@autocarindia1 Hormazd, if you gonna sport a sports coat, you need to ensure your shrits have the right collar and especially sleeves long enough that the cuffs extend at least half an inch out of your jacket sleeve. Else, just throw on a damn Polo T.
For the EV equivalent of "fuel guzzler" you could use "joule guzzler" - rhymes a bit and rolls off the tongue more easily than KwH... Nice episode, but now you've scared me off turbo-petrols...
As a person owning Diesel cars since 2004, I prefer diesels for their drivability, and efficient operation. Petrols are a different character, and you tend to maintain higher speeds unknowingly probably due to the engine smoothness and tendency to increase revs with a constant throttle opening.
This series has been a super favourite to me. These discussions are giving more insights into the automotive world, the business decisions the companies are taking and also it is having an effect on me into taking decisions on my next car purchase. Please keep this podcasts alive or with even more episodes per week with some insider stories and all and some interesting topics
Thank you for starting these Podcast, absolutely love them! You get to learn something new every Saturday. This has become a part of my Saturday routine
nice to hear. one of the 1st place which actually acknowledges average speed in important while calculating real world fuel efficiency. fyi my average speed in mumbai stop and go route during peak hours is 12 kmph.
09:51 But 1-2 psi lower than recommended tyre pressure is always preferable It result in drastic fall in tyre noise coming into cabin Very comfy ride If you fill the recommended amount of pressure in that case as you drive tyres heat up and the actual pressure increases 2-3 psi resulting in irritating tyre noise and bumpy ride, which eventually result in fatigue.
@autocarindia1 turbo Petrol's are also majorly affected by ambient temps which are generally pretty high in India. IAT is the gremlin which turns the experience sour. VW has great tech like Water jacket etc, BMW have water spray injection to cool down charge temps but there will always be limits when ambients are as high as 50 degrees outside!
Truly a gem of a podcast, got so much knowledge about why companies are doing what they're doing. Amazing stuff!! Also the discussions around turbo petrol technology and their downsides for efficiency in real world usage, no one talks about it even though these smaller turbo petrol engines were meant to be more fuel efficient.
CAFE regulations is a great learning as many like me were not aware and we understand why the car manufacturers are forced to focus on fuel economy and hence compromised fun.. Also, the need to have hybrids and EVs in their portfolio to comply with these norms
Why do there is absence of diesel hybrids or range extenders with it. Diesel range extender/hybrids wd be way better than petrol ones for efficiency sake and emissions too can be controlled better as range extender requires it to operate at optimum level!!
Cost. Diesel engines are more expensive than petrols. And then you add another propulsion system on top of it. The same car will be 40% more expensive. Might as well get an electric car at that point. They are the best automatics anyway
Hybrid increases mileage no change in emissions Hybrid diesel would still make same amount of particulate when running on engine Further diesel is already 1-2L costlier than petrol And hybrid is 4-5L costlier than petrol itself Overall nexon EV which costs 15L and nexon diesel AMT which costs 13L will end up costing 20L for diesel hybrid You can buy 8L Tiago EV and 12L Brezza for cost of one nexon diesel hybrid
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About fuel types E10/E20 and XP95(blended with 10% Ethanol) of Indian Oil - In my daily driving experience I have noticed that E20 gives lesser fuel efficiency that E10 for a BS6 car. XP95 is cleaner but giving same efficiency as E20 fuel. Also the pertol pumps operators don't have enough knowlege that if you have a BS4 car the go to fuel recommended shoud be E10 but when you reach there you have a long queue of 2 wheelers on that machine. Hence in a BS4 car if you fill E20 fuel it can't give the required efficiency. As indian automotive customers we are not getting the right fuel efficiency as the fuel filled is not upto the mark as it includes ethanol plus some adulterations.
Just to make it clear, VW 2.0 group cars's (1.0 & 1.5) mandated fuel is 95 octane. Same for XUV3XO TGDI. This is something many are unware of. 91 octane is effectively killing these engine by knocking.
Love your podcast. My dad has been a subscriber of your magazine since its inception, (It used to be Auto India before Autocar India) so I have grown up reading the magazine. One thing have noticed over the years is that the number of cars that you have tested for efficiency has gone down significantly. Most of the times the data contains only the figure for Indian driving cycle. I understand it's a tedious and time consuming process. But it would be great extremely helpful if you expand your range (no pun intended) on this front, including the EVs as well.
The biggest loophole in the cafe system is that it doesn’t account for CO2 generated as part of production. This gives the illusion of EVs being more efficient, whereas the amount of CO2 generated in the production of the battery is completely ignored.
I’m enjoying this pod cast and you both are more apt for a podcast and giving such deep information about industry and their business prospects etc this is awesome you, looking forward for more interesting topics
I think best is to have a plug - in hybrid with battery capacity/ efficiency for range of 60 to 100 kms on full charge. It will fulfill requirements of daily commutation for office goers in cities. Rest the ICE engine to take on when driving beyond 50 kms of range in a day or as per choice of driver. Here the overall fuel efficiency of a vehicle will definitely improve.
Boot space will suffer so ultimately it will be worse for road trips whereas the initial goal itself was to use EV in city but ice on highway The real question is a cost benefit analysis between building infra (long term vision, generates active revenue) vs subsidies for PHEV (short term vision, doesn’t generate revenues from same money pool
I saw one ioc pump with both e20 and regular petrol. I asked the person who was filling petrol - he said he didn't know the difference and both are the same. Will old cars get damaged with e20 fuel?
Yeah so e20 is more corrosive than regular petrol. Your engine will be damaged unless and until it is specified by the manufacturer that it is safe to use
It's a bit of a scam I think. One HP petrol pump owner told me that petrol being sold at all HP pumps (Punjab he meant) is now E20. I asked him why they don't display it prominently. He said the company doesn't allow that yet.
Treasure house of great auto world knowledge discussed in simple language which makes u long for the next Saturday..tons of thanks to Autocar India for this great initiative
Sir, can you please help me with my confusion? Is buying a new Audi A4 or any other car that only runs on e10 fuel risky at this point ? Considering the launch of e20 very soon ? Please advice
One of the major factors affecting the fuel efficiency is the quality of fuel available at the pumps. Same quantity, same brand gives different outputs.. The quality of the dispensed fuel is a big question
I have been following autocar magazine since 2010, @autocar .. off late I have seen you guys are not updating the figures for interior width, legroom, headroom etc .. also 0 to 100 timings etc .. in the tables at the end of the magazine .. Hope you update them in coming editions
Thanks for bringing this topic for us Sirs!!, never knew there is so much happening behind the efficiency subjects of vehicles. eye opener indeed, .Look forward for more !! thank you Gentlemen!
Hybrids have engine thereby lower efficiency compared to full ev. And complex. In EU one study shows plugin hybrids are more polluting than ICE vehicles due consumer behaviour. Again hybrids have more complex so increase risk of fire (more than ICE and EV) and cost of maintenance.
@18:15 i wish you were right right here sir! but people are only willing to sacrifice fuel efficieny talks only when it comes to a heavier built 5 star rated car and not a better driving car! people who drive well are significantly lower in numbers than people who just drive on ok on weekends. otherwise good driving cars from ford chevorolet and now citroen wouldnt have struggled. people know nexons bad FE but still go for it just cuz of its 5 star safety ratings even tho its engine is so very unreliable. now that i have seen you talked about CAFE ratings, it is even more clearer to me
Good topic. You are correct about the turbo charged petrol but in some cases Virtus GT plus MT gives a good mileage. I am a sedan or a hatchback lover since in my budget these cars fits and they are good to drive . SUVs like Creta, Taigun are not real SUVs. Some craze is driving the sales. I own a Virtus GT plus MT since I don’t like automatics. In a speed range from 72 to 89 the mileage I receive is around 17 to 22 kmpl . Previously I used to drive a Ford Figo 1.5 titanium plus diesel.
I drive the Nissan Magnite 1.0 Turbo CVT within city limits...at times it shows a mileage of 10-11 kmph and at times it hardly clocks 7-8 kmph under similar traffic conditions...what could be wrong and how do I extract better mileage ?
Favourite senior Auto journalists with great in depth Auto Gyan keep it coming don't stop u could consider adding others from your staff from time to time👍
As per API CK 4 (USA) and ACEA E8 (Europe) the allowable sulphated Ash in lube oil is nil. the phosphorus content is 1200 ppm and 800 ppm maximum respectively. The sulphur content is 4000 ppm and 3000 ppm maximum respectively. The purpose of this is to protect the catalytic converters and dpfs of euro 6 engines in automobiles. SAPS are meant to enhance the anti wear, detergent and dispersant properties of lube oils. Will these lower levels reduce the life of the engines and affect their long term durability and reliability. Request your informed opinion on the subject. Thank you very much.
Look forward to a podcast on lube oils used in modern automobiles (synthetic, semi synthetic, mineral oil based) as well as lube oil standards like api ck 4 (usa) and acea e8 (europe) including present and future standards for India
My observation is FE is more a marketing gimmick.. many owners don’t drive for getting max fuel efficiency nor they pay attention to calculate it.. only if FE drops by more than 5 kmpl , they really check what’s wrong with the car! 😢
@@atulmalhotra2303Alto is the only option in 5 lakh, you want an EV in 5 lakh, there is MG Comet Ev that starts under 7 lakh and tata tiago is also coming under 8 lakh. Value for money for sure
They will have to sell more hybrids than a brand with EV will have to sell EV For example Tata may need to sell only 2500 EV per month in order to get same benefit as Toyota selling 3000 hybrids
Another informative session. Thanks for this. A few thoughts. 1. Will Ola Electric become the carbon credits seller of India like Tesla of USA. 2. Does mild hybrid account for in CAFE norms? If yes, it will become a necessity in 2027. 3. If all cars have to have at least a mild hybrid system from 2027, then it’s not a good time to buy a new car until then.
Does reducing aircon temp result in better efficiency considering Cold Air ~ Hot Air temperature balance is maintained by introducing hot air from coolant pipe rather than reducing ac compressor load. Are modern cars finally using load reducing compressor? (inverter type as in homes) would request Autocar team to please confirm on this :)
From late 1980's Autocar Magazine ( inr 25 ) made me an auto enthusiasts, Q&A on TV shows by Renuka kriplani to editor Hormad was my favorite part. Test drives of Hormad and Renuka are exceptional till now never seen anyone did, clear, concise to the core. Lighting my auto knowledge from paper form to digital now. Amazing job Sorabji love you.
My Ford Aspire(D) 2017 : still gives 23-28KMPL tested multiple times! (Full to full tank - dashboard Mile counter) Tyres upgraded - 185/70 R14 instead of 175/65 Tyre pressure: Manufacturer recommend - 28-30(2 people) 30-34(3-5 PPL) but I will make it 40PSI everytime! AC : 22°C AUTO __sometimes 15°C @blower 3-4 level! Window tint : 50% UV blockage type Windshield tint : no tint Backshield tint : no tint Diesel: BPCL stations No of passengers: atleast 3+(75+58+110Kgs) full luggage in the boot(320Lts-mostly family trips) Engine oil: semi synthetic 5W-30( @Ford service) Speed : down slope highways -90-110KMPH depends on the flow..with minimal throttle as possible.(g effect) Flats & ups highways -constant minimal throttle- try to boil the engine (70-90KMPH) City(down and ups) - no rapid throttle moments and switch off the engine if the braketime is 45+ seconds.. Braking - planned with no throttle on 5th gear till it reaches down to 40-45KMPH then hold the clutch>>N & brake(usually at tollplazas & animal crossings) ; City roads - No plans 😂! Awaiting suggestions like.. suicide/burn/F the car..or some romantic replies 🥳😂😁🚘
I think your driving style is commendable and so is the vehicle. I won't suggest at all anything that you wished folks would, as can't afFord to lose a nice driving machine that's a Ford!
What a lovely podcast deep drive into every aspect. As i already make a request to Podcast on #HondaCarsIndia . ●Why HONDA sell strong hybride on #HondaCity despite that sedan segment is very niche now-a-days in India rather than #HondaElevate ? ●Why HONDA don't introduced turbo engines here in India ? ●Why HONDA do not lanuched sub 4m SUV. Breeza, Nexon segment ? ●What are their plans in India?
EVs are good but in India where there is load shedding in most parts charging can be a challenge. In some places diesel generators are used during load shedding and if this is used for the charging of EVs the same should be factored in the calculation of CAFE. For India in my opinion Hybrid is a good choice.
I bought Creta Turbo Petrol and realized that the real world KMPL could be almost half of what they have quoted. It's certainly fun to drive and great while overtaking, but the fuel efficiency can be a great downside. I think I will take your advise and try 95 octain. Hope Hyundai will not have an issue with it. 😮
So hormaz and sergius- you don’t recommend a turbo DCT car ? I was planning to buy a seltos 1.5 turbo petrol dct and a Verna 1.5 turbo petrol dct. However we don’t drive more than 3-7 km everyday . But we don’t want a lazy car . Something that’s fun to drive but not a drag on maintenance costs / gear box failure . I am okay to live with a fuel efficiency of 9-10kmpl in city and 14-15 kmpl on highway
Turbo petrols with DCTs are actually more lazy than a 1.5 NA and CVT in stop and go traffic! and for you short run you want something that's smooth and easier to drive
Please make podcast on ford ecosport. and it's engines . TDCi, ecoboost and NA. I know ford has exited the market. but that car is an emotion . In India FORD=Ecosport.
You may search on the website/Google. A few links here - www.autocarindia.com/advice/honda-elevate-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-429574 www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-suzuki-jimny-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428981 www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-fronx-12-amt-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428970
Due to E20 petrol the plastic and rubber parts inside the engine will get melted and engine issues will occur. Before 2023 vehicles will be facing issues until some internal changes are made inside the engine. By god's grace my vehicle TVS Raider is E20 compatible engine
We have very compact cars, strong hybrid kills 100L boot space (350L > 250L) I don’t think it is practical to make PHEV in form factor and size sold in India.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:20 - Certified fuel economy
4:25 - CAFE targets
11:10 - Upcoming regulations and impact
14:21 - Turbo-petrols
16:05 - The right fuel matters
17:50 - Calibration
20:10 - Cars are becoming fuel inefficient
21:04 - Diesel
23:15 - Ethanol
24:20 - Gas guzzlers
25:05 - Autocar India fuel efficiency tests
27:33 - EVs and efficiency
@autocarindia1 Hormazd, if you gonna sport a sports coat, you need to ensure your shrits have the right collar and especially sleeves long enough that the cuffs extend at least half an inch out of your jacket sleeve. Else, just throw on a damn Polo T.
@@74oshothanks for the fashion advice 😀 will try and dress better 👍
For the EV equivalent of "fuel guzzler" you could use "joule guzzler" - rhymes a bit and rolls off the tongue more easily than KwH... Nice episode, but now you've scared me off turbo-petrols...
If hybrid cars is the way ahead why governments are not promoting them by reducing the taxes???
Because they want to gain profit from electric and petrol cars
Because of EV vehicles
Where they ll get election funds from??
An obsession with EVs seems to the case
Tata,M&M lobby
As a person owning Diesel cars since 2004, I prefer diesels for their drivability, and efficient operation. Petrols are a different character, and you tend to maintain higher speeds unknowingly probably due to the engine smoothness and tendency to increase revs with a constant throttle opening.
EV is not practical if you don't own a house with parking. Which majority of people in cities do not. Hybrids are the way to go.
These are really amazing podcasts to hear! Please don’t stop.
This series has been a super favourite to me. These discussions are giving more insights into the automotive world, the business decisions the companies are taking and also it is having an effect on me into taking decisions on my next car purchase. Please keep this podcasts alive or with even more episodes per week with some insider stories and all and some interesting topics
Thank you for starting these Podcast, absolutely love them!
You get to learn something new every Saturday.
This has become a part of my Saturday routine
This Hormaz guy is gold mine of information. He should speak more often in podcasts.
nice to hear. one of the 1st place which actually acknowledges average speed in important while calculating real world fuel efficiency. fyi my average speed in mumbai stop and go route during peak hours is 12 kmph.
09:51 But 1-2 psi lower than recommended tyre pressure is
always preferable
It result in drastic fall in tyre noise
coming into cabin
Very comfy ride
If you fill the recommended amount
of pressure in that case as you drive
tyres heat up and the actual pressure
increases 2-3 psi resulting in irritating
tyre noise and bumpy ride, which eventually result in fatigue.
@autocarindia1 turbo Petrol's are also majorly affected by ambient temps which are generally pretty high in India. IAT is the gremlin which turns the experience sour. VW has great tech like Water jacket etc, BMW have water spray injection to cool down charge temps but there will always be limits when ambients are as high as 50 degrees outside!
Can you guys please discuss about the rising popularity of GDI engine and the problems that comes with it like carbon buildup and how to deal with it.
they did this in the last podcast already
Truly a gem of a podcast, got so much knowledge about why companies are doing what they're doing. Amazing stuff!! Also the discussions around turbo petrol technology and their downsides for efficiency in real world usage, no one talks about it even though these smaller turbo petrol engines were meant to be more fuel efficient.
Glad you started this podcast. Great to listen to Hormazd sir!
CAFE regulations is a great learning as many like me were not aware and we understand why the car manufacturers are forced to focus on fuel economy and hence compromised fun..
Also, the need to have hybrids and EVs in their portfolio to comply with these norms
Dear mr. Hormazd and mr sergius, thank you for another wonderful podcast.
Thank you !
Why do there is absence of diesel hybrids or range extenders with it. Diesel range extender/hybrids wd be way better than petrol ones for efficiency sake and emissions too can be controlled better as range extender requires it to operate at optimum level!!
Cost. Diesel engines are more expensive than petrols. And then you add another propulsion system on top of it. The same car will be 40% more expensive. Might as well get an electric car at that point. They are the best automatics anyway
Hybrid increases mileage no change in emissions
Hybrid diesel would still make same amount of particulate when running on engine
Further diesel is already 1-2L costlier than petrol
And hybrid is 4-5L costlier than petrol itself
Overall nexon EV which costs 15L and nexon diesel AMT which costs 13L will end up costing 20L for diesel hybrid
You can buy 8L Tiago EV and 12L Brezza for cost of one nexon diesel hybrid
But I personally feels that diesel hybrid cars price can match with petrol hybrid cars price which is nearly 25lakh.
These podcasts are so awesome from Autocar and with Hormazd in the driving seat. He is a treasure of knowledge for petrolheads like us☺
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About fuel types E10/E20 and XP95(blended with 10% Ethanol) of Indian Oil - In my daily driving experience I have noticed that E20 gives lesser fuel efficiency that E10 for a BS6 car. XP95 is cleaner but giving same efficiency as E20 fuel. Also the pertol pumps operators don't have enough knowlege that if you have a BS4 car the go to fuel recommended shoud be E10 but when you reach there you have a long queue of 2 wheelers on that machine. Hence in a BS4 car if you fill E20 fuel it can't give the required efficiency.
As indian automotive customers we are not getting the right fuel efficiency as the fuel filled is not upto the mark as it includes ethanol plus some adulterations.
Just to make it clear, VW 2.0 group cars's (1.0 & 1.5) mandated fuel is 95 octane. Same for XUV3XO TGDI. This is something many are unware of. 91 octane is effectively killing these engine by knocking.
Love your podcast. My dad has been a subscriber of your magazine since its inception, (It used to be Auto India before Autocar India) so I have grown up reading the magazine. One thing have noticed over the years is that the number of cars that you have tested for efficiency has gone down significantly. Most of the times the data contains only the figure for Indian driving cycle. I understand it's a tedious and time consuming process. But it would be great extremely helpful if you expand your range (no pun intended) on this front, including the EVs as well.
Love this series and look forward to every Saturday. Very insightful and informative 👏
Publishing the fuel card on your website would be a good way to let us people know
The biggest loophole in the cafe system is that it doesn’t account for CO2 generated as part of production. This gives the illusion of EVs being more efficient, whereas the amount of CO2 generated in the production of the battery is completely ignored.
golden content, please keep providing.... thank you
Very good podcast. So many new insights which i was not knowing.. cafe, turbo problems.. Keep it up
I’m enjoying this pod cast and you both are more apt for a podcast and giving such deep information about industry and their business prospects etc this is awesome you, looking forward for more interesting topics
The thing about ethanol blend fuel is don’t like is that even with that loss of fuel efficiency the petrol engine with E20 feels sort of lathargic
Too good discussion on every week, to know automotive better. Thank you!
I think best is to have a plug - in hybrid with battery capacity/ efficiency for range of 60 to 100 kms on full charge. It will fulfill requirements of daily commutation for office goers in cities. Rest the ICE engine to take on when driving beyond 50 kms of range in a day or as per choice of driver. Here the overall fuel efficiency of a vehicle will definitely improve.
Boot space will suffer so ultimately it will be worse for road trips whereas the initial goal itself was to use EV in city but ice on highway
The real question is a cost benefit analysis between building infra (long term vision, generates active revenue) vs subsidies for PHEV (short term vision, doesn’t generate revenues from same money pool
Love to watch such a beautiful content every week..thanks a lot Sergius and Hormaz.
Thank you !
Please improve the audio on the podcast. I feel like I need to push the volume higher than normal to hear Hormaz properly. Great episode.
Great to watch these videos.. with technical insights.. very difficult to get these info for normal people ❤
Thank you !
Is it wise to buy diesel now ? Are they at risk of being fazed out ? Already 10 yr life in Delhi-NCR !
Sir did you check the efficiency of Tata Nexon for the BS6 engine...??? or can I get the TH-cam review ....???
I saw one ioc pump with both e20 and regular petrol. I asked the person who was filling petrol - he said he didn't know the difference and both are the same. Will old cars get damaged with e20 fuel?
yes
Even the price is same for both
Yeah so e20 is more corrosive than regular petrol. Your engine will be damaged unless and until it is specified by the manufacturer that it is safe to use
Yes there is a high chance that overtime the tank, fuel lines, injectors and what not will wear out
It's a bit of a scam I think. One HP petrol pump owner told me that petrol being sold at all HP pumps (Punjab he meant) is now E20. I asked him why they don't display it prominently. He said the company doesn't allow that yet.
Treasure house of great auto world knowledge discussed in simple language which makes u long for the next Saturday..tons of thanks to Autocar India for this great initiative
Sir, can you please help me with my confusion? Is buying a new Audi A4 or any other car that only runs on e10 fuel risky at this point ? Considering the launch of e20 very soon ? Please advice
This Baretto guy is very knowledgeable . Alongwith Hormuz , absolutely enjoyable to hear
One of the major factors affecting the fuel efficiency is the quality of fuel available at the pumps. Same quantity, same brand gives different outputs..
The quality of the dispensed fuel is a big question
I have been following autocar magazine since 2010, @autocar .. off late I have seen you guys are not updating the figures for interior width, legroom, headroom etc .. also 0 to 100 timings etc .. in the tables at the end of the magazine .. Hope you update them in coming editions
Feedback noted :-)
Best pod so far! Loved the technical insights. Won't mind if it gets even longer and in depth
Thanks for bringing this topic for us Sirs!!, never knew there is so much happening behind the efficiency subjects of vehicles. eye opener indeed, .Look forward for more !! thank you Gentlemen!
Does Astor need Octane95 fuel due to its high compression engine although it is not a turbo?
Does using 95 Octain help in Creta turbo petrol too, will Hyundai not have any issue with warranty 🤔
Hybrids have engine thereby lower efficiency compared to full ev. And complex. In EU one study shows plugin hybrids are more polluting than ICE vehicles due consumer behaviour. Again hybrids have more complex so increase risk of fire (more than ICE and EV) and cost of maintenance.
@18:15 i wish you were right right here sir!
but people are only willing to sacrifice fuel efficieny talks only when it comes to a heavier built 5 star rated car and not a better driving car!
people who drive well are significantly lower in numbers than people who just drive on ok on weekends.
otherwise good driving cars from ford chevorolet and now citroen wouldnt have struggled.
people know nexons bad FE but still go for it just cuz of its 5 star safety ratings even tho its engine is so very unreliable.
now that i have seen you talked about CAFE ratings, it is even more clearer to me
Good topic. You are correct about the turbo charged petrol but in some cases Virtus GT plus MT gives a good mileage. I am a sedan or a hatchback lover since in my budget these cars fits and they are good to drive . SUVs like Creta, Taigun are not real SUVs. Some craze is driving the sales.
I own a Virtus GT plus MT since I don’t like automatics. In a speed range from 72 to 89 the mileage I receive is around 17 to 22 kmpl . Previously I used to drive a Ford Figo 1.5 titanium plus diesel.
I drive the Nissan Magnite 1.0 Turbo CVT within city limits...at times it shows a mileage of 10-11 kmph and at times it hardly clocks 7-8 kmph under similar traffic conditions...what could be wrong and how do I extract better mileage ?
@autocarindia1 Thank You for such amazing podcasts.
Today’s video is helpful and informative, specially the stuff related to the TSI Turbos
Great podcast! Please make another one that delves deeper into 'energy efficiency' of EVs.
Favourite senior Auto journalists with great in depth Auto Gyan keep it coming don't stop u could consider adding others from your staff from time to time👍
Wgat happebed to the Maruti series hybrids ?
Cafe explanation clearly shows what would be the future strategy for manufacturers.
Awesome awesome podcast. Coming from a Team-Bhpian... Loved it !!!
Can 95 octane petrol be used in NA engines?
Great topic and an engaging discussion. Fuel efficiency will continue to remain the core of a car buying decision for millions.
Can we have some podcast related to Mitsubishi, their vision for India to bring cars?
Great discussion, if possible also do a podcast on hyundai planning to bring an ipo and what is in it for India or is it only one sided
As per API CK 4 (USA) and ACEA E8 (Europe) the allowable sulphated Ash in lube oil is nil. the phosphorus content is 1200 ppm and 800 ppm maximum respectively. The sulphur content is 4000 ppm and 3000 ppm maximum respectively. The purpose of this is to protect the catalytic converters and dpfs of euro 6 engines in automobiles. SAPS are meant to enhance the anti wear, detergent and dispersant properties of lube oils. Will these lower levels reduce the life of the engines and affect their long term durability and reliability. Request your informed opinion on the subject. Thank you very much.
An Eye opener conversation ... looking forward for more such insightful information.
Look forward to a podcast on lube oils used in modern automobiles (synthetic, semi synthetic, mineral oil based) as well as lube oil standards like api ck 4 (usa) and acea e8 (europe) including present and future standards for India
Efficiency should be ensured at an individual level instead of even corporate.
My observation is FE is more a marketing gimmick.. many owners don’t drive for getting max fuel efficiency nor they pay attention to calculate it.. only if FE drops by more than 5 kmpl , they really check what’s wrong with the car! 😢
Switching to EV is best if you have own parking. Most travels are within 200km. Highways are full of fast charging for an occasional long drive
Middle class people cannot afford EV in the long run. It gives me anxiety seeing EC car on highway
The premium on EVs is a bit of an issue for lower income groups.
There is no decent EV at 5 lakh rupees.
Funny car decides destinations
@@atulmalhotra2303and there are decent cars under 5 lacs? Which ones?
@@atulmalhotra2303Alto is the only option in 5 lakh, you want an EV in 5 lakh, there is MG Comet Ev that starts under 7 lakh and tata tiago is also coming under 8 lakh. Value for money for sure
Very informative podcast!
I don't see any impact of climate control on fuel efficiency. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?
No one cares here either gov or company everyone here to loot money 😂 gov why cant it reduce tax on hybrids they dont simply its time pass
Efficiency means less fuel burnt for a trip,, which equals less co2 produced
@@raziabdulrahim3042 👏
Is hybrids only solution?. I mean if a car company has only hybrids and no EV can it meet cafe 3
They will have to sell more hybrids than a brand with EV will have to sell EV
For example
Tata may need to sell only 2500 EV per month in order to get same benefit as Toyota selling 3000 hybrids
Another informative session. Thanks for this. A few thoughts.
1. Will Ola Electric become the carbon credits seller of India like Tesla of USA.
2. Does mild hybrid account for in CAFE norms? If yes, it will become a necessity in 2027.
3. If all cars have to have at least a mild hybrid system from 2027, then it’s not a good time to buy a new car until then.
CAFE is for manufacturers not buyers
Does reducing aircon temp result in better efficiency considering Cold Air ~ Hot Air temperature balance is maintained by introducing hot air from coolant pipe rather than reducing ac compressor load. Are modern cars finally using load reducing compressor? (inverter type as in homes) would request Autocar team to please confirm on this :)
From late 1980's Autocar Magazine ( inr 25 ) made me an auto enthusiasts, Q&A on TV shows by Renuka kriplani to editor Hormad was my favorite part.
Test drives of Hormad and Renuka are exceptional till now never seen anyone did, clear, concise to the core.
Lighting my auto knowledge from paper form to digital now.
Amazing job Sorabji love you.
Why not diesel hybrid??
Sir, I am confused which car should I buy. Bolero Neo N10 or Grand Vitara Delta. Please help me with the best advice.
Buy 3xo
My Ford Aspire(D) 2017 : still gives 23-28KMPL tested multiple times! (Full to full tank - dashboard Mile counter)
Tyres upgraded - 185/70 R14 instead of 175/65
Tyre pressure: Manufacturer recommend - 28-30(2 people) 30-34(3-5 PPL) but I will make it 40PSI everytime!
AC : 22°C AUTO __sometimes 15°C @blower 3-4 level!
Window tint : 50% UV blockage type
Windshield tint : no tint
Backshield tint : no tint
Diesel: BPCL stations
No of passengers: atleast 3+(75+58+110Kgs) full luggage in the boot(320Lts-mostly family trips)
Engine oil: semi synthetic 5W-30( @Ford service)
Speed : down slope highways -90-110KMPH depends on the flow..with minimal throttle as possible.(g effect)
Flats & ups highways -constant minimal throttle- try to boil the engine (70-90KMPH)
City(down and ups) - no rapid throttle moments and switch off the engine if the braketime is 45+ seconds..
Braking - planned with no throttle on 5th gear till it reaches down to 40-45KMPH then hold the clutch>>N & brake(usually at tollplazas & animal crossings) ; City roads - No plans 😂!
Awaiting suggestions like.. suicide/burn/F the car..or some romantic replies 🥳😂😁🚘
The last line though 😂😂
I think your driving style is commendable and so is the vehicle. I won't suggest at all anything that you wished folks would, as can't afFord to lose a nice driving machine that's a Ford!
@@johngalt7159 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent info, looking forward to the FE tests. The protocol is sound.
Love these podcasts! My new favourite thing ❤
This podcast series is much better than so many TH-cam dramas and other celeb podcasts.
I owned 2024 diesel seltos, with spirited driving iam getting 17-18 km/l cannot get in turbo petrol in seltos
From what I’ve understood about E20, it gives lower mileage and power while being less polluting right?
That’s correct
Hormazd, you are a University. Respect 🫡🫡
Great podcast! Love listening to them.
What a lovely podcast deep drive into every aspect.
As i already make a request to Podcast on #HondaCarsIndia .
●Why HONDA sell strong hybride on #HondaCity despite that sedan segment is very niche now-a-days in India rather than #HondaElevate ?
●Why HONDA don't introduced turbo engines here in India ?
●Why HONDA do not lanuched sub 4m SUV. Breeza, Nexon segment ?
●What are their plans in India?
They will pack up their bag soon from india
Loved the content ❤one quick question which car you use for your personal daily life apart from reviewing and everything?@autocar hormazd Sorabjee
EVs are good but in India where there is load shedding in most parts charging can be a challenge. In some places diesel generators are used during load shedding and if this is used for the charging of EVs the same should be factored in the calculation of CAFE. For India in my opinion Hybrid is a good choice.
I hearby coin the equivalent for "Gas Guzzler" for EVs, "Watt Waster" 🤣
Nice topic raise in terms of watt guzzler
if the roads are bad no technology can give better fuel efficiency...
I bought Creta Turbo Petrol and realized that the real world KMPL could be almost half of what they have quoted. It's certainly fun to drive and great while overtaking, but the fuel efficiency can be a great downside. I think I will take your advise and try 95 octain. Hope Hyundai will not have an issue with it. 😮
So hormaz and sergius- you don’t recommend a turbo DCT car ? I was planning to buy a seltos 1.5 turbo petrol dct and a Verna 1.5 turbo petrol dct. However we don’t drive more than 3-7 km everyday . But we don’t want a lazy car . Something that’s fun to drive but not a drag on maintenance costs / gear box failure . I am okay to live with a fuel efficiency of 9-10kmpl in city and 14-15 kmpl on highway
Turbo petrols with DCTs are actually more lazy than a 1.5 NA and CVT in stop and go traffic! and for you short run you want something that's smooth and easier to drive
Does premium petrols have ethanol blending
With ethanol adulteration they should sell at cheaper prices price 😂but they wont
Please make podcast on ford ecosport. and it's engines . TDCi, ecoboost and NA. I know ford has exited the market. but that car is an emotion . In India FORD=Ecosport.
Thanks 👍 Long Run Engine Maintence by Using Ethanol Blended Petrol ⛽
Link for fuel efficiency test figures?
You may search on the website/Google. A few links here -
www.autocarindia.com/advice/honda-elevate-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-429574
www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-suzuki-jimny-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428981
www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-fronx-12-amt-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428970
1L TSI on 95 octane gives 10-11 kmpl in city and 16-18kmpl on highway with a fe enthusiastic revvs in between
How much % of ethanol xp95 petrol has??
5%
0 to 60 on battary n fuel beyond 60kmph is the need of the hour. At affordable prices for mass usage.
Hybrid topic is missed sir
Due to E20 petrol the plastic and rubber parts inside the engine will get melted and engine issues will occur. Before 2023 vehicles will be facing issues until some internal changes are made inside the engine. By god's grace my vehicle TVS Raider is E20 compatible engine
Thanks for highlighting facts we didn't know before. I would prefer plug-in hybrid cars over EVies or strong hybrids. But , no respite in India.
We have very compact cars, strong hybrid kills 100L boot space (350L > 250L)
I don’t think it is practical to make PHEV in form factor and size sold in India.