I consider myself very interested in home theatre and well-read but still mildly informed so your comment intrigues me as much as it confuses me. Like yourself I'm sure, I want the best sound from home our audio system, which for me is a 7.2 system (Paradigm Studio Reference + dual SVS SB3000s). I always thought that cutting off the separates with a crossover of, say, 80hz, created an efficiency with them that let them perform the best because it's taking the load off them to let the powerhouse subs handle those frequencies. But your comment and Paul's advice seems to contradict that. Do I then just set the crossover to a much lower setting (40hz?) or set the fronts/backs (separates) to "Large" in my A/V receiver?
@@MindTravelsChannel I sat all mine at large, an do lfe+main also called dubble bass. And then set crossover at 60, that do roon EQ the rolloff at the 70's and match perfectly do the speakers and get perfect flat bass curve
I totally agree with you on this Paul. If you use the Full range speakers WITHIN their specified range ( which will vary from speaker to speaker) you should get the most out of your system. As a matter of fact I always make sure the center channel is up to par (or better) with my L & R (main) speakers. In my own systems I have always used Full range speakers with extensive range for surround. That way even if the surround signal/sound does not go as low or as high as the speaker can, I will always have a clean full undistorted sound as the speaker can handle more than it is given.
I can assure you that unless you have a 6-figure speaker, it cannot “handle more than it is given”. It’s very very difficult to meet the Dolby standards (e.g., 105dB peaks) at the listening position, full range +/- 6dB, etc…
As a contradicting thought. If the speakers run down to 38Hz , and my system has a subwoofer that covers at least 80-20Hz. Than cutting the main speaker at 50Hz will put less stress on the main speaker and theoretically can allow louder listening and thus improve the sound quality. The exact cutoff frequency of the main speaker is a try and error game that strongly depends on the speakers combination and room acoustics. And back to home theater. Yes it’s great to have a central speaker that can play at full range.
I've basically commented the same thing. Paul is definitely overlooking the fact that he himself has said many times that it's a good practice to cut your speakers off at the bottom end and let a subwoofer take care of the lower frequencies
Agree Paul. It is in my opinion also the best way. But many receivers don’t doing bass management, no signal on sub out, when you set all the speakers on full range. I worked a way around this with building all 9 channels active speakers with fusion amps from Hypex and a miniDsp to create the subs out. Was not cheap, a hell to fine tune the system. But so satisfying!! A hobby they say !! Greets Wim from Belgium. Thx for all your education videos !!!!
On DTS's website in the early 2000's. "5 identical full-range speakers equi-distant from the listener". But most of us can't do that. In my "everyday" room I cross my Mordaunt-Short Aviano center and surrounds at 100hz. In my livingroom my 5 MB Quart Vera's are all set to Full Range. Two smaller subs are LFE only. But I listen at moderate volumes. For most of us, size, position and volume, it's all about compromise. 🙂
Actually the main issue with running cinema speakers at full range is because most home cinema amplifiers aren’t really capable of driving those speakers at full range especially when all the channels are running. Using a crossover and a good active subwoofer means the amp isn’t stressed out and the main speakers are much easier to drive when it’s limited in range. A good compromise between Paul’s suggestion and the other approach is to run a REL 3D theater sub configuration
Three identical full-range speakers across the front, so there is the least possible amount of change in response (volume, quality and so on) as sounds move from side-to-side following the action on the screen. At the very least, use the brand's recommended center channel speaker for the L/R speakers being used, for the same reason stated earlier. Seems obvious, but it is surprising how often people mix and match from different series or even brands.
Good point about the three identical across the front. Many times you can detect a change like for instance when a sound or voice moves from the center to the right or left speaker there can be a noticeable difference.
I don't agree entirely with the full range comment. It really depends on your speakers. For instance: if the woofers roll off at 50 hertz, it may be wise to cut them off at that point and let your subwoofer take over. This will make the woofers "struggle" less at those frequencies and give you more control over the crossover point. As for the center speaker: my center speaker is basically better and louder than my bookshelf speakers and boy this it sound good with movies. Good center speakers are in my opinion definitely underrated
I have B&W 804 mains and HTM3 center. All are rated down to 38Hz. But when I have my processor set to a 40Hz crossover to the sub. That sounds better to me than having only the .1 LFE sent to the sub.
I liked my home theater but currently, just have stereo , I never used my cntr. speaker tho' because using it made the mains sound less than they can be ? makes no sense but it is what it is ,and the mains give a center image anyway right ? .
I get it. My main R-L speakers give a great center image and are generally better sounding than the center channel (from the same line), so I've run it without a center channel at times and really enjoyed it. Though it is said that the center channel is most important, I find it is also most easily left-out compared to all the other channels.
@@dank.6942 I used to go with a B&W 5.1 setup , eventually dumped the center , now have B'shelf, Dynaudio Emit 20's kinda want to get back to 5.1 ,still, don't think I'd use a cntr. channel again . thanks for the input .
I have had very good luck letting the speakers, including center speaker, do most of the bass handling, it helps with the timbre of voices, but I still don't run it full range. I will cross it over at about 70 hz, so the small-ish woofers aren't being asked to really rumble with super low bass effects. It affords me the ability to play the whole system louder without woofer distortion, and the subwoofers earn their keep.
Do you lose the cinema sound effects (such as a bullet whizzing by your head) running all your speakers full range? Is it possible to run LCR full range and the height/surround with DSP? What processor would you recommend that gives that level of control?
Hello Paul, thank you for your interesting video. Do you have a subwoofer in your home cinema setup? And how does the subwoofer work with your speakers when you run them full range? Greetings from Berlin Germany by Angelo Jaramillo
Depends on the size of the room. Having so many Full range speakers if the room is to small then there will be allot of pressure that doesnt know where to go. Also when not correctly configured the full range rear speakers could absorb the sound of the front speakers. It's really difficult to calibrate a more then 2 speaker system when full range. And im not only talking because of the distance between every speaker and your ear and what happens while the sound is traveling to your ears. Thats why a single sub and maybe only full front speakers sound better because it's easier to calibrate. Those waves dude!😅
Hi Paul. I will certainly try your full range for all drivers approach. Would I be reaching too far to think you’ve already designed a center channel speaker but are on the fence about producing it? Where do I mail my check to get you building a center channel?
well you're not going to have a sub running at full range, rolling it off at -36 DB on main speakers at 40 Hz is advisable pragmatic prevents phase shift. it depends on the crossover and how you set it up! using an active speaker management system. and that doesn't have to be DSP.
Well I don't think what he said is controversial at all. I am going to say something controversial about CENTERS. You (usually) don't need a center channel! I see all these setups where an individual has a 60" or less size screen and a 3.1 set up with the center underneath or on top and...... right up against the sides of the TV they have the R/L channels and a 2 seat couch in front. Center channel in this case I THINK is pointless! You have effectively more/less just built a 3 piece sound bar with a sub. If you have a big room or a full on commercial theater with a lot of people sitting outside of the hot seat area then you need a center. There is my rant. Appreciate these videos Paul!
lol I agree. My 2ndary sys is the family room with a 75 in tv that sounds better with 2 speakers and a better dac+amp than a cheap demon ave with 5.1.4 My video.
Same here. Sounds best to me and the bass from surrounds is pressuring my head nicely. Which is not the case when using xover. Save your AVR, save your speakers all is nonsense. Headroom for what? It can get superloud already. Speakers run as full have much more presence
You still get it, but now it's worse because of the reflection points you've added to the equation (ceiling is worse than walls often) to the extent that doesn't matter, neither does the orientation of the center speaker. What you refer to is off axis listening, so just sit on axis.
It’s not fair to say a speaker which isn’t designed to be full range isn’t as good as one that is. I’m perfectly happy using an active high-pass and not relying on a HUGE inductor. Most home theater speakers I’ve seen are not designed, meant to be, or advertised as full range.
99% of speakers are NOT full range. That is the issue. To achieve Dolby standards of 105dB peaks (at the listening position), you need A LOT of power, and a very very good speaker. Most of you will not achieve that without clipping or distortion. And that’s OK - it’s very expensive to get to this reference level. So you need several subs and I would skip the center altogether. The more money you can spend per speaker the better! Fewer = better.
🖤😱analogies.. pros & cons..😂if that so be the case, it's the same as 'another' company claims their bookies deliver a solid 30Hz..! that's literally wall thumping, big-time bass‼and, that company whose name shall remain veiled.., produces this earth shattering bass from a 4.5" diaphragm..!🙄🤭 there's a thundering world of difference Paul, between measured and observed.. 🤔for instance, if you have to concentrate to hear the bass (as in, listen very intently/critically so you can single it out), then it ain't pushing 30Hz baby.. no way.. not now.. not ever..😘 _the above was an intentionally unendorsed personal opinion of an academically over-certified-non-engineer.. although definitely certifiable..🤪🥳🤪_
Do you even need a center speaker? Things can sound as if voices and other details are coming from in front when the speakers are actually on each side. So what’s the point of a center in well-tuned setups?
Yeah, I definitely don't believe that all of your home theater speakers are flat to 20hz. Your "full range" speakers roll off well before that. I promise you that as you yourself made a big deal about how deep your FR series plays. You also failed to mention distortion, and without substantial power in the low end, you're going to hit clipping before you overcome the room modes. Lastly, even if they are full range, they aren't in room unless you're overcoming standing waves with a good multisub setup. That is to say, there is no way that all your home theater speakers play flat to 20 hz. They give it up and the subs have to take over to fix the fact that out of 11(?) speakers, 2 might be optimally placed and even then still struggle to overcome the room below the transition frequency. Running home theater speakers full range is bad advice.
Good Morning Paul, Keep up with the good job with your videos. I enjoy your perspective. That being said, I think you missed the mark on your perspective regarding the center channel and subwoofer integration into the sound system. There are several things to take into account when matching all the speakers into a 7.1, 5.1 or 7.2 system. The two (2) biggest considerations would be Phase and Power. Like you I have done extensive work in the live sound arena, studio design, and theater design. I'll try not to make this a book in length. As you know, our ears are particularly sensitive to phase errors, as this is one of the ways our ears tell what direction the sound is coming from (the other being intensity). As we get lower in frequency, both the amplifier and the speakers exhibit phase shift. Depending on the amplifier and speaker, this error in phase can be dramatic; even being out by 180 degrees. Limiting the amplifiers and speakers (left, right, center, and surrounds) to frequencies of say 50Hz or 70Hz and above, moves (generally) this shift in phase to below the range produced by the speaker and its amplifier. A second benefit to his is that amplifier is not having to reproduce those power hungry frequencies, thus making your 100 or 200 watt amplifier more than adequate for normal efficiency speakers. Returning back to phase again, as you add more speakers reproducing long length lower frequencies (all being omni-directional because of the low frequency), they too are reflected off your floor, and walls; causing even more phase cancellation and buildup. In a perfect world you would like all these long length frequencies coming from one place. And as you have found out, having this source close to the listener helps. Think of a large stone cast into a placid lake. As the waves eminent from the stone, it looks good until contacting the shore and reflect back. Cast multiple stones into the placid lake at one time and you have chaos between the various waves. As they reflect off the shore your chaos even gets worse. The single stone has the most "clean" waveform. This is true for audio. This is why in theater sound be put the subwoofers close together, sending everything below 75Hz to them. We then adjust the time (read phase) of those subwoofers to match the main left, right and center speakers. This gives us the cleanest (tightest) bass within the theater. Mixing professionals knowing that surrounds speakers are going to be closer to the listeners, don't even send anything below 75Hz to them (normally even 90Hz). This keeps any long length low frequencies (that might be in a different time domain) from going to the subwoofers. Have an excellent day!
Too many years as a two channel audio listener. I have no need for home theater probably because I’m getting older and these new audio/video technologies don’t interest me
*CONGRATULATIONS!!!* 🎉🏆🎉 On behalf of PS Audio you will receive a plethora of special gifts. This includes an all expenses paid trip to Toledo Ohio. Your transportation will be the front seat of a Greyhound bus, and you will be staying at a slightly refurbished B&B at The Old South End!!! 😅 The Toledo Zoo will be part of your special prize itinerary! You will have free admission for three days, and all you can eat and drink. Each visit to the Zoo will will include a used pair of dungarees for you to wear while you scoop up the hippopotamus enclosure. _(Boots are not included)_
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I do the same thing with my home theater, I want all the speakers to play the whole spectrum.
But I reserve anything below 40hz to the subwoofer.
What should be crossover at? 80hz?
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Depends on your speakers capabilities.
I consider myself very interested in home theatre and well-read but still mildly informed so your comment intrigues me as much as it confuses me. Like yourself I'm sure, I want the best sound from home our audio system, which for me is a 7.2 system (Paradigm Studio Reference + dual SVS SB3000s). I always thought that cutting off the separates with a crossover of, say, 80hz, created an efficiency with them that let them perform the best because it's taking the load off them to let the powerhouse subs handle those frequencies. But your comment and Paul's advice seems to contradict that. Do I then just set the crossover to a much lower setting (40hz?) or set the fronts/backs (separates) to "Large" in my A/V receiver?
@@MindTravelsChannel I sat all mine at large, an do lfe+main also called dubble bass. And then set crossover at 60, that do roon EQ the rolloff at the 70's and match perfectly do the speakers and get perfect flat bass curve
@@TDuck1985 Thanks, I'll give that a try.
I totally agree with you on this Paul. If you use the Full range speakers WITHIN their specified range ( which will vary from speaker to speaker) you should get the most out of your system. As a matter of fact I always make sure the center channel is up to par (or better) with my L & R (main) speakers. In my own systems I have always used Full range speakers with extensive range for surround. That way even if the surround signal/sound does not go as low or as high as the speaker can, I will always have a clean full undistorted sound as the speaker can handle more than it is given.
I can assure you that unless you have a 6-figure speaker, it cannot “handle more than it is given”. It’s very very difficult to meet the Dolby standards (e.g., 105dB peaks) at the listening position, full range +/- 6dB, etc…
If it’s specified range is less than 20-20kHz, it is by definition not a full range speaker. 😂 Nice dodge. LoL
As a contradicting thought. If the speakers run down to 38Hz , and my system has a subwoofer that covers at least 80-20Hz. Than cutting the main speaker at 50Hz will put less stress on the main speaker and theoretically can allow louder listening and thus improve the sound quality. The exact cutoff frequency of the main speaker is a try and error game that strongly depends on the speakers combination and room acoustics.
And back to home theater. Yes it’s great to have a central speaker that can play at full range.
I've basically commented the same thing. Paul is definitely overlooking the fact that he himself has said many times that it's a good practice to cut your speakers off at the bottom end and let a subwoofer take care of the lower frequencies
Agree Paul. It is in my opinion also the best way. But many receivers don’t doing bass management, no signal on sub out, when you set all the speakers on full range. I worked a way around this with building all 9 channels active speakers with fusion amps from Hypex and a miniDsp to create the subs out. Was not cheap, a hell to fine tune the system. But so satisfying!! A hobby they say !! Greets Wim from Belgium. Thx for all your education videos !!!!
I run my HT system with a phantom center, off the L/R main speakers. Works great.
On DTS's website in the early 2000's. "5 identical full-range speakers equi-distant from the listener". But most of us can't do that. In my "everyday" room I cross my Mordaunt-Short Aviano center and surrounds at 100hz. In my livingroom my 5 MB Quart Vera's are all set to Full Range. Two smaller subs are LFE only. But I listen at moderate volumes. For most of us, size, position and volume, it's all about compromise. 🙂
Actually the main issue with running cinema speakers at full range is because most home cinema amplifiers aren’t really capable of driving those speakers at full range especially when all the channels are running. Using a crossover and a good active subwoofer means the amp isn’t stressed out and the main speakers are much easier to drive when it’s limited in range.
A good compromise between Paul’s suggestion and the other approach is to run a REL 3D theater sub configuration
Three identical full-range speakers across the front, so there is the least possible amount of change in response (volume, quality and so on) as sounds move from side-to-side following the action on the screen. At the very least, use the brand's recommended center channel speaker for the L/R speakers being used, for the same reason stated earlier. Seems obvious, but it is surprising how often people mix and match from different series or even brands.
Good point about the three identical across the front. Many times you can detect a change like for instance when a sound or voice moves from the center to the right or left speaker there can be a noticeable difference.
I don't agree entirely with the full range comment. It really depends on your speakers. For instance: if the woofers roll off at 50 hertz, it may be wise to cut them off at that point and let your subwoofer take over. This will make the woofers "struggle" less at those frequencies and give you more control over the crossover point. As for the center speaker: my center speaker is basically better and louder than my bookshelf speakers and boy this it sound good with movies. Good center speakers are in my opinion definitely underrated
Another great video Paul.
When is that book on Hime Theater coming out? I’d love to purchase it!
Thank you
I have B&W 804 mains and HTM3 center. All are rated down to 38Hz. But when I have my processor set to a 40Hz crossover to the sub. That sounds better to me than having only the .1 LFE sent to the sub.
Full range center that adequately matches the mains.
Awesome conversation. I'm going to buy one more Focal Sopra No. 3 and put it on its side on top of my coffee table.
I liked my home theater but currently, just have stereo , I
never used my cntr. speaker tho' because using it made the
mains sound less than they can be ? makes no sense but
it is what it is ,and the mains give a center image anyway right ? .
I get it. My main R-L speakers give a great center image and are generally better sounding than the center channel (from the same line), so I've run it without a center channel at times and really enjoyed it. Though it is said that the center channel is most important, I find it is also most easily left-out compared to all the other channels.
@@dank.6942 I used to go with a B&W 5.1 setup , eventually dumped the center , now
have B'shelf, Dynaudio Emit 20's kinda want to get back to 5.1 ,still, don't think I'd
use a cntr. channel again .
thanks for the input .
I have had very good luck letting the speakers, including center speaker, do most of the bass handling, it helps with the timbre of voices, but I still don't run it full range. I will cross it over at about 70 hz, so the small-ish woofers aren't being asked to really rumble with super low bass effects. It affords me the ability to play the whole system louder without woofer distortion, and the subwoofers earn their keep.
Do you lose the cinema sound effects (such as a bullet whizzing by your head) running all your speakers full range? Is it possible to run LCR full range and the height/surround with DSP? What processor would you recommend that gives that level of control?
Hello Paul, thank you for your interesting video. Do you have a subwoofer in your home cinema setup? And how does the subwoofer work with your speakers when you run them full range? Greetings from Berlin Germany by Angelo Jaramillo
Yes, of course. I have a big REL Predator in service in the theater and it works great. Connected to the LFE channel of my Emotiva processor.
Absolutely get a 8in center channel! Today, voice in a movie can do 50hz. Your center should be able to do 40hz!
My understanding that for movies, they are mixed to send everything below 80 hz to the LFE channel.
Until you're in a 50hz null, then it doesn't matter what you throw at the center speaker.
@@garyharper2943wrong , that’s not what Dolby atmos says. m.th-cam.com/video/JyxFgaMsaDA/w-d-xo.html
Depends on the size of the room. Having so many Full range speakers if the room is to small then there will be allot of pressure that doesnt know where to go. Also when not correctly configured the full range rear speakers could absorb the sound of the front speakers. It's really difficult to calibrate a more then 2 speaker system when full range. And im not only talking because of the distance between every speaker and your ear and what happens while the sound is traveling to your ears. Thats why a single sub and maybe only full front speakers sound better because it's easier to calibrate. Those waves dude!😅
Ok, Paul. When will the new transport be available?
Hi Paul. I will certainly try your full range for all drivers approach. Would I be reaching too far to think you’ve already designed a center channel speaker but are on the fence about producing it? Where do I mail my check to get you building a center channel?
Where is Chris? We wanna see him in a new video 😊
Agreed 100%. I could listen to Chris all day.
His voice helps to sleep 😂 I like to watch him unboxing speakers 😮😅😊
well you're not going to have a sub running at full range, rolling it off at -36 DB on main speakers at 40 Hz is advisable pragmatic prevents phase shift. it depends on the crossover and how you set it up! using an active speaker management system. and that doesn't have to be DSP.
Kinda like audiophile speakers that go higher than the human hearing range. 😂
Well I don't think what he said is controversial at all. I am going to say something controversial about CENTERS. You (usually) don't need a center channel! I see all these setups where an individual has a 60" or less size screen and a 3.1 set up with the center underneath or on top and...... right up against the sides of the TV they have the R/L channels and a 2 seat couch in front. Center channel in this case I THINK is pointless! You have effectively more/less just built a 3 piece sound bar with a sub. If you have a big room or a full on commercial theater with a lot of people sitting outside of the hot seat area then you need a center. There is my rant. Appreciate these videos Paul!
lol I agree. My 2ndary sys is the family room with a 75 in tv that sounds better with 2 speakers and a better dac+amp than a cheap demon ave with 5.1.4
My video.
Same here. Sounds best to me and the bass from surrounds is pressuring my head nicely. Which is not the case when using xover. Save your AVR, save your speakers all is nonsense. Headroom for what? It can get superloud already. Speakers run as full have much more presence
This being said
Yet everyone knows bass is none directional
As thunder is shaking my entire house 😂
go full range and better yet, stand your centre vertical so you get far less cone filtering
You still get it, but now it's worse because of the reflection points you've added to the equation (ceiling is worse than walls often) to the extent that doesn't matter, neither does the orientation of the center speaker. What you refer to is off axis listening, so just sit on axis.
It’s not fair to say a speaker which isn’t designed to be full range isn’t as good as one that is. I’m perfectly happy using an active high-pass and not relying on a HUGE inductor. Most home theater speakers I’ve seen are not designed, meant to be, or advertised as full range.
99% of speakers are NOT full range. That is the issue. To achieve Dolby standards of 105dB peaks (at the listening position), you need A LOT of power, and a very very good speaker. Most of you will not achieve that without clipping or distortion. And that’s OK - it’s very expensive to get to this reference level. So you need several subs and I would skip the center altogether. The more money you can spend per speaker the better! Fewer = better.
Are a really bad idea - unless you have exactly the same speaker as L/R
🖤😱analogies.. pros & cons..😂if that so be the case, it's the same as 'another' company claims their bookies deliver a solid 30Hz..! that's literally wall thumping, big-time bass‼and, that company whose name shall remain veiled.., produces this earth shattering bass from a 4.5" diaphragm..!🙄🤭 there's a thundering world of difference Paul, between measured and observed..
🤔for instance, if you have to concentrate to hear the bass (as in, listen very intently/critically so you can single it out), then it ain't pushing 30Hz baby.. no way.. not now.. not ever..😘
_the above was an intentionally unendorsed personal opinion of an academically over-certified-non-engineer.. although definitely certifiable..🤪🥳🤪_
Do you even need a center speaker? Things can sound as if voices and other details are coming from in front when the speakers are actually on each side. So what’s the point of a center in well-tuned setups?
Yes, you do because the center is on a separate channel (for starters) and there's no phantom arrangement that's going to be better, only worse.
Yeah, I definitely don't believe that all of your home theater speakers are flat to 20hz. Your "full range" speakers roll off well before that. I promise you that as you yourself made a big deal about how deep your FR series plays. You also failed to mention distortion, and without substantial power in the low end, you're going to hit clipping before you overcome the room modes. Lastly, even if they are full range, they aren't in room unless you're overcoming standing waves with a good multisub setup. That is to say, there is no way that all your home theater speakers play flat to 20 hz. They give it up and the subs have to take over to fix the fact that out of 11(?) speakers, 2 might be optimally placed and even then still struggle to overcome the room below the transition frequency. Running home theater speakers full range is bad advice.
Good Morning Paul, Keep up with the good job with your videos. I enjoy your perspective. That being said, I think you missed the mark on your perspective regarding the center channel and subwoofer integration into the sound system. There are several things to take into account when matching all the speakers into a 7.1, 5.1 or 7.2 system. The two (2) biggest considerations would be Phase and Power. Like you I have done extensive work in the live sound arena, studio design, and theater design. I'll try not to make this a book in length. As you know, our ears are particularly sensitive to phase errors, as this is one of the ways our ears tell what direction the sound is coming from (the other being intensity). As we get lower in frequency, both the amplifier and the speakers exhibit phase shift. Depending on the amplifier and speaker, this error in phase can be dramatic; even being out by 180 degrees. Limiting the amplifiers and speakers (left, right, center, and surrounds) to frequencies of say 50Hz or 70Hz and above, moves (generally) this shift in phase to below the range produced by the speaker and its amplifier. A second benefit to his is that amplifier is not having to reproduce those power hungry frequencies, thus making your 100 or 200 watt amplifier more than adequate for normal efficiency speakers. Returning back to phase again, as you add more speakers reproducing long length lower frequencies (all being omni-directional because of the low frequency), they too are reflected off your floor, and walls; causing even more phase cancellation and buildup. In a perfect world you would like all these long length frequencies coming from one place. And as you have found out, having this source close to the listener helps. Think of a large stone cast into a placid lake. As the waves eminent from the stone, it looks good until contacting the shore and reflect back. Cast multiple stones into the placid lake at one time and you have chaos between the various waves. As they reflect off the shore your chaos even gets worse. The single stone has the most "clean" waveform. This is true for audio. This is why in theater sound be put the subwoofers close together, sending everything below 75Hz to them. We then adjust the time (read phase) of those subwoofers to match the main left, right and center speakers. This gives us the cleanest (tightest) bass within the theater. Mixing professionals knowing that surrounds speakers are going to be closer to the listeners, don't even send anything below 75Hz to them (normally even 90Hz). This keeps any long length low frequencies (that might be in a different time domain) from going to the subwoofers. Have an excellent day!
Too many years as a two channel audio listener. I have no need for home theater probably because I’m getting older and these new audio/video technologies don’t interest me
Remove what your speakers can't produce according to specification.
First! 😂
*CONGRATULATIONS!!!*
🎉🏆🎉
On behalf of PS Audio you will receive a plethora of special gifts. This includes an all expenses paid trip to Toledo Ohio.
Your transportation will be the front seat of a Greyhound bus, and you will be staying at a slightly refurbished B&B at The Old South End!!! 😅
The Toledo Zoo will be part of your special prize itinerary! You will have free admission for three days, and all you can eat and drink. Each visit to the Zoo will will include a used pair of dungarees for you to wear while you scoop up the hippopotamus enclosure.
_(Boots are not included)_
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I thought before you were actual spam. 😆
@@Bassotronics Come on! That doesn’t look like spam. That looks like some old geezer trying to be funny! 😁
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@@danielramirezv I like to post the “First” comment, and I do it often. Many times people respond to me as if I’m a repugnant jerk. So, I was just playing with you to see what kind of response I would get from you! 😀
I love my new PS Audio FR5….sooo realistic.
I agree with you because that’s what Dolby Atmos also said (it’s not a debate)…my video
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Trump is back... Back again.... Lloralo kuka