air traffic. Secret service? Wtf? Really? Paid political trolls everywhere.
Always these bad, bad, guilty Germans who want to destroy Poland! And Tusk, the German spy helps them! Oh my gosh, I always ask myself how people can believe this propaganda bs.
Yes for CPK, I don't want to switch the planes in terrible crowded airports in Frankfurt or Hithrow, Amsterdam e,t,c to fly to Asia from north America. Poland seems to be better and more modern airport for the future. Besides, Poland is the beautiful country with many things to offer and very safe and clean. YES,YES, YES for the new airport.
Berlin (Germany) has recently debuted its new airport after almost 15 years and closed down its two airports. The situation is similar and I gotta say it makes sense. However, I'd prefer it if the old airports' space will be used smart. If you're gonna use forest area, maybe use the old space for reforestation, parks and maybe appartment buildings to battle the housing shortage.
@CaptainConditor Does cancelled airports still have a project to build housing area with public and commercial areas ? I remember that there was design like that for these two. Nice part about this design was a lot of green areas.
You can’t make large projects like this without environmental impact and an official plan to offset it by eg. planting more trees elsewhere etc. This project has already been approved so they must have met the environmental requirements.
They just announced Chopin will be modernised and CPK "delayed" (cancelled). The governor of Poland got instructions from the top, Berlin had a hard time and a competition from the Vistula Province is not beneficial.
@@bluedragon-dk4iz you made it to the next Tusk propaganda level, well done! Keep going! don"t judge other people politics just because they see what her Tusk is doing
If there is a risk that the government could waste billions of Polish tax payer Złotys, it is a no brainer? It is an interesting view.. . Maybe the current government just looks at the project in a realistic way and is trying to see what is usefull for Poland and what not? Could it be possible?
@@bluedragon-dk4iz thats the problem. people always assume the best and then get disappointed. the project has a lot of potential but also a lot of risks, I think the country is in no shape to take financially massive risks. they should do more research before either continuing or cancelling the project
If it were me, I would build a new one and close one of them if not both. Then I would turn the old Airports into urban development, at least one urban development project would honor the past by being an Airpark (catering to smaller aircrafts like private jets) the rest would mixed areas. Neighborhoods would be named after, "airplane areas", I also recommend a jet age theme hotel. The Airpark development would include parks. I know it would be for the Polish people do give up these airports. But I think this land could be used better. So, to honor it I propose Air Park and Development Project. I think this is a great plan, strategically. But they don't need all 3 airports.
Hey polish viewer here! Great video and nice storytelling but i want add extra context to CPK: - CPK is the huge opportunity to more evenly develop Poland since times of Partitions (XVII centry and Industrial Revolution) and World Wars (both were fought in polish lands and devastated our land), to this day we have phrase "widać zabory" - "you can see partitions" because the 3 Empires that partition us have different level of industrialization and want to strengthen their influence in their part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and not between the partitioned land. - CPK also opens new opportunities for Łódź and its Lodz voivodeship, Polish 4-th largest city and the most forgotten and neglected region of Poland (one of polish leaders one said "Poland is like bagel/pączek - plenty of dough on the edges and nothing in the middle). - One of the Polish economists working in Washington Marcin Piątkowski see's chance in building "New Industrial Heart of Europe" in the space between Łódź and CPK (if it materialized in near future). Hope this clarified to you, dear viewer, some polish point of view and whole debate that is around it 😉
I use Chopin Airport few times and feel that is to small ! Is crowded not much space and definitely no comforts for travellers! Warsaw do need new Airport !
This project will give huge economic growth to Poland, with the growth or railroads and roads, this will bring Poland at the center of Europe and revolutionize and strengthen Poland. This is a small investment to the Future Growth it can bring in. I hope the government can go ahead with this plan!
Let’s face it the video has a headline of NATO builds about a civilian airport. As if NATO builds a civilian airport for passenger transport. Today in the UK I boiled the kettle and made a cup of key. Perhaps can be reported to the rest of the world that NATO is keeping calm and having a cup of tea. At which point a bit like dark skies then don’t expect attention to actual detail and quite a few mistakes,
Yeah, yeah I have heard enough of this Rail Baltica non-sense. In Riga, they built 0.01% of all the infrastructure needed and now, suddenly everything is more expensive and they have no money.
Need or just want..? There is a big difference.. . In my opinion you can think about building a new Warsaw airport because the old one cannot expand anymore, but what the old governenment was planning looked like patriotic gigantism and not like a project with a realistic view.
Just in time for a period of growing demand for travel visas and outright banning of travel from some nations in Asia and Africa. That terminal design with the glass roof looks like it was influenced by the Vancouver Int. Airport, which has been a design award winner for a dozen years.
it really would be able to connect the majority of Europe. Frankfurt is as far west as Oslo and as a huge hub only really covers the western 1/3 of Europe. Warsaw would have Sweden and Baltics AND the Balkans and southeast Europe within reach.
Do you know how many people in Sweden, the Baltics and the Balkans live? Not too many.. . Warsaw or Lodz as a new giant connecting hub is just way too far in the East of Europe. Especially now it does not make sense to build something like that. Some kilometres to the East of it you have Belarus and Russia. The airspace there is completely closed for European airlines. And who knows for how long... . Just look at the map, such a megaproject in this location does not make sense.
Poland is located at the center of the Europe and should be the center of the Europe, to integrate the East. This will weaken the Russia and change its structure, leading to the same with China. Poland must have this airport and not only that, but a lot of more.
Poland is at the edge of European Union and some kilometres to the East the airspace over Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is closed for European airlines. A "center of Europe" looks in a different way.. .
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv Poland has great future, and when Western Europe will be sinking, Poland will raise to the highest. Poland is geographically in the Center of the Europe, and for the USA thinkk that Polandis in the Center as well., ...so, the British think the same, ....and living on the side the emotions, rest of the EU. I suggest have the second look at the New World Order.
CPK was not started by PiS, but was debated long long before. PiS only moved this project to the realisation step. "Our" new government stopped not only CPK, but also Intel factory near Wrocław and nulclear plant. They basically undermining all of our effort. CPK should be beyond political game. It should serve us all, not matter the political view. I hope "our" new government can actually see this.
@@slavomt5832 the most important part is to plan everything well instead of suddenly deciding to build an airport and starting the construction the next day
@@barteksz932 planing and analyses took several months, but media did not write much about it. The current leftist government wants to torpedo this project, just like the electric Izera and new ports, because it is not in favor of the German hegemony. Poland is supposed to be an underdeveloped, poorer cousin of the West, obedient to Brussels. This has been visible for years and is so clear that it hurts.
@@barteksz932and this is exacly what they did. The planning of CPK was conducted by a British company specializing in airport construction, including projects in Hong Kong, the United Kingdom, Kuwait, and Qatar.
Polish citizens support the project regardless of the party they voted for. Unfortunately, the current government is trying to desecrate the years of work of previous governments (from different political parties) because Germany would lose out. Yes, I want to say that the current Polish government, headed by Donald Tusk, is not fully guided by the good of its own nation, putting foreign interests ahead of it. The same will probably happen with projects to build nuclear power plants in Poland.
I know - ambitions is a Polish cultural thing. However - gotta look at reality. What fundamentals does Poland have to become a superpower? To become a superpower, one needs to have energy base of their own, resource base of their own, this country needs to be a major industrial and scientific power. Russia, China, USA do fit this bill. Even the EU as the whole doesn't have what it takes - fundamentally, it's a poor, dependent upon everyone in everything part of the world. If someone in the EU thinks of it differently - it's a mistake. Poland on its own is predominantly an agrarian state.
Germany try to stop this project because of customs from cargo and also very likely this project will take some passengers from Germans hub. I think Poland is one of few countries in Europe that can handle that big projects airport , roads and train .Germany have huge delays building Berlin airport and UK have massive delays on HS2 project. I hope this project will go futher and give massive boost for economy
Germany try to stop this project? Where did you learn this? From TVP and Kaczyński? Do you just believe what they say or do you try to use your own brain?
@@mateuszzarzyczny5802 Sure German companies are not happy about new competition. But competition is competition. German companies are also not happy about new or bigger airports in the Netherlands, France, Italy, Spain etc. Competition is normal part of the business. Do you have any proof for campaigning in German media against this project? And even if, what would German media change? For me such words just sound like repeating PiS propaganda. If something goes wrong or is not good enough, Germans are bad and guilty. So easy the world can be.. .
Can you show us any link or article? Not? Then you show us just another example of the PiS propaganda machine. Spreading hate without evidence and the voters repeat the words.. .
I think the High Speed Railways are definitely needed. People (me :)) tend to underestimate the vastness of Poland. Poland has basically three kind of non local roads: mostly excellent and new highways, single carriageway in each direction expressways and single carriageway in each direction national roads. For me as an outsider, it seems that Poland doesn’t have or had urban planning laws so national roads have houses, shops and factories on both sides of the road and that creates traffic that’s both dense and slow. We often do two hours over a stretch of 80 km. Investing in Poland’s transport network is necessary whether it is in rails, roads or airports.
Why foreginer from other country understand how much important is CPK for Poland and (Polish)🇩🇪🇷🇺 people from PO party do not understand that and want to close the project 🤦🏻♂️
@@ch36799 PiS and democratic.. I think it is the joke of the year.. . No free press, no free media, no independent courts plus fake news, hate and propaganda 24/7. Welcome to the world of PiS.
The growth from Poland is nuts. With the increase in military spending, commercial increase and rail way increase its hard to see how Poland can become the next european super power.
@@M3rl1n177 and where’s the $$$ for all this? Nuclear triade is an extremely costly thing. Not only it costs tens of billions of dollars per year, it also requires very high level of industrial development and scientific competencies.
@@antonh1709 The triad cost depends on the quantity of systems in less used. The threshold for acquiring ABC weapons is low, just look at North Korea. You definitely don't realize the level of development Poland is at :)
@@M3rl1n177 Yes, maybe I do not realize, but OK. Any unique competencies that Poland developed on its own? Anything it knows how to do better than anyone else? Or, at least, is there an advanced thing that only 1-3 other nations in this world know how to do? Nothing comes to mind. Poland is an agrarian state with some low-tech industry. When was the last time that a Polish rocket was launched into space from Polish territory? I am not even aware where a space launchpad in Poland is. Both Iran and North Korea know how to do it - they have launchpads, they build satellites, launch them into space using their own rockets, they have their own ballistic missiles. So - yes, the truth is that both Iran and NK do belong to the advanced nations club. As for competencies required for nuclear triade - or even one component of it. The number of actual deployed systems doesn't really matter. Much higher are fixed costs related to such programs. To have nuclear weapons - you need to have a space program, a ballistic missile program, you need to know how to enrich uranium, just to name a few things. You will need to have many research institutions, universities and university chairs working just for that. Obviously, such R&D in this volume is not only costly, but requires many people. So you can talk superpower only after you create such institutions, design a rocket that's 100% Polish, build 100% of it in Poland, and launch it into space from Polish territory. But not before.
@@antonh1709 Poland is not an agricultural country. Agriculture accounts for 2% of the state income; the rest is industry and services. As for rocket launches, the last one took place in 2023. In Poland, we have two certified rocket launch sites: the training grounds in Drawsko and Ustka. Additionally, Polish companies involved in satellite construction provide components for ESA satellites and, recently, technology for NASA as well.
If anything they need to upgrade Krakow airport, way too small for the amount of current traffic and they want to double the traffic plus all airlines using it wants to increase capacity and they want more long hauls (currently limited by runway lenght and thus take off weight.)
I recently read that the CPK was added to the TEN-TS list in the European Union, just like the Via Carpatia road, and that the EU wants it to be built by 2040 at the latest. What do you think about this ?
Chopen airport can be modernized to max 28 milion passangers.There is another airport near to Warsaw which is called Modlin. Modlin can be modernized to max 8 milion passangers,cause it is surrounded by National park. Estimates by PWC on 2040 or 2035 are that the trafic only in aglomeration of Warsaw will be 40 milion passangers,so 28+8 milion is not 40 milion. Estimates done by PWC on 2011 has indicated that Polish air trafic in 2023 or 2022 will be lower than it actually was( they underestimated the results by around 15% ,and of course they didn't count the pandemic). In Poland we only serve 17% of air cargo which come to us and which we send abroad. The remaining 83% is operated by Germany and France. That 17% give to Poland treasury 4 bilion zł only in excise so it's like 900 milion € per year. That project will cost National treasury around 15 bilion €. Whole project will cost 34-45 bilion €. Do this 19-30 bilion € will be provided by private sector and funds from EU. PWC Estimates that only from excise thanks to this project to 2060 Poland will gain 200 bilion zł(46 bilion €).
Of course, Poland needs CPK. Unfortunately, our new 'pro-European' government is looking for reasons to abandon the project. Just two days after this video was published, there was news that they are planning to ditch the rail component as well. Contrary to what was stated in the video, the hub is of medium size compared to other hubs in Western Europe. Notably, countries like Germany and France have several hubs each, whereas Poland has none. It's unbelievable how economically illiterate our current government composed of ex-commies is, and how easily people here are misled by urban populists and demagogues. If you want to do business in Poland, just start another airline like Ryanair, offer subpar service, and regional governments will even pay you. Now, with our 'modern' government dismantling the central anti-corruption institution, your chance is coming. The list of all these advantages is much longer.
Germany and France have several hubs each so Poland also has to have it? This is a realistic conclusion or just a patriotic one? When you look at the map and the fact that the airspace over Belarus and Russia is closed for European airlines, such a megaproject at the Eastern edge of Europe does not make much sense.
@@bluedragon-dk4iz well, it does, but a lot of pieces need to work for that, which is something that many self-called patriots don't understand. For them it's all about 'the bad germans controlling the PM'
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv I live here I see how it is. As soon as the goverment changed, opinion on CPK changed and a lot of arguments were about that "we" have big airport in berlin
@@major_vr Come on, even if someone said that 'we have an airport in Berlin' everyone knows that it is not the reason against CPK and not really an argument. Berlin might be interesting for some people who live in the West of Poland but comparing Warsaw and Berlin airport is nonsense. There are no connecting flight from Berlin airport to Poland and nobody from the East of Poland would drive by car to Berlin to catch a flight. Warsaw is a hub airport, Berlin isn't . You can't compare them. Don't make such an 'argument' bigger than it is in reality. There are other offical reasons against CPK. Discuss about them.
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv There are actually no reasons against beside that Germany don't want us to build it, our goverment does what EU and germany tell us to do. Also they don't want us to have atomic reactors
Above all divisions that affect Polish society and politics, I hope this project will be built. Not the government, but people should have a say in this matter and actually the vast majority of Poles want the airport to be built.
Thats for a good reason... But.. Dont listen to much at those who tryes to make it like a competition or for a way to divide us. But a strong poland is very importantant for Europe and Nato
Yeah, we announced it in a few videos, but we also didn't want to put it in every video :) We just think it fits better to the actual content we talk about.
see everyone understands we need this airport and new railway lines, we do and even foreigners do but this new goverment aacts like its against its own country and nation. I cant believe it.. project already has over a half year of delay because of new goverment doing nothing and questioning its sense. by the way its not going to be "mega" airport, just a decent hub that can grow to much bigger, but first stage is just a 12th in Europe by its size. If they ever build it (i prey they will finally).
Neighbouring countries such as Slovakia and the Czech Republic don't have enough flat land to build something this big, so it only makes sense to build it in Poland, and Poland also has a lot larger population, access to the see etc. Poland will be a great transportation hub for the Central European region. They already are in a way, but this would bring a lot more business and it would make existing operations easier and more efficient. One unrealistic thing about this video was the idea of a ''high speed train from Slovakia to Poland''. The problem with Slovakia is that it is 80% mountainous, so we can't have high speed trains for the same reason Switzerland can't. Not enough flat land and a small population. Also, the highest mountains are between Slovakia and Poland, so it's practically impossible (a tunnel is not an option, a study shows). If there is ever going to be a high speed train, it's going to be between Bratislava and Vienna, Budapest or Brno. But I do hope that Poland is going to build this project. It would boost their already strong economy.
The simple answer is yes you can’t stay in the past those airports are outgrowing they could be redeveloped for much better. Use to move forward which they seem to have lots of different. This makes total sense. I think they’re spending the money wisely and they’re always savings. I had a partner who was a president of a hospital and they can always find ways of saving money And several hospitals always come in budget or just a little bit below
Do you think Poland will build this Mega Airport? 🤔
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As a Polish man, I see this as a dub
Maybe
Just a video I deal I think U should do the most expensive builds to 2000-2100 it might be a amazing video idea
I think U should do the most expensive builds from 200-2100 it would be amazing video idea
Current government don't want to build this projekt cause they reached an agreement with german government. Current biggest party in rulling coalition is supported financialy by foundation which belongs to Konrad Adenuaer. l think it's relevant to add that this foundation has strong connections with CDU. People in Poland have voted for current coalition cause previous government was very populistic and they were making a lot of scams. That biggest party in rulling coalition is now even more populistic and it's very clearly they will cancel this project. As a Man who consider myself as patriotic it's very sad something like this is happening and nobody is doing anything with this,cause our elits are so connected with German government at least our premier Donald Tusk.
As a resident of Estonia and future Rail Baltica customer, I hope the CPK gets built.
The plan used to be to connect Eastern and Western Europe. Well, you know how tense the situation is in the East... God willing, it will change in the future.
I hope Estonian establishment will ask about progress of this project. Tusk and leftards are sabboting this project
Nie martw się. Ten projekt powstanie tylko trzeba to sprawdzić bo ci co odeszli nie są wiarygodni biznesowo i naukowo. My w Polsce wiemy, że Bałtowie są ważni i też potrzebują obrony i połączenia z cywilizowanym światem cokolwiek to znaczy. Pozdrawiam z Polski.
@@worldcitizen181Ci co nadeszli są dopiero wiarygodni, chyba nie pamiętasz co było przed 2015 r., dużo uśmiechu i PR a żadnych konkretów
@@Matleieusz No, a po pissiarni zostały tylko długi na przynajmniej 2 pokolenia, które będą spłacać twoje dzieci i wnuki i rozwalone państwo Cieszysz się.
I'm from Poland, and o hope CPK will be build. We need it!
Fr
You don't need it, there is an airport in Berlin.
Haven't you heard what his highness her tusk said?
@@SickPrid3 Last I checked Berlin is in Germany lmfao, not Poland...
@@SickPrid3 I don't even know if the airport in Berlin is opened yet after all these years...
@@edwardarmstrong6681 yeah, the whole thing about "there is an airport in Berlin" started from one polish politician from now ruling party saying "we do not have to waste billions on CPK, there is a nice airport in Berlin. People can use that one". There is general consensus between poles that we DO need big investments like CPK and other started by previous govt, but this new govt has put everything on hold and pretend like they are doing audits but it has been 5 months and not a single audit has started. So basically, people are saying that Tusk, new Prime Minister, is working for Germans because he is blocking everything that could take business away from German economy
Please, Poland, don't make the same mistake as we did in Mexico by cancelling our new airport and building a smaller one.
It's not gonna happen. Our currently elected government represents German interests. There's already a slow shift happening. We don't need the airport, we don't need nuclear power plants, we don't need to modernize our army etc. What we need, is to be a client state.
@@TheKain202 exactly, germany is trying to control europe (again, wow) and hes giving into it
Our current government is trying to make us a puppet to germany so they wont be in power for very long hopefully
Not gonna happen - Tusk is an abwer spy.
Stupid people in our country picked german representative who promised them to stop our investments.
I just came back from Poland, Im Spanish. Beautifull country and beautifull people, the only caveat is that I didnt see the sun during my stance... Overall wonderfull experience and will come back. Love from Spain ❤️💛❤️🤝🤍❤️
Polish Sommer is sunny and quite hot 24-35 nut the best ist Polish nature and National Parks, Boars. Bizons, Moose, Lynx. I've seen all of them in Poland.
You chose the wrong time, we have sun from May till September xD I hate winters in Poland
W Polsce upały zaczynaj się od maja do września
nowe słońce zbudujemy po CPK 😁
should've come in June or early April, i think they're the best months in Poland, because of all the blooming fruit trees and warm weather!
I love Poland, from Romania
We love Romania, worked and have lots of true friends from there I met abroad. Always keep together with Poles, been to some great BBQ and parties together. Come visit Poland my friends ❤️ from Poland.
@@Matt-dr5et I have been there and it is amazing! I have been in Poznan, nice but I was surprised with Wroclaw!
I love Poland kutfa mać !
@@travelerexperience I admire Romania, you made one the biggest jumps in development, perhaps even more than we did.
While keeping your traditions, culture, etc in tact.
Z wielką niecierpliwością czekam na połączenia lotnicze z Krakowa do Bukaresztu. Znam ten piękny kraj, ale w Bukareszcie nigdy nie byłem.
I don't think many people realize just how much Poland has been growing over the last two decades. They have the best educated youth, it's one of the safest and best connected countries in Europe. It has some of the best infrastructure. It has seen economic growth way ahead of all European and most other countries in the world.
milions of banderitas living there , terrorizing cities like wroclaw ... not so safe anymore .
Poland🇵🇱🦅♥️
@@user-hs4mw8gu6s its truth
We have a new government that is destroying everything so our development will stop soon :(
Polish youth is not inteligent.
Greetings from Poland.
CPK is one of rare situations when people really want this investment, some like 80% in recent pools, people from all backgrounds, that is also rare in Poland.
I personally have hope that government will finally start to make this real.
And funny thing, airport aren’t most important thing here, rail roads are, and this is reason why people want it. From 1990 to 2020 Polish rail roads degraded heavily in favor of car roads, now we’ve one of bests network in Europe, time to make train transportation great again.
Both high-speed rail network and airport are important, although each solution is needed on a different level. The airport solves the problem of passenger and cargo transfers flying to Poland in Western Europe, while the railway solves the problem of transportation exclusion and creates new connections between cities.
Additionally, the number of people traveling by train increases by several percent each year, so the railway requires modernization to accommodate the growing number of passengers. Meanwhile, the airport will provide home airport for the LOT Airlines, allowing them to finally dictate their prices at the airport (this is the practice of every major airline)
I hope Poland gets this to, wanting to keep old two airports are like a putting on band-aid and refurbishing them is waste of potential. I would recommend closing the old ones and redevelopment the land for mixed use and parks. If you try to keep all the above it won't thrive. This great investment for Poland's future and air travel is stay. They look at the cost, now fail to the financial benefit. And if the redevelop the land of old airports, this creates more housing, and livable place for Warsaw.
You forget pools from before election and how in every discussion people were telling that they should cancel CPK ? Internet is fascinating thing, how just few months can change everything to 180 degree.
Simply not true.
What 80%? Nobody asked people of Warsaw if they want to have their airport built 40 km away.
As someone from Quebec, they will regret not building it if it's cancelled. Here we built Mirabel in the 70s but half assed the project and never finished most of the transport links to it which caused it to eventually fail and be closed, and we still regret doing so to this day because things would be much better had the transit links been finished.
That's the aim of current government in Warsaw. Cut off all the important bits, build it half-arsed and after 10-15 years close it, since "it has proven to not be feasible". Simply because their political opponents have started the project.
Traitor donald tusk together with DE try to stop our grow
Funny, your Mirabel airport is a important example used by biggest airport supporters. Mirabel was closed due to fact that old airport was not closed after opening Mirabel. Some folls want to reoeat this mistake in Warsaw.
@@ZibiWonka Mirabel supporters have been vindicated by the past 20 years, the mistake that airport had was that two of the three highways connecting it to Montreal, the HSR line to downtown, TRAM connecting it around the Montreal urban area and the highway to Ottawa where never finished, and now that Dorval is at capacity we've had to resort to turning Saint Hubert airport from a regional airport to a national airport to deal with it.
@@rafahrynkiewicz8274 Singapore might use like: _That's why you should continue voting for the same party to dominate_
06:09 Good job talking about Polish elections while showing a Russian polling station 🤪
lmaooo
Ops, sorry about that!
@@MegaBuildsYTIt was the only error that I spotted though, the video is great. As a Pole, seeing the thumbnail I thought I'll have to write a comment about the political issues of the project, but you had it already covered! 👍
@@amadeosendiulo2137 The "1970s" aircraft was about 40 years older than that
People around the world confuse Poland with Russia and Germany, and these have been Poland's enemies for years.
Poland and Europe needs this CPK airport and rail network! YESFORCPK!
But you have one in amsterdam.
@@KamikazeMedias THATS THE POINT BRUH
Where is the infrastructure? Railways and Autobahns? 8 years and nothing? You don't live in Poland and have no information of anything. Just finish the primary school kid.
@@sufitplays2935 LMAO I live in Poland for 30 years since i was born here. I am merely mocking anti-cpk crowd.
You leftists need to learn to read sarcasm or mockery as it is: Sarcasm or mockery.
@@sufitplays2935 bro its all about the fricking law and justice shit and lewica dumbasses
I'm from Poland. I really hope it will be built. Currently a lot of flights are going through Germany. This is a chance to improve the quality of life, as well the economy.
And the Germans don't want it built imagine that lol
These ideas are great in a strong EU but alot of countries are having mixed oppinions on that. Without a stable aligned EU its a red herring. It adds value in a 500m EU but not in a 36m Poland.
@@voytech3892because the current prime minister of Poland is a major ass kisser of Germany and EU.
Koleszko też jestem z Polski, aczkolwiek mieszkam w samym centrum zachodu. Nie jest to prawdą co mówisz. Po pierwsze PiS to socjaliści, zakamuflowani ale jednak. Dwa z Kaczyńskim jest taki problem - nie możliwości go skorumpować. Jedynie co go interesuje to Polska. Te wasze domysły o zlodziejstwie etc., to tylko elementy kreacji mediów masowych. Gdzie przypominamy +/- 70% to kapitał niemiecki, francuski itp. Także to co widzicie to taki wypadek przy pracy. Złośliwość rzeczy martwych. Reszta narodu obecnie jest zarządzana jak aktywo w kolonii. Nic nie wybudują. Spokojnie.
And this will not change, Lufthansa, KLM and other will still use CPK only to get ppl to their hubs...
I'm Polish and I hate flying to Asia and North America from Frankfurt, Paris and London!
so do not vote for PO, Lewica nor Holownia. They will make you fly via Berlin or Frankfurt...
I am Czech and I would much rather fly to Asia through Poland than London or Paris. Currently Prague only has direct three direct flights to east Asia - Taipei, Seoul and Beijing which is too little.
@@libordrozdek3307 No flights to Qatar or Dubai Hubs?
@@ricardomartins1783 Or Istanbul?
@@bluedragon-dk4iz True
Build it, Poland.
The current government won't, sorry to disappoint
@@HussarVistas F*cking traitors. I voted 3rd way and already regret it.
I think there are more people who share my view.
Usually a ruling party has 2-3 years honey years and domination in polls, current govt already made people mad.
current goverment is infiltrated by german interests, there is already mega airport in berlin, they won't let it happen imagine how much money would stay in Poland instead of going to berlin
Germany won't literaly allow us. Building it would fuck up Germanys cargo economics
Chopin is very crowded. I hope the project proceeds.
I work at Chopin airport. Old infrastructure that is under constant renovation. The CPK is really needed. The government, last week send out a petition to see do the people think they should go ahead with the project. After consulting with international experts, it seems the new government is now of the opinion that it is actually needed.
Of course that this project of new hub is needed very much!
New government with all their experts polls and debate, which is not needed, will kill the project by dragging it in time.
How many expertise's did they received already ? , but their own expert Lasek , has his own thing going, just like hi had expertise about the Smolensk.
love poland from hungary , make eastern europe great
@@rhino_force7679are you a lgtv rainbow group?
Poland is in Central Europe
@@poltorakmdracing4595the earth is round
@LarciliaaThey already did. Donald Tusk is an absolute joke.
Vietnamese guy from Hungary 🤦
Get it done Poland. I want to fly in there at this airport before I die 🇦🇺
This megaproject looks very good for Poland and generally for Europe! Hope it will be done, and politicians in Poland support it.
Sadly the govt just announced they will modernise Chopin airport which basically means CPK won't be built.
There is strong lobby (mainly from the west of Odra river) which won't allow this to happen. Tusk is under their influence it appears.
@@MyPrideFlagCPK will be build, but by a later date, and first they will focus more on the railroads
Definitively Poland needs the new airport. Chopin airport is far too small. Look at Hong Kong, a whole new artificial island was build to accommodate the new airport.
Gwrmans dont like the idea, it means its absolutely must have for Poland.
What a great conclusion! Well done!
Actually some German journalists were pretty positive about that project.
Of course German government won’t like it, they want to have cheap labour market and cheaper place to manufacture components for their technologically advanced products with no issues regarding deliveries. I think that is pretty normal.
What wasn’t normal was building Nord Streams knowing the consequences- they had many other options but chose one that was seriously endangering security of Eastern Europe.
@@natalias50 Thats a point. German GOVERMENT state dont like it. It only needed reason to build it. But Its already sink in.
Poland ist European. Germans have total interest in economic development of member states. This is huge for Poland, huge for Europe. Love to our friends in Poland from Germany;)
There is a lot of interest in CPK in Poland and many journalists, media, specialists and business people are looking at this project. Tusk has nothing to look for in Poland, if he doesn't build it, his support will soon drop if he doesn't show own plans.
I hope the Civic Coalition decides to invest in this project.
I hope this anti-american leftards will be pushed off poland
Stupid Tusk
I hope they will be deported to gaymany
They are hopeless... Even kids know this airport is needed but not Tusk... Stupid jerk and traitor
Civic Coalition? More like Civic Failure
🔴 CPK is a key strategic project for Poland. It should be created beyond divisions and changes at the top of power. It is in the interest of the entire nation. It will ensure a civilization leap and rapid development of Poland. A very important element will be a significant increase in the country's security. Opening to the world and the inflow of investors from other countries. Poland has a chance to become the dominant country in Europe if this country is governed by people who serve the nation and not their own interests. YES FOR #CPK
Many Polish people always complain that the big countries in the West are dominating Europe, but if Poland is the dominant country in Europe it is okay?
Dominant is bad Word, it should be rather leadership.
@@bluedragon-dk4iz No one ever complained that Germany has big airports, people are mad that they try to meddle with our politics, use their influence to target important projects and keep us a client state.
Europe needs healthy competition, not Franco-German and Brussels dictatorship.
@@rafadrzewiecki1905 Leadership is a softer word, yes, but at the end it means the same.
@@MyPrideFlag '..use their influence to target important projects and keep us a client state.'
Are you just repeating PiS words like a parrot or can you offer us any proof and facts for such rumours?
Warsaw needs new airport, Poland needs CPK
Im from Poland, I hope it gets built!!
CPK must be built! Not only Poland will be more important, but also:
•Germany will have an rival when it comes to the mega transport hub in central europe
•Proper Polish HSR will be started by upgrading several existing Mainlines including CMK line and even reconnect some places by railways for the first time in few decades.
•In case Russia went nuts and WW3 was conventional, CPK woudl massively help supplying the east European front.
•Entire central Europe gets another mega transport hub, but also part of east Europe as well.
I think you gave us the main reason it won't happen "Germany will have a rival".
Besides there is a new beutifull airport in Berlin and a new hub will be built in Vienna so we don't need CPK.
@@MyPrideFlag Even though I am an social liberal (aka when it comes to ideology I should vote for KO party), I am dissatisfied by what they did. Basically, they insisted to upgrade the Fryderyk Chopin airport in Warsaw instead of constructing CPK, which is impossible now.
@@polishstick0609 I'm a conservative and economic liberal (not libertarian ancap or anything like that tho).
So there is no party that represents my views, Konfederacja is too "unhinged" (but now that Korwin is gone and I'm so done with politics I might consider protest voting for them).
PiS are corrupt socialists but they did some things right. Still not a fan.
I voted 3rd way in the parliamentary election and I kinda regret it now.
This goverment is just plain terrible. They didn't "clean up" the mess that PiS made. They made it worse and also destroy key infrastructure projects that should be "ponadpartyjne xd".
I have to acknowledge that the far left (the party that I usually have nothing in common) is a big supporter of this.
It just shows that Poles can agree on important things despite having different worldviews.
And all of this drama is making believe that Donald Tusk is indeed under German influence and "für deutschland" is more than dumb propaganda but has some truth in it. I see no other rational explanation for his and Lasek's behaviour.
I'm sad, angry, disillusioned. Why can't we have nice things in this country.
@@MyPrideFlag Polish politics are pure shit:
•PiS was trying to throw democracy and the concept of people's freedoms out of the window, plus the catholic clergy had too much influence within the party, which is why I became so anticlerical.
•KO was lying to us. Working for Germans and Russians as our lords is never an option. They won't change much.
•The left is weird and pure chaos. Also their politicians might be the most delusional ones within the left wing side of the political world thingy in Poland.
•Confederation party is also weird. Fuck Korwin. Atleast Metzen seems sane enough. Most likely to be libertarians and nationalists, which is an somewhat big red flag (methaforical meaning was used!) for me.
•the third way is also weird.
•other smaller parties are confusing for me. Btw fuck the OZN and other fascist, ultranationalistic, radical socialist and theocratic movements/organizations/parties.
@@polishstick0609 it was so obvious it would happen after the change of leadership in Poland
Absolutely necessary. Most of cargo traffic to Poland comes via German airports. Poland has a very good transit location for passengers from India and Pakistan to US East Coast. FinnAir has been busy serving transit trafic from Asia for years. Okecie Warsaw has reached limits of expansion and has no further growth potential. New government bows to demands of German interest. It is already blocking expansion of container shipping port in Szczecin to prevent competition with German ports on Baltic shore and North See shore. New Polish government primarily preserves German economic interest. Current prime minister Tusk has always been suspected to be an informant of German secret service
False, most of the cargo in the world is belly cargo transported via passenger planes, and they are transported directly to the airports. Cargo planes are only a small fraction of whole air traffic. Secret service? Wtf? Really? Paid political trolls everywhere.
Always these bad, bad, guilty Germans who want to destroy Poland! And Tusk, the German spy helps them! Oh my gosh, I always ask myself how people can believe this propaganda bs.
Tusk is a German spy! I hope for your mental health that it is just a good joke :D
Sometimes is better to remain silent otherwise people will realize how stupid you are...
@@tubylecnumer1 It is a great advice for PiS and their parrots who spread propaganda, hate and fake news without evidence, yes. Good words!
Yes for CPK, I don't want to switch the planes in terrible crowded airports in Frankfurt or Hithrow, Amsterdam e,t,c to fly to Asia from north America. Poland seems to be better and more modern airport for the future. Besides, Poland is the beautiful country with many things to offer and very safe and clean. YES,YES, YES for the new airport.
Sometimes there is a difference between 'I want something' and 'something makes sense'..
I am sure they will build this before we, here in Czechia start with actual construction of our fast trains. 😀
Przydałoby się zbudować najpierw autostradę do Kralowec-Lubawka
@@michatrojanowski4100 Postavte radši dálnici do NAŠEHO Královce kde je teď Rusko, protože až to tam budeme okupovat, tak nepujdeme pěšky! 😀
Great project. Central and Eastern Europe need it! Build it Poland, please!
Berlin (Germany) has recently debuted its new airport after almost 15 years and closed down its two airports. The situation is similar and I gotta say it makes sense.
However, I'd prefer it if the old airports' space will be used smart. If you're gonna use forest area, maybe use the old space for reforestation, parks and maybe appartment buildings to battle the housing shortage.
I agree fully ❤
@CaptainConditor Does cancelled airports still have a project to build housing area with public and commercial areas ? I remember that there was design like that for these two. Nice part about this design was a lot of green areas.
You can’t make large projects like this without environmental impact and an official plan to offset it by eg. planting more trees elsewhere etc.
This project has already been approved so they must have met the environmental requirements.
They just announced Chopin will be modernised and CPK "delayed" (cancelled).
The governor of Poland got instructions from the top, Berlin had a hard time and a competition from the Vistula Province is not beneficial.
@@MyPrideFlagCan you offer us evidence for your words or do you just repeat PiS propaganda?
We don’t care what new government thinks! We want it and we will have it!
I don't care what my Mam says! I want to get my toy and I will have it!
Portugal is also planning a new hub around 8-10BN€. The decision of construction is expected in the next weeks!
In Poland, a huge number of people and media are watching closely what Tusk is doing and they will certainly not allow this project to be abandoned
the project is useless for Poland.
@@astronotics531 You brain is usless for sure .
@@astronotics531poland is useless itself
@@astronotics531 Why useless?
Lobbyists (mainly from Germany) won't allow it to continue.
We need that in Poland❤
Yeah, that was the plan but now that German guy was made Polish PM, he will dump the project 😢
You made it to the next PiS propaganda level, well done! Keep going!
@@bluedragon-dk4iz you made it to the next Tusk propaganda level, well done! Keep going!
don"t judge other people politics just because they see what her Tusk is doing
Most Polish want CPK airport. It is no brainer. Business case is very positive. But current gouvernment has different view...
If there is a risk that the government could waste billions of Polish tax payer Złotys, it is a no brainer? It is an interesting view.. . Maybe the current government just looks at the project in a realistic way and is trying to see what is usefull for Poland and what not? Could it be possible?
@@bluedragon-dk4iz thats the problem. people always assume the best and then get disappointed. the project has a lot of potential but also a lot of risks, I think the country is in no shape to take financially massive risks. they should do more research before either continuing or cancelling the project
@@siema14123 Typical European thinking - risky and therefore dangerous. No, you need to think differently here - risk is opportunity.
@@bluedragon-dk4izfacts
I am Polish, and i think if that project will be killed, it will be big mistake
You should vote for PIS.
This project will NOT BE killed
As a polish citizen, I hope that it gets built, it would be so good to have this
If it were me, I would build a new one and close one of them if not both. Then I would turn the old Airports into urban development, at least one urban development project would honor the past by being an Airpark (catering to smaller aircrafts like private jets) the rest would mixed areas. Neighborhoods would be named after, "airplane areas", I also recommend a jet age theme hotel. The Airpark development would include parks. I know it would be for the Polish people do give up these airports. But I think this land could be used better. So, to honor it I propose Air Park and Development Project. I think this is a great plan, strategically. But they don't need all 3 airports.
CPK is a must! POLAND needs strategic progress. 🚄🚅✈✈
CPK or expansion of Chopin Airport in Warsaw,
is needed for geostrategic reasons.
Poland is the heart of the European continent.
And at the edge of the European Union.
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv Civilized Europe.
Poland IS in central Europe!
Very good Poland because the current airports in Warsaw really suck when compared to other cities like Kraków. And rest of Europe
Hey polish viewer here! Great video and nice storytelling but i want add extra context to CPK:
- CPK is the huge opportunity to more evenly develop Poland since times of Partitions (XVII centry and Industrial Revolution) and World Wars (both were fought in polish lands and devastated our land), to this day we have phrase "widać zabory" - "you can see partitions" because the 3 Empires that partition us have different level of industrialization and want to strengthen their influence in their part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and not between the partitioned land.
- CPK also opens new opportunities for Łódź and its Lodz voivodeship, Polish 4-th largest city and the most forgotten and neglected region of Poland (one of polish leaders one said "Poland is like bagel/pączek - plenty of dough on the edges and nothing in the middle).
- One of the Polish economists working in Washington Marcin Piątkowski see's chance in building "New Industrial Heart of Europe" in the space between Łódź and CPK (if it materialized in near future).
Hope this clarified to you, dear viewer, some polish point of view and whole debate that is around it 😉
I use Chopin Airport few times and feel that is to small ! Is crowded not much space and definitely no comforts for travellers! Warsaw do need new Airport !
Yes! Yes! Yes!
This project will give huge economic growth to Poland, with the growth or railroads and roads, this will bring Poland at the center of Europe and revolutionize and strengthen Poland. This is a small investment to the Future Growth it can bring in. I hope the government can go ahead with this plan!
Wzrost gospodarczy nie jest od jednego lotniska i paru linii kolejowych. Wzrost jest od nowych technologii.
@@infeltkdzięki temu portowi , przyszły by nowe technologie, a tak ?? Gdzie Cargo ?
Yes for CPK
@6:12 shows a double-headed eagle - Russian Coat of Arms - not Poland’s white eagle with gold crown.
Thats typical in westetn videos about Poland. They mix it with russian shots
Let’s face it the video has a headline of NATO builds about a civilian airport. As if NATO builds a civilian airport for passenger transport. Today in the UK I boiled the kettle and made a cup of key. Perhaps can be reported to the rest of the world that NATO is keeping calm and having a cup of tea.
At which point a bit like dark skies then don’t expect attention to actual detail and quite a few mistakes,
Yeah, yeah I have heard enough of this Rail Baltica non-sense. In Riga, they built 0.01% of all the infrastructure needed and now, suddenly everything is more expensive and they have no money.
I'm a simple man, I see Poland in the title, I click
Hi from Poland!
This project should be completed from strategic and convenience point of view :)
This is very important, because Polands growing so quick as they need an airport like this.
Need or just want..? There is a big difference.. . In my opinion you can think about building a new Warsaw airport because the old one cannot expand anymore, but what the old governenment was planning looked like patriotic gigantism and not like a project with a realistic view.
Just in time for a period of growing demand for travel visas and outright banning of travel from some nations in Asia and Africa.
That terminal design with the glass roof looks like it was influenced by the Vancouver Int. Airport, which has been a design award winner for a dozen years.
it really would be able to connect the majority of Europe. Frankfurt is as far west as Oslo and as a huge hub only really covers the western 1/3 of Europe. Warsaw would have Sweden and Baltics AND the Balkans and southeast Europe within reach.
Do you know how many people in Sweden, the Baltics and the Balkans live? Not too many.. . Warsaw or Lodz as a new giant connecting hub is just way too far in the East of Europe. Especially now it does not make sense to build something like that. Some kilometres to the East of it you have Belarus and Russia. The airspace there is completely closed for European airlines. And who knows for how long... . Just look at the map, such a megaproject in this location does not make sense.
What a crazy project didn't konw that the EU and Poland are doing that big of a project, keep up with great work doing this awsome videos :)
I hope it gets built and I hope they learn from Berlin's mistakes with Brandenburg...
Poland is located at the center of the Europe and should be the center of the Europe, to integrate the East. This will weaken the Russia and change its structure, leading to the same with China. Poland must have this airport and not only that, but a lot of more.
Poland is at the edge of European Union and some kilometres to the East the airspace over Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is closed for European airlines.
A "center of Europe" looks in a different way.. .
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv Poland has great future, and when Western Europe will be sinking, Poland will raise to the highest. Poland is geographically in the Center of the Europe, and for the USA thinkk that Polandis in the Center as well., ...so, the British think the same, ....and living on the side the emotions, rest of the EU. I suggest have the second look at the New World Order.
@@user-do3lr6hm4c Hit*ler said something similar about Germany. I guess you know how it ended in 1945.. .
thanks to PIS economy grewth.
Poland will become stronger in its transport infrastructure with this new airport.
CPK was not started by PiS, but was debated long long before. PiS only moved this project to the realisation step. "Our" new government stopped not only CPK, but also Intel factory near Wrocław and nulclear plant. They basically undermining all of our effort. CPK should be beyond political game. It should serve us all, not matter the political view. I hope "our" new government can actually see this.
PiS only (?) moved this project to the realization step - YES the most important part is to start working
@@slavomt5832 the most important part is to plan everything well instead of suddenly deciding to build an airport and starting the construction the next day
@@barteksz932 planing and analyses took several months, but media did not write much about it. The current leftist government wants to torpedo this project, just like the electric Izera and new ports, because it is not in favor of the German hegemony. Poland is supposed to be an underdeveloped, poorer cousin of the West, obedient to Brussels. This has been visible for years and is so clear that it hurts.
@@barteksz932and this is exacly what they did. The planning of CPK was conducted by a British company specializing in airport construction, including projects in Hong Kong, the United Kingdom, Kuwait, and Qatar.
@@M3rl1n177 I know that and I fully support this project but people who don't have awful arguments like complaining that nothing has been built yet
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@@alanwie7yt386 Tusk gurom
As a Pole myself, before any of this happens, we need to permanently retire our nation, otherwise nothing happens.
Polish citizens support the project regardless of the party they voted for. Unfortunately, the current government is trying to desecrate the years of work of previous governments (from different political parties) because Germany would lose out. Yes, I want to say that the current Polish government, headed by Donald Tusk, is not fully guided by the good of its own nation, putting foreign interests ahead of it. The same will probably happen with projects to build nuclear power plants in Poland.
PIS was the best Gouverment but you Polish are not patriotic.
My brother has a friend who lives in Poland
Thank you for this video. Nice that not only Poles see importance of this project :)
I certainly hope my Poland builds CPK. This is an outline for future mega growth and self-defense options.
PIS was the best Gouverment.
finally something bout Poland, I'm proud to be Polish cause i think in the future it'll be a global superpower
Too small to be a superpower
Super power for what ? To replace the US ? 🤣
I know - ambitions is a Polish cultural thing. However - gotta look at reality. What fundamentals does Poland have to become a superpower? To become a superpower, one needs to have energy base of their own, resource base of their own, this country needs to be a major industrial and scientific power. Russia, China, USA do fit this bill.
Even the EU as the whole doesn't have what it takes - fundamentally, it's a poor, dependent upon everyone in everything part of the world. If someone in the EU thinks of it differently - it's a mistake. Poland on its own is predominantly an agrarian state.
Dude if we're a developed sovereign country, it will be great.
Regional power is the best Poland can be.
Without PIS Gouverment Poland has no chance.
PIS did many for Polish people and economy.
Germany try to stop this project because of customs from cargo and also very likely this project will take some passengers from Germans hub.
I think Poland is one of few countries in Europe that can handle that big projects airport , roads and train .Germany have huge delays building Berlin airport and UK have massive delays on HS2 project. I hope this project will go futher and give massive boost for economy
Germany try to stop this project? Where did you learn this? From TVP and Kaczyński? Do you just believe what they say or do you try to use your own brain?
@@bluedragon-dk4iz this project is against Germany profits in many aspects, there is Also campaigning in German media against this project.
@@mateuszzarzyczny5802 Sure German companies are not happy about new competition. But competition is competition. German companies are also not happy about new or bigger airports in the Netherlands, France, Italy, Spain etc. Competition is normal part of the business. Do you have any proof for campaigning in German media against this project? And even if, what would German media change? For me such words just sound like repeating PiS propaganda. If something goes wrong or is not good enough, Germans are bad and guilty. So easy the world can be.. .
@@bluedragon-dk4iz you can Google this topic , " Die welt" even wrote articles that building CPK will be like starting war .
Can you show us any link or article? Not? Then you show us just another example of the PiS propaganda machine. Spreading hate without evidence and the voters repeat the words.. .
As a Polish person, I think it is needed, once when I was traveling to Montenegro had to travel from Warsaw to Wroclaw (over 4 hours of road trip)
Man, this is what I call an ambitious project. Let's build it! :D
I think the High Speed Railways are definitely needed. People (me :)) tend to underestimate the vastness of Poland. Poland has basically three kind of non local roads: mostly excellent and new highways, single carriageway in each direction expressways and single carriageway in each direction national roads.
For me as an outsider, it seems that Poland doesn’t have or had urban planning laws so national roads have houses, shops and factories on both sides of the road and that creates traffic that’s both dense and slow. We often do two hours over a stretch of 80 km. Investing in Poland’s transport network is necessary whether it is in rails, roads or airports.
yeah but you can improve the train network without CPK, and this is happening.
Why foreginer from other country understand how much important is CPK for Poland and (Polish)🇩🇪🇷🇺 people from PO party do not understand that and want to close the project 🤦🏻♂️
Maybe you start to think about another question: Why do you believe that PO are German and Russian people?
@@Hoverdover-ib8wvBecause when they ruled they showed this between 2007-2015.
You remember it but it was fine for you.
@@azeca0025 Alternative facts.. .
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv why dont you like Poland? Why are you against democracy?
You know that PIS was democratic.
@@ch36799 PiS and democratic.. I think it is the joke of the year.. . No free press, no free media, no independent courts plus fake news, hate and propaganda 24/7. Welcome to the world of PiS.
Why would you build this? Can't fly east at all from this location.
New Polish government confirmed that CPK will be build. As essential infrastructure for the whole country.
The growth from Poland is nuts. With the increase in military spending, commercial increase and rail way increase its hard to see how Poland can become the next european super power.
We are doing this to become rich enough to build and store our own bio weapons and later nuclear weapons.
@@M3rl1n177 and where’s the $$$ for all this? Nuclear triade is an extremely costly thing. Not only it costs tens of billions of dollars per year, it also requires very high level of industrial development and scientific competencies.
@@antonh1709 The triad cost depends on the quantity of systems in less used.
The threshold for acquiring ABC weapons is low, just look at North Korea. You definitely don't realize the level of development Poland is at :)
@@M3rl1n177 Yes, maybe I do not realize, but OK. Any unique competencies that Poland developed on its own? Anything it knows how to do better than anyone else? Or, at least, is there an advanced thing that only 1-3 other nations in this world know how to do? Nothing comes to mind. Poland is an agrarian state with some low-tech industry. When was the last time that a Polish rocket was launched into space from Polish territory? I am not even aware where a space launchpad in Poland is. Both Iran and North Korea know how to do it - they have launchpads, they build satellites, launch them into space using their own rockets, they have their own ballistic missiles. So - yes, the truth is that both Iran and NK do belong to the advanced nations club.
As for competencies required for nuclear triade - or even one component of it. The number of actual deployed systems doesn't really matter. Much higher are fixed costs related to such programs. To have nuclear weapons - you need to have a space program, a ballistic missile program, you need to know how to enrich uranium, just to name a few things. You will need to have many research institutions, universities and university chairs working just for that. Obviously, such R&D in this volume is not only costly, but requires many people. So you can talk superpower only after you create such institutions, design a rocket that's 100% Polish, build 100% of it in Poland, and launch it into space from Polish territory. But not before.
@@antonh1709 Poland is not an agricultural country. Agriculture accounts for 2% of the state income; the rest is industry and services. As for rocket launches, the last one took place in 2023. In Poland, we have two certified rocket launch sites: the training grounds in Drawsko and Ustka. Additionally, Polish companies involved in satellite construction provide components for ESA satellites and, recently, technology for NASA as well.
It's not the whole goverment that is against this project, it's Platforma Obywatelska that has the biggest share in the goverment.
They are authoritarian and German puppets.
If anything they need to upgrade Krakow airport, way too small for the amount of current traffic and they want to double the traffic plus all airlines using it wants to increase capacity and they want more long hauls (currently limited by runway lenght and thus take off weight.)
I recently read that the CPK was added to the TEN-TS list in the European Union, just like the Via Carpatia road, and that the EU wants it to be built by 2040 at the latest. What do you think about this ?
Chopen airport can be modernized to max 28 milion passangers.There is another airport near to Warsaw which is called Modlin. Modlin can be modernized to max 8 milion passangers,cause it is surrounded by National park. Estimates by PWC on 2040 or 2035 are that the trafic only in aglomeration of Warsaw will be 40 milion passangers,so 28+8 milion is not 40 milion. Estimates done by PWC on 2011 has indicated that Polish air trafic in 2023 or 2022 will be lower than it actually was( they underestimated the results by around 15% ,and of course they didn't count the pandemic). In Poland we only serve 17% of air cargo which come to us and which we send abroad. The remaining 83% is operated by Germany and France. That 17% give to Poland treasury 4 bilion zł only in excise so it's like 900 milion € per year. That project will cost National treasury around 15 bilion €. Whole project will cost 34-45 bilion €. Do this 19-30 bilion € will be provided by private sector and funds from EU. PWC Estimates that only from excise thanks to this project to 2060 Poland will gain 200 bilion zł(46 bilion €).
I'd like to know why you posted the same comment twice. I know what I'm talking about is not on-topic, but I'd like to know the reason why.
Chopin cannot be modernised. Its full!!
As Polish I can tell you that the guy is under influence of German government, and since his criminal group won Poland will fall apart 😢
And I can tell you that you are under influence of a PiS propaganda show ;)
Of course, Poland needs CPK. Unfortunately, our new 'pro-European' government is looking for reasons to abandon the project. Just two days after this video was published, there was news that they are planning to ditch the rail component as well. Contrary to what was stated in the video, the hub is of medium size compared to other hubs in Western Europe. Notably, countries like Germany and France have several hubs each, whereas Poland has none. It's unbelievable how economically illiterate our current government composed of ex-commies is, and how easily people here are misled by urban populists and demagogues. If you want to do business in Poland, just start another airline like Ryanair, offer subpar service, and regional governments will even pay you. Now, with our 'modern' government dismantling the central anti-corruption institution, your chance is coming. The list of all these advantages is much longer.
Do you think PiS is the better option? despite them actively undermining the state and democracy as a whole?
@herrowitsmeme6623 exactly now Tusk installs full-scale dictatorship.
Some of his henchmen will flee to Brussels, to the Europarliament.
Germany and France have several hubs each so Poland also has to have it? This is a realistic conclusion or just a patriotic one? When you look at the map and the fact that the airspace over Belarus and Russia is closed for European airlines, such a megaproject at the Eastern edge of Europe does not make much sense.
@@bluedragon-dk4iz well, it does, but a lot of pieces need to work for that, which is something that many self-called patriots don't understand. For them it's all about 'the bad germans controlling the PM'
we have german goverment now, and germany don't want us to have a CPK for many reasons
Is your opinion based on facts or propaganda?
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv I live here I see how it is. As soon as the goverment changed, opinion on CPK changed and a lot of arguments were about that "we" have big airport in berlin
@@major_vr Come on, even if someone said that 'we have an airport in Berlin' everyone knows that it is not the reason against CPK and not really an argument. Berlin might be interesting for some people who live in the West of Poland but comparing Warsaw and Berlin airport is nonsense. There are no connecting flight from Berlin airport to Poland and nobody from the East of Poland would drive by car to Berlin to catch a flight. Warsaw is a hub airport, Berlin isn't . You can't compare them. Don't make such an 'argument' bigger than it is in reality. There are other offical reasons against CPK. Discuss about them.
@@Hoverdover-ib8wv There are actually no reasons against beside that Germany don't want us to build it, our goverment does what EU and germany tell us to do. Also they don't want us to have atomic reactors
@@major_vr You are just repeating PiS hate speech and fake news.. . Can you offer us any proof or evidence based on facts about it?
Above all divisions that affect Polish society and politics, I hope this project will be built. Not the government, but people should have a say in this matter and actually the vast majority of Poles want the airport to be built.
7:43 we need this airport
Poland is a superpower
Never forget that Poland spends proportionally more of their gdp on defense that any other country in NATO.
Whole project airport + Y line High Speed Rail (10-15 years) will cost one year of Polish military spending.
Thats for a good reason... But.. Dont listen to much at those who tryes to make it like a competition or for a way to divide us. But a strong poland is very importantant for Europe and Nato
And they going to build fortifications and sec wall on eastern borders in 2 years that cost a lot.
Didnt realised cyou rebranded from Top Luxury to Megabuilds,
Yeah, we announced it in a few videos, but we also didn't want to put it in every video :) We just think it fits better to the actual content we talk about.
good job, thank you!
Its not mega by any means, its just have the capacity in the future to be developed to one. No bottlenecks. At the current design at least ...
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As a Lithuanian I really hope this project will become reality, especially knowing the fact that Rail Baltica will pass by it:)
CPK needs to be built! 1. Strategic for whole of NATO. 2. Warsaw Airport is already to small. 3. It will connect with whole Polish infrastructure.
Polish people want to build airport CPK, but our government and prime minister Tusk is stopping it..
It is not fair to look at the giant megaproject with a realistic view and not with a patrotic/nationalistic view!!! How dare!!
see everyone understands we need this airport and new railway lines, we do and even foreigners do but this new goverment aacts like its against its own country and nation. I cant believe it.. project already has over a half year of delay because of new goverment doing nothing and questioning its sense. by the way its not going to be "mega" airport, just a decent hub that can grow to much bigger, but first stage is just a 12th in Europe by its size. If they ever build it (i prey they will finally).
We need that airport
we need big projects in europe
Its not a big project actually its s midium sized
Cpk is good
im agree
Neighbouring countries such as Slovakia and the Czech Republic don't have enough flat land to build something this big, so it only makes sense to build it in Poland, and Poland also has a lot larger population, access to the see etc. Poland will be a great transportation hub for the Central European region. They already are in a way, but this would bring a lot more business and it would make existing operations easier and more efficient.
One unrealistic thing about this video was the idea of a ''high speed train from Slovakia to Poland''. The problem with Slovakia is that it is 80% mountainous, so we can't have high speed trains for the same reason Switzerland can't. Not enough flat land and a small population. Also, the highest mountains are between Slovakia and Poland, so it's practically impossible (a tunnel is not an option, a study shows). If there is ever going to be a high speed train, it's going to be between Bratislava and Vienna, Budapest or Brno.
But I do hope that Poland is going to build this project. It would boost their already strong economy.
The simple answer is yes you can’t stay in the past those airports are outgrowing they could be redeveloped for much better. Use to move forward which they seem to have lots of different. This makes total sense. I think they’re spending the money wisely and they’re always savings. I had a partner who was a president of a hospital and they can always find ways of saving money And several hospitals always come in budget or just a little bit below