Can self taught martial arts be effective?

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  • @davidtheamazing4617
    @davidtheamazing4617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +528

    Get into lifting weights, if you don't have weights then lift heavy rocks and logs, also run long distance, physical fitness is one of the best martial art. At least that's what I did, I started lifting when I was 11 and didn't get into martial arts until 20 and I was able to learn quick because on my athletic background.

    • @kissPANCRASION
      @kissPANCRASION 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Great advice, conditioning your body is best because when you start to do the martial arts then you could learn quicker

    • @Vibxzy
      @Vibxzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same here man but I’m 18 and I train mostly solo to get physical fitness up

    • @kalisticks573
      @kalisticks573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice

    • @m.israel2209
      @m.israel2209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No that wasn’t the reasoning, okay it played a role, but your humility to be so easy to teach. That’s why you learned quick.

    • @Ricardo7250
      @Ricardo7250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This resonates with Joe Rogan's criticism of CM punk performance in the UFC. Joe basically says: "he simply doesn't have physical talent, just put a soccer player in CM Punk's place and that soccer player will do so much better"

  • @elpanamoe8040
    @elpanamoe8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    "Do you want to be better than crap, or do you want to be better than good?".
    Priceless!

    • @chriswhalley
      @chriswhalley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL, totally

    • @huzaifaniazi5041
      @huzaifaniazi5041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Francis Hayden i hacked Bidens profile found some pretty lewd shit omg this app is insane (insert generic statement regarding my excitement)

  • @GhostRider-hy9zt
    @GhostRider-hy9zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    The moment Ramsey realized he almost told a minor to meet strangers on the internet is priceless.

  • @KirstenBayes
    @KirstenBayes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    What I'd say is there's always someone to learn from. My dad was a cop, so he taught me and my sister. Grandfather boxed in the army. Neighbour did judo for many years. They're not classes but you'd be surprised what you can pick up outside a formal dojo. Sparring and trying it out is key.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly! 😊😊

    • @kez_the_reaper2657
      @kez_the_reaper2657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree with you completely even if your not learning technique's from the martial art a family member learns you can pick up some good principles you can later fall back on when training in whatever or wherever end up

    • @TheClinchMagazine
      @TheClinchMagazine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You already had a team of almost pro level fighter. Fuck, even better than some of the gyms.

    • @gboymachine9762
      @gboymachine9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I've learned not to be flat footed, keep your arms up, and how u want to have fast punches not pushing punches from my Step-dad, How the average person/idiot fights (aiming for the head mostly/only), different punching combos from YT, and a few other things from Karate and Kickboxing (when I was young and didn't care for it, but remember some of it).

  • @lancepabon
    @lancepabon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    There's no way to find the holes in your technique without sparring, especially against opponents better than you...

  • @shaytepes7351
    @shaytepes7351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Experience is a great teacher. To be humble enough to know when you are out-classed is something most find out after a couple black eyes.

    • @eddard9442
      @eddard9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And never give up, persistence is key.

    • @stuflames4769
      @stuflames4769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You misspelled 'poked'.
      Poked eyes.

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuflames4769 ehh, a wiseguy, eh?

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuflames4769 nyuk, nyuk, nyuk

    • @stuflames4769
      @stuflames4769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@varanid9 I appreciate the actual three stooges talking to me in my head, when reading that.
      A surreal experience.

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Back in the old days, former UFC Champ Evan Tanner taught himself jiu jitsu watching VHS tapes. Obviously that's nowhere near as efficient and effective as going to a good Jiujitsu gym and being able to train under John Danaher. But we have to make do with what we have.

    • @rebelmnk2382
      @rebelmnk2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But he trained in wrestling since a child.

  • @TastelessCracker
    @TastelessCracker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I like how you had to stop yourself and make sure you were telling a minor to meet strangers from the internet, and then decide to say it was a bad idea. It's just a little thing, but it showed that you legitimately care about the advice you give your fans, and appreciate their well being. A lot of people wouldnt admit they had a bad idea, especially so quickly!

    • @Tdrex14
      @Tdrex14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      u look like kratos

    • @holyoldman6537
      @holyoldman6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shave it Neill, shave the beard neill

    • @St.Calamity
      @St.Calamity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@holyoldman6537 Girls like the Whiskers.

  • @scottmacgregor3444
    @scottmacgregor3444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I know someone who was self taught and wound up taking bronze in his first tournament. It's not the norm, but it can be done.

    • @xiaochenliu2326
      @xiaochenliu2326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was it bjj?

    • @scottmacgregor3444
      @scottmacgregor3444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@xiaochenliu2326 It was HEMA, or Historical European Martial Arts. Quite possibly the nerdiest martial art out there.
      While it is a pretty niche thing, it was also at the time the largest tournament ever held in Canada.

    • @tanyachandler2326
      @tanyachandler2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Daniel LaRusso?

    • @Infinity777z
      @Infinity777z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tanyachandler2326 no it was Michael Jackson

    • @Suleiman2006
      @Suleiman2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks a lot, bro. This really helps me. I am learning martial arts the self-taught way. I even teach more than 20 students now as a coach. They came as novices but they are better off now than they came. I use to have self doubt whether I am good enough.

  • @inyalgaico1563
    @inyalgaico1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    I actually started out self taught with the right mindset its very effective but you need to test yourself
    not to different from playing a multiplayer game in single player mode sure you have practised and learned but eventually you need to compete with others to see how effective you really are

    • @santiagosegovia8756
      @santiagosegovia8756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same here but I started from boxing self taught but I did wrestling

    • @inyalgaico1563
      @inyalgaico1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@santiagosegovia8756 neat

    • @lancepabon
      @lancepabon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Amen to that. There's no way to find the holes in your technique without sparring, especially against opponents better than you...

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lancepabon Indeed. 😁😁😊😊 Also, different Opponents present different obstacles and movements.

  • @TheKillaMethod
    @TheKillaMethod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    If your smart and stick to simple effective techniques and martial arts than yes you can learn by yourself. Stand up is easy. Grappling is not as easy. In anyway you need to test yourself with live opponents.

    • @TheKillaMethod
      @TheKillaMethod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@sydvicious2378 no no, you did wrestling in HS bro, I mean to teach yourself by yourself. Its easy to watch a video and throw your hip and turn your body and punch . Its not easy to teach yourself how to grapple. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

    • @hungryorphan5975
      @hungryorphan5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sydvicious2378 grappling is infinitely more complicated snd you just said you wrestled in hs

    • @TheKillaMethod
      @TheKillaMethod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hungryorphan5975 forrealz

    • @sydvicious2378
      @sydvicious2378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheKillaMethod gotcha, yes it would be very hard to teach yourself grappling without a training partner. No way to gauge if what your doing would even work.

  • @tedsketches4957
    @tedsketches4957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My guy has a voice like buttermilk goddamn. I would love to listen to a narration by this beautiful man.

  • @knucklebine6277
    @knucklebine6277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    fight the cows and horses

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No punches or kicks, just wrestling :)

    • @CrystaTiBoha
      @CrystaTiBoha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To make the fight equal, give both the cattle and yourself a gun.

    • @dweebferber552
      @dweebferber552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrystaTiBoha LMMFAO

    • @jonasandersson7367
      @jonasandersson7367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you mess with the bovine you get the horns, just saying an agry cow or a horse dudes it is extremley unfair and not in the humans favour.

    • @kalisticks573
      @kalisticks573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Khabib: what about a bear

  • @swim.p8631
    @swim.p8631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can learn a good bit on your own but you still need to put it to the test

  • @jeffreylook9849
    @jeffreylook9849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Every martial art started off self taught developed by an individual or a small group. It's the refinement of those techniques over time that make it effective against what they're training against. Without further adaptation due to changing circumstances and threats, it will stagnate. Learning from the established traditions will cut down on the learning curve. Is it better to make your own martial art or learn an established one? Maybe you're that kinesthetic genius who can learn very easily. What is a martial art? Basically a system of self defence initially.

  • @anuspajamas6105
    @anuspajamas6105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Self taught striking could be effective
    Self taught Grappling? Ehhh, i dunno

    • @d1namis
      @d1namis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it depends on the way of training, you absolutely can learn lots of technics if you learn them from youtube-video with some one like brother or sister or even father. On other hand - mentality and spirit is a huge part of striking. Like on my first local karate competition i got a huge hit of PTSD almost collapsing after one round. Some times when i remember it i got literally shake in legs.

    • @studentoflife8532
      @studentoflife8532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@d1namis well its hard to remember grappling techniques without practicing them with another person. To my experience I've known many locks and reversals from yt vids and watching fights but don't know when and where to use them. I don't know which situations where a certain move can get me the win or get me knocked out. I don't know how to recognise advantages since I haven't applied it in reality.

    • @scottbauer71
      @scottbauer71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      My self taught pro wrestling beat my buddy's self taught tea kwon do

    • @studentoflife8532
      @studentoflife8532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottbauer71 hah. Nice

    • @danielcox7629
      @danielcox7629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can't train grapling without a fren

  • @swordsmen8856
    @swordsmen8856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "the unpopular weirdos in the corner" that was me to a T back in high school and I've wanted to learn how to fight for years.

  • @triplecisthegoat7000
    @triplecisthegoat7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If I'm not mistaken Jon Jones originally learned how to strike using some old DVDS with enough creativity and intuition anything is possible but it's probably best not to stay limited to old DVDS 😂

    • @nygelleredpath
      @nygelleredpath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Max Holloway actually learned from the UFC game. LOL

    • @triplecisthegoat7000
      @triplecisthegoat7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nygelleredpath gotta love Max 😂

    • @CrystaTiBoha
      @CrystaTiBoha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      >DVDs
      >old
      What?!
      I guess what is really getting old is me. 😂

    • @soldierx345
      @soldierx345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought about a kimura before i knew it was a thing.

    • @MrJohneblaze822
      @MrJohneblaze822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I learn a to fight watching WWF and martial art movies as a kid lol.

  • @martintanz9098
    @martintanz9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I am a defense attorney who once represented a guy on appeal who was a "self trained martial artist". My client preferred to train in bladed weapons such as knives and swords. And he started to carry knives on him so when the time came, he would get a chance to use the techniques he practiced on the streets. And that day came one night when two drunk guys who had just left a house party in his neighborhood had words with him. The guys were unarmed. My client had his knives. And a physical confrontation ensued.
    The good news was, the techniques that he trained were effective. The bad news is, when he used the techniques, he seriously injured two people and almost killed one of them. He went to trial and wound up serving 10 years in prison.
    Had this guy worked with a good martial arts instructor, he may have learned some non deadly techniques for self defense that would have served him better against an unarmed attacker in a self defense situation than using a deadly weapon in a situation that didn't warrant using a deadly weapon. Or at least, he might have learned the difference between controlled violence in a gym or dojo vs. the uncontrolled violence in the street.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Contrary to popular belief, the streets do in fact, have rules.

    • @edrichlouw1790
      @edrichlouw1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Let’s be honest. Even doing aikido will be used against you in court if it helps the other guy’s case😂

    • @martintanz9098
      @martintanz9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RamseyDewey that is an interesting point, and perhaps the subject of another podcast.

    • @albertroundtree8546
      @albertroundtree8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@RamseyDewey sorry, but I don't believe they do. My friend was attacked and ended up in hospital beaten to a pulp by a group of men. The doctor said he was lucky to be alive. A chap I worked with was jumped by 3 men while carrying his weekly shopping and to this day has spinal problems. Please tell me what the rules are.

    • @albertroundtree8546
      @albertroundtree8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @goldenhotdogs : What are you talking about? Where did I say I was willing to break the law? I gave the example of two friends who were brutally attacked. On both instances the police or courts did not protect them. The criminals are still at large. Well good luck to you and your belief in courts and police. I sincerely wish you well.

  • @Yace
    @Yace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I was a kid I used to train in my garage lifting weights, hitting my punching bags and makeshift cobra bags. Also I watched and studied a lot of boxing through TH-cam videos. When the time came for an underground boxing match I knocked out the other kid. I also knocked out my cousins abusive boyfriend when he attacked me. I was 14 and he was 20 and had at least 60 pounds on me.

  • @garyleeheard3434
    @garyleeheard3434 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Growing up , we never had dojo in our town but I wanted to go somewhere and learn how to fight . As I was always bullied badly as a kid ..even when we finally did get a dojo. Still my mom couldn't afford it monthly.. instead of asking every week how about now . I rented every book from public library and school library on karate , Taekwondo, Boxing , jujitsu, kempo.. just anything I could learn from I grabbed it . Even a gymnastics book as well for better stretches and learning proper way to flip . I studied each book for as long as I could rent them out . Went out in the yard and tried my best . Punching and kicking the air or on cardboard fridge boxes ..most of the time the bullies would always travel in packs my case was 7 usually.. they were never bad ass alone .by the time I reached 15. My brother bought me a birthday gift . Tao Of Jeet Kune Do book, some of it I didn't understand but he would go out and spar with me pretty much full contact. Every day after school that became my home work . 1 day I finally got my chance and was tested . Got jumped in bathroom by 3 dudes . Man I never felt better . I knew then that it paid off . The way I learned to block from Bruce Lee was bad ass . These kids never picked on me again . Some of their other boys tried it on the bus .. you know ,the old spit wads and tripping in the isle shit...1 kicked me into the other dude . Then pushed me into the other . I Thrust kick him back down on his ass ,back fist to the other one and that went on for a few minutes.. once I walked off bus . I apologized to the driver . Cause I never caused issues on way home before .he said to me Gary Lee about time you kicked their asses I'll see you Monday .
    Self taught might not be complete accurate on the exact form but it is a thing that can help if your options are limited..100 percent. Saved me from anymore bulling and from that point no more people bullied me and others that were like me or in my shoes or even my friends with disabilities.. I stood up for them all I was no longer afraid . And now as an adult . Where I am a little more financially stable I have thought about joining a Dojo close to me . Just because it has been something I've always wanted to do . Earn my degrees . Even tho self taught has done me great . Choice is ours ..

    • @snexbau5251
      @snexbau5251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude your story is dope af..thanks 4 sharing👍

    • @garyleeheard3434
      @garyleeheard3434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snexbau5251 Thanks

    • @Aniontedone
      @Aniontedone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am all for the underdog !!!!

  • @ethienosinsky5186
    @ethienosinsky5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been training strking for a bit more than a year, i met a Muay Thaï guy who trained and competed for a decade, we sparred and i managed to not get rolled over and tag him multiple times, but he did say "I was going somewhere [if i kept training]"

  • @jimburrows2884
    @jimburrows2884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't see why self taught martial arts cannot be effective; when you think about it, the people who developed martial arts had to try techniques to see what would work and what wouldn't. Generations down the line those techniques would be refined and improved and added upon, but during the early developmental stages someone had to teach themselves before passing it on to others.

  • @punisher7772
    @punisher7772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lots of sparring can make self taught martial arts work. A lot can be learned from a dojo but to really get good the best and quickest way to get good at fighting is to train at home and have a few training partners. In a lot of ways it is better then paying money for classes.

  • @ChrisCapoccia
    @ChrisCapoccia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    fortunately for practical martial arts, there is a way to tell whether you're any good. there are competitions. you don't need a belt to show how good you are

  • @BlackPinoy869
    @BlackPinoy869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I am for the last 22 years self taught in Capoeira, Taekwondo, and Ninjitsu. Still very active. I don't compete but I use it as mental and physical therapy. I may not be the best fighter in the world, but I find myself much more physically capable than the majority of those around me.

    • @knucklepuppy824
      @knucklepuppy824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This. Here. You're not gonna use your training against masters (why would a master fight you in the first place?) or anyone with discipline. You've improved yourself, that's what was important.

    • @lastmanstanding5423
      @lastmanstanding5423 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      add Aikido to that and you have a full set of most cringe martial arts in existence

  • @bosschick6300
    @bosschick6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am a self taught nunchaku user im just picking up on staff and I do boxing at home plus 30 to 50 kg weights I train over 15 hours a week just on the nunchaku alone.ive never been in a club I do not conform to one art as I like to be diverse. A method to my own perfection in my training is i film myself and look back to see my faults and correct it.im very critical on myself and im absolutely strict on myself.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And that’s totally doable with martial arts weapons forms! Thanks for the comment!

  • @VincentMMALife
    @VincentMMALife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I totally agree. Ramsey you're on of the best martial arts channels on TH-cam! You're a big inspiration for someone like me who is trying to grow his channel😁

  • @hailhydreigon2700
    @hailhydreigon2700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "Curriculum + Training Partners + Instructor" is the most efficient way to learn. Everything is pre-set with error correction along the way from someone experienced.
    "Curriculum + Training Partners" can be very effective. Maybe you guys are working off a book or videos, or some kind of source material. My old Wrestling club in High School started like this, and we won State.
    Then there's "No Curriculum + Training Partners" where you all just practice random moves you saw on TV or just fight until you find something that works. The grind will eventually yield something viable, but it'll likely take more time this way.
    Then there's "Curriculum + Self" and "No Curriculum + Self". Which are both arguably not teaching you anything. At the least, you need a training partner.
    And as Ramsey said, competition. Competition is more than just testing yourself. You also meet other clubs/schools and can exchange a lot of great ideas. I dare say Martial Arts is a team effort, and you need to eventually get yourself a team. :)

  • @Aditya-wg3lp
    @Aditya-wg3lp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Covid came and my karate class shut down. Every other class feels like a playground where you buy belts and not learn martial arts

  • @Canal_Marte
    @Canal_Marte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you follow some rules, and find yourself in certain experiences yes.

  • @sramdeojohn4428
    @sramdeojohn4428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The real test is when you have to defend yourself in a real life situations.
    There will always be someone better, stronger, more flexibility or more knowledgeable that you. We learn from each other cause no one person knows all or can do it all.
    Excellent Commentary. Always start somewhere and it is not how you start... it is how you finish.

  • @renehenriksen1735
    @renehenriksen1735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quote Dewey: " - Martial arts is a lifelong pursuit." We can all agree to that, and it should be like that. Unfortunately there are way too many people who don´t feel that way.

  • @L2kneel
    @L2kneel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think people realize just how long you have to be training for martial arts to be effective in what they would call self defense

  • @SavedSnake
    @SavedSnake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm self taught....but I haven't been able to test my skills....I try to get sparring partners...but no one is ever a keeper of their word they never come thru....I wish I could continue my training, further it and refine it....but funds are low and courages training partners are nearly non existent....I WISH I COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

    • @edrichlouw1790
      @edrichlouw1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just from working with newbies in our university tkd club I’d prefer not sparing with someone self taught. Restraint seems to always be a big issue and I think most people would rather not get injured sparing with someone who, although meaning well, could seriously injure them.

    • @SavedSnake
      @SavedSnake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edrichlouw1790 yea its true...I had to tone down my level of seriousness and strength when I went to an M.M.A gym for the first time I could only afford 1 month tho...it was the best time of my life.

  • @roarblast7332
    @roarblast7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would say just learn body mechanics until you can spar and train with people. Go watch people train. Go watch people shadow box. Practice the movements. Get really really good at them. Also play pvk. If you learn pattern thinking, are in great shape, and have good body mechanics, you will learn to fight in no time.

  • @manjitsarkar736
    @manjitsarkar736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked your genuinity on topics

  • @user-jo6zj6tr2t
    @user-jo6zj6tr2t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always great video

  • @halterrill9475
    @halterrill9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was somewhat of a tool when I was younger , a very selfish young man and I taught myself martial arts by beating up progressively tougher opponents , at first only the very weak and then stronger and better . I never put myself at risk and perfected sucker punches . I only used a hand full of techniques and goaded my often pissed off and or drunk adversaries into attacking in a variety of manners . I always had my bases covered and acted like they attacked me unprovoked . I’m a grandfather now and I no longer endorse or participate in violence outside a sporting event but those early days taught me about reality and to take my emotions out of fights which helps me actually turn off my aggression allowing me a pacifist lifestyle

    • @lgoll
      @lgoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This does sound like you were an unpleasant person to be around back in your day
      But props to your pacifistic current lifestyle

    • @halterrill9475
      @halterrill9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colin Cleveland I wish I could , they where mostly random people . I’m not making excuses but I think that I did not do any permanent damage . Hopefully they are all well and have forgotten about their run in .

    • @Whoitbay1898
      @Whoitbay1898 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂

  • @gboymachine9762
    @gboymachine9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really, it's mostly about mental strength; Your body does what your mind tells it too. If you wanna be good at martial arts (w/out a dojo), train and use what u have.

  • @darthvader4339
    @darthvader4339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It can be if you have proper footwork and you really practice each strike individually.

  • @ImranKhan-sj5ji
    @ImranKhan-sj5ji 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro you deserve so much sub
    Love your content
    Keep it up

  • @user-md1pw4wr4u
    @user-md1pw4wr4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Assuming he is a high school student, maybe try starting a mma club with the high school. I assume the gym teacher could help with that.

    • @windhelmcityguard5122
      @windhelmcityguard5122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The thing about schools is that they're bitches, they definitely wouldn't let us have an mma club

    • @AdobadoFantastico
      @AdobadoFantastico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If he's in high school his best option is probably wrestling.

    • @edrichlouw1790
      @edrichlouw1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Some of the parents in my hometown tried to close down a karate dojo that some kids in the school was in so I doubt the west would even consider mma in schools. Weird seeing as the same school did boxing back when they were there.

    • @RavenGuardian
      @RavenGuardian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@windhelmcityguard5122True, but the liabilities are too high for them to handle, they'd rather not deal with it all together. That's probably a good thing because if it was allowed then they'd water it down and not allow sparring. So it would be as good as a cardio kickboxing or boxercise class. I used to train at my university's gym and we weren't allowed to spar unless it was BJJ or Judo.

    • @kimkillillasfuq8212
      @kimkillillasfuq8212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Small town schools often don't have much money. Mine didn't have money for that

  • @rooben6741
    @rooben6741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nothing wrong with self-taught. But it will only take you so far. Because you do not know what you are missing, and you won't push yourself past your 'brickwall'. Formal training is also good for comparison; measure where you are at. Lastly, you need to develop discipline, focus, zanshin etc. It is still better than not training at all.

  • @terranceaddison4599
    @terranceaddison4599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like his voice....definitely radio worthy

  • @anunayasingh3621
    @anunayasingh3621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It might be possible to learn martial arts in virtual reality in the near future and this would be better training than dojo.

  • @dodgesportsman772
    @dodgesportsman772 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a martial arts instructor myself with over 47 years I can say this... You get what you put into it... Train hard and correctly you will be as good. I've seen many students that just didn't care and they sucked. I've also had self taught students who worked out hard and were actually good....

  • @lazaros5342
    @lazaros5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i am also self taught

  • @daviddimalanta259
    @daviddimalanta259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best radio voice ASMR while learning in this video. 🙂

  • @TheArabConservative
    @TheArabConservative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an inspirational speech. "Trancending to other things in life" In reality that never happens. Martial arts lead to more martial arts. I've never heard of a martial artist/fighter transcending into an Engineer or Doctor. They simply get trapped in the character we call the martial artist or fighter until they age out or get severely injured. You are too intelligent to keep abusing your body and you "transcended" into a social media philosopher. That's a good thing. Many people enjoy this healthy version of you. Did you trancend? Or did you simply retire early. Good man...Godspeed 👍

  • @shauncoghlan20
    @shauncoghlan20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Very well said! I myself moved to Toronto to train.

  • @themodernmusketeer877
    @themodernmusketeer877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here’s a way of looking at the subject of teaching yourself. In the early days of HEMA (historical European martial arts) there was nobody alive that knew how to fight with a longsword or a sidesword or rapier. They stopped teaching how to use them when people stopped using them. All they had to work with was books written by fencing masters of the time. There was a long period of trial and error as they tried to figure out how these techniques actually worked. It might take a little longer, but you can definitely figure out whatever techniques you want to learn on your own. The only downside is that you might pick up some bad habits that you might have to unlearn later. This is something I had to do when I first started HEMA a year ago. I had some habits from my military combatives training that didn’t translate well into sword fighting

  • @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840
    @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840 ปีที่แล้ว

    very profound introspection of development, growth and martial arts.
    Likewise Ramsey said: "Martial Arts is the seek of truth".

  • @oldsloppy69
    @oldsloppy69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said, even when I trained (which was on a farm in the country, no gyms) I had a teacher, but I never trained with a cult dojo. Haven't tested myself yet but I felt good from it.

  • @joeyfigueroa4748
    @joeyfigueroa4748 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Go slow if you must, go easy if you must, just GO.” ~ Urijah Faber

  • @padmaraman2796
    @padmaraman2796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miyomoto Musashi trained alone, it's also how much you put in training that counts too

  • @chrismcdaniel475
    @chrismcdaniel475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Evan Tanner UFC learned from videos.

  • @dragostoma9033
    @dragostoma9033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:23 I actually can relate to this... But I train in martial arts because after some classes it became a lifestyle that I never want to give up

  • @MegaSkyline69
    @MegaSkyline69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A few great fighters have started out as self taught. Max Holloway claims to have learnt to fight using the UFC video game. And Mirko Crocop claims he learnt how to kick from watching JCVD movies.
    To test your skill you need to eventually train with others. If you're training, you've already made a wise decision.

  • @masterwrong4933
    @masterwrong4933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yesno

  • @nightrider3448
    @nightrider3448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love him i gonna start right know

  • @marcgoulet1967
    @marcgoulet1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @thecheatcode9336
    @thecheatcode9336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His voice is so silky smooth

  • @THEARCHITECT801
    @THEARCHITECT801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, so, good! Love it brother. This was a beautiful response, done so with respect. I very much appreciate your commitment; to both wisdom & integrity - whenever providing such insight, as it is imperative that we remain honest with mentorship. Thank you for sharing, consistently operating with empathy and truly showing compassion, through coaching. I feel blessed to be a part of (when taught honestly) our beautiful world of martial arts💪🏾

  • @chrismcdaniel475
    @chrismcdaniel475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it comes down to it. A champion does the extra work by himself alone.

  • @aherodoingcriminalactivity
    @aherodoingcriminalactivity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx man

  • @whitelivesmatter6864
    @whitelivesmatter6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've learned basic skills from videos and books.. Palm strikes to the nose and punches to the solar plexus are easy to learn.. I practice by punching mattresses.. Got in 2 fights over the years.. Both times I smashed his solar plexus.. Both times the fight was over.. So yes, I'm living proof of self taught MMA.

    • @cope2247
      @cope2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you learn me Instagram ?

  • @silasginell9251
    @silasginell9251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That bad advice moments cracked me up. Excellent way to explain the answer to that question! Love the channel Ramsey!!

  • @joelguy2949
    @joelguy2949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good advice

  • @vasilijenicic6806
    @vasilijenicic6806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a friend like this. Never trained martial art, learned to fight by fighting with his brothers. I sparred with him a coupke of times, and he's a beast even though I have more training behind me. But again, he's super talented. I showed him kimura and amricana once, and next time we sparred he used americana on me. I was just blown away by the fact someone can learn a submission just be seeing it once. So, I recon, if he had some MMA experience behind him, he'd be much better fighter than he is now

  • @rebal180
    @rebal180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who has sparred with many partners I can say effectiveness depends on you natural abilities. Simply knowing techniques doesn't cut it against someone bigger and stronger than you.

  • @BellowDGaming
    @BellowDGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    >Can self taught martial arts be effective?
    short answer YES
    long answer watch Ramsey's video

  • @comradeperez8068
    @comradeperez8068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats good advice sir.

  • @phil.d-roll6393
    @phil.d-roll6393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And yesir. It is awesome.

  • @papita69xxx
    @papita69xxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sensei Ando started being self taught. However he realized something: what you can find by doing that has already been discovered by someone else. So you can do your own thing and discover how to grapple and strike....or you could learn from someone who trained in a system that discovered that ages ago.

    • @north9951
      @north9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have to disagree slightly with this as the many things already discovered by various arts are sorta readily available via many platforms. It’s not so much discovering a technique or skill but rather mastering it with out someone’s guiding hand which still takes more time but isn’t as bad as having to discover the fundamentals and biomechanics from scratch.

  • @mmma5261
    @mmma5261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are definitely better now then before

  • @The_Captainn
    @The_Captainn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a poor, loner, nerdy kid who idolized Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan, Jet Lee and Donnie Yen. I ended up making the tree in my backyard into a punching bag with cloth wraps,and I checked out every single book I could on the subject of Martial Arts. Eventually, the world kept bringing more and more martial challenges to me, and those all led me to different senseis, masters, teachers, some professionally taught, and some not, all of which had the grace to teach me with experience and opportunity. After some time, I found myself in a new situation, in the military. It was only then, during Combatives training, that I learned how much further ahead on the path my journey had gotten me than someone who was just beginning their training. I had made myself into a mountain; strong of mind, spirit and of body. I gave myself a toolkit that no beginner could even hope to have. But it also made me realize what I was missing; I needed a dedicated master stoneworker to carve my stone into a great work of art. I found one, and then realized that there was even more of me to be carved. From there, I found more masters who could help me polish myself. That's all it took to make me into a great martial artist, and while I've still got some work to do and some areas that need polish, I plan to start my own school within the next 5-10 years.

  • @lightonstillwaters6789
    @lightonstillwaters6789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great on the fly response to Dominique ! 👍
    Hey Dominique keep practicing with your cousins and imitating what you learn from good YT vids, excercising and cardio, etc.,. Think about what you are learning and how to improve on it. Good luck.

  • @ajarciaga8864
    @ajarciaga8864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The potential for efficacy is there. I just think it really depends on the practitioner, why they train, how they train and how often they train

  • @razormonkey5279
    @razormonkey5279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe fight to the death challenges might be a good start to socialize!

  • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
    @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are virtual sparring videos on TH-cam (it's better than nothing). And videos of fighters and coaches, some of them teaching the basics, like jabs, hooks, etc.

  • @FredKuneDo
    @FredKuneDo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If someone really has no chance to train with others or at a school or dojo/dojang, it is still a good thing to learn from books or videos.
    At least you can learn the techniques and mechanics. Learning to fight needs sparring of course, to get it all together.
    But if the kid later can get in a school. dojo/dojang or gym, he may even have an interesting ability, because he learned to train alone and work on his skills himself.
    This something I seen a lot, that some people who go 2 or 3 times a week to their "martial arts schools" lack of the passion to train at home on the other days, working on their kicks, punches, footwork or strength.

  • @marcelocastro6992
    @marcelocastro6992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:37 Ramsey described me at high school, thats why i started martial arts

  • @iamdev__369
    @iamdev__369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Thanks man..💜🇮🇳🙏*

  • @trhl1155
    @trhl1155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have nothing or no one to teach you martial arts learning yourself from books and TH-cam nowadays is very good too. As a kid in the 80s I too practised karate from books very seriously. I continued self practicing right until I reached my 30s after my knee tear. Of course with that same dedication I am sure I would have done much better under a good teacher. But you gotta do it with what you have.

  • @nataschabenni2001
    @nataschabenni2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to think I had weak combat instincts, until my brother, who studies anthropology told me that the smartest humans always grab a rock or something

  • @primordial.sounds
    @primordial.sounds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting topic, I think it's pretty obvious that they can, but it's probably rare. I believe this because all of the popular martial-arts were conceived by someone or a group of people who therefore had to self-teach as they developed the style. I guess it also depends on what you mean by self-taught. If you mean studying a style academically and only ever practicing by yourself then I would say yes to some degree more effective than someone who has never trained or studied an art.

  • @elusivenativ3023
    @elusivenativ3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Self trained(not really I had a few cousins to train with) in BJJ. All I worked on is blue belt level fundamentals and I can tell you it works. Train smart and a lot of sparring. When I was 150lbs I was submitting 200 pound plus guys with no martial arts experience. I would not recommend using it in a street fight because when you’re in a dominant position like the mount, it’s a high possibility some random person would hit you behind the head.

  • @danielteixeira5139
    @danielteixeira5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it can!!! (But only if you sparr with some one and try fail and get better).
    Growth comes from experience if you sparr a bit of boxing and wrestling and you get down the basics of self awereness you are better off

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    True story I learned from 119 books before I have my first teacher 6 years later
    I was highly motivated dealing with gangs and such
    I visited dojo’s took free classes
    Sparred boxers and karate guys and wrestlers
    I took boxing lessons at the PAL
    Which shaped much of my training strategies
    I visited karate classes which taught me stances and other warm up drills
    I read Tao of jeet Kune do cover to cover training daily
    I kept a note book
    I focused on the basics
    Every new technique I would practice 1000 times
    Advance 1000 times
    Retreat 1000 times
    Advance with punch 1000 times
    Retreat with punch 1000 times
    Sides steps 1000 times
    Pivot and angle 1000
    Times
    Slip bob weave
    Punching
    200 jabs each hand
    200 right crosses each hand
    200 hooks each hand
    200 upper cuts each hand
    Kicks practice each kick 100 times
    Stretching routine learned from several karate kickboxing Kung fu yoga books
    And dance and ballet monkey stretching from Paulie zink. Shaolin stretching from shaolin books.
    Forms learned from the Chan kin man books
    Sparring sparring adults who could beat me easily these were my sparring partners
    Funny I won first place at a form tournament but was disqualified because I didn’t have a school. That I learned from.

  • @scienz
    @scienz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kung Fu, martial arts is hard work....... if all you have is a book to teach yourself from, your dedication and hard work will go as far as you want it to

  • @radicaledwards3449
    @radicaledwards3449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes

  • @waaagh3203
    @waaagh3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It completely depends on the circumstances. If you're someone who has no experience, you will get nowhere training yourself. Are you a very experienced martial artist trying to teach yourself a new move or incorporating a new strategy and teaching it to yourself? Yeah, you're going to be a lot more successful if that's the case.

  • @charlesfieltesjunior4381
    @charlesfieltesjunior4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have just clicked the video but his face on the thumbnail says everything

  • @NoviusInfernalBerserk
    @NoviusInfernalBerserk ปีที่แล้ว

    That's my main problem. I can practice at home as much as I want but since I don't have anyone to train with and don't go to the gym, I'll never be any good. Wish I could go to the gym again but I'm currently in such a bad health condition, that I just know I couldn't deal with the stress of constantly training in a club.

  • @thihsareb
    @thihsareb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the same situation in Louisiana. No dojo on the bayou. I in my opinion if you can learn your basics that is most important. Especially like Karate type arts. Musashi was largely self taught and know his results.

  • @jeremiahiwinski1401
    @jeremiahiwinski1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did nothing in my childhood except copy Bruce Lee moves and Roadhouse moves until I was 10 where I joined a Daito-Ryu Dojo where I trained until I was 18. Then I trained in Wing Chun until I was 19. I was a decent fighter, but my techniques lacked strength. I have found that proper training is a combination of Good instruction, Proper technique, Body Strengthening, Cross Training, and Sparring. The more I Cross Trained, sparred, and competed in challenge matches (I don't recommend the last one), the better a fighter I became.

  • @JR-sz7dw
    @JR-sz7dw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have someone you can practice with. Yes. That’s really all you need. You’re brain needs to have the experience and know how so it doesn’t brain fart during extreme situations. Thinking about something and the body actually doing it are different things. Doing it to air will not give the same effect as practicing with a real person and you will know when you do things wrongs as they won’t work very well.

  • @JustinGarfield1
    @JustinGarfield1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would go to mma classes on and off. I would learn a lot from videos. Like Mayweather demonstrating how to step in the jab. I did traditional martial arts and that actually did help me in kickboxing. People are not used to blocking turnback kick, push kick etc. Then I went to a ghetto boxing gym. And learned the basics of punches. So,still need help, but can hold my on when I am sparring in kickboxing. So use every tool you have. Shadow box a lot then do sparring.
    If you got wrestling at your school please take it!! If you know anyone that did boxing learn from them.

  • @zachariaravenheart
    @zachariaravenheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my experience, yes. My self trainings effectiveness has been due to good videos on TH-cam that I found and a decent understanding of my body I got from already training in a dojo. Now I got a friend to spar with to test my skills even more which I really need. It has been too long since I’ve had a decent training partner and that’s what I need to get even better than I am now.
    Going too long without proper sparring has made me quite rusty. I gotta be honest. I’m slowly knocking that rust off now.

    • @dirtman118
      @dirtman118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you thank you so much I'm just starting out and I fear because I don't have the money I can't go to a gym any time soon but I'm going to try my hardest to teach myself :D

    • @zachariaravenheart
      @zachariaravenheart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dirtman118 Good luck man! Stick to the basics.

    • @cope2247
      @cope2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tag that videos ?

    • @zachariaravenheart
      @zachariaravenheart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cope2247 Just check out channels like Fight Tips, Kwonkicker, Burridge Kickboxing and Hardtohurt.