Very nice Noel that's exactly the type of review this page needed! Thanks for accessing my request! It would be awsome to make footages of a wave ridden with the same board but with different fins in order to visualize exactly how it improves or changes the way the board reacts! Thanks and keep ripping!
Another great piece, but if I may shift subject a bit; your surfing has always been strong and punchy but I'm struck by how smooth you're getting: economy of body movement, flow, seamless from one maneuver to the next, yet rad. Shows the time you put in and maturity. Pretty amazing, considering how you're always changing boards and fins. Goes to show that there's always a way to advance in surfing. Same goes for the show itself.. you guys all deserve mucho credit and thanks.
David Gough WOW cheers on the excellent comments. I have really been working on the things in my surfing that you mentioned. Stoked to hear feedback on my progress... I am always working on my surfing and transportation by from board to board can be a bit difficult at times but it’s all worth it.
Great job Noel, this is right up my alley. This past year has been the hardest for me to figure out fin wise with all the new templates and constructions. Thanks for all your input and personal responses, I appreciate it...cheers.
Great video Noel as always. I’m the seaside at 5’9” 37lt but I am 6’4” 185pounds and with the Rasta quad set which is just epic board turns on a dime very skatey able to go vertical lots of fun. Inside foil tech is the go to for me when it comes to quad sets
Hi Noel, when you referred to the pivot keel quad for the seaside, was this in reference to the machado quad keels? Would they be considered upright or raked?
Great timing!! Took me ages to get to sleep last night because I was thinking of what fins to buy for my new phantom. I’ll be hanging for the next reviews
very insteresting as usual noel, could you speak about combination of medium and large fins in the same setup ;) and large or medium fins depending on the conditions . for exemple i figured out on my hypto like i like medium fins instead of large (pintail hold), i notice as well that you can get an avantage in paddling when the wave are weak with smaller fins, so im mixing them to conserve as much advantage i can. Another good subjet is the fins foils and the feeling you have gripping the wave on each pump. You could speak as well about the flex or some flex pattern ( fcs say for exemple that gm got a different flex pattern than the regular performer fin. I noticed too on fcs fins there foil on all kind of major template , comparing for exemple sa medium (carver template with cambered foil) to the carver medium (flat foil) and so on. Thanks in advance.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That's rad. If you ever need any free pointers in the audio dept. definitely let me know! I'm a union sound person. I'd love to help.
Hi Noel. So much knowledge in these videos. What fins would you choose between fcs2 Machado quad or Matt Biolos split keel? Which would be the most versatile for a summer groveler setup?
I like the Machado Quad better. If you want more performance you will love my Quad set. Check them out here. surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
One quick question Noel, I`m used to 26 liters boards, more or less, but just recently bought a board, a firewire greedy beaver with almost 30 liters of volume. Usually i use Fcs Medium, do you think it`s best for me to use a large fcs fin on this board? I feel the board lacks a bit of pivot in quick transitions from the base of the wave to the lip. Thank you for any kind of onformations that you can provide me. Keep up with the good work. Once again, amazing video. Cheers from Portugal ;)
Ricardo Laranjeira Yes... try a Large Pivot fin... something more upright to get in the pocket faster. If that doesn’t work... it’s too much float. Dump it and get a shorter one with roughly 27-28 liters.
Hi Noel. What an excellent explanation mate. Just a quick one about my new fish surfboard very similar to a 5.8 seaside with 35 litres... I'm 90 kilos and I'm used to ride a set of large carvers fcs 2 with my performance daily surfboard. Today I've tried my new quad fish using futures large at front and small rears and felt a bit hard to do turns although I was able to get a very nice speed down the line. My question is what sets of fins would you recommend to allow more easier turns? Perhaps medium at front and small rears instead? Really appreciate it!
amazing video , just made a replica of the seaside its a 5.5 but I cant find the right fins here in brazil . would you consider the seasides original fins a pivot fin ? thank for the amazing video have a great one !!
Herald Jessy Yes they are a Pivot Keel... I suggest a Pivot fin if want more performance in the pocket. Maybe go With a Neutral fin when you want to carve a bit more.
Excellent stuff thank you. Ive been surfing 30yrs and this fin stuff can be insanely confusing and frustrating, this helps. I honestly have to wonder how big of a difference in board feel and perfomance each fin would make, i obviously cant afford to try all these different ones so ANY kind of help is much appreciated. Something i found interesting is Conner Coffin uses the same fin on all his boards, wonder if any other pros do the same. Thats how it used to be.
D F I think most pros do use the same fins in most of their boards. They ride HPSB most of the time and most of the changes they make are very subtle... mostly slight board dimension changes. I think Kelly messes with fins a bit... probably more than most pros. I think he has a Pivot Fin, Neutral, and I am sure he has a Raked set too.
Great great review Noel, one of my favorite so far. I have a question for you. What's the main difference between a daily and a groveler board? Thanks and keep it up!
charleschannel For me it’s a few things... a Groveler is usually shorter in length, wider, thicker, and pretty low rocker. Keeps the board planning fast through flat mushy waves. A Daily Driver is more of a Step Down from a HPSB for me. Usually they still have that HPSB outline but a lot less rocker and sometimes they are a little wider but thickness is somewhat the same as your HPSB.
Hi Noel, which category would you put the Kolohe FCS fins in? I’m currently riding Merrick Twin plus 1 on my Rocket Wide, but curious about a different feel. Thanks for another great review.
David Valdes The KA fins fall in the Control Series for FCS. They have a good amount of Rake and good release. A little more Rake compared to their Control Series like the Performers. FCS has 4 Categories... Speed, Balance, Control, Power. The KA fins fall in the Control section...
Noel, just a side question, Rusty's Blade board, like the Sci Fi, has channels. could you possibly give a quick explanation of why channels are used on some boards, what's there purpose and why they aren't used that often? thank you
scott cuttre Channels are often used to channel water for extra thrust or speed. I also find that some can also give you a little more traction too. I think Shapers use channels on certain models for that little extra speed or spark that enhances that certain design. I notice a little more speed on boards with channels or even on boards with extreme Concaves. Some down side to channels... they can catch a little or in transitions on turns. Finding the right fin for a board with channels can fix that though.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel really appreciate it. I'm giving the rusty blade a serious look even though you can't do a review any insight you can shed on that board would help. the blade looks really interesting 80's outline, I've never really like grovelers so this might be a good fit. another quick question: why don't shapers use beak noses anymore? I'm not sure why they did in the first place but I have a board with one and for some reason, I liked it but couldn't say why. thanks again maybe you could give a glace at Blade def an interesting idea to bring it back. Thanks, Noel, again much appreciated
The P-series are just a rebranded WCT fin template. I had the futures WCT fins (exact same size/template as P-6) and hated them...zero drive and couldnt generate any speed with them! Don't know if the WCT were just too small for me (I'm 5'11/165lbs), but I'm wondering if the larger P-8 will solve this problem(?)
The WCT fins felt the exact same way for me too… loose and no drive. The P8 offers more drive and feels better. My signature Pivot Fins are mental… nothing on the market like them. Excellent pivot with maximum drive for a pivot template. Check them out here…. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/all/products/momentum-series-ms-p-thruster-pivot-template
Bought the P8 (Alpha construction) on black Friday. Strange how P8 and P6 have a practically undetectable size difference, yet the P8 actually give me plenty of drive and turn quite sharp, as advertised. Love them in small waves.
Great vid Noel! Good point on the same area and rake variations. And in honeycomb. Comparing this medium templates: AM1, R6, JJF Medium, and F6, what’s the order from most to least rake?
JorgeAndresCoppiano. Good question.. I have not compared the AM1 to the R6 in Rake yet but the AM1 might have a narrower tip so it will offer a little more release. The F6 and JJF are both Neutral but not sure which one is more upright yet. The JJF doesn’t come in Honeycomb, just Alpha and Tech Flex. The Alpha has a similar ride number but they do feel a little different under foot. The Honeycomb is a bit more consistent and predictable.
Thanks Noel, I'm picking up a 5"11" Baked Potato in helium Future fins. I'm 6'1" 205 pounds and getting up there in age and from your video here I think the Pivot P8 legacy up front is what I'll start with. My question is what would you recommend for the additional fins? Ride it as a thruster with the supplied third fin in the set? Ride it as a quad and what would you suggest for rear fins? Thanks for your time! Pat
Pat Tierney Yes the P8 sounds good as Thruster and good Large side fins for the Quad set up. I recommend the HS 4.20 Quad rears to keep that wide loose and easy to turn quickly.
hi Noel, I'm a big fan of the show!! And I wanted to ask you about you're thoughts on fin selection. I'm 5'7, about 160 lbs and currently on the 5'8 pyzel nugget with the fcs performer pc(medium). Since that's my only board I wanna make it work in the biggest wave-range possible. So my thought's were to get a set that's more raked then the performers(maybe even size large?) to tighten up the board in bigger waves. In addition to that what are your thoughts on 2+1 fins like the fcs mark richards? I thought about those to be able to generate my own speed just have more fun in tiny conditions where the performers are too tight and taking out the center fin too loose... I'd love to hear your opinion about that! Cheers Nic
Noel, Dr. Salas haha. I bought 2 boards based off your show! Loving both of them! Can I ask, Which board is your GO TO groveler??? I’m looking to add to my 3 board quiver. If you had to choose, which Groveler are you taking out day to day? Cheers 🤙🏻
Hey Noel, big fan. You’ve cost me a lot of money these past few years but thank you and keep them coming. I just picked up a 5’5 Seaside (I’m 5’9, 165lbs, Int/Adv) was just curious if you’ve ever tried 1.) HS1+HS rears 2.) AM2 Front + HS rears in the Seaside?
noel i got a neckbeard 2 and got jjf alpha medium fins. i was wanting to get the f8 alphas. the waves here in the winter are usually 6-10 ft fat and slopey. just wanted your thoughts on fins you think would work well.
Great info!! Hopefully, this comment will get to you, Noel. Have you gotten your hands on a Glazer yet?? One of my all-time favorite boards, hands down! I've started playing with some different fins. I initially used the Legacy F-6's. I rode the board in head high to o'head on set with the orginal JJF tech-flex (large) and it held really well! I'm thinking of getting a twin plus 1 set for some fun when it's really small. Either the Machado's or Rasta... Curious how you think the board would go as a twin plus 1, with that deep double concave out the tail?
Christian Heim I have not tried the Glazer yet... waiting for boards now. It might go good with Twin + Trailer. Get it going and let me know. It will help me in my review process. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews I certainly will! I’m going to grab a set today. Looks like I’ll have a little wave that should be perfect to give the set up a go. Thanks for getting back to me! Keep up the great work! Super beneficial info on all of your vids.. greatly appreciated
Surf n Show Reviews Hi Noel, hope all is well! I’m just getting back to you with some feedback on the glazer w/ a twin plus trailer set up. I picked up the Rasta fins and gave them a go. It was a pretty fun set up. However, today I took out the trailer and replaced it with one of those little tmf fins by future. I swear this set up turned what would be a sub par day, in to a super fun one! You would probably know better than me, but I feel the round sorta pulled in tail, gives the board some hold so a twinny set up keeps it really loose and fun. Kinda the best of both worlds in small surf. Still stoked on the board and having fun experimenting with different fin set ups. Looking in to getting your keels as my next fin investment.
Hey Noel, I have a 5’10” puddle fish and surf mostly mushy weak waves under chest high. I don’t ride the puddle fish much because I can’t find a fin set that feels right. I normally just grab my 5’7” baked potato with fcs tq aqua line quad set even though they are little undersized with my weight 175lbs, they feel great with that board. I can throw the board around with eaze. I tried the future lost seaworthy split keel quads in my puddle fish and hated it, the board almost felt un-surfable. Anyways I was hoping you could recommend some future quads that might work well with my puddle fish. Thanks!
The P8’s are more pivotal... they will get you in lip a bit quicker and offer sharper turns. I believe the Machado Quads will offer more drive through turns.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks, I realized after posting this that the legacy series mostly applies to thrusters. With a slightly over-volumed, longer board that is set-up as a quad - what do recommend that pivots? It seems like most of the pivot quads in Futures are XL, there must be a reason for that? Thanks again! cheers!
@@jamiemacmahan3417 I like the idea of running more performance fins. I suggest you check out my 5 fin set. Check those out here.... www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set I also suggest the Pyzel 5 fin set too.
Hey Noel, any word on the Sci Fi review? Also, will you be reviewing Rusty's The Blade? I'm really excited about this board and starting to think this might be the board I've been searching for. I'm hoping they kept the beak nose but I'm not sure.
scott cuttre SciFi Review is nearly done... waves and weather has been an issue for the last month or so. Maybe a couple weeks or so before we launch it. The folks at Rusty are not keen on sending boards for review at this time. Hopefully in the near future this will change. Sorry
what is "pivot keel fins" for example thanks~ my sweet potato is a quad set but inspire of you i want to try a twin fin! but it has a why tail and very loose feeling so should i find a rake type twin fins to try?
I have regular shortboard 6’ thinner board. Had hard time catching fatter overhead waves. U think this would solve that problem? I also have retro fish 5’10”. Catches everything. U think groveler board would solve that problem?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 u think 5’5” seaside is too short for me? I’m 5’9” 155-160lb. My daily driver is 5’10” retro fish. Catch everything with that. Looking for groveler board second one. I also have 6’ high performance board but had little hard time catching fatter over size waves. U think this seaside would solve that issue
Hey Noel, just got myself a 6'6" pod mod I'm 220 pounds 6 foot 1. Currently using some cheap thrusters it came with and I'm thinking I might want to get a nice quad set to try out for a little more speed. More so interested just to feel the difference from the cheaper fins. I surf 2-5 foot waves on average and usually am shooting for speed to make sections. Any help would be awesome! Thanks, Ben
Noel I have a lost smooth operator 7' midlenghth. I am conflicted about how to set my fins up and the type. Thinking of fcs11 Mr twins with a trailer. Your thoughts?
Hi I have just bought a FW baked potato 5.1. With FCS 2's I am 64.5 kg. What quad/ split keel set ups would u recommend? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks P. S. Thoughts on the fcs Rob machado quad fin for this board?
Michael Short Seaside is fastest, PM has more pivot and performance compared to the Seaside, The RW out performs them both in the pocket but the Seaside and PM will grovel way better in 1-2’ surf.
Those two backside turns on the podmod were insane. I have the 5'3 seaside and it is extremely fast. I haven't ridden the other boards mentioned but I would guess that railwork is a bit better than seaside. I sometimes get hung up on my rails with the seaside. I find I have to keep a lot of back foot pressure and shift the board forwards under my center of gravity. Basically ride it off the tail. I have a puddle jumper round 5'4 and it feels more user friendly especially on rail. But the seaside is crazy fast.
Your videos are incredible. After discovering them I’m going to find it hard to buy a board that I haven’t seen you dissect. Have you ever ridden a Hypto Krypto?
Jeffrey Finnecy Yewww!!! Stoked you like our show. No, I have never ridden the Hypto Krypto. Check out our website and you will see all the Brands and Boards we have reviewed. Surfnshow.com
Very nice Noel that's exactly the type of review this page needed! Thanks for accessing my request! It would be awsome to make footages of a wave ridden with the same board but with different fins in order to visualize exactly how it improves or changes the way the board reacts! Thanks and keep ripping!
Love how you present the info, detailed, methodical and clear. Rewatching this video several times now
Another great piece, but if I may shift subject a bit; your surfing has always been strong and punchy but I'm struck by how smooth you're getting: economy of body movement, flow, seamless from one maneuver to the next, yet rad. Shows the time you put in and maturity. Pretty amazing, considering how you're always changing boards and fins. Goes to show that there's always a way to advance in surfing. Same goes for the show itself.. you guys all deserve mucho credit and thanks.
David Gough WOW cheers on the excellent comments. I have really been working on the things in my surfing that you mentioned. Stoked to hear feedback on my progress... I am always working on my surfing and transportation by from board to board can be a bit difficult at times but it’s all worth it.
SUPER CLEAR explanation. Best I think I’ve heard or seen before. Great work! Dude...the 4K camera in your studio is unbelievably clear and hi-def.
Dthraco Epic... stoked you liking the quality...
Great job Noel, this is right up my alley. This past year has been the hardest for me to figure out fin wise with all the new templates and constructions. Thanks for all your input and personal responses, I appreciate it...cheers.
Great video Noel as always. I’m the seaside at 5’9” 37lt but I am 6’4” 185pounds and with the Rasta quad set which is just epic board turns on a dime very skatey able to go vertical lots of fun. Inside foil tech is the go to for me when it comes to quad sets
The music in the beginning was rocking!!! Great show Noel!
Amazing review. Clear, concise and to the point. Excellent job and even better surfing. Keep it up!!!
Xisco Morey Serantes Cheers!!!
Hi Noel, when you referred to the pivot keel quad for the seaside, was this in reference to the machado quad keels? Would they be considered upright or raked?
Great timing!! Took me ages to get to sleep last night because I was thinking of what fins to buy for my new phantom.
I’ll be hanging for the next reviews
Great ! With episodes like this you're stepping uo another level. Clear explanation and matching real world video. Epic. thanx.
very insteresting as usual noel, could you speak about combination of medium and large fins in the same setup ;) and large or medium fins depending on the conditions . for exemple i figured out on my hypto like i like medium fins instead of large (pintail hold), i notice as well that you can get an avantage in paddling when the wave are weak with smaller fins, so im mixing them to conserve as much advantage i can. Another good subjet is the fins foils and the feeling you have gripping the wave on each pump. You could speak as well about the flex or some flex pattern ( fcs say for exemple that gm got a different flex pattern than the regular performer fin. I noticed too on fcs fins there foil on all kind of major template , comparing for exemple sa medium (carver template with cambered foil) to the carver medium (flat foil) and so on. Thanks in advance.
If I have a set of rasta quads and want a more playful set of fins, would you recommend the Machado seaside split keels or amk twin keels?
Noel!!!! Totally off topic but you've totally nailed audio. It sounds great now, and your production value raised a few clicks! Keep it up!
Hu Man Thanks for noticing... we’ve dropped a bunch of cash into upping the quality to our show. Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That's rad. If you ever need any free pointers in the audio dept. definitely let me know! I'm a union sound person. I'd love to help.
Hu Man Thank you!!!
Awesome.I can hold a board under my arm and have some idea how it's going to go yet I look at a fin and it's a complete guess
Another Great Video!!!
Good music, very good information, excellent surfing, Great review!
The Surf Station Yewwww! Cheers guys
Solid review Noel!
i posted a question about quads on another video and then this video popped up and answered it, lol. thanx!
Hi Noel. So much knowledge in these videos. What fins would you choose between fcs2 Machado quad or Matt Biolos split keel? Which would be the most versatile for a summer groveler setup?
I like the Machado Quad better. If you want more performance you will love my Quad set. Check them out here.
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
Thanks!!those look really good. I will figure out a way to get a set of those to Europe.
One quick question Noel, I`m used to 26 liters boards, more or less, but just recently bought a board, a firewire greedy beaver with almost 30 liters of volume. Usually i use Fcs Medium, do you think it`s best for me to use a large fcs fin on this board? I feel the board lacks a bit of pivot in quick transitions from the base of the wave to the lip. Thank you for any kind of onformations that you can provide me. Keep up with the good work. Once again, amazing video. Cheers from Portugal ;)
Ricardo Laranjeira Yes... try a Large Pivot fin... something more upright to get in the pocket faster. If that doesn’t work... it’s too much float. Dump it and get a shorter one with roughly 27-28 liters.
Great review! Really helpfull, learned a lot about fin choice.
Hey man, excellent video. Do you think you will ever do a video of your personal quiver?
Fausto Leto Maybe one day...
Good job dude, thanks again for the info
Hi Noel. What an excellent explanation mate. Just a quick one about my new fish surfboard very similar to a 5.8 seaside with 35 litres... I'm 90 kilos and I'm used to ride a set of large carvers fcs 2 with my performance daily surfboard. Today I've tried my new quad fish using futures large at front and small rears and felt a bit hard to do turns although I was able to get a very nice speed down the line. My question is what sets of fins would you recommend to allow more easier turns? Perhaps medium at front and small rears instead?
Really appreciate it!
Adriano Sopadeletras Large Reactors as Side fins, with Medium Reactor Quad Rears. The Large Reactor 5 fin set is what I would do...,
amazing video , just made a replica of the seaside its a 5.5 but I cant find the right fins here in brazil . would you consider the seasides original fins a pivot fin ? thank for the amazing video have a great one !!
Herald Jessy Yes they are a Pivot Keel... I suggest a Pivot fin if want more performance in the pocket. Maybe go With a Neutral fin when you want to carve a bit more.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you so much for the tips!! Keep up the good work this Chanel is amazing!!
nice info. I wonder if the neutral f8 and f5 is same as regular f8 and F5?
Thanks
Troy Robinson Not sure sorry
Excellent stuff thank you. Ive been surfing 30yrs and this fin stuff can be insanely confusing and frustrating, this helps. I honestly have to wonder how big of a difference in board feel and perfomance each fin would make, i obviously cant afford to try all these different ones so ANY kind of help is much appreciated. Something i found interesting is Conner Coffin uses the same fin on all his boards, wonder if any other pros do the same. Thats how it used to be.
D F I think most pros do use the same fins in most of their boards. They ride HPSB most of the time and most of the changes they make are very subtle... mostly slight board dimension changes.
I think Kelly messes with fins a bit... probably more than most pros. I think he has a Pivot Fin, Neutral, and I am sure he has a Raked set too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for all the info, really helps.
Great great review Noel, one of my favorite so far. I have a question for you.
What's the main difference between a daily and a groveler board?
Thanks and keep it up!
charleschannel For me it’s a few things... a Groveler is usually shorter in length, wider, thicker, and pretty low rocker. Keeps the board planning fast through flat mushy waves.
A Daily Driver is more of a Step Down from a HPSB for me. Usually they still have that HPSB outline but a lot less rocker and sometimes they are a little wider but thickness is somewhat the same as your HPSB.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel. My surfing has been improving since I subscribed to your channel. See you in the water
another epic one, thanks
Hi Noel, which category would you put the Kolohe FCS fins in? I’m currently riding Merrick Twin plus 1 on my Rocket Wide, but curious about a different feel. Thanks for another great review.
David Valdes The KA fins fall in the Control Series for FCS. They have a good amount of Rake and good release. A little more Rake compared to their Control Series like the Performers. FCS has 4 Categories... Speed, Balance, Control, Power. The KA fins fall in the Control section...
Noel, just a side question, Rusty's Blade board, like the Sci Fi, has channels. could you possibly give a quick explanation of why channels are used on some boards, what's there purpose and why they aren't used that often? thank you
scott cuttre Channels are often used to channel water for extra thrust or speed. I also find that some can also give you a little more traction too.
I think Shapers use channels on certain models for that little extra speed or spark that enhances that certain design. I notice a little more speed on boards with channels or even on boards with extreme Concaves. Some down side to channels... they can catch a little or in transitions on turns. Finding the right fin for a board with channels can fix that though.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel really appreciate it. I'm giving the rusty blade a serious look even though you can't do a review any insight you can shed on that board would help. the blade looks really interesting 80's outline, I've never really like grovelers so this might be a good fit. another quick question: why don't shapers use beak noses anymore? I'm not sure why they did in the first place but I have a board with one and for some reason, I liked it but couldn't say why. thanks again maybe you could give a glace at Blade def an interesting idea to bring it back. Thanks, Noel, again much appreciated
Noal dalas is the best thing that happened in the u tube.
The P-series are just a rebranded WCT fin template. I had the futures WCT fins (exact same size/template as P-6) and hated them...zero drive and couldnt generate any speed with them! Don't know if the WCT were just too small for me (I'm 5'11/165lbs), but I'm wondering if the larger P-8 will solve this problem(?)
The WCT fins felt the exact same way for me too… loose and no drive. The P8 offers more drive and feels better.
My signature Pivot Fins are mental… nothing on the market like them. Excellent pivot with maximum drive for a pivot template. Check them out here….
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/all/products/momentum-series-ms-p-thruster-pivot-template
Bought the P8 (Alpha construction) on black Friday. Strange how P8 and P6 have a practically undetectable size difference, yet the P8 actually give me plenty of drive and turn quite sharp, as advertised. Love them in small waves.
Great vid Noel! Good point on the same area and rake variations. And in honeycomb. Comparing this medium templates: AM1, R6, JJF Medium, and F6, what’s the order from most to least rake?
JorgeAndresCoppiano. Good question.. I have not compared the AM1 to the R6 in Rake yet but the AM1 might have a narrower tip so it will offer a little more release.
The F6 and JJF are both Neutral but not sure which one is more upright yet. The JJF doesn’t come in Honeycomb, just Alpha and Tech Flex. The Alpha has a similar ride number but they do feel a little different under foot. The Honeycomb is a bit more consistent and predictable.
Thanks Noel, I'm picking up a 5"11" Baked Potato in helium Future fins. I'm 6'1" 205 pounds and getting up there in age and from your video here I think the Pivot P8 legacy up front is what I'll start with. My question is what would you recommend for the additional fins? Ride it as a thruster with the supplied third fin in the set? Ride it as a quad and what would you suggest for rear fins? Thanks for your time! Pat
Pat Tierney Yes the P8 sounds good as Thruster and good Large side fins for the Quad set up. I recommend the HS 4.20 Quad rears to keep that wide loose and easy to turn quickly.
hi Noel, I'm a big fan of the show!!
And I wanted to ask you about you're thoughts on fin selection. I'm 5'7, about 160 lbs and currently on the 5'8 pyzel nugget with the fcs performer pc(medium). Since that's my only board I wanna make it work in the biggest wave-range possible. So my thought's were to get a set that's more raked then the performers(maybe even size large?) to tighten up the board in bigger waves. In addition to that what are your thoughts on 2+1 fins like the fcs mark richards? I thought about those to be able to generate my own speed just have more fun in tiny conditions where the performers are too tight and taking out the center fin too loose...
I'd love to hear your opinion about that!
Cheers Nic
Noel, Dr. Salas haha. I bought 2 boards based off your show! Loving both of them! Can I ask,
Which board is your GO TO groveler??? I’m looking to add to my 3 board quiver. If you had to choose, which Groveler are you taking out day to day?
Cheers 🤙🏻
Remington James Rocket Wide Performance Small Wave, Gremlin Groveler. Fish Seaside or Aipa Fish
Hey Noel, big fan. You’ve cost me a lot of money these past few years but thank you and keep them coming. I just picked up a 5’5 Seaside (I’m 5’9, 165lbs, Int/Adv) was just curious if you’ve ever tried 1.) HS1+HS rears 2.) AM2 Front + HS rears in the Seaside?
I ordered the Machado Quads but was just curious since I know you like the HS Quads in your small wave boards.
Kiley Hsu I have not tried that set up yet. I am sure they will good.
Sweet thanks for your feedback and all the great work.
noel i got a neckbeard 2 and got jjf alpha medium fins. i was wanting to get the f8 alphas. the waves here in the winter are usually 6-10 ft fat and slopey. just wanted your thoughts on fins you think would work well.
Yarai Mendez How is the NB2 going with the fins you’ve tried already?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 it is going good and feels good under my feet but sometimes it feels like its sliding to much on the tail.
Yarai Mendez What fins are you using and what size are they? How much do you weigh too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 jjf alpha mediums. i am 175
Yarai Mendez Put in a Large fin... something with a little more rake too. AM2
Great info!! Hopefully, this comment will get to you, Noel. Have you gotten your hands on a Glazer yet?? One of my all-time favorite boards, hands down! I've started playing with some different fins. I initially used the Legacy F-6's. I rode the board in head high to o'head on set with the orginal JJF tech-flex (large) and it held really well! I'm thinking of getting a twin plus 1 set for some fun when it's really small. Either the Machado's or Rasta... Curious how you think the board would go as a twin plus 1, with that deep double concave out the tail?
Christian Heim I have not tried the Glazer yet... waiting for boards now. It might go good with Twin + Trailer. Get it going and let me know. It will help me in my review process. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews I certainly will! I’m going to grab a set today. Looks like I’ll have a little wave that should be perfect to give the set up a go. Thanks for getting back to me! Keep up the great work! Super beneficial info on all of your vids.. greatly appreciated
Surf n Show Reviews Hi Noel, hope all is well! I’m just getting back to you with some feedback on the glazer w/ a twin plus trailer set up. I picked up the Rasta fins and gave them a go. It was a pretty fun set up. However, today I took out the trailer and replaced it with one of those little tmf fins by future. I swear this set up turned what would be a sub par day, in to a super fun one! You would probably know better than me, but I feel the round sorta pulled in tail, gives the board some hold so a twinny set up keeps it really loose and fun. Kinda the best of both worlds in small surf. Still stoked on the board and having fun experimenting with different fin set ups. Looking in to getting your keels as my next fin investment.
Christian Heim Excellent post... stoked to hear about your experimenting with the Glazer
Hey Noel, I have a 5’10” puddle fish and surf mostly mushy weak waves under chest high. I don’t ride the puddle fish much because I can’t find a fin set that feels right. I normally just grab my 5’7” baked potato with fcs tq aqua line quad set even though they are little undersized with my weight 175lbs, they feel great with that board. I can throw the board around with eaze. I tried the future lost seaworthy split keel quads in my puddle fish and hated it, the board almost felt un-surfable. Anyways I was hoping you could recommend some future quads that might work well with my puddle fish. Thanks!
Lynn George Get the Pyzel 5 fin set. It will go good
What size should I go with ? M or L
I like the board to be loose
Lynn George Medium is good for the board to be loose
Are you going to review the same with FCS.? Great Content Thanks.
joe Dirt Not at this time sorry
Hi Noel, what fins do you recommend for the Neckbeard 2 ? I just ordered one and will use it for medium size sectiony waves...Thank you
Rob Hoppe I would go with a Neutral fin like the F6.
Great video, this was outstanding - thank you! So how do the Machado quads compare to the P8s?
The P8’s are more pivotal... they will get you in lip a bit quicker and offer sharper turns. I believe the Machado Quads will offer more drive through turns.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks, I realized after posting this that the legacy series mostly applies to thrusters. With a slightly over-volumed, longer board that is set-up as a quad - what do recommend that pivots? It seems like most of the pivot quads in Futures are XL, there must be a reason for that? Thanks again! cheers!
@@jamiemacmahan3417 I like the idea of running more performance fins. I suggest you check out my 5 fin set. Check those out here....
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
I also suggest the Pyzel 5 fin set too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel! Watching more of your fin videos now!
Hey Noel, any word on the Sci Fi review? Also, will you be reviewing Rusty's The Blade? I'm really excited about this board and starting to think this might be the board I've been searching for. I'm hoping they kept the beak nose but I'm not sure.
scott cuttre SciFi Review is nearly done... waves and weather has been an issue for the last month or so. Maybe a couple weeks or so before we launch it.
The folks at Rusty are not keen on sending boards for review at this time. Hopefully in the near future this will change. Sorry
what is "pivot keel fins" for example thanks~ my sweet potato is a quad set but inspire of you i want to try a twin fin! but it has a why tail and very loose feeling so should i find a rake type twin fins to try?
Vincent Liu Yes a raked fin will tighten it up a bit.
I have regular shortboard 6’ thinner board. Had hard time catching fatter overhead waves. U think this would solve that problem? I also have retro fish 5’10”. Catches everything. U think groveler board would solve that problem?
Boards with less rocker will paddle faster and you will catch more waves. You can always go up a liter too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 any board u recommend
@@surfnshowreviews7777 u think 5’5” seaside is too short for me? I’m 5’9” 155-160lb. My daily driver is 5’10” retro fish. Catch everything with that. Looking for groveler board second one. I also have 6’ high performance board but had little hard time catching fatter over size waves. U think this seaside would solve that issue
Hey Noel, just got myself a 6'6" pod mod I'm 220 pounds 6 foot 1. Currently using some cheap thrusters it came with and I'm thinking I might want to get a nice quad set to try out for a little more speed. More so interested just to feel the difference from the cheaper fins. I surf 2-5 foot waves on average and usually am shooting for speed to make sections. Any help would be awesome!
Thanks,
Ben
Ben Carr Ben get yourself a five fin set of the Large Al Merrick fins in Honeycomb Construction or Tech Flex.
Noel I have a lost smooth operator 7' midlenghth. I am conflicted about how to set my fins up and the type.
Thinking of fcs11 Mr twins with a trailer. Your thoughts?
I say try the MR’s… I don’t ride Midlengths sorry
Noel, great show! One question. Can you share alternatives in FCS2? Especially a neutral or pivot style fin for grovellers like Lost HP puddle jumper.
Jeremy Kodomichalos I like the Reactors for the PJHP... size Large. For Neutral fins in FCSII I like the Performers. Cheers
Thanks Noel!
Hi I have just bought a FW baked potato 5.1. With FCS 2's I am 64.5 kg. What quad/ split keel set ups would u recommend? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
P. S. Thoughts on the fcs Rob machado quad fin for this board?
Stone Play I am not a fan or split Keels sorry...
Stone Play I would try a normal pivotal Quad set like the Reactors or HS1 Futures
Thanks. I will have a look. So ur not keen on the Rob machado seaside quad fins?
Stone Play The Machado fins are sick... most Split Keels don’t look like his. If you have the Machado’s give them a go...
Which fin set in the FCSII line would emulate the Pivots the best?
Onda Sports Reactors are sick
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks a lot Noel. I really like your reviews, but the best of all is your surfing, keep ripping man. Cheers!
Hi Noel. Which is better, seaside or pod mod
Sorry which is better. Rocket wide... Podmod.... Seaside
Michael Short Seaside is fastest, PM has more pivot and performance compared to the Seaside, The RW out performs them both in the pocket but the Seaside and PM will grovel way better in 1-2’ surf.
Those two backside turns on the podmod were insane. I have the 5'3 seaside and it is extremely fast. I haven't ridden the other boards mentioned but I would guess that railwork is a bit better than seaside. I sometimes get hung up on my rails with the seaside. I find I have to keep a lot of back foot pressure and shift the board forwards under my center of gravity. Basically ride it off the tail. I have a puddle jumper round 5'4 and it feels more user friendly especially on rail. But the seaside is crazy fast.
Matt Clem The Pod Mod our performs the Seaside in the pocket but the Seaside is faster. Both boards are insane and surf completely different.
Noah, Seaside at 5'2" is the smallest offered. I'm 5'6" 130, would this be too boaty?
monkeypawism Maybe... it will be if your advanced. Intermediate you might be okay in small mushy waves
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks, high intermediate, fish advanced :) Dang, my go fish is 5'1" 25.5 and it's pretty doable.
Hello noel. Do you think i Can use my reactor on a seaside Please ??
Yes... give them a try before you out and spend money.
Thanks Noel . My english IS poor but your advice IS precious... I currently have a pjhp with reactor... I gonna wait for a New toy...
Do you see the Machado Quad as a good fin choice for a Sweet Potato ?
Not really. I say try a Quad set that’s more upright
Hi Noel, adding on this question do you prefer the pivot quads or the machado quads in the seaside ?
Noel im 5”6 and 160 lbs, I end up pick a 5”9 seaside. It that a perfect size for me ?
Anh Hoang Your liters should be roughly 27-29 for a intermediate surfer. Beginner can be roughly 40 liters. Advanced to Expert liters 24.5-26.5.
Thank you so much
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MIDAS MIDAS please, is a rare board and we need your help
Your videos are incredible. After discovering them I’m going to find it hard to buy a board that I haven’t seen you dissect. Have you ever ridden a Hypto Krypto?
Jeffrey Finnecy Yewww!!! Stoked you like our show. No, I have never ridden the Hypto Krypto. Check out our website and you will see all the Brands and Boards we have reviewed. Surfnshow.com