Been trying to tell people i work with and buy clones from they have it. This will be a great thing to show them. Great work and thanks for the extra resources and references!
Thanks for noticing it takes a lot of time to produce scientifically supported content. There should be a few more videos coming out soon on this topic so enjoy;-)
Great video! What i have seen so far is that besides general cleanliness, some cultivators are now starting to have an individual pair of scissors for every single plant they got. It drastically reduced the chancea of cross-contamination between plants scince that is where it seems to happen the most.
My first growth was two plants, identical auto strains from a seed bank. They had the same environmental conditions which were far from ideal but good enough. But one plant didn't produce resin at all. They both had been growing fine when it came to size, I spotted no bugs, no flies, nothing. Both started flowering, creating bud sites but the one plant's buds were airy, the color of the plant was the same as it was in the veg phase (the other one turned dark green) and without any resin at all. The week before harvest I gave up on the faulty one, cut her, and saw that absolutely no resin was produced. The roots were fine. There were no signs of nutrient burn or deficiency other than calmag (but both plants had it), leaflets were a bit "skinny" and leaves were curled inwards (not the tips but rather folded in the middle like you would start making paper plane with them). But other than that plant looked healthy. It bugs my mind what could have happened if they had the same soil, same fertilizers, and light... but one just decided to be just a "weed".
How far back does this sort of infection go? I've been an "intermediate" level grower going back to the 80's and have always just thought that sometimes you get a weak seed.... a "runt" if you will!?!? This infection certainly sheds new light onto what most likely is the cause of many times I've encountered an oddly small plant, or even the time I grew one that I considered to have a form of gigantism because it was absolutely massive... like bonkers friggin' huge!! This was back in the early 90's before camera phones and I wish I had pics, but this plant had fan leaves with 11 points and as big around as a basketball hoop I shit you not! But yea.... how long has this been a thing?
transmission happens during tasks such as pruning, defoliating, cloning, and trimming. Any time you create an open wound on a plant, there is a chance for the viroid to possibly affect your plants. Typically, HLVd is spread on unsanitized scissors and gloves, so developing good sanitation habits is crucial to stopping the spread of HLVd in your garden.
Yes, more to come on this hope to have new videos out soon. In short, transfers via contact with the sap and it can occur in either of the situations you mention. Most common is physical contact from an infected plant to a "clean" plant via human interaction or an infected mother produces many infected clones.
I would be interested in seeing the major cannabinoid tested variance assay from top to bottom in several healthy plants to get a feel for how much damage HLVd does. I've long suspected lower THC on lower branches. BTW - How is HLVd spread? Management?
I think you are referring to light intensity and cannabinoid production so take a look at this study... www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2021.646020/full More videos to come soon on prevention, testing and transmission;-)
@@DeBaccoUniversity - I can hardly wait for the upcoming videos. Thanks for the link. However, that study references indoor grows with artificial light and focuses on light intensity variance and its effects on plant growth, transpiration, and cannabinoid production. I am looking for outdoor grown cannabis studies that show cannabinoid concentration variance on a plant from main cola down to the last branches. My suspicion is that there is always a significant decrease of cannabinoids on the lower branches and the highest concentration is on the main cola. I wish to compare a healthy plant variance and a HVLd infected plant's variance.
It makes me wonder if certain known phenotypes, for example OGKB (OG Kush breath) have been infected the whole time hence their odd expression?! They don't lack potency though
I've been educating about this viroid for quite some time. I started some new seeds and notice some early signs of the viroid in many if not all of my plants. I purchase new fabric pots, and I'm curious about how to go about cleaning the pots potentially for another seed run that hopefully you won't contain the virus. I usually like to clone but I don't have the resources to do testing. If I soak the pods and bleach it could affect the integrity of the pots themselves. So I am wondering if boiling the fabric pots would suffice in eliminating the virus. I'm contemplating using standard plastic pots and bleach to clean the pots for simplicity purposes. Also during the flowering stage a lot of leaves tend to overlap each other and can even perspirate (sweat) between leaves. As they touch each other. I would imagine that could transmit the virus through leaf contact.
The bleach (assuming strong enough and long enough of a) soak should prove effective. However, if you have an infected plant and it comes in contact with another transmission can occur. This also applies to you going from plant to plant.
They can't uptake calcium with the viroid and the branches snap right off run you run your fingers down the stalk. Horizontal branching, dudding and the brittleness all point to HLVd
It seems my colleague has made successful contact. Thank you in advance for replying. I want to continue the conversation that was started via email. @@DeBaccoUniversity
Something I'd like to know' is HLV contagious to other cannabis plants in the area or is this something only passed on in breeding like the equivalent of a human STD?
This is a lot bigger then most know im pretty new to growing weed 4 years and i kept wondering why plants were stunted and difficult to grow, why they locked up easily, yellowing small leaves andof courseall the experts saying not enough Cal Mag lol or to much phosphorus or not enough potasium LOL when the whole time ITS THIS RAMPANT DISEASE
What's a good cleaning solution for a tent? I was thinking about diluted anti mould spray then a few rinses with water and vinegar to shine the inside. What about a germicidal lamp for a spell?
Bought seeds Cali from growers choice seeds five different packs five diff strains five beans of each expensive order zero freebies and had these issues alot Cali brands do.
I’ve seen a plant, that had the nose stem swelling. not on the main stem but directly on the nodes, at the place where the nodes and stem connect. Is this a clear sign for a virus / viroid or can it also accurate naturally?
It's nearly impossible to tell here. Unless you have morphed leaves, that's the only obvious thing. Stunting possible but if it's youre only plant, no way to know if it's stunted or a squat phenotype. I've got some newer seeds guaranteed to be HPVLD FREE and says right on the packs. Basically, if everyone can offer this free hlvd seeds like Brother's Grimm, that'll be awesome to never worry about this again.
I grow since 13 years or so, but i never failed nealry so hard like this year. I hope that Virus is not the reason, becouse i have no idea how to fight at it.
Yeah they've been around for about five years that I've known of and they can wipe out your crop especially if you don't trying to look for a plant signs. Now this new disease got me concerned kind of remind me of russet mites but don't know how does it affect the bud wise
A healthy plant is a Healthy plant! Use organic fertilizer, and water appropriately! Do Not over water, Never water every day! And, the more direct Sun the better!!!
My condolences to anyone who encountered this.
Now thats what i call a real response to this sort of news! Congratulations on such a beautiful comment my friend 🫵🏻😘👍🏼
My 3 different bag seed females just started 1st week flower here in ken Caryl Colo
Hope everyone has a great harvest Jah Bless allahu akbar ❤
@@RosinDaddy5280 may they turn out to be big beautiful healthy lady’s, just dripping with that stinky sticky delicious delight 🫵🏻👍🏼
Great comment showing concern for fellow growers!
So what do you do if you think you have it besides get it tested?
The king is back baby! Great to see you’re active again!
Thanks for the welcome back;-)
Been trying to tell people i work with and buy clones from they have it. This will be a great thing to show them. Great work and thanks for the extra resources and references!
Thanks for sharing the channel with others!
Glad you’re posting again!
Thanks for noticing it takes a lot of time to produce scientifically supported content. There should be a few more videos coming out soon on this topic so enjoy;-)
@@DeBaccoUniversity Never stop pls! You re the best channel when it comes to plant science
fantastic videos! best out there! Youre helping soooo many!!!!!
Thanks for this and please share the channel with others!
Im so glad i came across your channel!
So is DeBacco University!
Great video! What i have seen so far is that besides general cleanliness, some cultivators are now starting to have an individual pair of scissors for every single plant they got. It drastically reduced the chancea of cross-contamination between plants scince that is where it seems to happen the most.
Thanks for the information and also your subscription!
My first growth was two plants, identical auto strains from a seed bank. They had the same environmental conditions which were far from ideal but good enough. But one plant didn't produce resin at all. They both had been growing fine when it came to size, I spotted no bugs, no flies, nothing. Both started flowering, creating bud sites but the one plant's buds were airy, the color of the plant was the same as it was in the veg phase (the other one turned dark green) and without any resin at all. The week before harvest I gave up on the faulty one, cut her, and saw that absolutely no resin was produced. The roots were fine. There were no signs of nutrient burn or deficiency other than calmag (but both plants had it), leaflets were a bit "skinny" and leaves were curled inwards (not the tips but rather folded in the middle like you would start making paper plane with them). But other than that plant looked healthy. It bugs my mind what could have happened if they had the same soil, same fertilizers, and light... but one just decided to be just a "weed".
Some times you get a dud.
How far back does this sort of infection go? I've been an "intermediate" level grower going back to the 80's and have always just thought that sometimes you get a weak seed.... a "runt" if you will!?!? This infection certainly sheds new light onto what most likely is the cause of many times I've encountered an oddly small plant, or even the time I grew one that I considered to have a form of gigantism because it was absolutely massive... like bonkers friggin' huge!! This was back in the early 90's before camera phones and I wish I had pics, but this plant had fan leaves with 11 points and as big around as a basketball hoop I shit you not! But yea.... how long has this been a thing?
Not sure of the original start earliest detection was 2019 in California.
I was looking forward to this video.
Thanks so much
bigal me too. The threat of this stuff can not be understated
Great to know relevant content is being produced on this channel;-)
Hell yeah. Love it .
Great and thanks for the subscription!
Thankyou for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. I was not aware that something like this existetd and how much it can cripple a plant.
That is the goal here, quality education;-)
Really educational
That is the intention ;-)
Is a treatment for this? Thank you for the videos 🙌🏽✊🏽🌱🧑🏼🌾
Identify and remove.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and commenting.
So I'm guessing treatments and how it transfers is next? Does it have it from seed or does it contract it during veg?
transmission happens during tasks such as pruning, defoliating, cloning, and trimming. Any time you create an open wound on a plant, there is a chance for the viroid to possibly affect your plants. Typically, HLVd is spread on unsanitized scissors and gloves, so developing good sanitation habits is crucial to stopping the spread of HLVd in your garden.
@@5thelementcannabisproduction ty bud
Yes, more to come on this hope to have new videos out soon. In short, transfers via contact with the sap and it can occur in either of the situations you mention. Most common is physical contact from an infected plant to a "clean" plant via human interaction or an infected mother produces many infected clones.
@@DeBaccoUniversity awesome thanks!
I would be interested in seeing the major cannabinoid tested variance assay from top to bottom in several healthy plants to get a feel for how much damage HLVd does. I've long suspected lower THC on lower branches.
BTW - How is HLVd spread? Management?
I think you are referring to light intensity and cannabinoid production so take a look at this study... www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2021.646020/full
More videos to come soon on prevention, testing and transmission;-)
@@DeBaccoUniversity - I can hardly wait for the upcoming videos. Thanks for the link.
However, that study references indoor grows with artificial light and focuses on light intensity variance and its effects on plant growth, transpiration, and cannabinoid production. I am looking for outdoor grown cannabis studies that show cannabinoid concentration variance on a plant from main cola down to the last branches. My suspicion is that there is always a significant decrease of cannabinoids on the lower branches and the highest concentration is on the main cola. I wish to compare a healthy plant variance and a HVLd infected plant's variance.
great info & shared ..thank you 😎
Much appreciated!
It makes me wonder if certain known phenotypes, for example OGKB (OG Kush breath) have been infected the whole time hence their odd expression?! They don't lack potency though
Interesting^
You bring up an interesting point, testing would answer this question;-)
@@DeBaccoUniversity Q: what are they testing with?
I've been educating about this viroid for quite some time. I started some new seeds and notice some early signs of the viroid in many if not all of my plants. I purchase new fabric pots, and I'm curious about how to go about cleaning the pots potentially for another seed run that hopefully you won't contain the virus. I usually like to clone but I don't have the resources to do testing. If I soak the pods and bleach it could affect the integrity of the pots themselves. So I am wondering if boiling the fabric pots would suffice in eliminating the virus.
I'm contemplating using standard plastic pots and bleach to clean the pots for simplicity purposes.
Also during the flowering stage a lot of leaves tend to overlap each other and can even perspirate (sweat) between leaves. As they touch each other. I would imagine that could transmit the virus through leaf contact.
The bleach (assuming strong enough and long enough of a) soak should prove effective. However, if you have an infected plant and it comes in contact with another transmission can occur. This also applies to you going from plant to plant.
Anything in your grow area could be used to transmit, down to your zipper on your grow tent. @@DeBaccoUniversity
what seed company?
Wow such vague generic symptoms diagnosing without testing seems very difficult
It depends on the viral load. If it has a low viral load you can not really tell. If it has a high viral load you can tell in bloom,
Not all diseases have distinctive and unique symptoms.
They can't uptake calcium with the viroid and the branches snap right off run you run your fingers down the stalk. Horizontal branching, dudding and the brittleness all point to HLVd
I would love to embed this link to our article on HLVd on our site. How do I contact you for proper permission?
DeBacco University can not find your contact information....
It seems my colleague has made successful contact. Thank you in advance for replying. I want to continue the conversation that was started via email. @@DeBaccoUniversity
Something I'd like to know' is HLV contagious to other cannabis plants in the area or is this something only passed on in breeding like the equivalent of a human STD?
"is HLV contagious to other cannabis plants in the area?" = Yes via physical contact and/or sap contact and transfer. More videos on this soon;-)
@@DeBaccoUniversity Thank you for answering my question.
what about electomagnetic fields or smartphone radiation?
This will not impact the virod.
This is a lot bigger then most know im pretty new to growing weed 4 years and i kept wondering why plants were stunted and difficult to grow, why they locked up easily, yellowing small leaves andof courseall the experts saying not enough Cal Mag lol or to much phosphorus or not enough potasium LOL when the whole time ITS THIS RAMPANT DISEASE
Hopefully this video series will help make more people aware of this viroid.
Is it safe to consume the finished product of a plant infected with this?
Viroids have only been known to impact plants.
Not harmful to consume. Just a loss of quality
Do you know how long it could stay dormant in the soil outdoors? I just realized I may have been sold an infected clone last year.
This can depend in part on temperature, but early research is estimating about 90 days to be safe.
@@DeBaccoUniversity You are awesome. Thank you, sir.
Has this been spotted in NY, im way up on the border, I'm suspecting its all over the world by now?Any help will be greatly appriciated
cheerz from ny
Based on the wide spread nature of it you can assume it is in your area.
What's a good cleaning solution for a tent?
I was thinking about diluted anti mould spray then a few rinses with water and vinegar to shine the inside.
What about a germicidal lamp for a spell?
@@andyjaniszewski2130 Ty, i already was using that after each one so good to know.
Bleach is the only thing that will get rid of it. Not even alcohol will get rid of it. And bleach is not 100 percent
Hope to have a video on this very question up the week of Aug. 21st, but in short Bleach 10-20% for 30-60sec. or Virkon S 2% for tool cleaning.
Bought seeds Cali from growers choice seeds five different packs five diff strains five beans of each expensive order zero freebies and had these issues alot Cali brands do.
Unfortunately it is not limited to California.
I’ve seen a plant, that had the nose stem swelling. not on the main stem but directly on the nodes, at the place where the nodes and stem connect. Is this a clear sign for a virus / viroid or can it also accurate naturally?
The image shown was a confirmed case, so I would say main stem would be key as side branches would be a possible concern.
It's nearly impossible to tell here. Unless you have morphed leaves, that's the only obvious thing. Stunting possible but if it's youre only plant, no way to know if it's stunted or a squat phenotype.
I've got some newer seeds guaranteed to be HPVLD FREE and says right on the packs.
Basically, if everyone can offer this free hlvd seeds like Brother's Grimm, that'll be awesome to never worry about this again.
Testing/screening is the best option.
I have one plant and I am starting to think it may have HBVd, I bought as a clone from a pot shop.
Keep it isolated from other plants, and testing is the only way to know for sure.
Anytime I use bag soil or coco .smh I think there's a worldwide soil contamination. When I used brick coco and added stuff, no issues whatsoever
Continue to use what you have success with!
is it possible to have it only on 1 or 2 branch after stretch ? and if it's the case, is it possible it spread in the rest of the plant ?
It can start in a small area, but it can spread through the entire plant.
So I take it there is nothing you can do about the virus? If you think a plant is infected should you throw away the soil or what do you do?
Remove and discard the plant substrate around the roots could also be removed to ensure all plant parts are removed off site.
Thank you. I learn so much from your videos.@@DeBaccoUniversity
How long has this Hop Latent Viriod?
“Duds” or “Dudding Disease” was initially detected in 2019 in California
Any ideas how to control it
Plant removal.
@@DeBaccoUniversity wym
I grow since 13 years or so, but i never failed nealry so hard like this year. I hope that Virus is not the reason, becouse i have no idea how to fight at it.
Hope your next round goes better.
Weed itself would grow so easy nearly anywhere but to really get what humans desire is a whole other ball game lol..
... humans getting in the way again;-)
Best method to get plant infected
Direct sap contact and transfer.
Ive read only the purple plants are imune to this hlvd, is that so?
@@daddy1571 Put this is google :
Purple weed could save California’s pot farms from ‘severe’ pathogen
In short... No.
Don't think so my Purple Punch plants look infected.
Wow looks like nutrient deficiencies you may come across. No wonder it goes unrecognised as much.
Glad to provide some further education on the topic.
This is what happens when you get too far from landrace and use anything but organic soil. Feed the soil, not the plant.
This will not prevent a viroid infection.
HLVd the new cal mag
Not sure what you mean by this?
@@DeBaccoUniversity everyone used to think they had a cal mag deficiency
@@thawiseninja1559I think that's what's happening to me, I feed them a whole bottle of cal mag and nothing happend.
its like the new russet mite to remove the medicinal value of cannabis.
Different problem, but once controlled it should help improve the overall cannabis yield.
It’s not new at all.
Yeah they've been around for about five years that I've known of and they can wipe out your crop especially if you don't trying to look for a plant signs. Now this new disease got me concerned kind of remind me of russet mites but don't know how does it affect the bud wise
for sure it will wipe out cannabis as we know it@@michaello7635
A healthy plant is a Healthy plant! Use organic fertilizer, and water appropriately! Do Not over water, Never water every day! And, the more direct Sun the better!!!
Even healthy plants in ideal conditions can still get sick.
pretty sure i only grow infected plants and they get me tore to the floor hahahaha
Just think if they were not infected....
@@DeBaccoUniversity ohh damm 💯
Thats y I don't use chemical
Even living soil can get this viroid.
It's nature telling us it doesn't like synthetic nutrients and extreme potency.
Unfortunately, there is no connection to viroids
🦾🦾🦾Cheers
Thanks!