@@theblackat50 it is not required. You can remotely control it from the Lutron app as long it is paired to the Hub and your home and mobile device are connected to the internet. If you do connect it to a smart assistant then you could control it from there as well.
@@TechWithBrett What is Smart Assist? I have an iphone, can i just get a smart Assist App or something. My concern is this: I want to be able to turn my lights on each evening even if my internet is down.
I have used for Lutron Caseta for years and have worked out great. I use Home Assistant as my home automation centre. Nice that I can use this new dimmer and still have control with HA. Thanks.
Looks like they fixed all of my gripes with the old luttron caseta switches. I have a hard time finding those switches in the dark to turn them on / off without looking. And I wanted the switch to remember the last dim setting that I used.
Sorry if you answered this already but I'm trying to set these up as a 3-way dimmer, can I have the other switch be a claro or does it need to be a pico?
This is an awesome product. Can’t wait to install a bunch of these in my home. Loved the Caseta and this is a great addition to the product family. Another high quality product from Lutron.
So does the rocker always return to a neutral middle position so it can work with remote apps without getting confused about the current on/off state? Similarly, it appears that the mechanical slider will not necessarily be showing the value of the dimming if the dimming value was set via app or other remote. Would have thought that would be worth mentioning in the video. Otherwise, a well-done and informative video, thanks!
I assumed this was why the old ones had the clunky design with a bunch of buttons. Though personally I don’t really care if the physical controls can be overridden / inaccurate, I really wish they had these a month ago when I decked out my house!!
Yes, it will always return to the slider position from the rocker and voice assistants unless you tell it you want a different brightness then it will just override the slider position. The slider won't show the position if over ridden but the lightbar will. Thanks for question, I just hadn't thought about that.
This looks like to solves my two main Caseta grips. The ability to preset the on brightness, so it doesn't go to full brightness. I have a lot of recessed lights, and full brightness is just too much most of the time. So currently I have to turn the lights and then turn down the brightness, or use a pico remote. And as some else mentioned, that's hard to do without looking at the switch.
Thanks Brett 💡 🙂 Yet one more thing to share with my Electrician Son. He's been doing so much in our House for us for which we're greatly appreciative 😊. JaneLee - in Suburban Philadelphia 9/13/22
I refused to buy into the Caseta system since Lutron would not implement a previous state feature. Changed out all my switches with Meross and Kasa. Had 2 Meross switches die. Sometimes the Kasa switches get stupid and forget if they are on or off. I have (2) 3way lights in the house. 1st was a serious PITA to install smart dual dimmers. For the 2nd I put a dumb rotary dimmer at the line end and a smart 3way switch at the load end. Worked flawlessly except I could not dim remotely. When the Diva with it's mechanical dimmer remembering previous state was released I finally decided to take the plunge. Wiring is so much simpler with Pico in the 2nd spot. Now that amazon and googles routines can trigger off a lightswitch I want to change my kitchen dimmer (kasa) to a Diva so I will actually have a switch with the pico when I walk in to the room. But Diva $70 + Pico $20 + wall plate $10 = $100 per lighting circuit! That's a whole lot more than a $20 Kasa dimmer. Question for ya, my Diva and Pico, paired together, have vastly different on/off ramping/dimming speeds. Is this normal? The Pico has a much slower rate for both on and off. Could it be that the picos were programmed to match the speeds of the original Casetas? Is there a way to change the speeds?
Would you know if the Lutron Caseta Diva dimmer switch is able to directly connect to the Lutron Caseta lamp plugs? I have a room that I want to install the switch and have the switch turn on 4 lamp plugs. If not could I program the Lutron Hub to turn on the lamps and would it be instant or a delay as I currently have with Zwave which is why I am looking to upgrade.
Nice video, but i can't believe you were able to get three switches in that gang box with all those wires!! Those screws must feel like my belt after Thanksgiving dinner!
I recently did 4 in one box and my parents and it was so tight the next day it popped and sparks went everywhere. The ground dug into the line wire. I cleaned it up, trimmed the fat, capped the ground and everything fits slightly more comfortable.
I’ve got a couple of Caseta switches, Pico controllers, and the smart hub that were purchased at fire sale prices on eBay, and they all work great. But when I saw the new prices of these things, at first I thought it had to be a misprint. Any switch in the Caseta line is $45-50 on eBay, and I’m not disposed to pay that for a jumped-up light switch.
So, If I understand correctly, the Diva Smart Dimmer will work as a three-way with a regular Claro paddle switch. Given that the Diva Smart Dimmer can be controlled via phone or voice, you don't really need another Diva Smart Dimmer as part of the three-way. The only thing is that the Claro paddle switch will turn the controlled lights on or off, it won't dim, and it isn't smart, but it doesn't have to be since you've already installed a Diva Smart Dimmer on as part of the three-way?
Nice Video! These switches will be a great; more affordable lighting solution compaibile with Control4 since their own switches cost near $200CAD per piece which quickly adds up.
The light will stay at the dim level you set with the app until you turn off the light and turn it back on again. Then it would go back to the slider position. Pushing on a second time goes to full brightness.
@@TechWithBrett thinking about it now I guess I misunderstood. I guess there are two different versions of the switch. One with just two wires in the other with the additional wires needed to function with a distant, mechanical three-way.
Great video! I've had problems with the OG Caseta dimmers causing most LED bulbs to flicker or not turn on unless at over 50% brightness. This includes bulbs Lutron says are compatible with the dimmer and work with non-smart Lutron dimmers. I see the Diva dimmer has "LED+". Will that improve LED bulb compatibility?
Oh ya and does it have to plug in to your eathernet in back of your modem or phone jack? I have 2 eathernet spots on the back of my modem and their both being used if i put a spliter will I lose range? Thanks buddy 👍☺️
Yes it will need to be plugged in over Ethernet so you will need to get an Ethernet Switch with either 4 or 8 ports. They aren't too much and it won't affect the range.
This is true. I will say it is the most feature rich but certainly costly. If you do have a 3-way it is not that you now only need one instead of also buying the extra Pico remote.
If you have a house before say 1980 which is well over half single family housing stick in USA the no neutral needed is essential couple that with Lutron equality competitive ecosystem and universally acknowledged as the most stable reliable bulb fixture agnostic and responsive switch the price is easily justified
Hey Brett, thanks for the Video, a quick question, for a 3way or a 4way . the second / 3rd switch need to be the regular mechanical switches, connected to the hub, right ? this is confusing?
you can use regular mechanical switches or their new Caseta smart Claro Accessory switch. NOT the new Claro regular switch, but the new Claro Accessory switch.
How programmable is the Diva Smart Dimmer? Here's what I want to be able to do: at night (say after midnight) set the dimmer setting to 20% while keeping the light off. If I manually turn on the light after midnight it comes on at 20%. Then reset to 100% in the morning. Can you control the dimming level by schedule without having the light come on? Thx.
Yes you can do it either through automations in the Lutron app (hub required) or you can just keep the slider on the Diva set at 20%. Then tap on once to go to 20% and a second time to go to 100%. The only thing you can't do is have the dimmer slider adjust based on time when you manually turn on the light. It will go to what the slider is set to.
Do you already have this? The Claro switch is better for that. But I'd you are using the Diva you could probably adjust the lower trim of the light to be on step away from off so only on and off function.
@@TechWithBrett i havent bought it yet, the problem is that the claro needs a neutral wire and my house doesnt have it, what happens if I install the diva and someone uses the slider? All mi bulb lights are leds but normal, not dimmable, is there risk of shorcut or worse? Thanks!!!
@@victorzamora1429 If they aren't dimmable bulbs they most likely will dim if they are LED. If you do experience flicker then that is when you need to adjust the lower trim.
Haha! I was waiting for someone to mention that. I'm waiting for the Claro switch to arrive to replace it. It did connect back to the network the next day though.
I have a LED lightstrip in my ceiling. It doesn't dim. Can I still use this? I would like to replace my GE smart light switch. That likes to, turn on itself. And off.
I have found that any lutron dimmer LED+ without a neutral causes annoying buzzing while dimming most LED lights. Those with the neutral have zero audible buzzing/humming.
This is one problem I have had with some of my bulbs even though they are dimmable. I also have non-dimming switches with neutral that still have issues. One solution might bell be to try bulbs from Lutron's tested list: www.lutron.com/en-US/pages/ledcompatibilitytool/compatibility.aspx
Nice job on the video....I would really like to use this switch.... I have lighting under my kitchen cabinets that does not have a neutral wire...so I am thinking this would work great....but will I need to get the Lutron hub to make this work for me..? The combination of the hub and switch is a bit pricey...Your thoughts...
You only need the Hub if you want to connect it to your phone and work with Google or Alexa. Without the Hub you will still have all the dimming controls and can even pair a Pico remote directly to it.
@@TechWithBrett For sure, The PD-6WCL is also just a "cooler" looking switch lol. I do Love these Caseta smart switches though. I have about 10 of them in my house controlling a variety of things. They work Awesome with the app. They get a little glitchy when using them with Google home with multiple people on the account. Sometimes it will work for my wife but not me and visa versa even when attempted seconds after. How is your experience with them and the marriage with google home devices?
@@TechWithBrett Generally you should not be using a smart switch with a smart bulb. Use one or the other. The only exception would probably be using Lutron's Aurora dimmer switch with Hue bulbs.
@@LarryZing Innovelli Switches + Hubitat (or other smart hub) support this with an option to disable the relay (power always on for the light) and clicking buttons fires events to hub, which goes to Phillips hub and to the light (many vias, but its still low latency). I'm curious if the Lutron Caseta Diva relay can be disabled similarly? That would make this switch perfect.
I'm waiting to get links with more details. Thanks for watching!
Do you know how to make android 9 screen SBS for VR?
Is a smart assistant app required to control the lights remotely? Or is smart assistant apart of the Lutron App?
@@theblackat50 it is not required. You can remotely control it from the Lutron app as long it is paired to the Hub and your home and mobile device are connected to the internet. If you do connect it to a smart assistant then you could control it from there as well.
@@TechWithBrett What is Smart Assist? I have an iphone, can i just get a smart Assist App or something. My concern is this: I want to be able to turn my lights on each evening even if my internet is down.
Just installed one. Unbelievably great product, and it works with three way wired switches which is a huge huge huge upgrade.
I have used for Lutron Caseta for years and have worked out great. I use Home Assistant as my home automation centre. Nice that I can use this new dimmer and still have control with HA. Thanks.
Looks like they fixed all of my gripes with the old luttron caseta switches. I have a hard time finding those switches in the dark to turn them on / off without looking. And I wanted the switch to remember the last dim setting that I used.
Very universal switch 👍 great review.
Sorry if you answered this already but I'm trying to set these up as a 3-way dimmer, can I have the other switch be a claro or does it need to be a pico?
This is an awesome product. Can’t wait to install a bunch of these in my home. Loved the Caseta and this is a great addition to the product family. Another high quality product from Lutron.
I'm hoping they continue to release new products in this style, this is a great start!
Is it any thinner than the og caseta? I found them quite thick, always a struggle making them fit in my boxes
So does the rocker always return to a neutral middle position so it can work with remote apps without getting confused about the current on/off state? Similarly, it appears that the mechanical slider will not necessarily be showing the value of the dimming if the dimming value was set via app or other remote. Would have thought that would be worth mentioning in the video. Otherwise, a well-done and informative video, thanks!
I assumed this was why the old ones had the clunky design with a bunch of buttons.
Though personally I don’t really care if the physical controls can be overridden / inaccurate, I really wish they had these a month ago when I decked out my house!!
Yes, it will always return to the slider position from the rocker and voice assistants unless you tell it you want a different brightness then it will just override the slider position. The slider won't show the position if over ridden but the lightbar will. Thanks for question, I just hadn't thought about that.
@@TechWithBrett can you clarify about the rocker position as well?
@@swrobel 4:43
I wish they did a design similar to Lutron Sunnata with caseta smarts. That is the best looking Lutron switch out there!
This looks like to solves my two main Caseta grips. The ability to preset the on brightness, so it doesn't go to full brightness.
I have a lot of recessed lights, and full brightness is just too much most of the time. So currently I have to turn the lights and then turn down the brightness, or use a pico remote. And as some else mentioned, that's hard to do without looking at the switch.
You can "trim" the upper limit on the old caseta dimmers so that they don't go above a particular brightness.
this looks good for my living room
Thanks Brett 💡 🙂
Yet one more thing to share with my Electrician Son.
He's been doing so much in our House for us
for which we're greatly appreciative 😊.
JaneLee - in Suburban Philadelphia
9/13/22
Brett Awesome video always have great content and pick up some good Projects .Thanks so much for sharing Deb ✌️
I refused to buy into the Caseta system since Lutron would not implement a previous state feature. Changed out all my switches with Meross and Kasa. Had 2 Meross switches die. Sometimes the Kasa switches get stupid and forget if they are on or off.
I have (2) 3way lights in the house. 1st was a serious PITA to install smart dual dimmers. For the 2nd I put a dumb rotary dimmer at the line end and a smart 3way switch at the load end. Worked flawlessly except I could not dim remotely.
When the Diva with it's mechanical dimmer remembering previous state was released I finally decided to take the plunge. Wiring is so much simpler with Pico in the 2nd spot.
Now that amazon and googles routines can trigger off a lightswitch I want to change my kitchen dimmer (kasa) to a Diva so I will actually have a switch with the pico when I walk in to the room. But Diva $70 + Pico $20 + wall plate $10 = $100 per lighting circuit! That's a whole lot more than a $20 Kasa dimmer.
Question for ya, my Diva and Pico, paired together, have vastly different on/off ramping/dimming speeds. Is this normal? The Pico has a much slower rate for both on and off. Could it be that the picos were programmed to match the speeds of the original Casetas? Is there a way to change the speeds?
Would you know if the Lutron Caseta Diva dimmer switch is able to directly connect to the Lutron Caseta lamp plugs? I have a room that I want to install the switch and have the switch turn on 4 lamp plugs. If not could I program the Lutron Hub to turn on the lamps and would it be instant or a delay as I currently have with Zwave which is why I am looking to upgrade.
Nice video, but i can't believe you were able to get three switches in that gang box with all those wires!! Those screws must feel like my belt after Thanksgiving dinner!
I recently did 4 in one box and my parents and it was so tight the next day it popped and sparks went everywhere. The ground dug into the line wire. I cleaned it up, trimmed the fat, capped the ground and everything fits slightly more comfortable.
Hi, will Echo dot 4 get Thread update? Example like echo 4? Because echo dot 3 have not Zigbee, it almost same thing, I am confuse about that.
I’ve got a couple of Caseta switches, Pico controllers, and the smart hub that were purchased at fire sale prices on eBay, and they all work great. But when I saw the new prices of these things, at first I thought it had to be a misprint. Any switch in the Caseta line is $45-50 on eBay, and I’m not disposed to pay that for a jumped-up light switch.
So, If I understand correctly, the Diva Smart Dimmer will work as a three-way with a regular Claro paddle switch. Given that the Diva Smart Dimmer can be controlled via phone or voice, you don't really need another Diva Smart Dimmer as part of the three-way. The only thing is that the Claro paddle switch will turn the controlled lights on or off, it won't dim, and it isn't smart, but it doesn't have to be since you've already installed a Diva Smart Dimmer on as part of the three-way?
Nice Video! These switches will be a great; more affordable lighting solution compaibile with Control4 since their own switches cost near $200CAD per piece which quickly adds up.
If you dim with the slider and then dim on the app then the slider is out of sync with the actual dimming level? How does this work?
The light will stay at the dim level you set with the app until you turn off the light and turn it back on again. Then it would go back to the slider position. Pushing on a second time goes to full brightness.
Can it be set to where it fades off when just flipping to off instead of holding it?
Would have liked to see a demo of the 3way with an existing mechanical switch
Once I have the Claro switch and full instructions I will make a demo of how to do that.
@@TechWithBrett thinking about it now I guess I misunderstood. I guess there are two different versions of the switch. One with just two wires in the other with the additional wires needed to function with a distant, mechanical three-way.
Here is a video that explains the various ways it can be wired. th-cam.com/video/JTOT6bideTQ/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I've had problems with the OG Caseta dimmers causing most LED bulbs to flicker or not turn on unless at over 50% brightness. This includes bulbs Lutron says are compatible with the dimmer and work with non-smart Lutron dimmers. I see the Diva dimmer has "LED+". Will that improve LED bulb compatibility?
Did you try programing the switch? I had to do that for some of my lights.
I don’t think so. This does not have ELV
Not for me. Mine have been working for 3 1/2 years already.
Oh ya and does it have to plug in to your eathernet in back of your modem or phone jack? I have 2 eathernet spots on the back of my modem and their both being used if i put a spliter will I lose range? Thanks buddy 👍☺️
Yes it will need to be plugged in over Ethernet so you will need to get an Ethernet Switch with either 4 or 8 ports. They aren't too much and it won't affect the range.
Any idea if this is gonna work with the new matter 1.0 or thread? It’s a total dealbreaker for me and I’m hoping it does. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Nice job. Do you happen to know whether it will work with harmony remotes? Thanks
What if the power goes out . Will it retain its settings Or you have to start from scratch? Thanks mate👍☺️
It will remember the previous settings you have set and we go to whatever setting the light was at before the power went out.
But that price. $70 for one switch? Hard to justify with so many other options on the market.
This is true. I will say it is the most feature rich but certainly costly. If you do have a 3-way it is not that you now only need one instead of also buying the extra Pico remote.
It's too expensive. I figured it would come in at 59.99 same as the original. Even 59.99 is high for these
If you have a house before say 1980 which is well over half single family housing stick in USA the no neutral needed is essential couple that with Lutron equality competitive ecosystem and universally acknowledged as the most stable reliable bulb fixture agnostic and responsive switch the price is easily justified
@@johnwhite2576 70 bucks they should be elv dimmers. No reason they should b 70 when the old was 60. Raised it by 10 just to raise it.
So i need to purchase the hub in order to be able to control it on my phone? Thanks.
Yes. You can use them paired to a Pico remote without a hub.
Great video!
It tells me it’s not supported and it came with the set
Hey Brett, thanks for the Video, a quick question, for a 3way or a 4way . the second / 3rd switch need to be the regular mechanical switches, connected to the hub, right ? this is confusing?
you can use regular mechanical switches or their new Caseta smart Claro Accessory switch. NOT the new Claro regular switch, but the new Claro Accessory switch.
How programmable is the Diva Smart Dimmer? Here's what I want to be able to do: at night (say after midnight) set the dimmer setting to 20% while keeping the light off. If I manually turn on the light after midnight it comes on at 20%. Then reset to 100% in the morning. Can you control the dimming level by schedule without having the light come on? Thx.
Yes you can do it either through automations in the Lutron app (hub required) or you can just keep the slider on the Diva set at 20%. Then tap on once to go to 20% and a second time to go to 100%. The only thing you can't do is have the dimmer slider adjust based on time when you manually turn on the light. It will go to what the slider is set to.
@@TechWithBrett Thanks! That's exactly the explanation I needed (and which is shockingly absent from the Lutron website!)
Glad I could help. Some of their simple features and wiring guides are hidden in the middle of their Advance Wiring Guide which is a bit odd.
Hi, its there a way to disable the dimming slider? I only need the on and off
Do you already have this? The Claro switch is better for that. But I'd you are using the Diva you could probably adjust the lower trim of the light to be on step away from off so only on and off function.
@@TechWithBrett i havent bought it yet, the problem is that the claro needs a neutral wire and my house doesnt have it, what happens if I install the diva and someone uses the slider? All mi bulb lights are leds but normal, not dimmable, is there risk of shorcut or worse? Thanks!!!
@@victorzamora1429 If they aren't dimmable bulbs they most likely will dim if they are LED. If you do experience flicker then that is when you need to adjust the lower trim.
it's seem that your Wemo litgh switch is not connecting to your Wifi network ! ;-)
Haha! I was waiting for someone to mention that. I'm waiting for the Claro switch to arrive to replace it. It did connect back to the network the next day though.
I have a LED lightstrip in my ceiling. It doesn't dim. Can I still use this? I would like to replace my GE smart light switch. That likes to, turn on itself. And off.
It should work if they are compatible with a dimmer. If not they might flicker.
@@TechWithBrett that's what they are doing now. Every once in awhile. My old fluorescent light bulbs did the same. Could it be the wires?
Are they new lights? Then yes I would think there could be a wiring issue. You could change the florescent lights to LED as well.
@@TechWithBrett yes. These are new LED lights.
I have found that any lutron dimmer LED+ without a neutral causes annoying buzzing while dimming most LED lights. Those with the neutral have zero audible buzzing/humming.
This is one problem I have had with some of my bulbs even though they are dimmable. I also have non-dimming switches with neutral that still have issues. One solution might bell be to try bulbs from Lutron's tested list: www.lutron.com/en-US/pages/ledcompatibilitytool/compatibility.aspx
Having trouble actually finding a product link for this on Home Depot or any other retailer...
Looks like it is not quite available yet. I post it as soon as available.
I can't seem to find where to buy this. Every link brings up the Lutron Caseta PD-6WCL
I thought they would have it ready today but haven't seen any link yet. I might go and see if the Home Depot has it.
@@TechWithBrett Ok 👌. Thanks for the review!
Where is the Lutron Smart Motion Dimmer? I've replaced four Lutron dumb motion switches for Brilliant and GE.
There are a lot more products in this style that I hope they release, but right now we will just have to wait.
Nice job on the video....I would really like to use this switch.... I have lighting under my kitchen cabinets that does not have a neutral wire...so I am thinking this would work great....but will I need to get the Lutron hub to make this work for me..? The combination of the hub and switch is a bit pricey...Your thoughts...
Yes, you need the hub
You only need the Hub if you want to connect it to your phone and work with Google or Alexa. Without the Hub you will still have all the dimming controls and can even pair a Pico remote directly to it.
@@TechWithBrett Do you need the Hub if you plan on using w/ Apple Homekit since the AppleTV or HomePod usually acts as a hub for smart devices?
I can’t find any place to buy this. Neither Amazon or Home Depot has available. You can’t buy from Lutron site.
So they said you can pick it up from the Home Depot today. Looks like I'm a bit early before it's available online.
@@TechWithBrett ? Where can we buy them ????
@@TechWithBrett confirmed that is available in store at Home Depot. They had many at mine. I picked up one.
How to setup this smart switch to work with google assistant without a neutral wire? 🤔
Just like I showed then you can link Lutron in the Google Home app.
@@TechWithBrett I think it would be cool to have a smart
Dimmers with no neutral wire and the hug built in...
@@Max86421 i though this at first too, but the hub is not too cumbersome, and it takes a load off your wi-fi router
I like the Lutron Caseta PD-6WCL smart dimmer better, but I dont think that one has 3 way function.
That's is one of the main difference between these. The other is that you can set the switch the right dim level before turning on.
@@TechWithBrett For sure, The PD-6WCL is also just a "cooler" looking switch lol. I do Love these Caseta smart switches though. I have about 10 of them in my house controlling a variety of things. They work Awesome with the app. They get a little glitchy when using them with Google home with multiple people on the account. Sometimes it will work for my wife but not me and visa versa even when attempted seconds after. How is your experience with them and the marriage with google home devices?
Will these work with Phillips Hue bulbs?
It should dim them just fine but there might be some problems when the switch is off.
@@TechWithBrett Generally you should not be using a smart switch with a smart bulb. Use one or the other. The only exception would probably be using Lutron's Aurora dimmer switch with Hue bulbs.
@@LarryZing Innovelli Switches + Hubitat (or other smart hub) support this with an option to disable the relay (power always on for the light) and clicking buttons fires events to hub, which goes to Phillips hub and to the light (many vias, but its still low latency). I'm curious if the Lutron Caseta Diva relay can be disabled similarly? That would make this switch perfect.
tech with Brett
So how much tech do you have to replace or leave in this house so it is usable by the new owner?
I'm leaving most of it. Anything that I can quickly unscrew I will be taking. Planning to do a full video on it.
It’s not in store Yet ????
Will be at The Home Depot soon.
So no diva switch for fans yet ha
Not yet. The Claro Smart Switch does work with a fan, but no speed control. This is how I used it: th-cam.com/video/m07y67hIKNg/w-d-xo.html
Too expensive. Should be priced at 59.99.
Well, I’ll be pulling the old Caseta out immediately.