at 5:30, you said "even with this reduce, I am not comfortable with, because it's new". I laugh so much. It speaks my heart. Awesome, it make the show entertaining!
FunFunFunction motivates me to write unit testing in everyday development with prior test target setup with triangulation. Unit tests provide results, which provide immediate feedback to develop codes in flow(zen) modes. More than great lectures, FunFunFunction stimulates me to love coding passionately. Awesome work. Thanks.
The part on how you should think about when deciding if you should break a function in smaller ones is absolutely amazing (and it's no even the main topic!)
Thanks! In a way it’s a sub topic, but in away it’s the main one for me. It’s very easy to fool yourself into thinking that you’ve modularized something if you don’t actually test it as a module
@@funfunfunctionIt really was an amazing explanation! I've always wondered how small you can/should go with modularization, gone a bit crazy over modularization in general and the details that are more intuitive and seem obvious to some programmers but that they never truly explain to others learning (how they know to do something, when they know do it, and when to stop - when enough is enough), and this answered part it for me. This makes it very practical.
Loved this one. I liked the emphasis on feelings and the argument about the way of thinking "a rockstar programmer could keep this function on their brain" not being scalable is so true and I never thought about it. Super helpful and epiphany inducing video. Big theater kid vibes haha ❤
Clever use of the pause button. So relatable. Coding drives you crazy and you've fully embraced the feeling. Maybe those voices in your head are worth reducing to a total of one in the interest of sanity. You're a one man party . . . keep up the good work.
Man that "doesn't that mean that I'm dumb" bit. This is so me. Really uplifting to hear you say that man! .. and yeah a great start to understanding unit testing :)
This episode aims at fans who didn’t see all previous episodes. Diehard followers like myself learned nothing new, although I leave a like because I’m excited for part 2 and also because I missed you mpj! Have a great week!
I’m half way through the video and I am crying laughing - and learning . This is what made me so hooked on this Ch. I often wonder why you have not exploded - the quality of your content is amazing. Truly a show and not a tutorial.
you're way funnier in your natural habitat, I came from DevTips and I don't intend to go anywhere until I finish watching every single video you make xD
Man! I wish I didnt have to wait for the next video. Thank you so much for breaking this down like this and starting with the Why first, you've really helped me to wrap my head around it. I have so many questions after watching this video and thats a good thing!
Watched a video first time on this channel and just love the presentation which made the concepts stick into the head with the help of creative visuals.
I need Part 2! I hope this is a long/in depth series because even though I know the WHY of unit testing, I've never been able to get the 'how' with javascript. I really want to get my head around TDD + javascript.
Hey MPJ! I love the characters. It helps me better understand conflicting views, and how/why some decisions come about. It’s like Plato’s style for the Allegory of the Cave, applied to coding, and I love it. Thanks again for all you do.
MPJ, you outdone yourself :) Congratulations. Good stuff. I would like to add that sometimes when project is manageable size, with limited expectation of project growth and you are almost positive that you are going to develop that project only by yourself. Then unit testing makes more sense for really hard to test parts of project only. Overtesting in that particular situation is possible waste of time. Exception to that is requirement that project must work 100% of the time.
Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you 100%. I actually had a segment about that, but ended up deleting it as it diluted the narrative, and I ended up focusing on the reason that applies to all devs, not just teams.
I was searching for "testing' in your channel and saw this video, started to search for part 2 until realized this video has just published a few hours before that.
Loved the idea with the different personas. Hope to see more of this format but, just an advice, it can become stressful for you. So use it with measure :)
Wallaby is telling me you have already wrote your tests and they are pretty good ;-) Anyway awesome videos and refreshing to see a developer having fun with it!
Great video. Enjoy how you explain the "why" of unit testing. Can't wait for then next video. I don't do ANY unit testing, mostly because I don't work in a team environment. I can see how unit testing would be useful, but I haven't been able to justify the extra time it takes when I am working against deadlines on my own. I realize it should be done, however, I've been getting away without doing it....so far...
Your videos are very cool and useful. You cover different points of view and that's how it happens in real life. I wish you keep going with your 'Fun Fun Function':-)
SUMMARY: 1. Unit testing is a software development technique where you divide software up into smaller isolated parts and write tests for each of those isolated parts to verify that they work as expected 2. In order to break larger function into smaller isolated functions, you have to be able to break that function conceptually as well otherwise you are just spreading the problem into different places which increases complexity instead reducing ADDITIONAL INFO: In TDD, we write automated tests for the code before that code is written. In Unit testing, we write tests before or while writing ode, or after writing code
This episode felt like it was completely talking to me! This is exactly what happens... This is too simple to unit test, ain't nobody got time for that.... Then over time the code becomes super complex and then it's too hard or too much time to go back and write unit tests... Or maybe I'm looking at it wrong? Would love for you to address this in the next episode.... What if you are in deep, how do you crawl yourself back out with unit tests?
I have been coding in hs for about a month, i come from a c++ background, i use map, filter and forEach pretty commonly reduce is not one i use much. I hope i fix that great channel bud keep it up!
I like the format of the video and the fun moments. I have some problems with the content though: - Could you explain the "Why of Javascript Unit Testing" without an example? - i would not calculate something like "orderTotal" in the client. That's a server responsibility for me. - You write production code and later you think about how to test it - The special cases in minute 7:30 should be driven by tests - Minute 10 -> "I executed this in my head" --> This is why we do Test First ;) - Is there only 1 answer to the "why"?
A prime example of why the two dudes talking is a common format. Using two dudes requires less hats. On the other hand, it was neat once accepted that you were sharing your inner monolog.
Hah, I love the personas, I paused right before they came up like "what is this reduce thing... ah well, maybe he'll clarify but this is new..." and then Feelings said what I felt. To the functional programming videos I go!
Amazing, amazing videos! So glad you address these topics. I just watched the second video, and I'm curious: Is writing in a TDD behavior ultimately mainly for writing API, or is it also just general good habit for everyday coding?
"it's completely normal to be afraid of the new things but remember that new things become less scary the more you use them" ❤
3:57
Love this format !
It looks way more like a show, the new personas are a really nice asset.
Keep on rockin'
glad you like them!
The inner dialog between feelings, benefits, and the guy in the sunglasses in this episode is hilarious and insightful. This show rocks!
I've been wanting this series since I started watching! The multiple personalities is a nice touch. Thanks for all your hard work, mpj!
MPJ, you are the best author of video lessons I ever see.
Fun, short, motivated and very energetic videos.
You are AWESOME!
at 5:30, you said "even with this reduce, I am not comfortable with, because it's new". I laugh so much. It speaks my heart. Awesome, it make the show entertaining!
Fantastic episode. Loved the different characters arguing out their respective positions. Great work MPJ
I love the characters thrown in about reduce, super fun! :)
+iam13islucky glad you liked them!
FunFunFunction motivates me to write unit testing in everyday development with prior test target setup with triangulation. Unit tests provide results, which provide immediate feedback to develop codes in flow(zen) modes. More than great lectures, FunFunFunction stimulates me to love coding passionately. Awesome work. Thanks.
The staging of the inner conversations in a developer is just brilliant. Helps validate the chaos often experienced. Tack! 😀
The part on how you should think about when deciding if you should break a function in smaller ones is absolutely amazing (and it's no even the main topic!)
Thanks! In a way it’s a sub topic, but in away it’s the main one for me. It’s very easy to fool yourself into thinking that you’ve modularized something if you don’t actually test it as a module
@@funfunfunctionIt really was an amazing explanation! I've always wondered how small you can/should go with modularization, gone a bit crazy over modularization in general and the details that are more intuitive and seem obvious to some programmers but that they never truly explain to others learning (how they know to do something, when they know do it, and when to stop - when enough is enough), and this answered part it for me. This makes it very practical.
Loved this one. I liked the emphasis on feelings and the argument about the way of thinking "a rockstar programmer could keep this function on their brain" not being scalable is so true and I never thought about it. Super helpful and epiphany inducing video. Big theater kid vibes haha ❤
Clever use of the pause button. So relatable. Coding drives you crazy and you've fully embraced the feeling. Maybe those voices in your head are worth reducing to a total of one in the interest of sanity. You're a one man party . . . keep up the good work.
This felt less like learning and more like a fun journey...
A fun fun journeeeey
Man that "doesn't that mean that I'm dumb" bit. This is so me. Really uplifting to hear you say that man! .. and yeah a great start to understanding unit testing :)
You put the fun in function 😁 Great content - informative and entertaining. Love the delivery and energy!
Seriously you nailed it the battle on the code reviewers. The different personalities you played.
I would like to find what is the best word to describe how excellent this video is but I think it doesn't exist. Thanks a lot, mpj!
This episode aims at fans who didn’t see all previous episodes. Diehard followers like myself learned nothing new, although I leave a like because I’m excited for part 2 and also because I missed you mpj! Have a great week!
And the multi-mpj thingy kept it fresh (? hahaha
I learned about MPJ's schizophrenia
no one asked
I’m half way through the video and I am crying laughing - and learning . This is what made me so hooked on this Ch. I often wonder why you have not exploded - the quality of your content is amazing. Truly a show and not a tutorial.
"Doesn't this mean that I'm dumb?" Never a more relatable sentiment in this whole career change journey... Thank you for this!
You're one of the best teachers i've ever encountered in my life
you're way funnier in your natural habitat, I came from DevTips and I don't intend to go anywhere until I finish watching every single video you make xD
Man! I wish I didnt have to wait for the next video. Thank you so much for breaking this down like this and starting with the Why first, you've really helped me to wrap my head around it. I have so many questions after watching this video and thats a good thing!
Probably one of your best episodes, love the personas - you need to bring them more into your series!
Really enjoyed the dialog between all the abstracted selves. Keep that up!
will do!!
Watched a video first time on this channel and just love the presentation which made the concepts stick into the head with the help of creative visuals.
I'm so excited for this episode and hopefully the series this kicks off!!!
Love all your videos, but the multiple view points expressed through the wacky characters really made this video amazing!
this is so fun to watch! i dont get sleepy learning new stuff, thank you for this awesome content
Dear sir this discussion with yourself was one of the most interesting conversation i have ever heard about complexity
years later to the party, but the video was genius, the discussion follows exactly the thought process we face when working on these cases
”even with reduce, that I’m uncomfortable with - because it’s new” 🙄😂🤣
(Unfortunately a very realistic statement 😥)
I saw .reduce, paused, googled it, came back, was still feeling that feel a bit. "AH NEW THINGS"
Example with joggling is just great! MPJ you are becoming better and better performancer, really nice actor skills :)
I need Part 2! I hope this is a long/in depth series because even though I know the WHY of unit testing, I've never been able to get the 'how' with javascript. I really want to get my head around TDD + javascript.
Hey MPJ! I love the characters. It helps me better understand conflicting views, and how/why some decisions come about. It’s like Plato’s style for the Allegory of the Cave, applied to coding, and I love it. Thanks again for all you do.
ooh did not think of that!
Dat cliffhanger 🤘
This was done really well!
Looking forward to next week 👋☺️
LOOOOOOVE this new intro!!! awesome work, @mpjmwe! :D
Love this episode! It was informative, addresses software by design, was very entertaining and eccentric in the best possible way. Thanks MPJ.
I’ve been waiting for some good videos from you about Unit Testing! Finally :)
MPJ, you outdone yourself :) Congratulations. Good stuff.
I would like to add that sometimes when project is manageable size, with limited expectation of project growth and you are almost positive that you are going to develop that project only by yourself. Then unit testing makes more sense for really hard to test parts of project only. Overtesting in that particular situation is possible waste of time. Exception to that is requirement that project must work 100% of the time.
Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you 100%. I actually had a segment about that, but ended up deleting it as it diluted the narrative, and I ended up focusing on the reason that applies to all devs, not just teams.
I really appreciate these mini episodes, thanks for inspiring me :D
I loved how the MPJMEs changed wardrobe mid show, got all confused on who was the one wearing sunglasses, funny as hell, give this guy an Emmy
I was searching for "testing' in your channel and saw this video, started to search for part 2 until realized this video has just published a few hours before that.
You are my favourite after devtips. Very entertaining and informative
Fantastic video! Loved the characters and thinking processes going on.
Thanks for approaching stuff with a easily digestible format for us scrubs :)
This was the most enjoyable technical discussion :)
Bravo man !
Definitely you rock on teaching man! Many thanks and keep this awesome work! Peace from Brazil!
The skits are hillarious, especially if you're swedish! Keep up the good work!
Awsome hello from 2020! Searching for a great tutorial for juniors and found this! You are brilliant))
Loved the idea with the different personas. Hope to see more of this format but, just an advice, it can become stressful for you. So use it with measure :)
Wallaby is telling me you have already wrote your tests and they are pretty good ;-) Anyway awesome videos and refreshing to see a developer having fun with it!
First time watcher, subscribed. Lets do this!
love the new intro, and the hair ofc :D, i also really like the background music used.
keep it up!!
Anyone from The Odin Project?
yes
Yes 🥰
I love your show! The juggling analogy was really clear and useful for understanding the problem at hand ;p
Great video. Enjoy how you explain the "why" of unit testing. Can't wait for then next video. I don't do ANY unit testing, mostly because I don't work in a team environment. I can see how unit testing would be useful, but I haven't been able to justify the extra time it takes when I am working against deadlines on my own. I realize it should be done, however, I've been getting away without doing it....so far...
OMG I'm only 1:14 in and I'm addicted. KEEP IT UP!! 🙌 🤹♂️
The Beakman's World of programing. Great stuff!
Your videos are very cool and useful. You cover different points of view and that's how it happens in real life. I wish you keep going with your 'Fun Fun Function':-)
SUMMARY:
1. Unit testing is a software development technique where you divide software up into smaller isolated parts and write tests for each of those isolated parts to verify that they work as expected
2. In order to break larger function into smaller isolated functions, you have to be able to break that function conceptually as well otherwise you are just spreading the problem into different places which increases complexity instead reducing
ADDITIONAL INFO:
In TDD, we write automated tests for the code before that code is written.
In Unit testing, we write tests before or while writing ode, or after writing code
when & where we use TDD?
This was fantastic!
I love the quirkiness you sir earned my subscription! Keep up the good work :)
Thanks for going full time! Love this stuff
This episode felt like it was completely talking to me! This is exactly what happens... This is too simple to unit test, ain't nobody got time for that.... Then over time the code becomes super complex and then it's too hard or too much time to go back and write unit tests... Or maybe I'm looking at it wrong? Would love for you to address this in the next episode.... What if you are in deep, how do you crawl yourself back out with unit tests?
Such a good episode. Deserves more views.
This is the best thing I've ever seen!
Great video and love the intro lol kaffe drop was hilarious !
This channel will have 1M subscribers soon, guaranteed.
One of the best channels in TH-cam
Good episode. Loved the new format.
The only problem is that the music was way too loud.
Year: 2022. Still valid, still funny, still valuable. Thank You for lesson.
I have been coding in hs for about a month, i come from a c++ background, i use map, filter and forEach pretty commonly reduce is not one i use much. I hope i fix that great channel bud keep it up!
Loving it - bring on the unit testing!
This gave me a serious case of deja vu. Good stuff.
This guy has value. How am I so late to the show?
I absolutely love this show! It's entertaining and informative.
I like the format of the video and the fun moments.
I have some problems with the content though:
- Could you explain the "Why of Javascript Unit Testing" without an example?
- i would not calculate something like "orderTotal" in the client. That's a server responsibility for me.
- You write production code and later you think about how to test it
- The special cases in minute 7:30 should be driven by tests
- Minute 10 -> "I executed this in my head" --> This is why we do Test First ;)
- Is there only 1 answer to the "why"?
Wow great video. I miss these types of videos
Great work. This format is awesome
Very insightful! Thanx so much MJ
Well done! I like your different characters!
You hit every thought I have when coding!
I freaking love this episode.
Hilarious! 😀
A prime example of why the two dudes talking is a common format. Using two dudes requires less hats. On the other hand, it was neat once accepted that you were sharing your inner monolog.
You support putting dragon's in cages ! You monster !
Fantastic episode BTW !
excellent thoughts on how you would break up a function; you would need to be able to break it up conceptually
Great introduction into unit testing
Wow MPJ!!! Best one yet!
Ouch Man !! you are a legend (y) you deserve a 100m subscribers !!
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You are a fantastic teacher. Thank you.
Excellent video man! Thanks
Hah, I love the personas, I paused right before they came up like "what is this reduce thing... ah well, maybe he'll clarify but this is new..." and then Feelings said what I felt. To the functional programming videos I go!
woah you make testing fun. subscribing.
OMG you are so fucking hilarious and educational to watch. I clicked that subscribe button mid way through the video.
Amazing, amazing videos! So glad you address these topics.
I just watched the second video, and I'm curious: Is writing in a TDD behavior ultimately mainly for writing API, or is it also just general good habit for everyday coding?
Can't wait for the next Monday. ^^
Yeah. incredibly useful as always.
When you wore the sunglasses you looked like Robert Downey Jr. for a moment :D
I thought he looked like Tony Start within the first few seconds of watching the video...