The Colt will be worth far more than the Wilson's, et al, in the future. And a super-tight slide isn't necessary, as you point out. In fact, if the slide is too tight, reliability goes down hill fast. Great job! :)
Thank you for another informative video… as an owner of a Series 80 I purchased in 1993 I am working towards finishing my work space which will have my reloading bench setup. These are great information for my future reloading. 👍🏼
I have a National Match (not Gold Cup) that was made in 1963. It has a lighter frame or slide. It came with a recoil buffer. I looked at a newer Gold Cup and it didn't have the buffer. I'm glad for the info regarding the various versions.
I have the same pistol, love it, put a set of fossilized walrus tooth grips on it. It is beautiful. Super accurate too.Colt used a photo of one of my groups in one of their advertisements.
I have a 1936 Colt and it shoots just a little to the left. About 1 inch at 50 yards but has never failed in all the years I have had it. I have never checked the trigger pull. I carry a Kimber Custom ll 1911 since 1995. It has a 2.6 lb. trigger form the factory. I know I see comments about the Kimber not being a reliable firearm but I have had no issues with it. It came with 2 of the 8 round magazines and a box ammunition for $786 taxes included. I use the 185 gr. Gold Dot bullet loaded to 1,100 fpc. It's a thumper loaded like that but I love the 230 fmj at 850 to 900 and at 100 yards I hit consistently a empty propane tank like for a gas grill. I love the trigger on them. I so much enjoy watching your shows.
Had an uncle that was an armorer and FFL. We would go to their house on Thanksgiving for dinner then out to his range. One year I said something about how I didn't like 1911s that much. He had a Gold Cup on his hip, he said, here try this one. After a few rounds I too had big smile on my face. I gained a whole new respect for 1911s that day.
Hi Gunblue, how would you compare you new Colt to your Ruger SR1911? Is it noticeably better? Thanks for another great video. Happy fall. Won’t be long and the leaves will be turning here in central NH.
They are each wonderful pistol designs, but very different. The Ruger is a practical combat pistol, while the GCNM is a dedicated target pistol. I'll do the same accuracy test of the SR1911 one of these days. Stay tuned!
This is my very first comment ever on TH-cam, or any other internet site/forum for that matter, as you, sir, are/ have the only channel that I consider being worthy of my time to subscribe to. I formatted my apple account just to subscribe to your channel and comment. I truly enjoy and appreciate your no-nonsense approach to firearm ownership, use, and care. If we had many more people like you in the world, the world would be an even more wonderful place. I look forward to each and every new video that you produce. I particularly enjoy your videos on handguns and reloading, however, I catch myself watching your various videos on cooking, woodworking, and rifles, just to make sure I don’t miss-out on a thought or an opinion which you may have which may carry-over to handguns or pistol shooting. I’m honored just thinking that you may read my post. My question to you is…Do you have any insight into the Colt Gold Cup “National Match” vs. The Colt Gold Cup “Trophy”? There are obvious differences in the material, features, price, etc. However, I have heard you discuss in one of your ( I think first) Gold Cup videos that Colt “offers several Iterations of the Gold Cup”, and do you think that the “ trophy’s” intended purpose is very different from the “ national match” guns when on Colts assembly line? In other words, do you think Colt builds the “national match” guns to tighter barrel lock-up/tighter tolerances under the assumption that its primary intended purpose may be for “ Bullseye shooting”, where as the trophy may be more geared toward “action shooting”? I suspect that with the “Trophy’s” features like a magazine well and front strap checkering, emphasis may be on speed, yet the “trophy” and the “ National Match” both share the same adjustable rear target sight and the wide trigger shoe which seem intended for precision or bullseye shooting. I’m more interested in the precision aspect of shooting. While I’m not a good enough shot to tell the difference YET, would you suspect the National Match a better choice as I embark on my journey toward all “X Rings”(😀), or would you think I have the same chances with my Trophy if/when I begin to load my own, taylored ammo. Somehow, for no particular reason, my 1911s have been mostly Stainless Steel. Do you think a better gun for bullseye shooting should be made of carbon steel? Lastly, do you think that when Colt or any other production 1911 manufacturer ( Springfield Armory, Kimber, Sig, etc.) builds a batch of “target 1911s” vs. producing a batch of garden variety, home defense, tactical, whatever 1911s, do you think any particular effort is made to produce specific results when barrel fitting, etc., or do you think that they simply rely on todays modern machining practices and equipment to produce consistent high quality 1911s ( as in, do you suspect that the next Colt Gold Cup National Match to come off the assembly line after your particular firearm was produced, to have the same or extremely similar accuracy as yours does if you were to feed it some of the exact same ammo from the same batch that you produced and shot in your pistol? Or, is it more of a “luck of the draw” thing? I wish you could share your comments and opinions in a video! Thank you for sharing your vast wealth of knowledge! God Bless!
A sub member for almost a year now. Thank You for your knowledge sharing. That has been truly invaluable. I am a new target paper puncher , been a free hand range shooter for years. Can you do a video on the merits and advantages of different types of pistol Bench rests? I am looking to purchase one soon and would love to hear your input. I shoot 45ACP,38/357mag and 9mm primarily.
I personally prefer a simple Hoppe's rest, and cover it with a heavy soft cloth to protect the gun. A small head pillow under the forearms is very helpful.
A handgun is a little different than a rifle. Use the rest to support your wrists. Don't place the gun directly on the rest. This allows the gun to recoil consistently for each shot.
I see you have my favorite drink on the bench. I have a 1911 manufactured by Springfield which at the time I bought it I couldn't afford a Colt on Military wages. Not a Colt but still love it.
Patridge sights are traditionally used for bullseye targets with a 6:00 O'clock hold. I refer you to my precision pistol shooting series for a complete explanation. One does not "see" a bullseye target, only an obscure, fuzzy, black dot is visible, tangent to the sharp sights. One cannot hold to the center of a fuzzy black dot, but one can hold sharply defined sights beneath it.
I just fired 4 shots without a machine rest, with only my 73 year old eyes and aging muscles, with a legal NM 4.5 pound crisp trigger with a.690" center to center group. I fail to see why I'd be more impressed by another pistol that comes from a high priced custom shop. And it's not a Colt.
A person can obsess over the price of the gun, or simply enjoy it. It is great to see that you opted for the latter. I bought mine about 45 years ago and while I seldom shoot it, it certainly has a special place in my collection.
I don’t have a Colt Gold Cup but I’m very pleased and proud for you having one and no shame necessary. Great shooting and display of accuracy from your beautiful 1911, thanks for sharing!
Fine Shootin Young Man! And a Sweet 1911. We all know who you are talking about and their $3000-5000 dollar 1911’s, I’m sure those are fine weapons, but are not in my budget, and won’t do anything special, they send a round down range. I just gave my Colt Stainless Trophy Gold Cup to my Daughter,and it’s a beautiful gun, like yours, and we paid about the same.
Hi, @gunblue490! Could you please make a video about how to get into deer hunting? I just got my hunter's ed certification, but that only covered safety. I have no idea where to begin in terms of picking a spot in my WMA, tracking, shooting, and then dragging a deer. It would be great if I could find an experienced hunter to teach me, but I'd of course like to hear from you, first. Thank you!
That's a lot of territory to cover, but I'll ponder that one and see what I can come up with. In the meanwhile, check out my elk hunting series, which covers much of the same ground. Thanks for the suggestion!
I’ve always had great results using lighter loads in my SA 1911. First time I shot them, I was afraid it wouldn’t cycle the slide, but the pistol runs like a champ with them. Brass looks pretty rough after firing, but that’s what a tumbler is for! I’ve been on a rifle kick for several months, but this video has me itching to give my pistols a little love!
Great Series of the Colt Gold Cup Nation Match. It's one of my all-time favorites! That's one of the first guns I shot. The other was the Colt Woodsman. Colt ... Just love them...
Congratulations ! Love that expression of joy. Thank you for sharing. That powder load is perfect to keep the firearm manageable - at least for my old hands. 😊 And the Moxie hat - oh that brings back memories. How anyone could enjoy that drink . . . 😵💫
I’m enjoying your sunny day and good luck that you made it to the range. I’m never as focused as when I’m enjoying myself at the range; I like watching others having the same fun! Well, hunting season is just around the corner, good luck with your season!
I'll Bet you must have been "chomping at the Bit" to finally shoot your Baby! It is Always a priority of mine when you have a new Post to watch ASAP.I Love your content,You have done so much to reinvigorate my past-time you will Never Know! Thank You. and Yes we love the Rants!
Thanks for your vid! Bought the same pistol you have, a N.O.S., w/ the trigger-guard tag still attached. I don't think I put two boxes of factory (I don't shoot enough to reload) since I had it two years. I installed a new collet bushing, and I couldn't tell an accuracy difference after the second box. But my 70 yr. old eyes can't shoot what they used to either, so I use 'Eye-Pal' peep-hole stickers on my safety glasses, & it helps... LOVE my Mk IV, 70!
You mentioned you were in the 25th Division. My father was in the 25th Division during WWII. He grew up in the Springfield area of Massachusetts. His first experience of ships and planes was the war. It was not, as one might expect, a happy one. He wouldn't fly until 1987 when he had to go from Washington, DC (where I was born) to Chicago for my wedding. He was in no shape to drive at that point. I don't think he flew after that either.
I have always been curious about the hammer bite thing as well. I have a old ww1 colt m1911 and it’s the real deal original 1911. I never have gotten hammer bite from it. As far as trigger and sights are concerned. Those two things are a little less then desirable. But hammer bite nope I suppose a guy would have to have a really fat hand to get it.
Well we know what Constipated was doing! But yes glad to see he's out shooting, and with the lord's caliber no less. And I love his little cushion!😅 Guess I'll have to visit the Starline Brass and Sierra Bullet Factory and here in Missouri and try to post it. Even sneak in Graf's for a look around.
A good video Mr. Blue. I also believe that a gun should work right out of the box. I do not understand this idea that it ''needs' a break in that many manufactures say these days. Run 200 rounds and if it still doesn't run right then you can ask if you can send it back. EDIT I don't see responses to my posts as the toob blocks them from me. Sometimes I can find them after a few days, sometimes never. No response necessary.
Jeez, I hope I don't give out heart attacks here, but one of my favorite 1911s I own is a Chinese made NORINCO I bought BNIB in 1992. Yep, that's right... WHY? I can feed empty cases from a magazine and can not recall a failure even with light H&G 68 loads, it is plenty accurate, has a nice trigger and aside from springs and grips is made from forgings and all machined w/o MIM or stamped parts. The steel quality is superior to many (even Gov contract ones) and the dimensions are right and tight. It was one of only a few makers Wilson would build customs on if that says anything about the guns quality. NORINCO makes fine guns as you would expect an actual military maker would. Let folks hate on my 'junky' NORINCO - I consider it the best $225 I ever paid for a NIB pistol, esp for a true 1911A1 clone. Nice Colt NM pistol GB, I know I'd be happy with it and its performance.
Can i share b4 this stuff goes gone? Have gold treasure 45.TOO. So said another series 70 is a uspsa gun.getting started i had help with it.THESE ARE NOT COMMITTEA GUNS.with minimum $$ i was fractional particles behindthe leader as was everybody else. Reamed brrl & chamber out till it got less accurate 😢 ha. Reamed it little more ramped rifling. I could then beat bullseye guns. And with more room it could play same way delta elite plays for 10 mm.230ball go very hard quite safely. NOTICE TO BEARS AM NOT REALLY THAT EASY ,, MR.MRS. GRIZZLIE.🎉 35:33
Thanks for the great review of a great pistol. I agree with your comments about 1911 accuracy completely. I have a Tisas 1911 "US Army" that I paid $489 for and it can shoot 1.5" groups and sometimes better from a 25 yard rest with factory ammo it likes (especially Federal 230 grain HST). Thanks again!
I really like your appreciation for this particular pistol , I really feel the same way about mine , if you ever have the opportunity to get a hold of 185 gr. Match wadcutters and fine tune them to 760-770 fps as I had the chance fifteen years ago , and set your sights to that particular load specs the accuracy potential is surprisingly impressive, like all impacts touching each other time after time and then clean after 200 rounds and repeat .💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💥💥💥
Had a great golf cup national match back in the 90s until they banned handguns. Punched out the center of the targets on a regular basis and won several club competitions. Miss shooting, but it’s never coming back.
28:22 mark, talking about people in the comments disparaging and having a problem with inexpensive 1911’s when you showed it to everyone…I saw that video and read the comments…give me a break, not a single comment even close to what you’re claiming, nobody cared that it wasn’t a Wilson or Nighthawk or Cabot, nothing but praise for a nice 1911. There were a couple of people who mention what they do have which include those brands, but no one talking down or having a problem with less expensive 1911s
back in the 70s i went into the local sport shop and i was looking for a 45 automag so the guy said he would order it for me. well about a week later he called me and said my gun came in i was soooo exicted now i live in canada so you go through a lot of bs to get your gun any way i go down there and he pulls out this little box and my heart sank he opens it up and low and behold he shows me this CRAP colt gold cup i instantly said thats not what i ordered and he could send it back he then offered me the gun if i remember for like 400 buck i just laughed and walked out thing is they are just too over rateted i had a star 9mm that would shoot as good as your colt gold cup just saying
You proved everything you said about that pistol with the targets. I'm putting the National Match Gold Cup on my bucket list. I do reload and will definitely test those loads. Excellent accuracy! Hope to see more videos with your most accurate load.
I just bought one in 38 super. It’s a nice gun but the slide does have a little wiggle in it. How does your slide fit your frame? Is it super tight or some wiggle?
A true Classic! Both you and your fine National Match. That's where it all started for me when I was a kid. My Uncle's 1911, shooting at Colt's gun range with them. Just picked one of these fine specimens myself. Keep up the great job on your channel!
I know this is an old comment but I recently picked one of these up. And the trigger just wobbles around. Is that normal. Also the bluing behind the grip right where it sits in your right hand rubbed off within the first 500 rounds I shot through it
Seems like a wonderful piece of equipment there. Seems to go everytime you want it too. When you said "let my eyes clear up" i was like sir your glasses! 🤷🏼♂️😂
Speaking of the Series 70 GC... I bot mine so I wouldnt have to spend $$$ getting a 1911 fine tuned. Out of the box, it was looser than the one I had in the service that had been thru 3 world wars and 17 skirmishes -- AND shot about the same, too! Then the front site came off and hit me in the forehead during a match! Then the 4 fingered barrel bushing broke and Really! jammed it up! Frank K who I knew was a fine 45 smith. He did a Really fine job for me, tightening the rails and fitted a target bushing, installed Millet sights and generally fine tuned it for me. It now shoots one hole groups at 50 feet - if I do my part. Having had that 'experience', now, you couldnt Give me a Colt anything ever again!! Good Video!! Jerry
I wish all the Colt guns were as good as the one you got from then. My Colt Competition 9mm is back to the factory due to rounds ejecting erratically. I just got tired of being hit with the spent cases. Maybe I should have spent the extra $200 and got a Gold Cup but just couldn't do it. I know how different loads can effect accuracy and you've proved it to me again. Thanks for the good video. Happy shooting!
Is it a light extractor or heavy ex. that causes the cases to eject straight back? If nothing else this will give me an idea of Colt's factory warranty work.@@billj5645
You are so correct about price ! A person can over spend unnecessarily to have a well made firearm. I'm a firearm lover and have many and I enjoy each one however if you are a collector odds are we have purchased a gun or two however fabulous they seem to be , hand fit and so forth , once we get to the range and see that they are any more accurate then a average price 1911 then we can have a twist in the pride revolution and so quite true owning an collection building must be a learning experience for each of us. My sweet spot in the 1911 arena is the full size Springfield Garrison a very nice pistol for the money and in a few variants and again Colt , S&W , Ruger , Springfield can get you in a beautiful and functional 1911 at reasonable prices, Custom is nice but you can be glad you choose a good production gun especially in these modern times and a 1911 is such a joy to own and shoot.
I’m fortunate to have inherited SEVEN of my dad’s (original owner) Colt Gold Cups. I love them all but haven’t shot them in more than 20 years or so. Safe queens.
I don't have anything that fancy....but enjoy that platform a lot. I have a Kimber Classic Stainless LE and a Rock Island 10mm. I really like a grip with finger choils on the front of the grip.
I have a colt series 70 government made in 76, beautiful gun shoots great I love it. Also have a Dan Wesson 1911 made in the mid 90s paid 650 bucks for it. Wonderful gun it will out shoot my colt, but I love them both. Five grains of red dot 200 grain bullet that shoots great out to 50 yds. Hit my 12x12 inch plate at a hundred yds with the Dan Wesson when and if I do my part.
As a youth, my uncle always talked about doing a gold cup clone. I've never had one myself but have since had several 1911s. Recently I took a 10mm Springfield Ronin, replaced the mim parts with tool steel. It turned into a nice woods gun, more accurate than my other pistols.
Great shooting, I found it very relaxing. Even though $1,200 isn't inexpensive, I'm glad this outperformed 1911s twice or three times it's price. Fantastic shooting and load development. Did you have to adjust your sights between loads? I love 1911s. Thank you for all the information.
@@kyleblandon2250 Yes, he only shot the one, but throughout my life, when older people speak (usually men) and they have decades of experience and knowledge, I listen to them and believe what they're saying. It's also helpful from a financial perspective that you don't have to spend a tone of money to get the performance you want.
I love your videos and all the sound advice you dispense. I'm in southern NH, do you have a range you could recommend. Some are difficult to obtain membership.
Check out Kinnicum F&G in Candia, Pinnacle Mountain in Lyndeborough, Major Waldron in Barrington, or Sunset Mountain in Canterbury. They are excellent clubs. Usually, you simply attend a monthly meeting, garner friendship with someone, and ask them to sponsor you.
The Colt Nation Match is a very fine pistol. My Dad gave me a Combat Commander with an electro-less nickel finish almost 30 years ago. It was the first centerfire pistol I ever shot and I fell in love with it. It’s one of my most cherished pieces in my collection.
Thank you for sharing! As a kind heads up from a former electroplater, we performed electro-less nickel plating, without anodes/cathodes in a solution. Electrolysis is generally for the permanent removal of hair.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you for your reply and friendly correction. By the way, congratulations on acquiring such a fine pistol. I wish everyone could shoot a quality 1911 pistol. It’s the pinnacle of handgun design.
25 years ago I was dedicated to my 1911s. I discovered that the lighter the powder charge the tighter the groups. I can’t recall the exact charge but somewhere around 4.2-4.3gr I really enjoy your videos and admire you for sharing your knowledge. God Bless.
The Colt will be worth far more than the Wilson's, et al, in the future. And a super-tight slide isn't necessary, as you point out. In fact, if the slide is too tight, reliability goes down hill fast.
Great job! :)
Thank you for another informative video… as an owner of a Series 80 I purchased in 1993 I am working towards finishing my work space which will have my reloading bench setup. These are great information for my future reloading. 👍🏼
I have a National Match (not Gold Cup) that was made in 1963. It has a lighter frame or slide. It came with a recoil buffer. I looked at a newer Gold Cup and it didn't have the buffer. I'm glad for the info regarding the various versions.
Just bought the same 70 series gold cup at local Black Friday sale and absolutely love it! Such a smooth shooter can’t wait to get back to the range
I have the same pistol, love it, put a set of fossilized walrus tooth grips on it. It is beautiful. Super accurate too.Colt used a photo of one of my groups in one of their advertisements.
I have a 1936 Colt and it shoots just a little to the left. About 1 inch at 50 yards but has never failed in all the years I have had it. I have never checked the trigger pull.
I carry a Kimber Custom ll 1911 since 1995. It has a 2.6 lb. trigger form the factory. I know I see comments about the Kimber not being a reliable firearm but I have had no issues with it. It came with 2 of the 8 round magazines and a box ammunition for $786 taxes included.
I use the 185 gr. Gold Dot bullet loaded to 1,100 fpc. It's a thumper loaded like that but I love the 230 fmj at 850 to 900 and at 100 yards I hit consistently a empty propane tank like for a gas grill.
I love the trigger on them.
I so much enjoy watching your shows.
Had an uncle that was an armorer and FFL. We would go to their house on Thanksgiving for dinner then out to his range. One year I said something about how I didn't like 1911s that much. He had a Gold Cup on his hip, he said, here try this one. After a few rounds I too had big smile on my face. I gained a whole new respect for 1911s that day.
Hi Gunblue, how would you compare you new Colt to your Ruger SR1911? Is it noticeably better?
Thanks for another great video. Happy fall. Won’t be long and the leaves will be turning here in central NH.
They are each wonderful pistol designs, but very different. The Ruger is a practical combat pistol, while the GCNM is a dedicated target pistol. I'll do the same accuracy test of the SR1911 one of these days. Stay tuned!
GunBlue goes into a whole different expression from talking to shooting. Eye of the Tiger stuff.
This is my very first comment ever on TH-cam, or any other internet site/forum for that matter, as you, sir, are/ have the only channel that I consider being worthy of my time to subscribe to. I formatted my apple account just to subscribe to your channel and comment. I truly enjoy and appreciate your no-nonsense approach to firearm ownership, use, and care. If we had many more people like you in the world, the world would be an even more wonderful place. I look forward to each and every new video that you produce. I particularly enjoy your videos on handguns and reloading, however, I catch myself watching your various videos on cooking, woodworking, and rifles, just to make sure I don’t miss-out on a thought or an opinion which you may have which may carry-over to handguns or pistol shooting. I’m honored just thinking that you may read my post.
My question to you is…Do you have any insight into the Colt Gold Cup “National Match” vs. The Colt Gold Cup “Trophy”? There are obvious differences in the material, features, price, etc. However, I have heard you discuss in one of your ( I think first) Gold Cup videos that Colt “offers several Iterations of the Gold Cup”, and do you think that the “ trophy’s” intended purpose is very different from the “ national match” guns when on Colts assembly line? In other words, do you think Colt builds the “national match” guns to tighter barrel lock-up/tighter tolerances under the assumption that its primary intended purpose may be for “ Bullseye shooting”, where as the trophy may be more geared toward “action shooting”? I suspect that with the “Trophy’s” features like a magazine well and front strap checkering, emphasis may be on speed, yet the “trophy” and the “ National Match” both share the same adjustable rear target sight and the wide trigger shoe which seem intended for precision or bullseye shooting.
I’m more interested in the precision aspect of shooting. While I’m not a good enough shot to tell the difference YET, would you suspect the National Match a better choice as I embark on my journey toward all “X Rings”(😀), or would you think I have the same chances with my Trophy if/when I begin to load my own, taylored ammo.
Somehow, for no particular reason, my 1911s have been mostly Stainless Steel. Do you think a better gun for bullseye shooting should be made of carbon steel?
Lastly, do you think that when Colt or any other production 1911 manufacturer ( Springfield Armory, Kimber, Sig, etc.) builds a batch of “target 1911s” vs. producing a batch of garden variety, home defense, tactical, whatever 1911s, do you think any particular effort is made to produce specific results when barrel fitting, etc., or do you think that they simply rely on todays modern machining practices and equipment to produce consistent high quality 1911s ( as in, do you suspect that the next Colt Gold Cup National Match to come off the assembly line after your particular firearm was produced, to have the same or extremely similar accuracy as yours does if you were to feed it some of the exact same ammo from the same batch that you produced and shot in your pistol? Or, is it more of a “luck of the draw” thing?
I wish you could share your comments and opinions in a video!
Thank you for sharing your vast wealth of knowledge! God Bless!
Great stuff Mr Gunblue I think you proved a very valuable point well done and always well spoken Kyle in Ct..
I wonder if you could tell some ore Vietnam stories, or any stories about the 60s? Just asking. Great video as always!
I remain thankful for you and your channel. Your audience can count on you for the truth
A sub member for almost a year now. Thank You for your knowledge sharing. That has been truly invaluable. I am a new target paper puncher , been a free hand range shooter for years.
Can you do a video on the merits and advantages of different types of pistol Bench rests? I am looking to purchase one soon and would love to hear your input. I shoot 45ACP,38/357mag and 9mm primarily.
I personally prefer a simple Hoppe's rest, and cover it with a heavy soft cloth to protect the gun. A small head pillow under the forearms is very helpful.
A handgun is a little different than a rifle. Use the rest to support your wrists. Don't place the gun directly on the rest. This allows the gun to recoil consistently for each shot.
I see you have my favorite drink on the bench. I have a 1911 manufactured by Springfield which at the time I bought it I couldn't afford a Colt on Military wages. Not a Colt but still love it.
A bit off topic, but I'm just curious. Do you aim by using the center hold, or do you use the 6 o'clock hold?
Patridge sights are traditionally used for bullseye targets with a 6:00 O'clock hold. I refer you to my precision pistol shooting series for a complete explanation. One does not "see" a bullseye target, only an obscure, fuzzy, black dot is visible, tangent to the sharp sights. One cannot hold to the center of a fuzzy black dot, but one can hold sharply defined sights beneath it.
Hello Sir,
There is a hammer bite with all my 1911s without extended beaver tail. Do you get any bite with that one?
I have a real Colt Gold Cup, Series 70 National Match. it shoots so good, and anyone that shoots it, wants to buy it. Nope.
Have you shot, say. A Volkman, you would change your mind, I did.
I just fired 4 shots without a machine rest, with only my 73 year old eyes and aging muscles, with a legal NM 4.5 pound crisp trigger with a.690" center to center group. I fail to see why I'd be more impressed by another pistol that comes from a high priced custom shop. And it's not a Colt.
both are nice@@GunBlue490
You probably cannot afford one. Or, would appreciate, or understand something a whole lot better than what you will ever have, smacky!
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A person can obsess over the price of the gun, or simply enjoy it. It is great to see that you opted for the latter. I bought mine about 45 years ago and while I seldom shoot it, it certainly has a special place in my collection.
I don’t have a Colt Gold Cup but I’m very pleased and proud for you having one and no shame necessary. Great shooting and display of accuracy from your beautiful 1911, thanks for sharing!
Fine Shootin Young Man! And a Sweet 1911. We all know who you are talking about and their $3000-5000 dollar 1911’s, I’m sure those are fine weapons, but are not in my budget, and won’t do anything special, they send a round down range. I just gave my Colt Stainless Trophy Gold Cup to my Daughter,and it’s a beautiful gun, like yours, and we paid about the same.
That 45 will shoot 150 gr / 650 >> 1400 somting. Prgressive recoil springs are used. Used to have to make 180 power factor for major.
Good morning Sir. Please keep making videos I really enjoy them. 🇺🇲💪🇺🇲💪🇺🇲💪🇺🇲
Hi, @gunblue490! Could you please make a video about how to get into deer hunting? I just got my hunter's ed certification, but that only covered safety. I have no idea where to begin in terms of picking a spot in my WMA, tracking, shooting, and then dragging a deer. It would be great if I could find an experienced hunter to teach me, but I'd of course like to hear from you, first. Thank you!
That's a lot of territory to cover, but I'll ponder that one and see what I can come up with. In the meanwhile, check out my elk hunting series, which covers much of the same ground. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@GunBlue490Will do, sir! Thank you.
What a beautiful gun!
Thank you sir for sharing. The result confirmed that it lived up to the name of the weapon.
God bless!
I’ve always had great results using lighter loads in my SA 1911. First time I shot them, I was afraid it wouldn’t cycle the slide, but the pistol runs like a champ with them. Brass looks pretty rough after firing, but that’s what a tumbler is for! I’ve been on a rifle kick for several months, but this video has me itching to give my pistols a little love!
thank you i enjoyed you getting out shooting that beatiful gun looking forward to more knowlege you share with us god bless you my friend
Great Series of the Colt Gold Cup Nation Match.
It's one of my all-time favorites! That's one of the first guns I shot. The other was the Colt Woodsman. Colt ... Just love them...
Now I feel a strong desire to take out some 1911s and enjoy the last days of summer.
Congratulations ! Love that expression of joy. Thank you for sharing. That powder load is perfect to keep the firearm manageable - at least for my old hands. 😊 And the Moxie hat - oh that brings back memories. How anyone could enjoy that drink . . . 😵💫
I’m enjoying your sunny day and good luck that you made it to the range.
I’m never as focused as when I’m enjoying myself at the range; I like watching others having the same fun!
Well, hunting season is just around the corner, good luck with your season!
I'll Bet you must have been "chomping at the Bit" to finally shoot your Baby! It is Always a priority of mine when you have a new Post to watch ASAP.I Love your content,You have done so much to reinvigorate my past-time you will Never Know! Thank You. and Yes we love the Rants!
Thanks for your vid! Bought the same pistol you have, a N.O.S., w/ the trigger-guard tag still attached. I don't think I put two boxes of factory (I don't shoot enough to reload) since I had it two years. I installed a new collet bushing, and I couldn't tell an accuracy difference after the second box. But my 70 yr. old eyes can't shoot what they used to either, so I use 'Eye-Pal' peep-hole stickers on my safety glasses, & it helps... LOVE my Mk IV, 70!
You mentioned you were in the 25th Division. My father was in the 25th Division during WWII.
He grew up in the Springfield area of Massachusetts. His first experience of ships and planes was the war. It was not, as one might expect, a happy one. He wouldn't fly until 1987 when he had to go from Washington, DC (where I was born) to Chicago for my wedding. He was in no shape to drive at that point. I don't think he flew after that either.
Thanks for your service sir...
Thank you and God bless!
I one day aspire to have a 1911 and to shoot as goodbas you
I have always been curious about the hammer bite thing as well. I have a old ww1 colt m1911 and it’s the real deal original 1911. I never have gotten hammer bite from it. As far as trigger and sights are concerned. Those two things are a little less then desirable. But hammer bite nope I suppose a guy would have to have a really fat hand to get it.
Oh that's a dandy.good for you sir.
Well we know what Constipated was doing!
But yes glad to see he's out shooting, and with the lord's caliber no less.
And I love his little cushion!😅
Guess I'll have to visit the Starline Brass and Sierra Bullet Factory and here in Missouri and try to post it. Even sneak in Graf's for a look around.
👍Good stuff. I sure like that COLT 1911! 🇺🇸
A good video Mr. Blue. I also believe that a gun should work right out of the box. I do not understand this idea that it ''needs' a break in that many manufactures say these days. Run 200 rounds and if it still doesn't run right then you can ask if you can send it back.
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I don't see responses to my posts as the toob blocks them from me. Sometimes I can find them after a few days, sometimes never.
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Jeez, I hope I don't give out heart attacks here, but one of my favorite 1911s I own is a Chinese made NORINCO I bought BNIB in 1992. Yep, that's right... WHY? I can feed empty cases from a magazine and can not recall a failure even with light H&G 68 loads, it is plenty accurate, has a nice trigger and aside from springs and grips is made from forgings and all machined w/o MIM or stamped parts. The steel quality is superior to many (even Gov contract ones) and the dimensions are right and tight. It was one of only a few makers Wilson would build customs on if that says anything about the guns quality.
NORINCO makes fine guns as you would expect an actual military maker would. Let folks hate on my 'junky' NORINCO - I consider it the best $225 I ever paid for a NIB pistol, esp for a true 1911A1 clone. Nice Colt NM pistol GB, I know I'd be happy with it and its performance.
Can i share b4 this stuff goes gone? Have gold treasure 45.TOO. So said another series 70 is a uspsa gun.getting started i had help with it.THESE ARE NOT COMMITTEA GUNS.with minimum $$ i was fractional particles behindthe leader as was everybody else. Reamed brrl & chamber out till it got less accurate 😢 ha. Reamed it little more ramped rifling. I could then beat bullseye guns. And with more room it could play same way delta elite plays for 10 mm.230ball go very hard quite safely. NOTICE TO BEARS AM NOT REALLY THAT EASY ,, MR.MRS. GRIZZLIE.🎉 35:33
Thanks for the great review of a great pistol. I agree with your comments about 1911 accuracy completely. I have a Tisas 1911 "US Army" that I paid $489 for and it can shoot 1.5" groups and sometimes better from a 25 yard rest with factory ammo it likes (especially Federal 230 grain HST). Thanks again!
WOOOO! YES! Another gunblue490 video the only way to start my morning. Keep doing what you are doing!
If GunBlue490 started a Patreon account I would personally donate every month!
I really like your appreciation for this particular pistol , I really feel the same way about mine , if you ever have the opportunity to get a hold of 185 gr. Match wadcutters and fine tune them to 760-770 fps as I had the chance fifteen years ago , and set your sights to that particular load specs the accuracy potential is surprisingly impressive, like all impacts touching each other time after time and then clean after 200 rounds and repeat .💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💥💥💥
Had a great golf cup national match back in the 90s until they banned handguns. Punched out the center of the targets on a regular basis and won several club competitions. Miss shooting, but it’s never coming back.
28:22 mark, talking about people in the comments disparaging and having a problem with inexpensive 1911’s when you showed it to everyone…I saw that video and read the comments…give me a break, not a single comment even close to what you’re claiming, nobody cared that it wasn’t a Wilson or Nighthawk or Cabot, nothing but praise for a nice 1911. There were a couple of people who mention what they do have which include those brands, but no one talking down or having a problem with less expensive 1911s
back in the 70s i went into the local sport shop and i was looking for a 45 automag so the guy said he would order it for me. well about a week later he called me and said my gun came in i was soooo exicted now i live in canada so you go through a lot of bs to get your gun any way i go down there and he pulls out this little box and my heart sank he opens it up and low and behold he shows me this CRAP colt gold cup i instantly said thats not what i ordered and he could send it back he then offered me the gun if i remember for like 400 buck i just laughed and walked out thing is they are just too over rateted i had a star 9mm that would shoot as good as your colt gold cup just saying
You proved everything you said about that pistol with the targets.
I'm putting the National Match Gold Cup on my bucket list.
I do reload and will definitely test those loads. Excellent accuracy!
Hope to see more videos with your most accurate load.
I love your videos and learned so much from what you do
I just bought one in 38 super. It’s a nice gun but the slide does have a little wiggle in it. How does your slide fit your frame? Is it super tight or some wiggle?
A true Classic! Both you and your fine National Match. That's where it all started for me when I was a kid. My Uncle's 1911, shooting at Colt's gun range with them. Just picked one of these fine specimens myself. Keep up the great job on your channel!
I know this is an old comment but I recently picked one of these up. And the trigger just wobbles around. Is that normal. Also the bluing behind the grip right where it sits in your right hand rubbed off within the first 500 rounds I shot through it
Thanks for your service Sir! Tropic lightning! Huah!
Well done brother . D/F Troop 4th Cav 25th I.D,,, doc bg
Seems like a wonderful piece of equipment there. Seems to go everytime you want it too.
When you said "let my eyes clear up" i was like sir your glasses! 🤷🏼♂️😂
Exactly!
Speaking of the Series 70 GC... I bot mine so I wouldnt have to spend $$$ getting a 1911 fine tuned. Out of the box, it was looser than the one I had in the service that had been thru 3 world wars and 17 skirmishes -- AND shot about the same, too! Then the front site came off and hit me in the forehead during a match! Then the 4 fingered barrel bushing broke and Really! jammed it up! Frank K who I knew was a fine 45 smith. He did a Really fine job for me, tightening the rails and fitted a target bushing, installed Millet sights and generally fine tuned it for me. It now shoots one hole groups at 50 feet - if I do my part. Having had that 'experience', now, you couldnt Give me a Colt anything ever again!! Good Video!! Jerry
You are speaking of quite ancient history in their development. Colt GC pistols are no longer made like that.
@@GunBlue490 That's GOOD!! It was JUNK out of the box!! At least Frank did a really Good job on it. Jerry
I am slowly going through all these informative videos. would it be possible to have them all made available on DVD form?
and i have no idea what the name here has attached itself to me btw.
Like the colts but my Springfield 45 are so accurate out of the box 👍🏻
I wish all the Colt guns were as good as the one you got from then. My Colt Competition 9mm is back to the factory due to rounds ejecting erratically. I just got tired of being hit with the spent cases. Maybe I should have spent the extra $200 and got a Gold Cup but just couldn't do it. I know how different loads can effect accuracy and you've proved it to me again. Thanks for the good video. Happy shooting!
You could have tuned the extractor yourself and saved the trouble of sending it back.
Is it a light extractor or heavy ex. that causes the cases to eject straight back? If nothing else this will give me an idea of Colt's factory warranty work.@@billj5645
Excellent groups. I’ll have to remember 5gr of Bullseye with 200gr bullet, something to start with 😊
You are so correct about price ! A person can over spend unnecessarily to have a well made firearm. I'm a firearm lover and have many and I enjoy each one however if you are a collector odds are we have purchased a gun or two however fabulous they seem to be , hand fit and so forth , once we get to the range and see that they are any more accurate then a average price 1911 then we can have a twist in the pride revolution and so quite true owning an collection building must be a learning experience for each of us. My sweet spot in the 1911 arena is the full size Springfield Garrison a very nice pistol for the money and in a few variants and again Colt , S&W , Ruger , Springfield can get you in a beautiful and functional 1911 at reasonable prices, Custom is nice but you can be glad you choose a good production gun especially in these modern times and a 1911 is such a joy to own and shoot.
I’m fortunate to have inherited SEVEN of my dad’s (original owner) Colt Gold Cups. I love them all but haven’t shot them in more than 20 years or so. Safe queens.
I don't have anything that fancy....but enjoy that platform a lot.
I have a Kimber Classic Stainless LE and a Rock Island 10mm.
I really like a grip with finger choils on the front of the grip.
Those are pretty good groups from a factory gun that isn't specifically accurized.
I have a colt series 70 government made in 76, beautiful gun shoots great I love it. Also have a Dan Wesson 1911 made in the mid 90s paid 650 bucks for it. Wonderful gun it will out shoot my colt, but I love them both. Five grains of red dot 200 grain bullet that shoots great out to 50 yds. Hit my 12x12 inch plate at a hundred yds with the Dan Wesson when and if I do my part.
Wow, look at target #1. You can't do much better than that. It shows you that adjusting powder weight can make a difference.
As a youth, my uncle always talked about doing a gold cup clone. I've never had one myself but have since had several 1911s. Recently I took a 10mm Springfield Ronin, replaced the mim parts with tool steel. It turned into a nice woods gun, more accurate than my other pistols.
Many years ago we had Inglis HP found with silver solder on the rails to snug up the sides for accuracy.
How was your cataract surgery? I will be requiring this in the near future
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Love my ‘70 bought in the late ‘70’s new
I love my Colt.
Great shooting, I found it very relaxing. Even though $1,200 isn't inexpensive, I'm glad this outperformed 1911s twice or three times it's price.
Fantastic shooting and load development. Did you have to adjust your sights between loads?
I love 1911s. Thank you for all the information.
Thanks. No, the same sight adjustment.
@@GunBlue490 That's good to hear, I'm glad you're not getting slide or hammer bite.
Did it outperform the other 1911s? I only saw him shoot one gun….
@@kyleblandon2250 Yes, he only shot the one, but throughout my life, when older people speak (usually men) and they have decades of experience and knowledge, I listen to them and believe what they're saying.
It's also helpful from a financial perspective that you don't have to spend a tone of money to get the performance you want.
@@bobhill3941 sounds good buckaroo 👌
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During ejection I keep getting a flat sided case which are a pain to reload. Why does this happen?
It may be excessive ejection force due to a light recoil spring for your ammo. Try an 18.5# spring.
I love your videos and all the sound advice you dispense. I'm in southern NH, do you have a range you could recommend. Some are difficult to obtain membership.
Check out Kinnicum F&G in Candia, Pinnacle Mountain in Lyndeborough, Major Waldron in Barrington, or Sunset Mountain in Canterbury. They are excellent clubs. Usually, you simply attend a monthly meeting, garner friendship with someone, and ask them to sponsor you.
Mr Gunblue Does Your National Match Gold Cup Have The Fingered Collet Bushing or Did They Go With a Standard Bushing 😀
Fingered collet bushings were very effective in the days before the use of precision CNC machining. It's a standard, precisely fit bushing.
@@GunBlue490 Thank You
The Colt Nation Match is a very fine pistol. My Dad gave me a Combat Commander with an electro-less nickel finish almost 30 years ago. It was the first centerfire pistol I ever shot and I fell in love with it. It’s one of my most cherished pieces in my collection.
Thank you for sharing! As a kind heads up from a former electroplater, we performed electro-less nickel plating, without anodes/cathodes in a solution. Electrolysis is generally for the permanent removal of hair.
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Thank you for your reply and friendly correction.
By the way, congratulations on acquiring such a fine pistol. I wish everyone could shoot a quality 1911 pistol. It’s the pinnacle of handgun design.
25 years ago I was dedicated to my 1911s.
I discovered that the lighter the powder charge the tighter the groups.
I can’t recall the exact charge but somewhere around 4.2-4.3gr
I really enjoy your videos and admire you for sharing your knowledge.
God Bless.