"the bridge will be eyewateringly expensive" Well yes, when an engineer tells you "anything is possible if you throw enough money at it" that's code for "this will cost an ungodly amount of money, but if you insist..."
Don't jump to conclusions,like that, it will be a perfectly reasonable amount, until it's started, then the costs will soar, , to combat, inflation, deflation, wage rises, cost of materials, running overdue, the weather, the soil structure, the clouds, shortage of wellington boots,the lack of Guinness, too much Guinness, the tide is in, the tide went out, ,, see perfectly reasonable, one just needs to find the right reason for the costs and expenses to rise!!! But that said, it will never happen and to be fair ,, who the hell wants it to??
chris bond the real reason is the crooks in Westminster will have a feeding frenzy with tax payers money. Any time the English government is involved you can be sure it’s a criminal enterprise. Just another excuse to steal from the public and give it to their Tory cronies.
This bridge seems like it would the subject of a video years from now but not in a good way. More like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. A thirty mile long bridge across some of the harshest waters in the world. What could go wrong?
@@timperry6948 : The bridge is possible. Not sure it's practical, as you'd want at least one petrol station along the way, but it's quite possible. And likely quite expensive.
And what a con trick that was. UK public were told it was a UK-French JV. My late uncle invested approx £5k and it effectively vanished. I inherited his shares in 1998 which were not worth selling and it ended up a French company . I had my first dividend payment in around 2015 of I think under 2 quid and same story since.
Rob, Remainers like you are just looking to whine no matter what the topic is. We are leaving the EU and we will all be better for it - accept that fact and get over yourself. You should be glad we now have a prime minister capable of action, as oppose to a hand-wringing weakling Remainer.
Great Strategy to waste a lot of resources and really fall behind on higher difficulties. But very doable on easy mode. Which Johnson really seems to believe he is playing on... I know the feeling though, I love the sense of Wonder as well, no matter how childish that is :)
@@jcxz983 , You can get about half of wonders at emperor and win wars. Harder than that you are unlikely to get many early wonders. If you put a lot effort to science then you will get a few later wonders.
**15 Years Later** Scotland: "Thanks for helping us build that bridge between independent Scotland and United Ireland, it really brought two of us closer together!"
Or the Celtic Federation is formed. Really convenient for the the. Independent nation. Before it would of been hard for them to be united. Thanks England!
@@EllRiver Better ,then, to build it between Kintyre and the Antrim coast, But even though that is a much shorter crossing, and would be a lot cheaper, it would still be economically completely unfeasible. There is also little demand or need for any Northern Irish fixed link. It's not as if you are connecting huge industrial hubs or populations. Just what is it for, then? Tourists? Day trippers? The present passenger and vehicle ferry services are more than adequate and have plenty of spare capacity. It's a vanity project, pure and simple, from a vacuous, foolish and childish politician who has form for wasting vast amounts of money on monumentally silly projects involving bridges.
A diversionary tactic? If there is a huge pink elephant charging towards you, are you going to worry about the standard sized grey elephant in front of it?
They would see the 1970s tower blocks and sectarian bullshit and turn back. I have been to larne once, and I regretted the journey. The other times is just to get the boat.
England: Builds bridge unifying Scotland and Northern Island Scotland and Nothern Island: Hold hands while declaring independence and happily skipping away
It would be amazing with a bridge when both NI and Scots are part of EU as that would provide all the advantages of being inside the market. It's the other way around right now as there would need to be a massive toll station by the bridge.
@@tomblack4634 there's ways around that. Under international law, peoples have a right to self determination. That, and we're joined to the UK a treaty. It may mean going through a legal route to force a referendum to happen, but it won't be able to be stopped wholesale as long as people continue to vote for independence parties.
The symbolism of connecting Britain and Ireland with a bridge is not something that the already volatile atmosphere in northern Ireland needs, not to mention the infrastructure and distance from urban centers. It would make far more sense go from northern Ireland to the Isle of man, then on to Britain anyway if we are going for a project this big
@@Litany_of_Fury You should look up what washed ashore on the coast of Eastern Africa when the Christmas Tsunami of 2004 hit. It was not as bad a flood as in Asia, but turns out somebody had been storing chemical and nuclear waste underwater off the coast.
I can see it now, the grand opening of the bridge between Scotland and N. Ireland. The very next day, both declare they are leaving the UK and making their own country, with blackjack and hookers.
Chris Klitou Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Spain, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden are all independent states
Scotland is not going to leave the union because they are beyond fucked economically with out England to prop them up and its because of this that the EU can say "oh we'll happily have them" simply because its a prestige boost the EU but in reality it'll look more like a repeat of Greece
@@grdn2607 none of those countries are independent. You can't call yourself independent if the EU negotiates your trade deals,some use the Euro, have to have freedom of movement and ECJ control's your laws That's not independence
The fact that HS2 ballooned in cost to over £100 billion and that is considered still viable is more of a problem. The economy of Northern Ireland has only experienced modest development investment from Westminster in the past 20 years and the Tories did not hurry to resolve the suspension of devolved government in the past 3 years. The lack of functional government greatly hurt the NI economy and the health sector. I am from Northern Ireland and I have to agree with Nicola Sturgeon, this is classic Johnson. A diversionary tactic.
We live in a world where China can make a high speed rail across an entire massive country in the time it takes the UK to lay 130m of tracks between London and Birmingham.
I think you HAVE to note that per capita in Ni every year receives £5000 from direct subsidies from Westminster ( so per head in NI it receives £5000 from england and is at a constant budget defici and relies totally on income from westminster). In fact England as a country gives money to every other part of the uk.
@@imahuman1996 A huge part of the cost of development is environmental regulations and legalese. During the early 20th century the US used to build massive engineering projects in record time, but as environmental protection became a bigger concern projects often had to go through years long environmental review. The local community also had to be consulted since projects like that could effect the environment from pollution, noise, and traffic. Such projects could also effect property values. Also if someone's property is in the way of the project that could lead to more legal wrangling and imminent domain isn't cheap. The Chinese government being an autocracy doesn't care about any of that and they just build stuff regardless of the impact on the environment and people.
@@user-ku3bu7se8n This is because the UK economy is largely run for the benefit of the south-east of England. You're assuming a static situation after the reunification of Ireland, or Scottish independence. I think that there would be a retrenchment in both cases in the short term. In the longer term, running their economies to optimise their own growth would see them better off. Though I personally despise the SNP's fake nationalist, socialist agenda.
Won't happen. The EU will be gone by the end of the year. It is seriously falling apart now, and tjat is before Trump starts his inevitable trade war with ith them.
@@horseradishpower9947 Oh, if only you weren't so utterly gullible and willing to believe grifters and ultra nationalists you wouldn't have hurt our country for your vanity.
British public: pays billions in tolls over time and also creates opportunities on both sides of Scotland and northern ireland in turn which in turn reinvests in the economy and makes it more likely for higher investment in the NHS xoxo
Yes but Portpatrick and the Stranraer area infrastructure is woefully inadequate. Even getting to Cairnryan to sail across to Larne or Belfast is a pain in the arse. Both the A75 and the A77, while getting a few improvements over the years, are still very poor routes.
@@grahamlive I know next to nothing about the Portpatrick area, thanks for filling me in! It does strike me as odd that infrastructure to the bridge is even an issue. It's like saying "We can't build your house because you don't have a driveway!".
@@jamesbeesley2767 and that would stop someone who wanted independence why? If someone is motivated enough to push for independence, I highly doubt a bridge that they never asked for is going to be enough to entice them to stay.
They don’t have to bother the amount of explosives under the water. The point the bridge would cross at its southern point has been an ammunition dump for decades.
Theory is that for a huge infrastructure project like this the government will borrow against future economic growth. Like getting a mortgage for a home extension which adds value might be easier than getting a smaller loan for something else. Thing is local services benefit everyone and stimulate economic growth anyway. So I sometimes wonder if the whole economic theory is a load of rubbish.... Will it become a commuter route? Or will it just benefit the rich?
@@albertoa.r.5886 That assumes that people and businesses are still buying at the same rate as they are now. But if prices go up and people and businesses can afford less, they buy less, save where they can, businesses do lay-offs forcing more people to buy less and thus less business so fewer orders, on and on, all of which means dwindling tariffs because there is a dwindling market.
First HS2, now this? How much money will be spent on transport that isn’t accessible to the majority of people? That money could be spent on more impactful things.
Will H.S.2 ever be finished? So far Johnson Senior has made money from this ENGLISH venture, the excess money from yet another venture would go to offshore havens!!!
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Lefties doing what they do best. Mixing things up for the sake of misleading their viewers. If I were you, I'd blacklist or remove these guys from your subs. There is a ton of indirect and subtle suggestions that the UK is now doing things wrong since it left the EU, for one- the snarky advertisements that were made by the dutch, when the UK was getting round to finalise brexit. The EU is more or less an enemy of the UK, but with this "my first news channel" Which unironically was when this channel started to kick off with the views. Left wing shit being left wing shit. Under the guise of that same male feminist simpy voice. With regards to "TLDR is a super small company, run by a few people with the help of some amazing volunteers. We are primarily fan sourced with most of our funding coming from donations and ad revenue. No shady corporations, no one telling us what to say. We can't wait to grow further and help more people get informed. Help support us by subscribing, following and backing on Patreon. Thanks!" - I'm going to hazard a guess that Mr Soros will be happy to fund this little raghole for the years to come. Just spreading the word now so something can be done about it.
A 20.3KM tidal dam between torr head and campbelltown could generate GW of tidal energy and has the benefit of being able to house both road and rail connections inside the top of it which would run under the level of the sea allowing ships to pass overhead. The only issue is connecting it to infrastructure on either end.
It would be funny if when the bridge finally opens its commonly known as the Sturgeon Bridge and used as a symbol of the unity of the newly founded Celtic union of a united Ireland and independent Scotland :p
@wildsurfer12 If Boris can't secure an FTA with the EU by the end of the year (which, if you look at both sides red lines, is almost a certainty), there will have to be a hard border somewhere: either on ireland on in the Irish sea. Nevertheless, it will likely see the two irelands making the decision to reunite as either one of these outcomes would ruin the Northern Irish Economy. Furthermore, if Scotland doesn't get its second referendum, it might choose to leave by force
Totally the wrong way around. If people collectively took more responsibility for health, fitness, wellbeing then the burden on the NHS would be much lower. :)
First things First: Technically, there is not a snowball's chance in hell of a bridge being built. Given the length, depth of water, currents, winds, it is absolutely impossible to build the bridge. There is no question about this. There is no bridge anywhere in the world which comes close to being comparable. Therefore, the proposal can only be 100% political or for the benefit of the companies which could make millions from consultancy.
@@allanpurslow7106 Lol I meant metaphorically, with the Independence movement and his refusal to allow another vote. You honestly thought I meant that literally? That's hysterical...you made my day.
This is BRILLIANT! 1 Boris approves the bridge, London pays for it. 2. When it’ finished, it will connect the Republic of Scotland to the Republic of Ireland. 3. The bridge will be toll free for all EU licence-plated vehicles. 4. It will be named the BJ bridge 5. Saint Cameron will be appointed the bridge patron.
Ireland - We're now connected to the EU!! UK - *Leaves EU* Ireland - :/ Northern Ireland - We're now connected to the UK!! Scotland - *Leaves UK* Northern Ireland - :/
Having been a trawlerman in this area, the bridge would be closed most of the time during the winter, plus the Irish box is littered with munitions from the Second World War, these would need to be removed. As it stands the Irish box is one of the biggest marine life hotspots in Britain, because of the danger of said munitions. This area should be turned into a marine wildlife park? Plus the time it takes to build a bridge, who knows if we will still be using roads, what with flying vehicles etc, etc.
@@emmaisalone Half the fuckers on the road should not be permitted to drive. As hell would I give these morons a flying car. Can't wait for the robotic cars to go mainstream and then banning people from driving vehicles completely.
This idea of the bridge reaches the levels of stupidity of our Italian politicians when they proposed a bridge over the Strait of Messina. You know, it's an earthquake zone...
@@ekx5120 the longest japanese bridge is 13km, less than half the length of the one proposed, also it's not over open sea or a munitions/nuclear waste dump
Danu Miron No, but he makes the foolish decision to execute them. Dont these megalomaniac projects remind you of a certain guy over 70 years ago? Didn’t help him either.
You're right the local road is terrible, the A77 only gets decent once it's closer to Glasgow. No dual carriageway bypassing Ayr and further south, single carriageway passing through a village with trucks struggling to get through Maybole.
As much as I despise Bojo, I actually quite like the idea on paper. BUT - £20 billion? So there are thousands of people on the streets, the NHS is crumbling and many people have suffered a lot due to the government-imposed austerity. The UK has a HUNDRED times more homeless people than Japan even though there are almost twice as many people there. And Johnson wants to spend at least £20 billion on a bridge no one needs (let's be real here: it might cost as much as £60 billion)? Has Bojo found the money tree Theresa May spoke about? That's not even stupid; that's completely insane and only a complete lunatic could support this.
Thanks for another interesting and informative video. For future reference "Coxwain" is pronounced "Cox'n" similar to "Boatswain" being pronounced Bo'sun". Just thought you'd like to know.
@@simes2002 slang is not mis-spelling, unless it's mis-spelled.. and that's how you spell gotta. Also, I'm not the semi-pro news channel here, my personal standards aren't the issue ;)
Setting aside the "should they?" part, I got to thinking, what if they used decommissioned oil rigs? Like those float around and can reach depths of hundreds of meters, right? So why not take some that are retired by the fossil fuel industry, float them to locations along the route, lock them in place, then start pumping loose rock and concrete around them to make essentially "islands." The frame of the rigs would not be structural by the end of the process, they would just be there to give the stonework someplace to stay while under construction. I imagine they could use this method to create very stable pylons, if not at every point of the bridge's support, at least every 3-2 of them to give the rest more stability, similar to natural islands.
Surely something more like the Eurotunnel would make more sense. Also the idea of 'Symbolism' is pretty foolish. The Irish and Scots are not going to feel closer to the union they're going to feel closer to their common Celtic history. Dividing the UK even more. But hey if the English wanna build a bridge connecting them I'm all for it. Free bridge for the EU in 5-10 years.
@@nninjastrike2127 well obviously you'd come to a Dutch company if you want to build infrastructure in the sea. Even now after Brexit we can still trade together.
@@XEinstein Our government would hire a Dutch company but argue over every little thing until it takes 5 times longer and 10 times more expensive, possibly reaching a "disagreement" halfway through the build and the bureaucracy involved with finding a new company would add AT LEAST 5 years.
Given the current political climate this could be interpreted as the English paying to build a bridge connecting an independent Scotland and a united Ireland
I’m guessing Johnson is going to build that bridge as an attempt to reinforce the Union, even though Scottish independence & Irish unification are becoming increasingly appealing. If such events take place, Johnson essentially given Scotland & Ireland a free leavers’ gift.
2 billion and The investment returns of of “say” £2 billion would generate enough cash to build new ports, buy new ferries and run them 24 hours a day for free forever. Im with Nicola Sturgeon ... this is just a distraction.
Actually, if port capacity is limited then you have a good point. If true of another comment I read, that there is plenty of capacity, we wont even need new ports.
What's worse is the munitions are moved about by rough seas and bombs, etc. wash up on local beaches every year. It would be impossible to identify where everything dumped is these days.
The location of the bridge needs more work. A longer bridge with good connections to the existing infrastructure will provide more benefit than a shorter bridge to nowhere.
I've been wondering a few times if a bridge or tunnel between Wales and Ireland would have been possible. Say Holyhead to Bray or Sutton. The seas are much more shallow (only about 100m instead of >150m) and it would be a much faster connection between major population centers (Dublin to Liverpool/Manchester). It is a longer tunnel and would most likely be more expensive, but it would have a bigger economic impact, especially if also a rail connection is made in the same tunnel. Unfortunately due to Brexit this won't happen until the UK join's the EU again.
The purpose of Johnson’s bridge is to link the UK to Northern Ireland being part of the UK and a symbol of solidarity, a bridge from Wales to Southern Ireland would not serve that purpose.
@@kriss0214 It wouldn't serve the same purpose, I'm aware of that. However, in terms of economic impact a bridge between Scotland and Northern-Ireland is much less attractive than a bridge between Wales and Ireland. I didn't mention it as an alternative to the proposed bridge, but just as a project I have given thought that also crosses the Irish Sea.
An ideal high speed line would be Dublin - Rhyl - Liverpool - Manchester - Leeds. Possibly a branch to Sheffield and Hull. I disagree with the UK joining the EU again. The Channel Tunnel will not close any time soon and Switzerland, a non-EU member, has world class connections to Italy, Germany and France. I would like the ROI to complete the upgrades to their network. Especially a Cork - Dublin - Belfast high speed connection.
Boris airport, the garden bridge, the bendy buses, brexit, the water canons, the cable car and now this. It's one bad idea after another for Alexander Boris Johnson.
Can we just please see the back of that idiotic Fantasist Johnson. I live in London and pay a huge amount of council tax. That stupid proposal has cost Londoners £50,000,000
Staying in EU means UK need to fund infrastructure development and repay the debt of other underdeveloped countries, while UK get no fund from EU for its own infrastructure. Because UK, France, Germany are rich, they are the biggest budget contributors in the EU.
@@yipuhuang8523 I think you misunderstood my comment, I was talking about this particular project, not the UK as a whole. The EU funds construction projects across the whole of the union, it's that more underdeveloped regions receive more funding. This particular project would certainly get at least a few billion in EU funding. You can see the "Project part funded by the European Union" plaques all over the continent, especially in countries like Poland which have been rapidly constructing infrastructure over the past decade, helped partly financed by the EU.
As an American, I thought only the US Military would dump ammunition and nuclear waste. That being said WTF UK? You dump it in the middle of a shipping route and within 30 miles of civilization?
I live near STRANRAER, the nearest large town to Portpatrick. The nearest motorway to Stranraer is the M6. The main road linking the M6 to Stranraer is the A75, which joins the M6 at Gretna Green. Stranraer to Gretna (and the M6) is about ONE HUNDRED miles (about 2 hours) drive. For almost all of it's length it is SINGLE CARRIAGEWAY (one each way), and passes directly through 3 villages towards Dumfries. Since the railway was axed by Beeching decades ago, this is the only traffic route from Stranraer (and from ALL the ferry traffic from NI / Ireland) to get on to the motorway network. To that you need to factor in the 6 or 7 miles of country lanes to get to Port Partick, from Stranraer, before you'd get to the Boris Bridge. ALL THIS would need, and currently DOES NEED to be upgraded to decent Dual Carriageway standard a the the very least before anyone can even THINK about spending 20-30-40-50bn£ on a bridge! The speed limit for lorries on most of the A75 currently is only 40mph! and it's single carriageway! Let alone putting BACK the railway link from the main network in Dumfries. There is a line going up to Glasgow, but if you need to get to Dumfries on the train you have to go to Glasgow (north, 3 hours), change, then go to Edinburgh (east 1 hour), change, then you can go south again to finally get to Dumfries in about another 2 hours. A round trip of about 6 hours. I know, I've done it! So given the, what, 20bn£? it would take to dual the A75, another 20bn£? to put the railway back, which people here are screaming for right now, add to that the 20-50bn£? that it would cost for the bridge itself, it ain't NEVER gonna fly! It would cost as much as HS2! And that's just on the island of Britain. the Irish side would be additional. Having said all that WE NEED the A75 to be dualled NOW! AND the railway put back!
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A bridge to France is a better idea. Then Brexiteers can find work there.
@@AaronJCassidy the funny thing about that is its been proven that scotland can thrive being independent even if they had no oil. Oil is just basically a bonus.
Technically Lake Pontchartrain is a brackish estuary since it is partially connected to the ocean and I am now realizing that this is perhaps the most pedantic comment ever.
Scrap HS2. Scrap this "old way of thinking" bridge. Invest in a next generation national Hyperloop system connecting the entire UK with 5 hubs. London, Manchester, Cardiff, Edingurgh and Belfast. You wouldn't have the wind problem across the sea because it's all contained in a tunnel. You'd be able to get to and from any capital and connect the union in an unrivaled way, Better for the environment. Goods imported through Northern Ireland can be shipped straight to the capitals. Faster than HS2. Probably cheaper in the long run because the economic advantage of connecting us all will help pay for the cost. Puts our world renowned engineers and companies to work, empolys lots of local labour. Become a true world leader in environmental rapid transportation. Envy of the world. There, I've fixed everything, now go and make it happen because the government wont listen to a pleb like me making a comment on TH-cam.
As much as I hate this union I do think that a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland would be beneficial for both nations (Ireland and UK) and would make it easier for Scotland to branch out after Independence
Everyone’s quick to criticise Johnson or compare him to Trump in some form. But, despite how expensive this may be, it’s undoubtedly a good idea. If you criticise someone for everything they do wrong, you should accept when they do something right.
In view that the bridge could potentially last a long time, a quick estimate is a little over £100 off a ticket assuming that everyone is just a person, irrelevant of freight etc
160 / 300 meters deep, more expensive, more time consuming, and maybe difficult terrain might be good explanations. Also, not as fun as a useless piece of public budget thrown at nothing? :/
Sounds somewhat unfeasible but actually quite a nice idea. The UK, currently, really lacks big infrastructure projects (including high speed rail, big tunnels/bridges etc). I wonder if a combination of a tunnel & a bridge could work? Something like the Øresund Bridge from Denmark - Sweden.
Scotland and Northern Ireland both have a large proportion of the population wanting independence from the UK. By the time this bridge is built the UK might have split up. If it ends up that England paids for a bridge to connect an independent Scotland to a reunified Ireland then I've got no complaints about that.
Here's the thing, a lot of people on this thread are making the same observation, and they're all missing their own hypocrisy. "This bridge has no compelling economic case. It's just very expensive symbolism (the Union) that isn't worth paying for." "Oh hang on, it might turn out that it comes to symbolise something I support (Scotland & NI outside the Union). Oh, well, in that case it's money well spent! A thousand pounds from every taxpayer is an exquisite use of public resources if it ends up making Boris Johnson look silly!" There are many people who are complaining that it's just symbolism and we shouldn't be wasting the money. But it's not the money they really object to, it's the symbol. It turns out if you spend exactly the same amount of money on a white elephant with the *right* *kind* of symbolism, it's no longer a waste of money. To me, this is the most compelling case against it actually. The project is essentially a multi-million dollar stimulus to a grander culture war, where on both sides the value lies less in any tangible economics than in the potential to annoy their political opponents. And as someone who values political harmony and civility, I guess that makes it a no from me, regardless of who ends up on the winning side. Remember, the losers had to pay for that bridge, too. It would be the world's most expensive grievance factory.
Given there still isn't a motorway connecting Belfast and Derry/Londonderry the two main centres of population in N Ireland, this seems fanciful, and that's being kind about it. You can be sure, like other large infrastructure projects this size, it would end up costing 2 or 3 times those estimates and that is money that will not be spent elsewhere, much of it in N Ireland, which already has much of the greatest need in the UK. Even were it built, it will close every time the weather is very poor, so it offers no serious advantage over the present pretty good system of ferries. They represent a lot of investment too. Perhalps their operators will have to be compensated also? Another expense.
If Scotland gets independence & Ireland has a border poll in the next decade or two then this would be a hilarious gift from England for two countries that got away from them
The EU doesn't have any money. Their hugely bureaucratic "grants" are merely taxpayer money from the minority number of sovereign states who are net contributors - UK included - partially redistributed after charging for the appalling Brussels to Strasbourg to Brussels shuttle, and several other layers of EU bureaucracy are satisfied.
Funny you didn't mention Sinn Fein or the Republic at; I have serious doubts that Irish nationalists will be thrilled at the prospect of a British prestige project of this sort, I'm reminded of the lyrics sung by the dubliners: ' The sea, oh the sea is the gradh geal mo croide Long may it stay between England and me It's a sure guarantee that some hour we'll be free Oh, thank God we're surrounded by water.
Build the bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland and then have Scotland become a fully independent country and NI join Ireland with all in the EU. That sounds like the best signal of unity. England, Wales and London can join too.
The NHS already has about 40 million pound in Donations from Sir Tom and other old people doing charity walks during lock down, now where the heck has that gone.
TheTH-camGuy ni is very much a part of the uk. So why not. Nothing is thought of spending billions in London on transport so why not the north and ni too.
Goodness, what next? A tunnel under the English Channel? Ridiculous idea. They'll be considering building huge oil rigs in the North Sea next, one of the most inhospitable environments on the planet.
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"the bridge will be eyewateringly expensive"
Well yes, when an engineer tells you "anything is possible if you throw enough money at it" that's code for "this will cost an ungodly amount of money, but if you insist..."
Don't jump to conclusions,like that, it will be a perfectly reasonable amount, until it's started, then the costs will soar, , to combat, inflation, deflation, wage rises, cost of materials, running overdue, the weather, the soil structure, the clouds, shortage of wellington boots,the lack of Guinness, too much Guinness, the tide is in, the tide went out, ,, see perfectly reasonable, one just needs to find the right reason for the costs and expenses to rise!!! But that said, it will never happen and to be fair ,, who the hell wants it to??
chris bond the real reason is the crooks in Westminster will have a feeding frenzy with tax payers money. Any time the English government is involved you can be sure it’s a criminal enterprise. Just another excuse to steal from the public and give it to their Tory cronies.
@@karmabomb3768 that's a bit of an extreme opinion
@@globalincident694 extremely true.
Toll it and it will be a long term investment
You should collaborate with Real Engineering to revisit the feasibility of the bridge. Would be an interesting video
And Practical Engineering since he has a lot of past experience and videos with civil engineering
This bridge seems like it would the subject of a video years from now but not in a good way. More like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
A thirty mile long bridge across some of the harshest waters in the world.
What could go wrong?
If it’s possible to build a bridge between Alaska and Siberia, then it’s definitely possible to connect Scotland and NI.
We need a decent motorway between Manchester and Sheffield to start with and one to connect eastern counties to the North / Northen Midlands.
@@timperry6948 : The bridge is possible. Not sure it's practical, as you'd want at least one petrol station along the way, but it's quite possible.
And likely quite expensive.
It would definitely unify the UK. I mean, just look at how well the Channel Tunnel unified the EU... oh, wait.. nevermind.
And what a con trick that was. UK public were told it was a UK-French JV. My late uncle invested approx £5k and it effectively vanished. I inherited his shares in 1998 which were not worth selling and it ended up a French company . I had my first dividend payment in around 2015 of I think under 2 quid and same story since.
Rob Cottrell yes as the EU’s intricate interrelations are the exact same as the UKs.
hahaha your such a pessimist
North sea tunnel is still rather useful though
Rob, Remainers like you are just looking to whine no matter what the topic is.
We are leaving the EU and we will all be better for it - accept that fact and get over yourself.
You should be glad we now have a prime minister capable of action, as oppose to a hand-wringing weakling Remainer.
Johnson and I have something in common.
We ignore everything else and try to build all the Wonders in Civilization.
Great Strategy to waste a lot of resources and really fall behind on higher difficulties.
But very doable on easy mode. Which Johnson really seems to believe he is playing on...
I know the feeling though, I love the sense of Wonder as well, no matter how childish that is :)
@@jcxz983 , You can get about half of wonders at emperor and win wars. Harder than that you are unlikely to get many early wonders. If you put a lot effort to science then you will get a few later wonders.
@@suokkos Can anyone understand your comment.?
@@suokkos what game are you referring ???
@@noblenaveragemanointernet2582 Civilization
**15 Years Later**
Scotland: "Thanks for helping us build that bridge between independent Scotland and United Ireland, it really brought two of us closer together!"
Or the Celtic Federation is formed. Really convenient for the the. Independent nation. Before it would of been hard for them to be united. Thanks England!
All that and England went bust, oh dear 40 English pounds to the Scottish sterling. Can we sell you some wind or wave generated electricity?
Michael Green more like the scottish Stirling
@@EllRiver Better ,then, to build it between Kintyre and the Antrim coast, But even though that is a much shorter crossing, and would be a lot cheaper, it would still be economically completely unfeasible.
There is also little demand or need for any Northern Irish fixed link. It's not as if you are connecting huge industrial hubs or populations. Just what is it for, then? Tourists? Day trippers? The present passenger and vehicle ferry services are more than adequate and have plenty of spare capacity. It's a vanity project, pure and simple, from a vacuous, foolish and childish politician who has form for wasting vast amounts of money on monumentally silly projects involving bridges.
Chuckle. Boris will be putting a clause in ensuring Scotland cannot gain independence, as that would screw England.
The proclaimers would cross that bridge a total of 33.33333 times
This is the best comment.
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Bravo , you’ve effectively dated yourself though
@@Heavywall70 With a comment like this, I'd date him, too.
I was going to like this comment, but it's at 333, so I really don't want to spoil it...
Johnson "Sorry Scotland, you can't leave the UK, our bridge is in the way"
Northern Ireland: to Scotland let's go together 😂🤔
ASSANE MBOUP Johnson “oh bugger, I really didn’t think that one through, did I?”
@@bob_obba northern Ireland doesn't want to leave the UK
@@StevioGaming1 y don't they want to leave?
@@Valyssi Englandom Sounds good 😂
If you think people are pissed about HS2 now give this ten years and a quadrupling of the budget :p
Elion less negative environmental impact, more negative economical impact. apart from that yes very similar debate i think
Quadruple the budget and your still at a planning stalemate
A diversionary tactic? If there is a huge pink elephant charging towards you, are you going to worry about the standard sized grey elephant in front of it?
Gavin Stacey i prob wouldn’t care if it’s grey or pink, only that there are two Elephants charging towards me
@@gavinstacey8862 yes.
Imagine arriving in Northern Ireland and your first glimpse of the place is Larne 🤮
U-turn
Matthew Dunn hahahahahah,
fax
They would see the 1970s tower blocks and sectarian bullshit and turn back. I have been to larne once, and I regretted the journey. The other times is just to get the boat.
They eat their own babies and inter breed in larne ffs think of the film the hills have eyes, about turn
@Elliot Roger fan account larne is in Northern Ireland not Ireland ffs educate yourself🇬🇧
England: Builds bridge unifying Scotland and Northern Island
Scotland and Nothern Island: Hold hands while declaring independence and happily skipping away
It would be amazing with a bridge when both NI and Scots are part of EU as that would provide all the advantages of being inside the market. It's the other way around right now as there would need to be a massive toll station by the bridge.
It just goes to show Boris has no intention of splitting the UK 👍🇬🇧
It's not really up to Boris 😂 He's not a Scottish voter
Josh Shanks it’s not up to the Scottish either they won’t be allowed to leave.
@@tomblack4634 there's ways around that. Under international law, peoples have a right to self determination. That, and we're joined to the UK a treaty. It may mean going through a legal route to force a referendum to happen, but it won't be able to be stopped wholesale as long as people continue to vote for independence parties.
"I'm going to build a bridge and the Irish are going to pay for it."
Ya the northern Irish
Bbuuuhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it will be a beautiful bridge a perfect bridge.
MisterJei LOL
A bridge is still a better symbol than a wall.
sweet christ just build a decent road from Belfast to Derry for Gods sake
Indeed. And from Glasgow south to Stranraer.
Fraser McFadyen Stranraer is in dire need of that
No 🤣
exactly this, all that money should go into moregrounded infrastructure in roads & hospitals before vanity projects
The symbolism of connecting Britain and Ireland with a bridge is not something that the already volatile atmosphere in northern Ireland needs, not to mention the infrastructure and distance from urban centers. It would make far more sense go from northern Ireland to the Isle of man, then on to Britain anyway if we are going for a project this big
Nuclear waste and explosives?
No worries.
Yeah, Boris will drill through them. What's the problem? The guy is a space cadet.
You should look up what sank off the coast of Norway during the cold war.
And that's before the IRA get their hands near it lmao
@@Litany_of_Fury You should look up what washed ashore on the coast of Eastern Africa when the Christmas Tsunami of 2004 hit. It was not as bad a flood as in Asia, but turns out somebody had been storing chemical and nuclear waste underwater off the coast.
Did you mean nucular waste ?
just imagine this bridge being finished by the time Scotland has left the UK ;)
And northern Ireland
I can see it now, the grand opening of the bridge between Scotland and N. Ireland. The very next day, both declare they are leaving the UK and making their own country, with blackjack and hookers.
With the present state of the U.K. Economy, ‘Chance would be a fine thing’!
Johnson knows Scotland won’t leave the U.K., that’s why he’s doing this lol. You think he would do this if he was scared Scotland was gonna leave?
@@threemashup2662 would have Cameron called the referendum unless he was sure to win ?? 🤣
UK: connects Scotland to Northern Ireland.
Scotland: Becomes independent and rejoins EU.
How can a a country be independent but join the EU 🤦♂️
Chris Klitou Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Spain, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden are all independent states
Scotland is not going to leave the union because they are beyond fucked economically with out England to prop them up and its because of this that the EU can say "oh we'll happily have them" simply because its a prestige boost the EU but in reality it'll look more like a repeat of Greece
grdn r/whoosh!!! LoL
@@grdn2607 none of those countries are independent.
You can't call yourself independent if the EU negotiates your trade deals,some use the Euro, have to have freedom of movement and ECJ control's your laws
That's not independence
Who's paying? Scotland or Northern Ireland? Or we getting the Mexicans to pay like they did for the wall?
Rhys Smith scotland and northern Ireland pay for less than they use, they are both net receivers of english money.
Ah, beat me to it. Maybe BadHair will steal the money from Military Housing, as Trump did.
@@inquaanate2393 Yes, give us all your hard earned money so we can prop up our extravagant lives.
Mexico would probably pay for this before they'd pay for a wall.
Callie Masters mexico has become the wall. Trumps tariff threats have paid off and they are now stopping people passing through
The fact that HS2 ballooned in cost to over £100 billion and that is considered still viable is more of a problem. The economy of Northern Ireland has only experienced modest development investment from Westminster in the past 20 years and the Tories did not hurry to resolve the suspension of devolved government in the past 3 years. The lack of functional government greatly hurt the NI economy and the health sector.
I am from Northern Ireland and I have to agree with Nicola Sturgeon, this is classic Johnson. A diversionary tactic.
We live in a world where China can make a high speed rail across an entire massive country in the time it takes the UK to lay 130m of tracks between London and Birmingham.
@@imahuman1996 Yeah, because China doesn't give shit about who's living on the land they need for the railroad.
I think you HAVE to note that per capita in Ni every year receives £5000 from direct subsidies from Westminster ( so per head in NI it receives £5000 from england and is at a constant budget defici and relies totally on income from westminster). In fact England as a country gives money to every other part of the uk.
@@imahuman1996 A huge part of the cost of development is environmental regulations and legalese. During the early 20th century the US used to build massive engineering projects in record time, but as environmental protection became a bigger concern projects often had to go through years long environmental review. The local community also had to be consulted since projects like that could effect the environment from pollution, noise, and traffic. Such projects could also effect property values. Also if someone's property is in the way of the project that could lead to more legal wrangling and imminent domain isn't cheap. The Chinese government being an autocracy doesn't care about any of that and they just build stuff regardless of the impact on the environment and people.
@@user-ku3bu7se8n This is because the UK economy is largely run for the benefit of the south-east of England. You're assuming a static situation after the reunification of Ireland, or Scottish independence. I think that there would be a retrenchment in both cases in the short term. In the longer term, running their economies to optimise their own growth would see them better off. Though I personally despise the SNP's fake nationalist, socialist agenda.
Scotland leaves UK over EU membership - This is our bridge now. UK - surprise pikachu face.
Won't happen. The EU will be gone by the end of the year. It is seriously falling apart now, and tjat is before Trump starts his inevitable trade war with ith them.
@@horseradishpower9947
Oh, if only you weren't so utterly gullible and willing to believe grifters and ultra nationalists you wouldn't have hurt our country for your vanity.
@@horseradishpower9947 Or Trump will feel the Bern and not get elected.
As long as Scotland takes on the debt for bridge.
@@horseradishpower9947 Bwahahahaha. Your delusion is a fascinating place.... but seriously, take your meds now.
Boris: billions for a bridge
The British public: pls can we just have them 40 hospitals u promised xoxo
The 40 hospitals will be along the bridge.
@@petersmith9689 Each with a toll. It'll be a true synthesis of the American and UK healthcare systems, the worst of both worlds.
@@socket1157 We will need to train them here, make sure they're British and contract them into the NHS for at least 15 years!
British public: pays billions in tolls over time and also creates opportunities on both sides of Scotland and northern ireland in turn which in turn reinvests in the economy and makes it more likely for higher investment in the NHS xoxo
One point of correction: Larne is a major port in Northern Ireland and has excellent infrastructure connections, as far as NI goes.
Absolutely.
Yes but Portpatrick and the Stranraer area infrastructure is woefully inadequate. Even getting to Cairnryan to sail across to Larne or Belfast is a pain in the arse. Both the A75 and the A77, while getting a few improvements over the years, are still very poor routes.
@@grahamlive I know next to nothing about the Portpatrick area, thanks for filling me in! It does strike me as odd that infrastructure to the bridge is even an issue. It's like saying "We can't build your house because you don't have a driveway!".
@@grahamlive it's a project that would pay dividends for a long time.
@@WarWulf778 yeah if your driveway was say two miles long.
If it is finished, it will probably run from and independent Scotland to a united Ireland.
Maybe, but that’s the point, to make it too difficult for Scotland or Northern Ireland leave the UK before the bridge is completed.
@@jamesbeesley2767 and that would stop someone who wanted independence why? If someone is motivated enough to push for independence, I highly doubt a bridge that they never asked for is going to be enough to entice them to stay.
@@jamesbeesley2767 the choice is simple and a dead cat bridge won't stop independence by any means
@@jamesbeesley2767 Northern Ireland could always be expanded to cover the other 26 counties.
@@jamesbeesley2767 How does Boris building a vanity project make anything difficult?
Not seeing your point.
20 billion pounds. An Australian quote: Tell them their dreaming.
yeah we can't even build a rail line for less than 100 billion!
It will be about £60-£80 billion
How much did the Channel tunnel cost?
@@NyalBurns still less than it will cost. This is much harder than a railway line. It would end up costing easily over £100 billion
From Castle?
Your thumbnail calls it a 300 mile bridge
Sorry complete typo on my part! Luckily we have a new animator/designer starting Monday 😅 - Jack
@@TLDRnews And *charging. Good luck to the new employee! Thanks as well.
@@TLDRnews 2:15 you said 120 miles but wrote 102
The number of typos you guys leave in your published work is amazing 🙂, you might want to consider basic QA if you want to taken more seriously
I enjoy it too, the number of typos is significant though, would you prefer that I keep my thoughts to myself?
I already see the IRA eyeing up this bridge
Some mortar boys are wetting at the mouth for that.
Every IRA member when it's done: 🤤🤤🤤🤤 thats a reaaaaaaal nice and long bridge you got there Johnny 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Only if the Tolls are more expensive than the ferry... ever been on that thing around a Celtic match?
They don’t have to bother the amount of explosives under the water. The point the bridge would cross at its southern point has been an ammunition dump for decades.
Damian O’ Donnell nah, they’d only be thinking that if there was an orange order march going across it that day.
Does Johnson wanna do this to delay a Scottish and North Ireland Referendum?
Sure looks like it.
Kinda sounds desperate, doesn't it?
yeh
Just Vienna neither will vote leave anyways
23 Studios agreed
Boris wants to build a bridge between potentially an independent Scotland & possibly a reunified Ireland.
Funded by the British tax payer. 😂
Hmmm 🤔🤔 maybe it's will benefit the EU, when they become EU member states 😂🤣
Well, the bridge will be built to prevent an independent Scotland and a reunified Ireland.
What are you talking about, both are British, and are most definitely going to stay that way for at least your lifetime. Did you mean English?
I was about to type that same thing, and follow with
ASSANE MBOUP's comment of them joining the EU. It would be wonderfully ironic
@@kodaloid We will all back in the UK in 7 years
If I’m honest I find it funny borough funds have been cut in the last 10 years and somehow out of nowhere there’s money for a bridge ??🤦🏻♂️
Theory is that for a huge infrastructure project like this the government will borrow against future economic growth. Like getting a mortgage for a home extension which adds value might be easier than getting a smaller loan for something else. Thing is local services benefit everyone and stimulate economic growth anyway. So I sometimes wonder if the whole economic theory is a load of rubbish.... Will it become a commuter route? Or will it just benefit the rich?
If there's no deal with the EU then the UK government is going to be swimming in tariffs money. Around 20 billion per year or something like that.
@@albertoa.r.5886 You do realise, that tariffs are paid by end consumer, so any money GB government will be "swimming in", will be from your pocket?
@@MouflonTheAchiever that's why I said "the government". Everything is going to become more expensive and the EU is the perfect scapegoat to blame.
@@albertoa.r.5886 That assumes that people and businesses are still buying at the same rate as they are now. But if prices go up and people and businesses can afford less, they buy less, save where they can, businesses do lay-offs forcing more people to buy less and thus less business so fewer orders, on and on, all of which means dwindling tariffs because there is a dwindling market.
Title: 30mile
Thumbnail: 300mile
300 meter?
300 meters are 0.3 km which means it's less than 1/4 mile
And 102km equals "one hundred and twenty kilometers".
Not good with numbers...
No seriously there a typo on the thumbnail lol
A 300-mile bridge would be impressive
I’m sure this is the plot of a Thunderbirds episode. Incredibly long bridge, opening day storm, vast undersea munitions dump 🤔 hmmmmm.
Nothing a small nuke couldn't fix ;-)
But the baddy was bald not a mop haired bafoon
First HS2, now this? How much money will be spent on transport that isn’t accessible to the majority of people? That money could be spent on more impactful things.
Will H.S.2 ever be finished? So far Johnson Senior has made money from this ENGLISH venture, the excess money from yet another venture would go to offshore havens!!!
2:14
Narrator: 120miles
On-screen: 102 miles
Come on guys, I want to sub on Patreon but this is the kind of thing that stops me.
Ironically by becoming a patron you would probably help TLDR from making sure mistakes like these don't make the final cut. Make a choice.
Hopefully they hire an editor.
Sorry, good spot! Lucky your hopes have become a reality too, we have a new animator/editor staring Monday so I don't have to do it all! Doesn't mean you have to support on Patreon but we wouldn't say no 😉 - Jack
Thanks for the time stamp
Lefties doing what they do best. Mixing things up for the sake of misleading their viewers. If I were you, I'd blacklist or remove these guys from your subs. There is a ton of indirect and subtle suggestions that the UK is now doing things wrong since it left the EU, for one- the snarky advertisements that were made by the dutch, when the UK was getting round to finalise brexit. The EU is more or less an enemy of the UK, but with this "my first news channel" Which unironically was when this channel started to kick off with the views. Left wing shit being left wing shit. Under the guise of that same male feminist simpy voice. With regards to "TLDR is a super small company, run by a few people with the help of some amazing volunteers. We are primarily fan sourced with most of our funding coming from donations and ad revenue. No shady corporations, no one telling us what to say. We can't wait to grow further and help more people get informed. Help support us by subscribing, following and backing on Patreon. Thanks!" - I'm going to hazard a guess that Mr Soros will be happy to fund this little raghole for the years to come. Just spreading the word now so something can be done about it.
Narrator: 120 miles. On screen: 102 miles. Thumbnail: 300 miles. Video: 30 miles. Come on guys, do you even watch these back before posting them?
Sorry complete typo on my part! Luckily we have a new animator/designer starting Monday 😅 - Jack
@@TLDRnews And Charing a toll instead of Charging.
Where was 120 miles?
U should time tag where the errors r.
rkan2 The Chinese viaduct.
That bridge is called a "Red Herring".
No
Try "white elephant".
Sgadan Dearg
A 20.3KM tidal dam between torr head and campbelltown could generate GW of tidal energy and has the benefit of being able to house both road and rail connections inside the top of it which would run under the level of the sea allowing ships to pass overhead. The only issue is connecting it to infrastructure on either end.
Could he start by filling in the potholes in the roads on land?
Well that’s up to your local MP not mr Johnson
You should fund your NHS instead.
That will be gone in much less than ten year :(
If only
It's not either/or.
"You"
So, who are you then?
@@yamyam2987 Not you, clearly.
I can already smell the deficit from a light year away
Let's see if Boris can build his bridge before the two irelands reunite and Scotland becomes an independent nation.
Miniman1344 How do you know that’s a certainty?
It would be funny if when the bridge finally opens its commonly known as the Sturgeon Bridge and used as a symbol of the unity of the newly founded Celtic union of a united Ireland and independent Scotland :p
@@WhichDoctor1 independent Scotland is by far the worst idea I have heard of from politicians in a while
@@cargillmonteque2311 How so?
@wildsurfer12
If Boris can't secure an FTA with the EU by the end of the year (which, if you look at both sides red lines, is almost a certainty), there will have to be a hard border somewhere: either on ireland on in the Irish sea. Nevertheless, it will likely see the two irelands making the decision to reunite as either one of these outcomes would ruin the Northern Irish Economy. Furthermore, if Scotland doesn't get its second referendum, it might choose to leave by force
Build the NHS. And we will be fit enough to swim across 😃
Totally the wrong way around. If people collectively took more responsibility for health, fitness, wellbeing then the burden on the NHS would be much lower. :)
Yeah it’s not the governments fault we play a part in the nhs’ struggle
ukballyhoo healthy food simply isn’t available to everyone
@@evaahh9584 Huh? Diabetes and overweight? Which is cheaper in Tesco: sugary processed snacks or broccoli?
ukballyhoo fast food is.
First things First: Technically, there is not a snowball's chance in hell of a bridge being built.
Given the length, depth of water, currents, winds, it is absolutely impossible to build the bridge. There is no question about this. There is no bridge anywhere in the world which comes close to being comparable.
Therefore, the proposal can only be 100% political or for the benefit of the companies which could make millions from consultancy.
How about the bridge conecting Beijin to Shanghai or Paris to London?
Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it.
@TheDublinReaper Really, a bridge more than 30 miles long in Scotland.
@@danielwhyatt3278 As a Fellow of the Institution of Civil Engineers I think I am qualified to talk about bridges. Are you?
I think it's a great idea. Then when N Ireland and Scotland leave the UK we'll get a free bridge off him. Sound.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
You realize it's a stunt to keep in northern Ireland right ?
Nah you probably do.
Oh, another joke comment 😂😂😂
If it's within the next 15 years or so years you'll get a half built bridge, have to delay independence.
@ImOld Gregg at least the union exists, not an imagination just like the "independence" they say
BJ wants too build a bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland when he failed to build a bridge between London and erm... London!
...and doesn't see the value in building a bridge between England and Scotland.
@@Ocrilat England & Scotland have a land border and don't really need a bridge
@@allanpurslow7106 Lol I meant metaphorically, with the Independence movement and his refusal to allow another vote.
You honestly thought I meant that literally? That's hysterical...you made my day.
Well he didnt though did he - he was asked if he would consider a bridge and to keep the peace he said it was interesting.
I half expected Bo Jo to light a cigar using a bunch of £50 notes at the end of that.
This is BRILLIANT!
1 Boris approves the bridge, London pays for it.
2. When it’ finished, it will connect the Republic of Scotland to the Republic of Ireland.
3. The bridge will be toll free for all EU licence-plated vehicles.
4. It will be named the BJ bridge
5. Saint Cameron will be appointed the bridge patron.
Ireland - We're now connected to the EU!!
UK - *Leaves EU*
Ireland - :/
Northern Ireland - We're now connected to the UK!!
Scotland - *Leaves UK*
Northern Ireland - :/
Scotland - joins eu
Unified Ireland - we’re now connected to the EU
Having been a trawlerman in this area, the bridge would be closed most of the time during the winter, plus the Irish box is littered with munitions from the Second World War, these would need to be removed. As it stands the Irish box is one of the biggest marine life hotspots in Britain, because of the danger of said munitions. This area should be turned into a marine wildlife park? Plus the time it takes to build a bridge, who knows if we will still be using roads, what with flying vehicles etc, etc.
@@emmaisalone Half the fuckers on the road should not be permitted to drive. As hell would I give these morons a flying car. Can't wait for the robotic cars to go mainstream and then banning people from driving vehicles completely.
I just said this, I see it as complete lunacy.
@@georgejob2156 PR stunt!
This idea of the bridge reaches the levels of stupidity of our Italian politicians when they proposed a bridge over the Strait of Messina. You know, it's an earthquake zone...
Laughing in Japanese infrastructures.
@@ekx5120 the longest japanese bridge is 13km, less than half the length of the one proposed, also it's not over open sea or a munitions/nuclear waste dump
Considera che alcuni ponti giapponesi sono stati fatti in collaborazione con l'Italia. Noi siamo perfettamente in grado di fare ponti anti sismici
But the Irish Sea isn't an earthquake zone and ignoring the hyperbole in this video it's actually pretty damn shallow for a sea.
@@kwlkid85 Pretty damn shallow for a sea =/= Pretty damn shallow for bridge construction. That's all I'm saying.
have a look to norways: floting undersea-tunnel with only ankers on the see bed.
Norwegians are smart. Johnson is not.
That doesn't exist yet I thought.
@@ButchE30M3S14 do you think it would be Boris himself constructing the bridge?
Danu Miron No, but he makes the foolish decision to execute them. Dont these megalomaniac projects remind you of a certain guy over 70 years ago? Didn’t help him either.
Wikipedia: likely applications include fjords, deep, narrow sea channels, and deep lakes.
You're right the local road is terrible, the A77 only gets decent once it's closer to Glasgow. No dual carriageway bypassing Ayr and further south, single carriageway passing through a village with trucks struggling to get through Maybole.
As much as I despise Bojo, I actually quite like the idea on paper. BUT - £20 billion? So there are thousands of people on the streets, the NHS is crumbling and many people have suffered a lot due to the government-imposed austerity. The UK has a HUNDRED times more homeless people than Japan even though there are almost twice as many people there. And Johnson wants to spend at least £20 billion on a bridge no one needs (let's be real here: it might cost as much as £60 billion)? Has Bojo found the money tree Theresa May spoke about? That's not even stupid; that's completely insane and only a complete lunatic could support this.
We can't pay for the NHS and the EU but we will charge 4000 pounds each to the average household in order to make this totally pointless thing
Thanks for another interesting and informative video. For future reference "Coxwain" is pronounced "Cox'n" similar to "Boatswain" being pronounced Bo'sun". Just thought you'd like to know.
Guys you gotta watch your spelling on those slides! You are a really excellent channel, this is the only thing letting you down and it's so noticeable
Just like The Guardian used to be, except with TDLR News the print ink doesn't come off. :-)
jez lawrence Gotta ?
@@simes2002 slang is not mis-spelling, unless it's mis-spelled.. and that's how you spell gotta. Also, I'm not the semi-pro news channel here, my personal standards aren't the issue ;)
Why is this being branded as "Johnston's" idea. There has been talk about this for years, and years.
Because only Johnson is crazy enough to push the damn idea into realization.
Setting aside the "should they?" part, I got to thinking, what if they used decommissioned oil rigs? Like those float around and can reach depths of hundreds of meters, right? So why not take some that are retired by the fossil fuel industry, float them to locations along the route, lock them in place, then start pumping loose rock and concrete around them to make essentially "islands." The frame of the rigs would not be structural by the end of the process, they would just be there to give the stonework someplace to stay while under construction. I imagine they could use this method to create very stable pylons, if not at every point of the bridge's support, at least every 3-2 of them to give the rest more stability, similar to natural islands.
Tim Ogul look Tim put the bloody Whisky down its time for bed pal , Submarine movements and decomposing munitions might get in the way
Surely something more like the Eurotunnel would make more sense. Also the idea of 'Symbolism' is pretty foolish.
The Irish and Scots are not going to feel closer to the union they're going to feel closer to their common Celtic history. Dividing the UK even more. But hey if the English wanna build a bridge connecting them I'm all for it. Free bridge for the EU in 5-10 years.
I wouldnt dig a tunnel anywhere near that nuclear and ammo dump x) and even if it was dug i would not take it lmao
I'm Dutch, so I say: build it! How hard can it be to build a bit of infrastructure in the sea?
Je zou bijna denken waarom niet een dijk zoals de afsluitdijk, ongeveer net zo lang ;).
We're British, you're overestimating us.
@@nninjastrike2127 well obviously you'd come to a Dutch company if you want to build infrastructure in the sea. Even now after Brexit we can still trade together.
@@XEinstein Our government would hire a Dutch company but argue over every little thing until it takes 5 times longer and 10 times more expensive, possibly reaching a "disagreement" halfway through the build and the bureaucracy involved with finding a new company would add AT LEAST 5 years.
Cause it’s a waste of money and they haven’t even consulted Scot Gov about it
Given the current political climate this could be interpreted as the English paying to build a bridge connecting an independent Scotland and a united Ireland
Watching this after Corona is hilarious, we've no money left😭
U lot are in a recession now
wtf AFTER Corona? dude second wave and winter is coming (love that got phrase in the context)
I’m guessing Johnson is going to build that bridge as an attempt to reinforce the Union, even though Scottish independence & Irish unification are becoming increasingly appealing.
If such events take place, Johnson essentially given Scotland & Ireland a free leavers’ gift.
2 billion and
The investment returns of of “say” £2 billion would generate enough cash to build new ports, buy new ferries and run them 24 hours a day for free forever. Im with Nicola Sturgeon ... this is just a distraction.
Actually, if port capacity is limited then you have a good point. If true of another comment I read, that there is plenty of capacity, we wont even need new ports.
Says Charing a toll instead of Charging. Just a heads up!
3:38 Ammunition + Nuclear Waste.
What could possibly go wrong?
Edit:
1 million tonnes of ammunition.
Several million tonnes of nuclear waste.
What's worse is the munitions are moved about by rough seas and bombs, etc. wash up on local beaches every year. It would be impossible to identify where everything dumped is these days.
@Mycelwhy were they dumping them in the first place?
Shouldn't the UK gov. try to clean the mess.
@bucketsandshims Shipping needs to go through as well. The bridge will have to be tall enough for it too.
Odd that the nuclear waste and unwanted munitions ended up between Scotland and Northern Ireland don't you think.
The location of the bridge needs more work. A longer bridge with good connections to the existing infrastructure will provide more benefit than a shorter bridge to nowhere.
I've been wondering a few times if a bridge or tunnel between Wales and Ireland would have been possible. Say Holyhead to Bray or Sutton. The seas are much more shallow (only about 100m instead of >150m) and it would be a much faster connection between major population centers (Dublin to Liverpool/Manchester). It is a longer tunnel and would most likely be more expensive, but it would have a bigger economic impact, especially if also a rail connection is made in the same tunnel. Unfortunately due to Brexit this won't happen until the UK join's the EU again.
True Dublin not far from Wales
The purpose of Johnson’s bridge is to link the UK to Northern Ireland being part of the UK and a symbol of solidarity, a bridge from Wales to Southern Ireland would not serve that purpose.
@@kriss0214 It wouldn't serve the same purpose, I'm aware of that. However, in terms of economic impact a bridge between Scotland and Northern-Ireland is much less attractive than a bridge between Wales and Ireland.
I didn't mention it as an alternative to the proposed bridge, but just as a project I have given thought that also crosses the Irish Sea.
An ideal high speed line would be Dublin - Rhyl - Liverpool - Manchester - Leeds. Possibly a branch to Sheffield and Hull. I disagree with the UK joining the EU again. The Channel Tunnel will not close any time soon and Switzerland, a non-EU member, has world class connections to Italy, Germany and France. I would like the ROI to complete the upgrades to their network. Especially a Cork - Dublin - Belfast high speed connection.
@@xavierdarche4822 Fun fact : 70% of all Irish cargo to the EU goes thru the UK via freight trucks and haulage.
Yes £20billion is most definitely a "conservative" estimate...
Looks at what happened to the HS2 estimate its gone well out of control
Boris airport, the garden bridge, the bendy buses, brexit, the water canons, the cable car and now this. It's one bad idea after another for Alexander Boris Johnson.
Can we just please see the back of that idiotic Fantasist Johnson. I live in London and pay a huge amount of council tax. That stupid proposal has cost Londoners £50,000,000
The thing is, if the UK was part of the EU, ironically the EU would help fund it (because it connects Ireland to the rest of Europe)
They wouldn’t
Staying in EU means UK need to fund infrastructure development and repay the debt of other underdeveloped countries, while UK get no fund from EU for its own infrastructure. Because UK, France, Germany are rich, they are the biggest budget contributors in the EU.
@@yipuhuang8523 equity not equality
@@yipuhuang8523 I think you misunderstood my comment, I was talking about this particular project, not the UK as a whole. The EU funds construction projects across the whole of the union, it's that more underdeveloped regions receive more funding. This particular project would certainly get at least a few billion in EU funding. You can see the "Project part funded by the European Union" plaques all over the continent, especially in countries like Poland which have been rapidly constructing infrastructure over the past decade, helped partly financed by the EU.
As an American, I thought only the US Military would dump ammunition and nuclear waste. That being said WTF UK? You dump it in the middle of a shipping route and within 30 miles of civilization?
I live near STRANRAER, the nearest large town to Portpatrick. The nearest motorway to Stranraer is the M6. The main road linking the M6 to Stranraer is the A75, which joins the M6 at Gretna Green. Stranraer to Gretna (and the M6) is about ONE HUNDRED miles (about 2 hours) drive. For almost all of it's length it is SINGLE CARRIAGEWAY (one each way), and passes directly through 3 villages towards Dumfries. Since the railway was axed by Beeching decades ago, this is the only traffic route from Stranraer (and from ALL the ferry traffic from NI / Ireland) to get on to the motorway network. To that you need to factor in the 6 or 7 miles of country lanes to get to Port Partick, from Stranraer, before you'd get to the Boris Bridge. ALL THIS would need, and currently DOES NEED to be upgraded to decent Dual Carriageway standard a the the very least before anyone can even THINK about spending 20-30-40-50bn£ on a bridge! The speed limit for lorries on most of the A75 currently is only 40mph! and it's single carriageway! Let alone putting BACK the railway link from the main network in Dumfries. There is a line going up to Glasgow, but if you need to get to Dumfries on the train you have to go to Glasgow (north, 3 hours), change, then go to Edinburgh (east 1 hour), change, then you can go south again to finally get to Dumfries in about another 2 hours. A round trip of about 6 hours. I know, I've done it!
So given the, what, 20bn£? it would take to dual the A75, another 20bn£? to put the railway back, which people here are screaming for right now, add to that the 20-50bn£? that it would cost for the bridge itself, it ain't NEVER gonna fly! It would cost as much as HS2! And that's just on the island of Britain. the Irish side would be additional. Having said all that WE NEED the A75 to be dualled NOW! AND the railway put back!
A bridge to France is a better idea.
Then Brexiteers can find work there.
there is already a tunnel to France.
@@scully0105 & even if it did come to a crossing, a tunnel for train links (as well as cars) would be better off than a standing bridge in gale winds
Dumping nuclear waste along with munitions, hhmmm, now that's a winning combination.
Build the bridge. A united Ireland and an independent Scotland would benefit greatly from it. Cheers!
@Aaron Cassidy then again if that happens we’ve got the biggest demolition project. Would be spectacular to watch
@@machinegunnasty1124 Not your bridge. Our bridge.
Scotland would wither away and die without the rest of the uk
@@harry793 Look at Ireland. Less oil. Thriving within the EU.
@@AaronJCassidy the funny thing about that is its been proven that scotland can thrive being independent even if they had no oil. Oil is just basically a bonus.
Technically Lake Pontchartrain is a brackish estuary since it is partially connected to the ocean and I am now realizing that this is perhaps the most pedantic comment ever.
Why dont we use great big boats that people can drive the cars on to and then use the boat to make the crossing?
It’s doable but not economic. You’re not connecting two large and major population centres
Scrap HS2.
Scrap this "old way of thinking" bridge.
Invest in a next generation national Hyperloop system connecting the entire UK with 5 hubs. London, Manchester, Cardiff, Edingurgh and Belfast.
You wouldn't have the wind problem across the sea because it's all contained in a tunnel.
You'd be able to get to and from any capital and connect the union in an unrivaled way,
Better for the environment.
Goods imported through Northern Ireland can be shipped straight to the capitals.
Faster than HS2.
Probably cheaper in the long run because the economic advantage of connecting us all will help pay for the cost.
Puts our world renowned engineers and companies to work, empolys lots of local labour.
Become a true world leader in environmental rapid transportation.
Envy of the world.
There, I've fixed everything, now go and make it happen because the government wont listen to a pleb like me making a comment on TH-cam.
Yeah, "challenging" is the word..." impossible" or "unnecessary" does sound way better.
Impossible and unnecessary? If this was any other country it would have been built decades ago.
@@yoironfistbro8128 Sure... but they didn't..
If you believe Brexit will be successful, I’ve got a bridge to sell you! 🤣
Brilliant haha
The EU will die with its responsibles. We will not be the hostages, subjects of this hostile institution pretending to be a union.
As a Belgian.
As much as I hate this union I do think that a bridge between Northern Ireland and Scotland would be beneficial for both nations (Ireland and UK) and would make it easier for Scotland to branch out after Independence
But Portpatrick to Larne? Really?
Everyone’s quick to criticise Johnson or compare him to Trump in some form. But, despite how expensive this may be, it’s undoubtedly a good idea. If you criticise someone for everything they do wrong, you should accept when they do something right.
Not if you are a Corbyn or EU supporter.
Even if the electorate backs you, you are still 'wrong' in their eyes.
Has anyone calculated what level of free or subsidised ferry service you could provide with the money saved by not building this bridge?
In view that the bridge could potentially last a long time, a quick estimate is a little over £100 off a ticket assuming that everyone is just a person, irrelevant of freight etc
Why not make it a tunnel? To take high speed rail across the whole British isles? It wouldn't be closed every winter at least.
160 / 300 meters deep, more expensive, more time consuming, and maybe difficult terrain might be good explanations. Also, not as fun as a useless piece of public budget thrown at nothing? :/
Under the nuclear waste you mean?
You can't gawk at a tunnel - Boris can't overcompensate with a tunnel. He needs big, long erections to make him feel secure.
Funding the NHS: *Nah*
Building a new bridge: *Yeah*
The NHS is funded.
the NHS gets literally trillions poured into it
Sounds somewhat unfeasible but actually quite a nice idea. The UK, currently, really lacks big infrastructure projects (including high speed rail, big tunnels/bridges etc). I wonder if a combination of a tunnel & a bridge could work? Something like the Øresund Bridge from Denmark - Sweden.
Someone with the right attitude finally.
Just rebuild the line to Stranraer from Dumfries via Castle Douglas and Newton Stewart. Build a gert big container terminal at Stranraer too.
Scotland and Northern Ireland both have a large proportion of the population wanting independence from the UK. By the time this bridge is built the UK might have split up.
If it ends up that England paids for a bridge to connect an independent Scotland to a reunified Ireland then I've got no complaints about that.
Want to bet on your comment? 😂😂
Here's the thing, a lot of people on this thread are making the same observation, and they're all missing their own hypocrisy.
"This bridge has no compelling economic case. It's just very expensive symbolism (the Union) that isn't worth paying for."
"Oh hang on, it might turn out that it comes to symbolise something I support (Scotland & NI outside the Union). Oh, well, in that case it's money well spent! A thousand pounds from every taxpayer is an exquisite use of public resources if it ends up making Boris Johnson look silly!"
There are many people who are complaining that it's just symbolism and we shouldn't be wasting the money. But it's not the money they really object to, it's the symbol. It turns out if you spend exactly the same amount of money on a white elephant with the *right* *kind* of symbolism, it's no longer a waste of money.
To me, this is the most compelling case against it actually. The project is essentially a multi-million dollar stimulus to a grander culture war, where on both sides the value lies less in any tangible economics than in the potential to annoy their political opponents. And as someone who values political harmony and civility, I guess that makes it a no from me, regardless of who ends up on the winning side. Remember, the losers had to pay for that bridge, too. It would be the world's most expensive grievance factory.
Trump will get the mexicans to pay for this bridge 😂😂
Given there still isn't a motorway connecting Belfast and Derry/Londonderry the two main centres of population in N Ireland, this seems fanciful, and that's being kind about it. You can be sure, like other large infrastructure projects this size, it would end up costing 2 or 3 times those estimates and that is money that will not be spent elsewhere, much of it in N Ireland, which already has much of the greatest need in the UK. Even were it built, it will close every time the weather is very poor, so it offers no serious advantage over the present pretty good system of ferries. They represent a lot of investment too. Perhalps their operators will have to be compensated also? Another expense.
This bridge would make hs2 look like a trip to the supermarket.
Not really. A trip to the supermarket isn't an extremely expensive waste of time.
If Scotland gets independence & Ireland has a border poll in the next decade or two then this would be a hilarious gift from England for two countries that got away from them
A bridge with foundations made of nuclear waste and bombs. Sounds great.
Trippy McHippy IT will have bombs under it and bombs on it
I am sure there is EU funding for such projects.- 🤔 wait....
The EU doesn't have any money. Their hugely bureaucratic "grants" are merely taxpayer money from the minority number of sovereign states who are net contributors - UK included - partially redistributed after charging for the appalling Brussels to Strasbourg to Brussels shuttle, and several other layers of EU bureaucracy are satisfied.
@@briancraven8906 UK's government also has no money - it's taxpayers' money.
@@krzysztoftryka399 Difference is UK Govt spends vast majority of UK taxes here in the UK; and that will now be quite a bit more from 2021! ;o)
@@briancraven8906 why wait 2021, start now. Brexit is done, why wait?
@@um02122 Because UK is tied to EU rules until 31str Dec 2020!
Any chance they can sort out the potholes all over the place first???
A10 road to Cambridge is riddled with them.
ie the "Murderhole" road not far from Coleraine?
Funny you didn't mention Sinn Fein or the Republic at; I have serious doubts that Irish nationalists will be thrilled at the prospect of a British prestige project of this sort, I'm reminded of the lyrics sung by the dubliners:
' The sea, oh the sea is the gradh geal mo croide
Long may it stay between England and me
It's a sure guarantee that some hour we'll be free
Oh, thank God we're surrounded by water.
Build the bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland and then have Scotland become a fully independent country and NI join Ireland with all in the EU. That sounds like the best signal of unity. England, Wales and London can join too.
Frankly I believe Boris (and by extension all Tories) about as far as I can throw him. He's all mouth, no trousers.
Duncan Brown no he's not ,he has very little mouth and big trousers,
If they have £20 billon to spare, put it in something useful, like the NHS!
The money black hole?
The NHS already has about 40 million pound in Donations from Sir Tom and other old people doing charity walks during lock down, now where the heck has that gone.
No point, I don’t think a United ireland will want any link to Britain when we get independence long before 2035
Pat O'fhinighan United ireland or not I’d love to see it built.
Yea. We will take the whole of Ireland back. We should not built it.
TheTH-camGuy ni is very much a part of the uk. So why not. Nothing is thought of spending billions in London on transport so why not the north and ni too.
A subsidised ferry route would make more sense .How many free crossings could be given out with the billions this is going to cost!
Goodness, what next? A tunnel under the English Channel? Ridiculous idea. They'll be considering building huge oil rigs in the North Sea next, one of the most inhospitable environments on the planet.