As a game, it is not a good game and even people who have defended this title have said that it had more problems than good but the ideas here are the opposite and we can at least appreciate that along with the music which isn't the greatest but wasn't as soulless or awful as other people made it out to be.
After listening to this theme while playing Sonic X Shadow Generations in some levels in Shadow’s Story,it ended up making it my favorite theme from this game
I actually really liked this stage. Not only was the music extremely catchy but you got to see Shadow doing what he does best. Helping others in need which was his true purpose after all.
@@DowntownWithBrownIn The Doom, Black Doom is pulling a piece of Shadow’s memory into some kind of illusion, hence why Dooms Eye is here. He’s basically reliving what happened with Maria Lost Impact is more-so an actual flashback, hence why no Dooms Eye or even a dark mission.
@@ChainikVlad very specifically atmospheric jungle, but that's being nitpicky lol. Jungle is such a great genre
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@@exist4046 Drum and Bass is a subgenre of Jungle, by 95, DnB was a more 'elegant' version of Jungle. Since the scene was staring to get riddled with more Reggae-influenced beats compared to the 3 years prior. Artists like Goldie, 4hero and LTJ Bukem were pioneering a new sound of Jungle that would become Drum and Bass. By 1997-1999, what would become Atmospheric Jungle ((or Liquid Drum and Bass) would plague the radio stations afterwards. Getting songs like Piano Tune and Timeless (Inner City Life, Pressure and Jah). VGM didn't really start using this form of DnB til 1998. Maybe even before then.
@@katelynbodiford5680 GUN isn't even evil, just Questionable and Incompetent. They're the Guardian Unit of Nations, and they take their damn job seriously- which does little to compensate for how bad they are at it. That's Rouge's- and following this game, Team Dark's- job. GUN is trying- and failing, because they're bad- to protect people, most of the time. There is the whole "scapegoating sonic" thing they did in their introductory game, which was... not what they should've done but there was _some_ logic behind it- they didn't want the public to find out about Shadow, they had PR to keep. They're less "villain" and more "hazard," Team Dark notwithstanding. - Eggman, meanwhile, is out for himself. He wants _his_ world, not anyone elses, and he wants to take over to make his world. He captures innocent animals and uses them for energy(odd choice but defo evil) and antagonizes people who just want to live in peace. He causes problems out of narcissistic megalomania and greed, or recklessly messing with things he shouldn't. He's a simple villain, sure, but he's still legit evil, as opposed to GUN's wild incompetence- but when the chips are down... - Shit like Mephiles or Black Doom, posing a threat to the world as a whole, force Eggman to team up with his worst enemies and do something good. He'll hesitate if it means teaming up with Sonic, sure, but when it's the world at stake, the one he wants to conquer, he'll help save it, even if only for his own sake. He's still one of the bastards who lives in it after all. And since GUN can't bloody pull their weight without Shadow, he's kinda gotta when he's gotta. - Anyway, my point is, you've got the order _completely_ wrong.
@NocturneArchunterKellianth attack Eggman when their planet is literally being raided by aliens Man can't help fight them if he can't even leave his bases
Shadow: "Ugh, fine!" *crawls the maze-like ARK looking for the researchers, eventually manages to help them all* Researchers: *get shot and killed anyway* Shadow: "... NOW can we go?"
I love the feeling that the two memory stages give off through the ost. They're both very different, but so fitting for what they were each going for. Lost Impact's slow piano was pure melancholy. Shadow is suddenly reliving a memory on the ARK with Maria. There's no major level of urgency outside of Maria's request, so Shadow is taking in the experience, trying to prolong the time he has with Maria just that little bit longer, but he knows it's only a memory, and no matter how much he wants otherwise, it is inevitebly going to end. He doesn't want to let go just yet, but knows he has to. The Doom is completely different. Shadow is forced to relive the most horrible day of his life: The day he lost Maria forever. He is desperately running through the ARK, keeping as tight a grip as he can on Maria to keep ahead of the GUN troops, and while he knows that this is a memory, a part of him is hoping in vain that he will not only keep ahead of them, but somehow manage to change events and save her life. This is Shadow's final desperate attempt to defy fate and give Maria the chance to live. I'd say that this is kinda reflected a little in the missions too, like he's faced with multiple ways of trying to go about this. He can rush with Maria straight to a safe place and focus on her safety, make an attempt to save others aboard the ARK and try to have at least someone survive, or just fight off the GUN forces himself to keep them off of everyone's back. He sees multiple different opportunities and hopes that picking the right option will somehow change things, but nothing works. No matter what he does, he can't save her, but he's still not able to accept that yet.
Great analysis! I wonder if the neutral mission of Lost Impact leads to Shadow feeling guilty about doing nothing to stop the Artificial Chaos and making GUN step in, possibly making them consider shutting down the Ark. It would tie in nicely with Shadow's guilt in both endings of Cosmic Fall. All that's left is for Shadow to confirm his creation as the final catalyst for the GUN raid or to remain ignorant and only know that the Ark is his home.
It does make me wonder: Did Black Doom embellish Shadow's past by adding Heavy Dog to goad Shadow into giving into violence? OR Was GUN genuinely just _that_ terrified of Gerald's project that they brought in the heavy artillery just to make damn sure that the finished form of Project Shadow was successfully destroyed?
@@markusmccloud Honestly, I feel like either is entirely possible. It's definitely not above Black Doom to embellish events in order to further build Shadow's hatred for humanity and drive him against them. On the flip side, some have suggested that the Commander was the one who warned Earth about Gerald's experiments after witnessing Shadow's birth at the hands of Gerald and Black Doom as a child, so GUN could very well have taken the idea of 2 potential monsters seriosuly enough that they felt that sending Heavy Dog was necessary.
@@DanishThePenguin Could be. I don't think he was the one who told them though. He was a child when everything happened. His parents or his guardian perhaps? I figure there was a lot of people concerned about Project Shadow as well, specially after the Biolizard creation, so I think GUN took their testimonies seriously.
@@markusmccloud Since Shadow seems to recall things when triggered by similar events (i.e. he remembered Sonic after racing against him), I think he would be able to tell if something similar happened or not. As far as I remember, he doesn't mention that event didn't happen or seemed surprised by it. He even looked annoyed at first and later furious after talking to Black Doom. That's why I believe the fight actually happened, but it could've been changed somehow by Black Doom. Maybe the missils were added to make it look more menacing to Maria's safety and pushing him to fight back. That would definitely instigue Shadow's hatred for humans.
This game is known as the edgelord game... let it be known that SEGA at least attempted a real dark spin off of a main series. Not many companies are so bold and then successful. This game stuck with us, whether or not you liked it. That’s making a game memorable... here’s to you, Shadow! Praise dat ultimate life form
yeah and they did this after getting a letter from a fan saying they thought Sonic should have a gun, they thought the idea had merit but thought Shadow would be a better fit and i'm glad that fan had the courage to make his thoughts known to Sega.
Oi, tis a 'orrible thought to think that SEGA might never make another Shadow The Hedgehog, but as long as I replay it, I will always hope for another game. We should vote for another Shadow The Hedgehog instead of politicians.
How to make hero mission easier here? Simple: 1. Complete hero ending (any of them or both, would be even better). 2. Get a healing gun. 3. Shoot everyone.
No way lol. I’m sure that gun was made specifically for this level lol. Like how you only lose 10 rings when you get hit is only in the game because of Circus Park.
@@e-tean-son4146Totally viable. I think a lot of people feel compelled to do every mission possible in the game, but there’s a reason why the branching paths exist: to give you options. To tailor your experience to match you, and to only do the content you want to do. Unless you want to do the challenge mode, don’t bother with the missions you don’t like.
@@Hewasnumber1 to be fair, i only like like 9 missions out of 34, i don't hate all the missions but a lot of them are either really generic and un-evenful, poorly executed or both. If i had to choose between wasting my time playing those missions or watching the combat animations of FE9 i will pick the FE9 animations. At least the animations are cool
Since this stage is technically a flashback, I wonder if, canonically, Shadow did try to rescue the researchers with Maria, and it took long enough (plus enough soldiers spotted them running around) that it’s why the two ended up cornered in the capsule room where Maria got shot.
I swore, I had a dream about a stage in this game that had Sonic as the Evil Mission. It was one similar to the two Maria Levels, where Maria wanted you to stop the Arificial Chaos, just like Lost Impact. Except when you opened the menu, Somic was there standing in the Evil Side.
My take: It's called The Doom because its the only level in the game where your choices are truly meaningless, they are different paths that lead to the same outcome: The Doom of Shadow's world and everyone he ever cared about.
It did, English dubbing tarnished it's reputation unfortunately amongst the west, if you want a good story I recommend you watch the Japanese cutscenes
@@aarondoesyt3194 I don't see how localisation could've possibly ruined it. The story's biggest problem is just how incoherent and nonsensical it is. Changes in dialogue and interactions don't suddenly fix something like that.
@@definitelynotapervert5602 Well, A) the dub butchered many sincere lines and important plot elements with tryhard attempts at being edgy, so the game is now forever remembered by such gems as "Where's that ĐÆMÑ 4th Chaos Emerald", pretty much destroying any chance of it ever being taken seriously, and B) The storyline is incoherent because it's not a single continuous plot. It's different possibilites of Shadow's future playing out. None of the (subbed) endings are particularly egregious or out of character for Shadow, and all carry themes from SA2 Not that I think any of this will convince you of anything. This game has already cemented itself as a laughingstock of video game culture. No amount of reasoning could ever convince someone that Shadow the Hedgehog holding a gun isn't stupid. And despite SA2 proving Shadow had the capacity to be a remorseless killer under altered memories, no amount of convincing would ever deter a Sonic fan from thinking this game assassinated Shadow's character and made him a joke. It's just a law of nature now. The sky is blue, the earth is round, and Shadow the Hedgehog is a dumb video game.
Tbh this is such an amazing piece, truly odd that it’s not on the Spotify ost for this game tho Also I’ve been using this song so much in SXS Gens lmao
@@AstroTom Yeah very eerie and I imagine a Shadow the Hedgehog 2 sequel game where Shadow's death scene animations are more brutal sad and dark but not bloody although it can have a bloody squish sound that happens when he's hit.
Y'know, for how bad Black Doom is as a character, I gotta admit he makes a fantastic guide. In fact, his advice has been the most useful for me throughout the whole game.
@@KingKayro87"Go down." "Go up." "Shadow, use that." "Shadow, where are you going?" He's more direct than everyone else, too. Very stern and demanding, but helpful
The one hero mission where you have to find the artificial chaos to me half an hour cos of this last one. Turns out it was hidden away on that track right after Maria said to keep an eye out...
There’s something unsettling about this level that creeps me out. It’s not the music but the music adds onto it. It’s what doom eye says through out the level.
"shadow is an edgelord game" then when you hear the ost, most of it doesn't even have a guitar in it. i dont care, this game has a special place in my heart. it was like sonic heroes, but with all the bugs fixed.....well most of the bugs fixed
Even when the guitar is used in tracks, it really helps set the tone. My favorite example is GUN Fortress, where the song instead of being fast and chaotic it's a medium paced depressing song. It REALLY helps set the vibe for "last level of the bad ending"
I actually quite liked Lost Impact. I felt it was pretty chill and cool. And since I could just look on the walls to see the map and determine where I have to go before I continue, it was pretty easy to find all the Artificial Chaos. The Doom can kiss my ass and suck my left nut, though. The entire place is a maze, trying to find all of the injured scientists is a goddamn chore, getting out of the place is a hassle, the bossfight afterwards sucks ass, and the Dark Mission is genuinely broken. Like seriously, sometimes the GUN soldiers won't even spawn and I have to go back and forth between checkpoints to get a chance at killing them.
Sonic Heroes 2 Dialogue: Knuckles: What the heck is going on? Tails: It appears we're at the Space Colony Ark, But only 50 years ago. Sonic: So this is where Shadow... Uh oh we gotta keep moving.
Marine: Wow look at all this high tech stuff! Do you guys think this can fetch a pretty penny on the high seas? Blaze: This area appears to be the Ark, the place Shadow told us about earlier. But he said the place was destroyed a while ago. Silver: Then this must be the Ark at least 50 years in the past! This isn't right! We gotta find some way to go back to Sonic's current time!
Shadow: ... Rouge: Shadow, is this..? Omega: This is a 50 years ago when the ARK was still functional, but only a memory not real. Shadow: let's go already
Here after the new Sonic x Shadow Generations trailer. If a remix of this makes it in somehow... I'll shit bricks. Edit: It's not in is it? Looked it up and... that's like the only thing that appears. Man, that's sad. I would've loved a remix...
![Supporting Me - Sonic Adventure 2 [OST]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VXeIRsqqFbA/mqdefault.jpg)
![Supporting Me - Sonic Adventure 2 [OST]](/img/tr.png)
![Gun Fortress - Shadow the Hedgehog [OST]](/img/n.gif)
Pretty chill sounding for a track literally titled “The Doom”.
My thoughts exactly
Probably a refernce to the outcome of this memory, since you can't change the past.
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It's almost as if The music had this slight hint of Karous' presence
Well it’s about Maria. It has to have a sweet element to it
Crazy how they used this OST several times in today's Sonic Central, gotta love how Shadow the Hedgehog is finally being appreciated as a game
In Prem’s reaction video to the central someone in his chat told him the name of this one and it’s how I got here lol
As a game, it is not a good game and even people who have defended this title have said that it had more problems than good but the ideas here are the opposite and we can at least appreciate that along with the music which isn't the greatest but wasn't as soulless or awful as other people made it out to be.
They used it only ONE time
@@Splatboy0612one time is better than none for the past 10 years 💀💀
@@NoNamex1412 I know.
After listening to this theme while playing Sonic X Shadow Generations in some levels in Shadow’s Story,it ended up making it my favorite theme from this game
Same here! Right when I heard this, I fell in love with it! Jungle/DnB, (yes I know its not really dnb but still) my beloved.
@@KennethWilliams-vd4gv Yeah especially how chill and a bit intense it sounds
I actually really liked this stage. Not only was the music extremely catchy but you got to see Shadow doing what he does best. Helping others in need which was his true purpose after all.
Except for how it's still possible to become Black Doom's servant after doing the Hero mission here.
@@DowntownWithBrown If you chose to.
Well it was confusing navigating the room thats for sure. So fitting name, this is The Doom level
@@DowntownWithBrownIn The Doom, Black Doom is pulling a piece of Shadow’s memory into some kind of illusion, hence why Dooms Eye is here. He’s basically reliving what happened with Maria
Lost Impact is more-so an actual flashback, hence why no Dooms Eye or even a dark mission.
Exactly.
This is unironically a great jungle track. It reminds me of late 90's atmospheric DnB DJs like Photek and LTJ Bukem.
Many japanese video game OSTs are inspired by 90s Jungle/DnB/(Deep) House
Is that what the genre is here? Jungle DnB Deep house? Definitely looking for more like the tracks similar to this one in this OST
@@billclintonsmagicbeefarm no, just Jungle.
DnB or House sound similar, but this track is definetly just Jungle (or even Breakbeat)
@@ChainikVlad very specifically atmospheric jungle, but that's being nitpicky lol. Jungle is such a great genre
@@exist4046 Drum and Bass is a subgenre of Jungle, by 95, DnB was a more 'elegant' version of Jungle. Since the scene was staring to get riddled with more Reggae-influenced beats compared to the 3 years prior. Artists like Goldie, 4hero and LTJ Bukem were pioneering a new sound of Jungle that would become Drum and Bass. By 1997-1999, what would become Atmospheric Jungle ((or Liquid Drum and Bass) would plague the radio stations afterwards. Getting songs like Piano Tune and Timeless (Inner City Life, Pressure and Jah). VGM didn't really start using this form of DnB til 1998. Maybe even before then.
This stage was LOOOOOONG
You're thinking of Lost Impact, this was normal but Lost Impact is 50 DBZ episodes long.
Jman-Sama Both
Especially that dark mission. Finding and destroying all 60 G.U.N. forces was a drag.
@@chrismathgenius
I like this location and its music.
Over a decade later I still agree. I could probably do it now but back then, it was a huge pain.
"He is wounded...why has this tragedy occurred?...Think about it."
Why???
GUN ruins everything
@@rejisha
Yeah GUN is a better villain than Eggman Eggman is a loser and GUN is more evil than him and even Mephiles the Dark is better than Eggman.
@@katelynbodiford5680 GUN isn't even evil, just Questionable and Incompetent. They're the Guardian Unit of Nations, and they take their damn job seriously- which does little to compensate for how bad they are at it. That's Rouge's- and following this game, Team Dark's- job. GUN is trying- and failing, because they're bad- to protect people, most of the time. There is the whole "scapegoating sonic" thing they did in their introductory game, which was... not what they should've done but there was _some_ logic behind it- they didn't want the public to find out about Shadow, they had PR to keep. They're less "villain" and more "hazard," Team Dark notwithstanding.
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Eggman, meanwhile, is out for himself. He wants _his_ world, not anyone elses, and he wants to take over to make his world. He captures innocent animals and uses them for energy(odd choice but defo evil) and antagonizes people who just want to live in peace. He causes problems out of narcissistic megalomania and greed, or recklessly messing with things he shouldn't. He's a simple villain, sure, but he's still legit evil, as opposed to GUN's wild incompetence- but when the chips are down...
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Shit like Mephiles or Black Doom, posing a threat to the world as a whole, force Eggman to team up with his worst enemies and do something good. He'll hesitate if it means teaming up with Sonic, sure, but when it's the world at stake, the one he wants to conquer, he'll help save it, even if only for his own sake. He's still one of the bastards who lives in it after all. And since GUN can't bloody pull their weight without Shadow, he's kinda gotta when he's gotta.
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Anyway, my point is, you've got the order _completely_ wrong.
@NocturneArchunterKellianth attack Eggman when their planet is literally being raided by aliens
Man can't help fight them if he can't even leave his bases
"Shadow, I just can't leave everyone else behind. Please! You need rescue the people being held by the GUN soldiers in the laboratory!"
"Remember... You were attacked by the humans, here. You know what you must do! Finish them off!"
Shadow: "Ugh, fine!" *crawls the maze-like ARK looking for the researchers, eventually manages to help them all*
Researchers: *get shot and killed anyway*
Shadow: "... NOW can we go?"
Someguyhere111 I'M WHEEZING
Black Doom: Kill those soldiers.
Maria: Save the researchers!
Shadow: _Damn it! The hell am I supposed to do!?_
@keybladeciel3716
Shadow: "Can't I do both?"
Doom and Maria: "No!"
Shadow: "Well, that doesn't make things easier!"
This sounds like Shadow's version of Aquatic Base
yes
It’s actually Aquatic mine but close enough 😂
tristan boyles No, he means Aquatic Base from Sonic 06
Agreed!!!! This literally sounds so much like the "Aquatic Base" stage from Sonic 06. I love it, I love it, I LOVE IT.
Aquatic Base Act 2
The most brilliant thing about this level is that the two mission guides are complete opposites of each other.
I love the feeling that the two memory stages give off through the ost. They're both very different, but so fitting for what they were each going for.
Lost Impact's slow piano was pure melancholy. Shadow is suddenly reliving a memory on the ARK with Maria. There's no major level of urgency outside of Maria's request, so Shadow is taking in the experience, trying to prolong the time he has with Maria just that little bit longer, but he knows it's only a memory, and no matter how much he wants otherwise, it is inevitebly going to end. He doesn't want to let go just yet, but knows he has to.
The Doom is completely different. Shadow is forced to relive the most horrible day of his life: The day he lost Maria forever. He is desperately running through the ARK, keeping as tight a grip as he can on Maria to keep ahead of the GUN troops, and while he knows that this is a memory, a part of him is hoping in vain that he will not only keep ahead of them, but somehow manage to change events and save her life. This is Shadow's final desperate attempt to defy fate and give Maria the chance to live. I'd say that this is kinda reflected a little in the missions too, like he's faced with multiple ways of trying to go about this. He can rush with Maria straight to a safe place and focus on her safety, make an attempt to save others aboard the ARK and try to have at least someone survive, or just fight off the GUN forces himself to keep them off of everyone's back. He sees multiple different opportunities and hopes that picking the right option will somehow change things, but nothing works. No matter what he does, he can't save her, but he's still not able to accept that yet.
Great analysis! I wonder if the neutral mission of Lost Impact leads to Shadow feeling guilty about doing nothing to stop the Artificial Chaos and making GUN step in, possibly making them consider shutting down the Ark. It would tie in nicely with Shadow's guilt in both endings of Cosmic Fall. All that's left is for Shadow to confirm his creation as the final catalyst for the GUN raid or to remain ignorant and only know that the Ark is his home.
It does make me wonder:
Did Black Doom embellish Shadow's past by adding Heavy Dog to goad Shadow into giving into violence?
OR
Was GUN genuinely just _that_ terrified of Gerald's project that they brought in the heavy artillery just to make damn sure that the finished form of Project Shadow was successfully destroyed?
@@markusmccloud Honestly, I feel like either is entirely possible. It's definitely not above Black Doom to embellish events in order to further build Shadow's hatred for humanity and drive him against them.
On the flip side, some have suggested that the Commander was the one who warned Earth about Gerald's experiments after witnessing Shadow's birth at the hands of Gerald and Black Doom as a child, so GUN could very well have taken the idea of 2 potential monsters seriosuly enough that they felt that sending Heavy Dog was necessary.
@@DanishThePenguin Could be. I don't think he was the one who told them though. He was a child when everything happened. His parents or his guardian perhaps? I figure there was a lot of people concerned about Project Shadow as well, specially after the Biolizard creation, so I think GUN took their testimonies seriously.
@@markusmccloud Since Shadow seems to recall things when triggered by similar events (i.e. he remembered Sonic after racing against him), I think he would be able to tell if something similar happened or not. As far as I remember, he doesn't mention that event didn't happen or seemed surprised by it. He even looked annoyed at first and later furious after talking to Black Doom. That's why I believe the fight actually happened, but it could've been changed somehow by Black Doom. Maybe the missils were added to make it look more menacing to Maria's safety and pushing him to fight back. That would definitely instigue Shadow's hatred for humans.
Dooms eye: "Take revenge on the soldiers."
Shadow: " I've gotta help Maria escape."
Maria: "Please, rescue the others."
"The Heal Unit, Grandfather's greatest invention!"
TheLegend you got me there lmfao
Shadow: Wow Maria, I'm standing right here
“This healing unit...why do human beings cling to their wretched existence?”
WHY ARE THEY ATTACKING US
has to be one of the best songs i've heard off a game soundtrack
cay.ville agreed, but the stage was a pain in the ass 😧
You must not listen to sonic tracks often then or play many video games
@@tyratooOP Truth
@@tyratooOP no bro this songs good as fuck.
@@nicodemuslee I wasn't saying it was bad
One of the best themes in Sonic franchise.
Drum and Bass is so good.
I've heard this song more times than I can count. I just now notice this has got Jungle/DnB elements!
It has a nice break-type beat but the pattern is far from being those in DnB (amen break).
Also jazz
@@mounsterchef DnB isn't only amen break ya know
But yeah if you call this breakbeat I can't argue with that.
@@mynewaccount2361 Oh I know, but it's kinda like a stereotype of DnB
@@TeckGeck Cool playlist you have of Jungle/DnB in games. Sometimes i see you in some videos haha.
This game is known as the edgelord game... let it be known that SEGA at least attempted a real dark spin off of a main series. Not many companies are so bold and then successful. This game stuck with us, whether or not you liked it. That’s making a game memorable... here’s to you, Shadow! Praise dat ultimate life form
yeah and they did this after getting a letter from a fan saying they thought Sonic should have a gun, they thought the idea had merit but thought Shadow would be a better fit and i'm glad that fan had the courage to make his thoughts known to Sega.
Edge is in Shadow's middle name.
@@TheNamelessOne888 His full name is: "Shadow Edge Lord"
The attempt doesn't over weight my lacking enjoyment of the game sadly
@e-tean-son4146 This game is @$$ but the music is good
Somehow when I think of Shadow the Hedgehog's OST, this is always the first song that pops up in my head strangely enough.
Dude, ditto.
Bring me back to 2005, when I was 10 and had no care in the world and this game 😢
"Shadow! How is your training going? I'll be cheering you on! Here, you have to rescue all of the wounded researchers. Good luck!"
Still listening in 2018. I can't forget this game, it's a part of my childhood, despite the questionable story.
I didn't know you liked this game
I love this game too
Oi, tis a 'orrible thought to think that SEGA might never make another Shadow The Hedgehog, but as long as I replay it, I will always hope for another game. We should vote for another Shadow The Hedgehog instead of politicians.
I had to buy this game again, because I needed to relive its gloriousness.
@@saywhatnow3438 where the hell did you buy it at? I WOULD KILL TO BUY THIS GAME AGAIN
Thank you for compiling all the songs you have, it’s really helpful. Wherever you are, please be safe and good luck.
How to make hero mission easier here? Simple:
1. Complete hero ending (any of them or both, would be even better).
2. Get a healing gun.
3. Shoot everyone.
Yeah, speedrunners are geniuses
No way lol. I’m sure that gun was made specifically for this level lol. Like how you only lose 10 rings when you get hit is only in the game because of Circus Park.
Or another better recomendation:
Don't bother with the Hero mission
@@e-tean-son4146Totally viable. I think a lot of people feel compelled to do every mission possible in the game, but there’s a reason why the branching paths exist: to give you options. To tailor your experience to match you, and to only do the content you want to do. Unless you want to do the challenge mode, don’t bother with the missions you don’t like.
@@Hewasnumber1 to be fair, i only like like 9 missions out of 34, i don't hate all the missions but a lot of them are either really generic and un-evenful, poorly executed or both.
If i had to choose between wasting my time playing those missions or watching the combat animations of FE9 i will pick the FE9 animations. At least the animations are cool
Since this stage is technically a flashback, I wonder if, canonically, Shadow did try to rescue the researchers with Maria, and it took long enough (plus enough soldiers spotted them running around) that it’s why the two ended up cornered in the capsule room where Maria got shot.
I swore, I had a dream about a stage in this game that had Sonic as the Evil Mission.
It was one similar to the two Maria Levels, where Maria wanted you to stop the Arificial Chaos, just like Lost Impact. Except when you opened the menu, Somic was there standing in the Evil Side.
This theme is perfect for mentally exploring your truamatic past!
This slaps while playing chaos island in shadow gens
Or at Kingdom Valley and the Space Colony Ark because of their mysterious breathtaking atmospheres
When you think about it, they sound very similar!!!!
My take: It's called The Doom because its the only level in the game where your choices are truly meaningless, they are different paths that lead to the same outcome: The Doom of Shadow's world and everyone he ever cared about.
Shadow The Hedgehog in my opinions had a really deep story, and that's why i like the game
It did, English dubbing tarnished it's reputation unfortunately amongst the west, if you want a good story I recommend you watch the Japanese cutscenes
@@aarondoesyt3194 I don't see how localisation could've possibly ruined it. The story's biggest problem is just how incoherent and nonsensical it is. Changes in dialogue and interactions don't suddenly fix something like that.
@@definitelynotapervert5602 Well, A) the dub butchered many sincere lines and important plot elements with tryhard attempts at being edgy, so the game is now forever remembered by such gems as "Where's that ĐÆMÑ 4th Chaos Emerald", pretty much destroying any chance of it ever being taken seriously, and B) The storyline is incoherent because it's not a single continuous plot. It's different possibilites of Shadow's future playing out. None of the (subbed) endings are particularly egregious or out of character for Shadow, and all carry themes from SA2
Not that I think any of this will convince you of anything. This game has already cemented itself as a laughingstock of video game culture. No amount of reasoning could ever convince someone that Shadow the Hedgehog holding a gun isn't stupid. And despite SA2 proving Shadow had the capacity to be a remorseless killer under altered memories, no amount of convincing would ever deter a Sonic fan from thinking this game assassinated Shadow's character and made him a joke. It's just a law of nature now. The sky is blue, the earth is round, and Shadow the Hedgehog is a dumb video game.
@@aarondoesyt3194 Jason Griffith did amazing voicing Shadow so i disagree
I don't personally share that opinion but i respect it
I'm getting an MGS2 vibe from this.
ME TOO! LMAO coincidence!
Castlevania Chronicles vibe is here too) Thrashard In The Cave (Arrange ver.) - check it!
It's because of the genre, Drum and Bass.
I can hear that. Sounds a little like twilight sniping
@@rokosro2076 One of my favorite tracks from that game!
Tbh this is such an amazing piece, truly odd that it’s not on the Spotify ost for this game tho
Also I’ve been using this song so much in SXS Gens lmao
Yeah, I came back here because of Sonic Central.
SAME
Third!
same
I love how every game from 2005 (even licensed kid games) just happen to have the most insanely 2000's soundtracks and all of them rock
I still got lost in this level just as much as I did in Lost Impact
The bit where Shadow remembers Maria's death and then Maria is suddenly replaced with Black Doom is so eerie...
AstroTom
I bet Black Doom pretended to be Maria or have her fade to mess with Shadow's head.
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 agreed
@@AstroTom
Yeah very eerie and I imagine a Shadow the Hedgehog 2 sequel game where Shadow's death scene animations are more brutal sad and dark but not bloody although it can have a bloody squish sound that happens when he's hit.
@@AstroTom
Yeah and we could use more flashback locations in videogames and in The Sonic Series for Shadow.
Fun Fact: You can control Maria if you put a 2nd controller in
Soundtrack 10/10.
Agreed
"Determine your route in advance with the map"
Y'know, for how bad Black Doom is as a character, I gotta admit he makes a fantastic guide. In fact, his advice has been the most useful for me throughout the whole game.
@@KingKayro87"Go down."
"Go up."
"Shadow, use that."
"Shadow, where are you going?"
He's more direct than everyone else, too. Very stern and demanding, but helpful
"Welcome to your doom!"
*Altered Beast flashbacks
That overdriven electric piano 👌
its 2022 and its still a bop!!!
2023 still a bop
Timeless song
i loved the sound and the flow of this soundtrack on this game when i used to play it, back in the day.
Best Soundtrack Video Ever!
The one hero mission where you have to find the artificial chaos to me half an hour cos of this last one.
Turns out it was hidden away on that track right after Maria said to keep an eye out...
There’s something unsettling about this level that creeps me out. It’s not the music but the music adds onto it. It’s what doom eye says through out the level.
This song reminds me of being an astronaut exploring the galaxy and solar system and stars and moon!!!!
My favorite of the whole OST
This song oddly reminds me of some of the tunes from Sonic Shuffle
same
This would be a nice track for a training mode in a fighting game... kinda reminds me of the song that plays in the Skullgirls training room.
This is what _always_ pops into my brain when I think of the word “Doom”.
What about the game series 'Doom' 😂
Hold on to your hatred
For whatever reason it sounds like a much more chill "Yell Dead Cell"
This is my favourite stage just because of the music
This has no business slapping this hard.
"Hold on to your hatred."
This is so addictive
"shadow is an edgelord game" then when you hear the ost, most of it doesn't even have a guitar in it. i dont care, this game has a special place in my heart. it was like sonic heroes, but with all the bugs fixed.....well most of the bugs fixed
Even when the guitar is used in tracks, it really helps set the tone. My favorite example is GUN Fortress, where the song instead of being fast and chaotic it's a medium paced depressing song. It REALLY helps set the vibe for "last level of the bad ending"
@@joobtheboob
I like Shadow the Hedgehog too we need a Shadow the Hedgehog 2 sequel game.
This is the best stage musically
Sonic Central anyone?
What he says at the end of the dark mission perfectly describes my first time trying to beat this level😂
I remember wasting time looking for all of the scientists in expert mode only to realize they were all in the same room at the end
I have this as my menu theme in L4D2. Now whenever I hear this, I think of that game
This and Lost Impact are the only stages I truly couldn’t stand. At least the music didn’t annoy me.
I actually quite liked Lost Impact. I felt it was pretty chill and cool. And since I could just look on the walls to see the map and determine where I have to go before I continue, it was pretty easy to find all the Artificial Chaos.
The Doom can kiss my ass and suck my left nut, though. The entire place is a maze, trying to find all of the injured scientists is a goddamn chore, getting out of the place is a hassle, the bossfight afterwards sucks ass, and the Dark Mission is genuinely broken. Like seriously, sometimes the GUN soldiers won't even spawn and I have to go back and forth between checkpoints to get a chance at killing them.
Some of the tracks in this game with less guitar actually remind me a lot of the Sonic OVA ost!
I have finally found it... about time MR. SEA1997 not telling me
i did too lol
Context?
lol i beat the game ages ago but got it when it first came out.. was stuck on this level for like 5 years not kidding XD
Same. I just did the straightforward mission.
Metal Gear Solid 2 vibes🔥
I forgot you can explore outside of the ark if you have 5 secret keys and a switch
honestly I never really expected a game like this to tackle liquid drum n bass and do it well but here we are
Can't wait to play the Shadow generation remaster version
Just like naming a dog Terminator. this song is very chill and calm
SPACE COLONY ARK /// FOURTH
THE DOOM
I finally found this
Gives me a Toonami vibe
Everyone hates those artificial chaos enemys
Liquid DnB in a game about midlife crisis hedgehogs wielding firearms
I watched maria glitch onto the bodies and walk sideways
Unpopular Opinion: I like the stages with Maria.
Me too especially Lost Impact
this song reminds me of shadow the hedgehog
OMG same
I wish they make more games like this
Is it true that you can hear Biolizard in the background of this level? If so, which spot (if in a specific spot)?
Marquis Banks idk sorry!!
But if I find something about it I will tell you!!
That would have been awesome to see gun trying to retain the biolizard while you ran throught the leval
I don’t even remember where I heard that from tbh 😅
That would be such a cool easter egg
Why is this not on Spotify 😐
This sounds like a song from an Adult Swim bumper.
Ha, I said Toonami!
jesus, since when did flying lotus do the ost
Lmao nah fr
Sonic Heroes 2 Dialogue:
Knuckles: What the heck is going on?
Tails: It appears we're at the Space Colony Ark, But only 50 years ago.
Sonic: So this is where Shadow... Uh oh we gotta keep moving.
Marine: Wow look at all this high tech stuff! Do you guys think this can fetch a pretty penny on the high seas?
Blaze: This area appears to be the Ark, the place Shadow told us about earlier. But he said the place was destroyed a while ago.
Silver: Then this must be the Ark at least 50 years in the past! This isn't right! We gotta find some way to go back to Sonic's current time!
Shadow: ...
Rouge: Shadow, is this..?
Omega: This is a 50 years ago when the ARK was still functional, but only a memory not real.
Shadow: let's go already
I’m telling Ye & Ty to sample this.
Here after the new Sonic x Shadow Generations trailer. If a remix of this makes it in somehow... I'll shit bricks.
Edit: It's not in is it? Looked it up and... that's like the only thing that appears. Man, that's sad. I would've loved a remix...
Considering this is the only playable instance of Shadow's tragedy, it had better. It's very important
@@FlipSide-kw6ij True that!
@@Adeyum64 I mean it played several times in the Sonic Central today, so that's good enough for me
This track played on bully when you played one of the arcade games
GTA Bully?
@@shadowclonemaster Yeah
Woah what, I used to dislike this track and haven't heard it since like 2009 but I immediately started bobbing my head to it hearing it now :Y
Cause it's from an Ark level
That motherfucking level... I hate this level! I lost so many lives in this level!
Lives my ass, more like time!!!
Time, and lives. I lost myself during what seemed to be hours... AND... I died too many times.
***** This is also true..
***** Right...
cooperclan13 a
The intro reminds me alot of Cashmere cannonball from no more heroes
Ever heard of it?
I thought I was the only one who thought that, I fucking love that track
I can definitely see Hotsuma slashing the undead Oboro clan to this with the Akujiki...
This would be perfect monkey ball level music
Funny enough, when playing "the doom" on Sonic Speed Sim, I expected this to play and not the black doom theme
this is some photek type shit… i love it.
Aah, yes, the level I still have yet to complete.
Damn the memories
Please be in SxS Generations
I LITERALLY found out about this song BECAUSE of sonic x shadow generations lol
You got your wish its in the game
lol this track got me into Jungle music
Bomberman music
Sounds like something made for a Toonami bump