The Controversial Rise and Fall of Arsenal Fan TV (AFTV)
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The Controversial Rise and Fall of Arsenal Fan TV (AFTV)
The Controversial Rise and Fall of Arsenal Fan TV (AFTV)
The Controversial Rise and Fall of Arsenal Fan TV (AFTV)
Rip Claude, you could see he was a real fan.
absolute legend
Rest In Peace, I wish he could see what Arsenal are doing now
One of my favourites on Aftv enjoyed listening to the funniest rants he's said on the channel
Totally agree despite the fact I’m a Man Utd fan
😂
As an Arsenal I think AFTV was genuine in how they expressed themselves. They reflected the anger that the fans were feeling at the time, although I feel the “the Wenger out” phase was a bit extreme even though I myself wanted Wenger to step down for years.
Watching AFTV after an infuriating loss made me feel better because I knew I wasn’t crazy.
The fact that the actual Arsenal board, Edu and players acknowledge Robbie tells you something
Good point about watching them may make you feel better about your own feelings towards the team, there’s many interviews that was done each week too
Aftv hasn't fallen off. You let them start losing again
This is the first I've heard about AFTV in years, surprised their still going
Aftv will always have a legacy for giving a voice to the everyday fan, and they have evolved. Thanks for creating this video.
Aftv truly peaked at the europa league final
As United fan Rest in peace claude he,s so lucky not seeing arsenal bottled two seasons in row
Followed Robbie for the longest time… he’s a trailblazer and people don’t realize how difficult it is to build a channel…
As a Mexican fan aftv really helped me understand and get a closer look into Arsenal and English football culture. Keep up the good work vizeh
That's fantastic to hear!
Same experience for me, but from Canada.
Same boat I’m American and it really helped me!
A huevo wey
Can you say the time period you we're watching aftv
Great vid however there was one huge omission that I find criminal you left out. That is that AFTV was the catalyst to the explosion of fan channels that upset the balance of power that was held by legacy media (sports radio shows, sky, bbc etc). For years they were the gatekeepers to football and never really gave fans a voice. Talk Sport was worse for just baiting and getting negative reactions by fans, rather than a platform to let people just talk about the club. The main reasons the papers and media went after AFTV was because of jealousy that they were getting way more views and fans were allowed to be as brutally honest about the club with no restrictions. They (legacy media) did everything to try and smear and undermine and destroy fan channels (even the United Stand) and the end what happened? They bowed down and now have personalities from these channels on their stations and channels.
Robbie broke the stranglehold legacy media had on football and allowed fans to have a voice. Arsenal was so badly run Kroenke, yet idiots blamed AFTV for Arsenal doing poorly. They're not thanking AFTV now that Arsenal are top of the league though are they? This is exactly how the elites rule over us, by blaming your fellow sufferer and creating division whilst they continue to rule over you. Well, what happened at Arsenal? The Kroenkes were forced to act and got rid of Wenger and a lot of garbage backroom staff (Gazidis thankfully left) and now we have restructured and rebuilt the club for the modern era and are building a better future. It wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the AFTV and the protests.
It's important to state how much of an impact fan channels have had in football and AFTV kickstarted it all.
I covered it briefly when it came to how mainstream media looked down on them but you are not wrong
You shoulda made a video instead
I think a lot of youtubers would rather see AFTV fail than give it credit for giving voices to the fans and other youtubers. I am almost sure this TH-camrs wouldn't have his platform if Robbie hadn't created AFTV
You have to be an absolute fucking madman to think AFTV should be thanked for Arsenal being top of the league.
Not so long ago you had Troopz printing out ArtetaOut t-shirts plus yelling and swearing for Arteta to “fucking leave my club”
I agree wholeartley with you Ginger, AFTV was and IS the catalyst that made the higher ups start noticing the club. This season Edu was appproached by Robbie and Cecial abs had a warm informative exchange
No other club would take or give their fans notice, unless its money at ticketstands.
Peace..
despite all controversies... AFTV will be remembered as one of the greatest UK you tube channels ever... the lockdown watch alongs lifted them to the iconic status...😂😂 I will never forget the Brighton and Tottenham games... they had the OP lineup.. DT, Troopz, Claude, Ty, Lee Judges and Robbie...
Spot On!
The line-up for those 2 games resembled Pep's Barca
Am I missing something. The channel still exist. Is it closing down or getting cancelled?
The current lineup is like Banter Era Man United, no personalities there. The OG 6 was unrivalled, unfortunately Claude is dead, DT is in the pen and Troopz went across the Atlantic
@@darthvader3465 DT is free and creating content fam yunnastan?
Shame Claude couldn't see this season isn't it
I'm no arsenal fan i used to watch aftv to laugh but I'll say one thing there was some absolute idiots on that channel but Claude wasn't one I liked Claude and agreed with his opinions and it is a shame he didn't get to see arsenal like this now
I think the way we have played this season has really shown that AFTV (at least now) are being genuine with their reactions on games.
If you ignore the memes that came out of Troopz, Ty and DT, AFTV is just a group of really passionate fans talking about the club they love which is why i still very much enjoy their content. Football youtube wouldn't be the same without them.
If I were an Arsenal fan I would love the content they are making now
Ty OP
@@Vizehas an arsenal fan I love the content now and before, because it's real, whether it hurt feelings or not, it was real
Robbie's a great guy. The man had an idea to live off commentating and participating to his favorite football club's life, he makes money out of his passion, he made his passion his very profitable work by connecting the fans world wide. The man's a legend.
He worked hard for many years before the success too, he did 2-3 seasons before it had proper success
@Vizeh yep, saw that after I posted my comment. That's why he was slimmer a decade ago lol. Nothing but respect.
Nah he done Claude dirty, Robbie’s ruthless. Two-faced
@@goodftoest- Agreed. Not only Claude, but Moh as well. Once the money started coming in, he became Robbie the “money grubbing” back stabber.
Prime AFTV was so iconic😂
The GOAT's man
AFTV hasn't fallen. Don Robbie is doing better than ever.
By fall, I mean the controversies that surrounded AFTV as I go into the video, if you watch it I respect AFTV alot and the direction it's gone into now
@@Vizeh AFTV didn't change direction, ARSENAL FC did . Opinions are shaped by atmosphere at a club at any time. The club is in good shape now, hence why people think classic aftv is gone.
The title says arsenal fan tv, not AFTV. They are not the ‘same’ channel.
Joseph A the entertainment value is NOT the same anymore it's golden period is long gone and dead with the likes of Troopz gone to Barstool, Claude passing away, and DT permanently banned, alongside other members no longer there. Only TY is left from the golden 'banter era'
😂😅
RIP Claude, if any fan deserves the success that the club has it's probably Claude. He really wanted the best for the club and although some of his rants were outlandish he truly deserves this Arsenal team
I have the same feeling my friend
Well . . . that did not age well
Rise and fall? I am a United fan, but even I can see that it keeps expanding. It's a massive platform that now includes the Don Robbie channel or DR Sports. That man is a genius, he is even now collaborating with "Expression oozing" to create "The Best Of Enemies." I know some people want to see it fail, but it won't because, like I said, he is a genius, he created opportunities and give voices to the match going fans while entertaining the viewers
As I said, Fall is due to the controverisies they had, mainly by DT their main member of the channel being sent to Prison. I respect the direction they've gone in now
Tbf they’re less fun to watch when Arsenal are doing well
@@Vizeh I don’t really think downfall is the word. Scandals happens all the time if anything aftv have cut ties and with Dt and I think it was handled pretty well. Like my man said it’s always gonna expand.
@@Vizeh how is that a fall? He did something in his personal life and he got immediately dropped by AFTV. Just admit your video title is pure clickbait
Lets be honest. The word "Fall" is a clickbait
I’ve been supporting Arsenal since 2012/2013, and finding Arsenal fan tv has allowed me to be part of the club I love watching along with finding a community of others who love football.. Thank u Robbie
That’s amazing that!
same
@The Nightman Nemeth I like where AFTV is at right now
same
I fell out of love with football for a while but AFTV brought that passion back for me. Without Robbie a lot of football content channels wouldn’t exist. Even probably this one.
Same...
That’s fantastic man!
as an american arsenal fan i have got to respect robbie for what he's done for us fans. even when we were in the dumps during lockdown football, he still had a way of uploading entertaining content during those times. hopefully we can this season on a high note
I never understood the hate AFTV was getting from fans and radio station like talksports.
What I don't like about these guys is that they never give credit to PL winners especially MANCHESTER CITY. they always discredit them .
Personally I don’t think AFTV have completely fallen. Robbie Cecil and the rest are still doing a great job and figures like Ty Turkish and Lee are still there. AFTV helped me understand English football culture and I’ll forever be grateful to them for that. Having said that, yes, views have dipped a bit due to view magnets like DT Troopz Claude (RIP) and Moh not being there anymore. I have a wild wish to see all of them on AFTV at some point in the future, as they made the channel what it is today
I reason why Fall is in the title us due to the controversies surround it that harmed it’s reputation, such as DT going to prison
@@Vizehthey still healthy to me even since DT left lol 😂so don't get it to be honest the quality of their videos and content is way better now plus the reason they not as viral because Arsenal are winning it goes hand in hand with how Arsenal perform
@@Vizeh fair man. I agree with you on that. Great video for real!
@@stevecheevers7337 Yes you're right, but personally I feel that AFTV could do both, have a lot of money coming in through sponsorships as well as have ppl like DT & Troopz. I would even argue that with view magnets like them, they're likely to get EVEN MORE sponsorships 🥲, inspite of what they're like off camera.
Moh is a completely different ball game though, cause his departure was more political than behavioral, and (not saying it's right or wrong) companies may not (and allegedly did not) want to sponsor content in that sort of climate.
AFTV didn’t fall. Arsenal winning now so rival fans can’t go on there to get a laugh. Keep coping and cry more. Now it just real arsenal fans that watch AFTV
You don't have to take a crap on other content creators to make a buzz for yourself. AFTV is not perfect but they don't deserve this
This new deep dive style of content is so good, keep them coming bro
Thank you my bro
AFTV will always have a place in my heart just from the sheer amount of memes that have come out of the channel
We mustn’t forget it’s been raining
RIP to Claude man. I might not be an Arsenal fan but I wish he could see how well they’re doing right now.
The Fall
What u talking aby
As an Arsenal fan
I now just check the match reactions
It became the True Arsenal Fan TV
Before it was just opponent fans bantering us
By the Fall I mean the controversies that it had, for example DT who was the most popular member of their channel going to Prison. In the video I say how much I respect AFTV for what is does now
@@Vizeh ok
I just started watching the video
Well Great Going with the new style of content u are publishing right now 👍🤩
I think all the rumours that they wanted Arsenal to lose were stupid, as an Arsenal fan I’m cussing and swearing about everything they were as well just that i dont have a camera on me. I still watch aftv and curtis shaw tv
Exactly, Some ppl just view things differently. As an Arsenal a fan I've seen some shitty games and terrible players.
They started winning too much, that's the real reason
At first, I didn't really like them, but they grew on me. I'm from Brazil and have never been to the UK, so watching their videos brings me closer to the club and the fans in a way. Plus transfer daily videos are a always a part of my day during transfer windows
I remember the group of fans a few years ago that tried to cause trouble with AFTV. Basically an anti-AFTV group that brought banners to games wanting them "out of our club" and tried starting fights with Robbie and the crew. I could never understand how people could think they were the problem. AFTV was always a place for passionate fans that were reacting to what was happening in the club. Arsenal's problem started long before AFTV was around. It came at a time when fans had had enough and gave them a voice. Some,like Ty,are completely delusional. Some like DT were...aggressive and controversial. But they were still fans who got their voices heard,no matter how mental. And that was exactly what needed to be done at a dark time in the club's history. The fans needed to be heard,and I think Arteta and the players have 100% seen AFTV more than they let on over the years,and I think it may have played a role in the "standards" Arteta talks about. These standards are simply to always give your best performance,leave nothing on the pitch and apply yourself every game. Which is all the fans ever wanted.
I don’t agree at all with the Anti AFTV Group at all, nothing gets solved with Violence. Their platform was for any fan to have their voice heard which is what it should be all about
No, obviously a fan channel isn't the start of a problem, but they can be a strong contributor to perpetuating the problem. When the team is doing poorly, confidence is low and everything is falling apart, the last thing a club, a team, or a player need is unhinged negativity from nutcases being showcased every week. Obviously fans are passionate people and a rant can happen here and there, but AFTV was built around them and I defy anyone to tell me it improved the atmosphere around the club. Fundamentally, the quality of the support a club has shows up not when things are going well, but when things are going badly. Take a look at Liverpool fan media, whether Redmen or TAW, and note the difference. There's a reason some clubs suffered without fans in the stadium during Covid and some flourished. Plenty has been said about fans being the 12th man and whatnot, but much less has been said about the effect of toxic atmospheres around clubs.
@@paulie-g I agree that it never made the atmosphere better,but I think you can't turn a blind eye when things are going wrong. Those fans wanted accountability that they hadn't seen for years.
The difference between AFTV and the Liverpool ones now, is that Arsenal had gone about 12/13 years with no title by the time AFTV became popular. Liverpool fans are still fairly content because they got to a CL last season and won the league in 2020. Give them another 10 years with no trophy and you'll see AFTV "banter era" all over again. Even some of them now are calling for Klopp to go,which of course is ridiculous,but fans have the right to speak their mind,whether you think they deserve it or not. You have to accept that there are lots of different kinds of people out there that love their club and they deserve a voice,even if they are a bit "mad". If you pick and choose,and exclude the "nutcases" as you put it,then you're saying "we won't listen to you because you're weird or different". It comes with the territory. At the end of the day,nobody HAS to listen to it. Put putting it out there is what AFTV was made to do. It's not that much different from the idiots on Talksport spouting nonsense about Arsenal and any other club they don't have an affilliation with,even stilll. Fan channels are essentially serve the same purpose,love it or hate it,it has a right to exist.
@@silverheart7964 Then don't compare with now, compare with the Hicks/Gilette/Hodgson era when we were a whisker away from administration.
I'm all for giving fans a voice and sweeping away the gatekeeping stranglehold old media had on football commentary. Fan channels are fantastic, the rise of technical analysis by individual creators and bigger outfits like Tifo that absolutely wipe the floor with what old media does (yes, even MNF) is amazing. Just watched an excellent in-depth analysis of how Napoli play with Osimhen, how ManU play under Ten Hag, and why Osimhen might not be an ideal fit by a small one-man channel that is heads above anything you'd see on telly or in the papers. This is all great.
However, we want to live in a civilised society. This means we have to discourage certain behaviours. AFTV booted Claude off because of the racial slur, even though it's pretty likely that Claude wasn't an actual racist - he just reached for the meanest thing that popped into his head (in the same way oppo fans who abused Terry for his mum's sexual escapades weren't actual Puritans). Since they've done that, clearly they think there are *some* things that they don't want to put on air, because normalising them would have unacceptable consequences to society. And they continued to keep Claude off even recorded content (that could be edited and so ensured it couldn't happen again) for this momentary lapse because having him back on would send the wrong signal that this sort of thing wasn't a big deal.
So we've established that there *are* behaviours, even though they may be 'natural', 'just happen in a fanbase from time to time', and 'an authentic expression of a passionate fan', that are so undesirable that they must not be given a platform. If that is the case, then I have to wonder why the line is drawn there and not a bit further. It's not about criticism, even impassioned criticism, or profanity, with which I'm perfectly at home. It's about creating a culture where over the top knee-jerk abuse is not the exception but the rule. I think it's terrible and it has spoiled my enjoyment of supporter discussion. Yes, Talksport is horrid as well.
@@paulie-g At the end of the day however, if Footballers, Coaches, Board Directors & Owners cannot meet the expectations of those who support the club they are involved with, then the solution is quite simple...meet those expectations instead.
Because at the end of the day the vast majority of Football Fans are compelled to stick to the club they have supported for all their lives, as if it's a marriage you cannot get a divorce over. That's why it's entirely fair game to for fans demand high expectations in the first place, even if it creates a more negative atmosphere.
what fall? lmao they on the up and up
Being an Arsenal fan all the way from South Africa, this is the only way I can be close to the fan base. The channel makes me feel at home through both the good and bad times. Its a family, families aren't always sunshine and rainbows.
AFTV is non-stop entertainment.
It was class
This is a really interesting subject.
I love the idea of getting true fan reactions in the immediate aftermath of a result. Controversies will always happen with concepts such as this. I have never watched AFTV, but the main guys speech about making money... Just a guy trying to make a living from doing something he loves.
Really enjoyed this. The deep dives you are doing have been well presented, down the middle, giving all perspectives. Have a subscriber!!
Thank you for being here Chris! Grateful that you enjoy them!
So why call this the rise AND FALL??? silly title
as an arsenal fan i will never forget how AFTV treated wenger towards the end the things they said about him were straight up criminal for a guy who built what arsenal are in the prem era and has giving us all our history. Aswell, the average arsenal fan is not the same as the average AFTV character and its how rival fans banter us. While i hate what they did to wenger and how they portray the arsenal community however i stay watch them today just so i can see other happy arsenal fans on our good form rn
I do understand how it's hard for some Arsenal fans to forgive what they used to represent to the club, good to see that you still keep up to date and give them a chance however
Opposition fans loved it then, I think the channel is much better now.
It suprises me how people like you can be so stupid. How hard is it to understand that Aftv is a platform for ALL ARSENAL FANS (both positive and negative) to air their opinion. Common sense should tell you that fans opinion is always shaped by the atmosphere at the club at any particular time.
The atmosphere during Wenger's last years was toxic, hence why so many fans opinion on Aftv were negative. This is just statistics and common sense.
Do you expect aftv to start sensoring fans opinion? Have you watched the channel recently?
@@Vizeh in fairness the last year AFTV has been much better, thanks vizeh
@@lewisdunne1799 because wenger stayed far too long? u want arsenal to be a big club u have to move on from managers not keep them their when things have gone to shit and when the whole club had gone downhill on & off the pitch. footballs a results business. the whole fanbse wants to challenge for the league every season. wenger also started the ‘top 4 is a trophy’ narrative which still infects football to this day. i respect him as a manager but he shouldve left a few years after we stopped challenging for major honours.
As an American fan who played the sport for 17 years but never watched it much aftv helped me show the culture of the clubs fan bases and really helped me get to know and understand the squad! I don’t think they mean any harm to Arsenal.
That’s fantastic!
@@Vizeh the way u are liking and replying to the comments is very commendable videos keep getting better and better 🙌
@@jacksonboyd02 I think it’s important to reply back to comments so that viewers don’t think they are taking to a wall, important for a community I feel
@@Vizeh thats awesome man! Its part of something you do that separates you from others!! Last thing from me a cool video idea for you could be a deep dive into the Liverpool Nottingham Forest F.A cup tragedy. Maybe out it in a iceberg vid! Regardless keep up the great work
I find these investagations to be really really enjoyable, keep it up.
Thank you mate!
Samir Nasri
was it Robbie that allowed all the offensive and disrespectful abuse towards Mr Wenger by his fan tv, aftv crew. For a man that helped to set arsenal fc on top internationally, the most successful manager of Arsenal FC. he deserved better.
I have no issues with AFTV.
This is the second video I've already seen this year that insists AFTV was the first fan channel, when Redmen were around well before them, during the Hicks/Gillett ownership that we forced out. Really disappointing that nobody actually bothers doing the research to get the facts right.
It's only a minor detail, but it grates with me as much as listening to an American talk about WWII starting in 1941
In fact, they were a full 2 years before AFTV, and helped pave the way for them AND the rest that followed.
About time someone started putting respect on Paul Machin and Chris Pajak.
what fall? AFTV is still live and kicking, Don Robbie has is second channel DR sports, thats kicking too. AFTV is the Pioneer of all Fan channels on TH-cam.
American Arsenal fan here! AFTV has great content! I’m a huge fan of them and respect all they have done. Their content really helped me deal with Arsenal’s banter era.
AFTV mainstreamed football fan channels but im 99% sure Redmen were the first as they were created during the H&G era of the club.
I’ve been told that it could be very well true, I hope they don’t kick off at me lol
I love this deep dive type content you're uploading. Keep up the great content
Appreciate the love MV
Robbie always been a gentleman, originally I thought it was a good show until it turned toxic asf but as things at arsenal got better, the content has massively improved
It's the best its ever been rn imo
I agree it's much better now
@@sandboxplayerz667Their views are lowest because Troopz and DT left
As an Arsenal fan I really used to watch them way back in the day, and while they still had some crazy takes it was overall more balanced. I can't deny the sheer quantity of prime iconic clips they made. Nowadays I didn't even remember they existed till this video.
I think that could be now a good thing, that the main people watching them are arsenal fans and that's how it should be really
@@Vizeh yeah, thats prob a good way to look at it. I remember fans from other clubs just flocked to those videos when we lost. Love the new video format man, Keep it up :)
There's an Italian TH-cam channel called "Gabboman". It's 2 roma fans and those guys make aftv look like big brother. Everything comes from the heart. The joy is always pure. They almost never rage but when they do it's sincere. They are always balanced and most importantly the main content is debate about how the club is doing on a daily with very clever arguments and observations and lots of empathy to their followers. England should really have more channels like that. I feel like laurence mckenna on his channel is the closest to that
CONGRATULATIONS TO ROBBIE AND AFTV. Dreams do become reality
As an arsenal fan and a pure lover of football i feel that robbie lyle should be given knighthood for what hes achieved for football fans around the globe as hes made the public voice matter and opened up the game to the world whereas before it was only select players, managers and pundits/media that really had there say and at the end of the day you can clown the people on aftv and try crucify the channel for some of the things relating to the faces on the channel but they really are just regular people that speak in front of a camera on what theyre passionate about so people like DT having troubes of the show shouldnt impact aftv as hes just a regular person and they dont need to be professional cause its just for the fans by the fans but other fanbases can mock it but they have all copied it aswell sooo...
Had to leave this nonsense. 4 min in and nothing said. Clear sign it’s just a baiting show.
Arsenal afv for life! I Love it since the start Robbie 💪💪💪
I remember all the “Arsenal FanTv and Chill” comments after every lost.. I would watch them after all the football was done. Fun times. I wish Claude was still with us, I would’ve love to see him react to this season. Hopefully Arsenal can win it for him.
What on earth this dude talking about. This channel still huge today, even bigger.
RIP CLAUDE he loved The Arsenal more than anything ❤
Arsenal fan TV the realest fan tv ever...There will always be haters..Football is a very emotional game
I do feel they genuinely support arsenal as individuals. But as a group they’re an embarrassment. Literally seen fans parting like the Red Sea around them before and after games. Yes there are fans who talk to them, after 5 mins of fame. But as a whole I feel they benefit when arsenal lose. It was never arsenal fans shoeing me aftv clips. It’s always fans of other clubs showing me clips
i ain't watched this yet but to say they've fell is a bit of a reach, he has 100s of employees a second channel that's booming and get over 7k concurrent viewers with donations constantly. they just don't get viral 3 minute vids cause we as a club aren't in shambles now and other fans don't want to watch our happy fans obvs
I actually think AFTV is much better now than it ever was. I can understand opposition fans loved it when we were shit.....
AFTV has expanded. Its gotten more professional. Well done Robbie.Your headline makes no sense.
I'm the furthest from an Arsenal fan but I'm a massive fan of Aftv and what Robbie built it into today. Although I think it can get toxic at the best of times, its always important to have the unfiltered fan perspective on such a global scale, gives fans worldwide a perspective on the view of fans that can actually visit the stadium and experience it with their own eyes
I never understood how AFTV were made culpable to the state of the club. Give anybody passion, a platform, and a different character to the next person, what you get is a different personality every time. Accepting this is accepting that so long as there is no barrier to entry, it means that you can have literally any personality on the platform go viral. That virality is not dictated by the involved party but by the audience. Sure they are involved but they play a small part. Given this paradigm, how can someone arrive at the conclusion that AFTV is the source of negativity around the club like the concept of negativity brewing in terrible times for football was a novel concept spawned by AFTV? If anything the club were to blame. You are literally the catalyst for majority of what fans feel. Its quite simple really, win relentlessly and lose sensibly, and AFTV (at least in that form) doesn't exist. This concept of blindly positive and passionate supporting fans as a whole doesn't exist. Why Talk Sport couldn't see the irony was baffling.
The Wegner Out era was so wild...
Truly insane
Title is redundant because AFTV has evolved and grown from strength to strength 💪🏿
Jamaican living in USA...AFTV is my first go to Chanel for Arsenal news and updates
So many iconic clips in that intro 💀😂
The GOAT of the industry
@@Vizeh first person to reply to a comment on this video
I am surprised he missed the 'Maupay you are a cheat. i wish brighton get relegated' clip
Ingnoring AFTV is the best way for an Arsenal fan.
Love Arsenalfantv… even when we sucked it was good to hear someone echoing my opinions and the team was shit so you can’t blame the fans for complaining about it
Rise and fall ? Doughnut their still on top.
It’s not even a fall as much as it millions of opposing fans no longer interested because Arsenal is doing so well and the content is positive and wholesome again. AFTV will always survive because what it means to the fans. This channel really kept me sane during the pandemic s/o the Don
That’s why bellerin never made it at the club too busy worrying about fashion and aftv
Vizeh has really revived his channel keep posting bangers
Legend!
All Robbie is bothered about is money !!
I'm from Malaysia, I enjoy watching AFTV because of they interview varieties of interesting fans with their opinion. However more I watch the more I realise it's more reactive rather then a calm assessment of the situation. I guess it's pretty hard especially when Arsenal just lost a game and they are being interview after the game outside the stadium and emotions are still running high.
As i always prefer Arseblog and Arsenal vision podcast due to thee calm nature and analytical view, i realIse AFTV is heading at this direction as well, more on analysis and less controversial figures would help, such as DT.
But hey, it's all easy when Arsenal is winning. And let's hope it's that way
The moral of the story is that if you watch something and you don't like it, stop watching it. If you do that and you find the thing is still popular, accept that sometimes you just don't like the popular thing and move on with your life.
Aftv is not only about the after game fan interviews. Robbie and his team are doing great by bringing in various content. They have box to box, tactical show etc. for foreign fans, aftv has helped understand the football culture in a bwtter way. They also participate in fund raise and awareness programs. Love AFTV.
I don’t know why people need to blame AFTV for things that have been said on their platform, it’s just Arsenal fans talking. If you don’t like AFTV, you don’t like fans. The idea that Robbie should control what people say is ludicrous.
I can't in good conscience say that AFTV have been an embarrassment. They have accurately reflected the mood of the Arsenal fan base.
Arsenal deserves no sympathy... They got rid of wenger like some dog!
Can you imagine that happening to ferguson, paisley etc? I'm not even an ARSENAL fan & that was disgusting!
I didn't realise they'd fallen. They still appear in my recommended alot. I don't watch them but they're there.
You don't watch them because we are doing good now.
@@Outplays_ False. I never watched them when we were bad. This year I watched a couple of watch alongs when I couldn't watch the match for whatever reason so I've seen more of them this year than ever before.
The sexual tension between Claud and robbie is insane
What😂😂
I’ve met robbie, troopz and kelechi after a few matches and honestly they’re so sound, open to chatting about arsenal, always down to take photos and they’re just football fans at the end of the day with opinions. I’ve always loved AFTV. Just because they had different opinions at the time they didn’t deserve the treatment they got from our fans.
Great Vid, Robbie deserves a lot of respect for building an original platform in the media world, not bullshit for making money. BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we stop this terrible faux video look? It seems to be fashionable at the mo but it's amateurish - just really distracting and who wants to be reminded of shitty video tapes from the 80's?
(Now 70's saturated film look - that's cool!!!).
What a fucking ride this era of Arsenal was. Being an Arsenal fan was so tiring back then 😂
The Banter era was a rough time man
aftv hasnt fallen off whats that title
By fall I mean the controversies that it's had, one main one is the damage to it's reputation when DT got sent to prison.
Arsenal fan here. Reacted to the title without watching. Gave it a thumbs down. Watch the entire video. Loved the video.👍🏿 I still think the title is a little clickbaity(is that a word)
Shoutout to Mikel for uniting the fanbase❤
By winning fcuk all for 3 years
Im an Arsenal fan. I have never liked and most likely never will like AFTV. Always thought it was a joke and embrassing and they brought a very very toxic fanbase which made us more of laughing stock and hurt the club. I do think during the hype of it that it was just about the views and the money when you would see the regulars being interviewed all the time and not really seeing anyone new with a different view from someone maybe. It was almost like a cult in a way. I get idea of the channel and what its supposed to do but once the negative hits started rolling in then thats where it changed and became embarrassing. I get that they are passionate but they just poured in toxic especially around the Wenger out era, in which that was something Wenger did NOT deserve. With most of the toxic ones gone and if they are interviewing different people a lot of the time then i may give them go but will highly be unlikely i will do that.
They’ve got 1.53m subs.. they are not on a decline 😂
The main problem with AFTV is the sheer delusion and entitlement of the people they have on it. I get it it makes good videos, it gets clicks but at the same time it makes your fans looked like lunatics that are completely detached from reality. Noone watched AFTV unless they get battered or even moderately beat, then we all watch in some kind of sadist group as they angered unhinged fans go ballistic. It's entertaining at the same time I'm not sure it's good for Arsenal as a club to have this bizarre side show attached to them.
Fall????
if your assumption that AFTV pioneered the fan yt channel market then I'm glad they did Because without them there wouldn't be United stand, which is, as a united fan, great content to consume besides the 90 min of watching my club
AFTV is a channel I'll never fully respect, outside of the many talented people who started out there as creators. I can absolutely see a world where AFTV wouldn't exist and the "banter" era would end a lot faster
I'm a united fan but I love aftv
Stop being toxic we don’t need this at our club
Let them do their thing if you don’t like it don’t watch it!!!
We’re leading the table and you are talking about aftv !! Come on man grow up and focus on your team leading the table!!
I don’t like what they used to do back in the day but I don’t see them doing something wrong now at least
AFTV are the goats.
Claude was rightfully banned absolutely disgusting behaviour and considering the main host Robbie is black this kind of thing will hit hard for Robbie as he’ll undoubtedly have dealt with a lot of racism
Arsenal fan from the US since 2003. I have felt so much over the years supporting the club and I am glad to have AFTV for so many years because getting excited over the ozil signing on your own isnt the most fun but when you see in practically real time the same or opposite reaction you had to the news it drives the bond with the team even further. I fell in love with the club because it has always stayed trtue to its valuses and plays beautifully, no fosil football play only to win but play to win and win beautifully like nowadays and highbury days. even through the dark wenger years he kept us afloat with substandard budget. AFTV helped vent frustrations after loses and added to the joy of big wins. Arteta has embraced the fruits of AFTV and has pointed the ship in the right direction. I have made the pilgrimage and have watched Arsenal play irl, lost to manu at home 3-1. I was in the nosebleeds and was yelling at the match, I was hushed by ushers, "is this a library? are you tottenham in disguise?" this would not happen to me now...Im glad for it. AFTV has had a huge part to do with getting that place nice and loud. Robbie is going to need a statue at the ground even if he was never directly involved or bankrolled by Arsenal directly.
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@@clintstewart5545 your boyfriend bbl is plastic