This is Donald F. Duncan Jr., (1927-2003). His father, Donald F. Duncan, Sr. (1892-1971) founded the company back in the 1920s that churned out millions of Duncan yo-yos. Junior later helped popularize the toy himself. He died in a single car crash along with his wife Donna in 2003 in New Mexico. He was 76. Junior was made president of the company in 1950, and took over the company with brother Jack when Senior retired in 1957. Ironically, Duncan, Sr. also died in a car accident in 1971 in Palm Springs.
In the early 1970s when I was growing up there commercials for Duncan yoyos were awesome 👍. Needless to say I did my best to perform a lot of the stunts and tricks that they were able to do with the yo-yos.
I remember at that time, either owning or examining someone else's yo-you that didn't have the traditional shape (known as "The Imperial"). I had one that was shaped like a flying saucer and my brother had a "Butterfly".
Anthony Cevallos Yuk!! Do you? The previous arrangement I thought was classier, tastier and had more life to it. Arlene could do a strip to this one, twirling a long glove. :)
Since I don't see Vahan Nisanian's usual post giving the date on which a pre-recorded episode was pre-recorded, let me add that this episode was pre-recorded on Sunday, 27 May 1962, before the evening's live episode. "Sayonara," for which Red Buttons won an Oscar for Best Supporting Oscar in 1958, was his first featured role in a movie. (He had appeared in "Winged Victory" in 1944, while still in the military during World War II - and was credited - and had an uncredited bit part as a jump-master in "13 Rue Madeleine" in 1946.) And he did, indeed, go on to play some very interesting parts in the movies over the years, including "Imitation General," "The Big Circus," "Hatari!" (which he plugged on this episode), "Five Weeks In A Balloon," "The Longest Day," "Gay Purr-ee" (he's the voice of Robespierre), "A Ticklish Affair," "Your Cheatin' Heart," "Up From The Beach," "Harlow" (the Carroll Baker film, in color), "Stagecoach" (the 1966 color remake; he's very good as the whiskey drummer, and the movie is very good, too), "The Shoot Horses, Don't They?", "Who Killed Mary What'sername?", "The Poseidon Adventure," "Gable and Lombard," "Pete's Dragon," "Movie Movie," and "It Could Happen To You." (He also did very well in a substantial role in the 1985 made-for-TV movie "Reunion at Fairborough," which marked the last of Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr's on-screen collaborations.) Red Buttons was less successful when it came to starring in a TV series in the 1960s and beyond, his only such foray being "The Double Life of Henry Phyfe," which lasted only 17 episodes on ABC in the fall of 1966. But he worked regularly in TV over the years, having 4-5 episode recurring-role story arcs in "Knots Landing" in 1987, in "ER" in 1995 (and a reprise of said role in 2005), and in "Street Time" in 2002.
+jmccracken1963 I wouldn't bet against Bennett not knowing where it was, especially with all the speaking tours he took. In fact, if he didn't ask, the reason was because he probably knew.
I am pretty sure my brother and I had yo-yos long (in kid years) before 1962 and that "Duncan" was a name synonymous with yo-yos. I can imagine the children of the panelists razzing their parents for not guessing the occupation, especially when it was established that the product was associated with games.
Those crinoline petticoats were miserable. I lived in Phoenix where hardly anyone had A/C at that time when I was in school (50s-60s) (every one almost does now!!) but those ### petticoats would stick to the back our legs and we had to pull and push and rearrange them when standing up! Very uncomfortable, luckily the fad wasn’t around very long by then and pencil skirts became the rage!!
The last guest said that cleaning the exterior of the Empire State Building was more useful to men than it was women. I can't figure out how that could possibly be the case.
In all honesty, John gave away too much by telling the panel the girls were from New Englad. I guessed right away what they did just from thst little tidbit of information. Sometimes he wss a little too clever for himself. He could have withheld where thet were from. It's been done before.
@@scottpardee6303John is really on with the wording in this episode! I doubt anyone today could even follow his line of information! Personally I enjoy how he phrases comments!!!
@@scottpardee6303 What's an "Encyclopedia Britannica?" Are them a bunch of books, or somepin? ~ The first "longest word" I learned to spell as a child was "encyclopedia," and among some of my friends, it was fun to see how fast we could spell out the word: E*N*C*Y*C*L*O*P*E*D*I*A, almost like it was a musical number.
I was really impressed with John Daly's closing words to the two young lobster catchers just before they were ready to exit. He was so encouraging and so positive. For a moment he served as a loving father-figure and a wonderful role model who was willing to show his humility when offering his blessings to these two young women. He is a hero.
Yup, they sure were. It's referenced at times during the introductions. I don't think they were literally next door neighbors, but they referred to each other neighbors many times.
Joe Postove Arlene and Martin moved to Mount Kisco some years after Bennett and Phyllis. Arlene mentioned it in an earlier episode, but I don't remember which. From the mid-50's I think.
SuperWinterborn Joe Postove What's My Line? I think I remember Arlene mentioning Bennett as her Mount Kisco neighbor several times in the episodes I have watched, but I also specifically recall her mentioning it as a first-time thing in one of her introductions of Bennett. I couldn't connect any of these references to specific episodes either, though. From page 137 of "Arlene Francis: A Memoir": "The house we built was adjacent (as those things go in the country, which meant a few acres away) to Bennett and Phyllis Cerf's house..." Somewhere I thought I'd read that the Gabels actually bought the land on which they built the house from the Cerfs. I thought it was in the same book somewhere, but I checked each page that is referenced in the index in connection with either Bennett or Phyllis Cerf, and I haven't found it yet. There's no entry for "Mount Kisco" in the index. This is going to bother me until I find it, so I'm not giving up -- just stopping the search for now. I think Arlene and Martin also continued to rent a hotel apartment in Manhattan in addition to maintaining their Mount Kisco home.
SaveThe TPC How long a drive was it from Mt. Kisco to NYC? It seems that Bennett drove in from there often. Did Bennett and Phyllis have a Manhattan apartment? Back in the rent control days it was not that uncommon for a wealthy person to have a large apartment for a couple hundred a month. Or is that apocryphal?
Joe Postove It's about an hour's drive-- but what I want to know is, why do you think rent control in NYC is in the past?!? :) There are two cities-- just two-- that have had severe rent control policies in place since WWII: NYC and San Francisco. Now take a wild guess which are the two most expensive cities in the country to find an apartment in. Go ahead, guess. I'll wait here. Next, take a wild guess which two cities I've lived in most of my adult life. And why I've lived on the edge of financial ruin for the past 15 years.
Duncan Yo-yo.....90s kid nostalgia. Yo-Yo's were huge in the 90s because they were a big upgrade from the regular old Yo-yos. You could do all sorts of tricks. Yomega was very popular.
Galileocan g While it can be used all year around or at least its restriction to one season is not compulsory, nevertheless due to the conventional nature of settings where the said item might be used ie. salubrious climates, a yo-yo is most often enjoyed during perhaps one or two seasons more than the other two.....oh s**t, I've just given it away! (in homage to John Charles Longwind Daly)
I am surprised that the fact that lobsters ain't anywhere near being a fish got by the vaunted J.D. Daly! They are crustaceans, and tasty ones at that.
John Daly was badly in need of a rudimentary refresher on biology. He gets animal taxonomy staggeringly wrong on a regular basis. I consider this his single biggest weakness as a moderator/parser of questions. Fortunately, the panel members are just as bad with this stuff as he is, so they all seem to be speaking the same (wildly wrong) language.
Joe Postove Provocative question, but for me, an unprovocative answer: No. I just think animal classification is one area in which he was weak. When you see the handful of shows where other folks sub for him-- including Clifton Faddiman, the inventor of the position of panel moderator on radio with "Information, Please"-- you see how much John brought to the program as moderator. The handful of syndicated WML shows I've seen show Wally Bruner to be a total bore, and Larry Blyden somewhat entertaining, but no match for Daly. Just one guy's opinion.
Joe Postove I have also noticed how often John makes mistakes about or is totally ignorant of animal classification, but those who catch lobsters are correctly referred to as "lobster fishermen," and the contestants were the ones who agreed that their product was "some kind of fish," so I don't fault John regarding this particular case so much. I do fault him with his decision to make a big fuss about not telling the panel exactly where the contestants came from, yet saying that they came from New England. If he really wanted to make sure the panel had no geographical clues, he should have refrained from telling where they were from all together. I think he felt really bad about it when Bennett guessed so quickly and tried to make it up to the girls by keeping them on for a while, as well as flipping all the cards, so I forgive him. :)
SaveThe TPC I can't remember which show it's in exactly, but it's coming up *very* soon-- a woman who peels bananas. Wait till you see the mistake he makes on that one. Apparently he was just as bad at plant taxonomy! :)
Don't blame Bennett. He just asked the question. It was John Daly and the challengers who gave him a yes, and to a lesser extent Arlene who suggested lobster when Bennett asked what types of fish are in the water off of Maine.
Of course lobsters are fish! They come from the ocean don't they? Just pinch me if that's not true; however, I don't want to get crabby here, so, okay, if it ain't a fish, it ain't a fish! Oh, something I just read from True Lobster Mobster Magazine: The reason a lobster can be high in the water is because it's on pot!
Bennett should have let the first two contestant take at least one turn around the panel before he zeroed in on their occupation. The two girls hardly said a word during their appearance.
Do you have the next episode with Shirley Jones as a mystery guest? That one is said to have aired on GSN sometime between 1995 and 1998, according to Eric Paddon, a fellow WML fan.
Yes-- and this explains why the copy I have was obviously recorded on a VCR. Coming up tomorrow. I don't know Eric Paddon-- but I'm always looking for sources for missing episodes. . . I don't bother with hard core traders since they won't generally be interested in dealing with a person like me, whose whole purpose is to share the shows with as many people as possible. I have been lucky enough to find a few folks, one in particular, who have helped fill in shows just cause they want to support the effort.
What's My Line? He goes by here as epaddon sometimes. He's been on this channel before. He was the one who gave a theory as to why the mystery guest in Fred Allen's last episode was missing. Anyways, glad to hear that you do have it.
What's My Line? This is Eric Paddon. I have all the episodes extant except for about 3-4 and I'd be interested in getting in touch with you regarding my getting to you a copy of a 1965 episode with Marian Anderson as the Mystery Guest, which on the master GSN kinescope was hacked up and put back together by Goodson-Todman in the wrong sequence (a result of their butcher jobs when producing the 1975 anniversary special). I re-edited the episode back to "normal" as well as two other episodes that have missing footage on the masters that were used in the anniversary special and it would be nice if others could see the episodes done correctly.
Ah, the magic moment when +What's My Line? met +epaddon! And the rest is history. Everyone who regularly watches and enjoys these videos in indebted to both of you (and I assume a few others as well who have provided assistance in getting a complete collection of the extant videos onto this channel). _"Gee Dobe, I'm getting all kinds of misty ..."_ _"Me too good buddy. Me too."_
Might as well say here I always think of Martin Gabel as tge excellent narrator on Mercury records lavish albums on the Civil War (one for the North, one for the South). He presents battles like Gettysburg complete with authentic cannon and ordnance. The rest is popular music of the period played on authentic instruments. But Martin is a highlight.
Lobsters are NOT fish which are vertebrates.. They are crustaceans which are invertebrates. I am amazed that the girls didn't know the difference. I've forever given up on the panel
I'm glad you observed that, because that always struck me as odd when two mystery guests had to sit on the same chair. Also, there was some difficulty for the guests to hear what the panelists were saying; this occurred on many occasions that I observed after having watched a number of these episodes. There must have been something wrong with the way the mics were not clearly picking up the panel's voices; something was lost in the enunciation process, I guess. It was a great show, but very little money went into producing it, that's for sure.
It's funny that still, in 1962, plastics had not reached into every corner of the manufacturing world yet. When Mr Duncan said yes to wood, I was surprised. I can't remember ever seeing a wooden yo-yo. By the time I was doing yo-yos in the late '60s, I think plastic yo-yos were all there were. "Plastics." said Mr McGuire to Benjamin Braddock. And he was right.
@Blue Camus I still have one I got around this time as a gift when I was a kid. It's wooden. I can never figure out why the panel never comes right out and asks if a product is recreational. Or a toy.
These young lobster fisher girls must still be alive and well (hopefully).. wonder if they've ever seen this episode? They would only be in the start 70ies by now...
I actually agree with you here. Mr. Daly was not letting Mr.Duncan talk at all during this repartee he was engaged in with one of the panelists. It was annoying! However, I loved the exactness of your perception here--and as it was presented within the brevity of your comment above.
Dear Dorothy - please forgive me, but to criticize your introduction of Martin Gabel - there's one adjective I would never use in describing Martin Gabel, and that adjective would be "attractive"
Galileocan g I think Dorothy may have had a teensy bit of a crush on Martin, and on Bennett too. I don't think either of them were her physical type, but from what I've read, I don't think her own husband was ever particularly sweet to her, and I think both Bennett and Martin usually were. Also, I think she admired the sweet, loving relationship that Martin and Arlene had with each other, and perhaps she found Martin's loving attentiveness to his wife to be very attractive. I certainly do.
Galileocan g I admit that he was obviously not drop-dead gorgeous, like a Hollywood heartthrob, but he did have a nice kind face and seemed to be a friendly and pleasant sort of person to know.
Why does John talk so much? I would think the guests should be allowed to answer without him taking over all the time. Watching him with Mr. Duncan is most annoying. Shut up, John.
Gizzy Dillespie Agreed. Often he goes off on this type of spiel while there's an utter LEGEND sat next to him, he goes on and on and on....and you think to yourself, "never mind you, let's hear what ELLA FITZGERALD or JAMES MASON has to say?!?"
Wendy Darling To be fair, no one on the panel actually says that lobsters are fish. The "lobster fishing" guests do say yes though when asked if 'it's some kind of fish". So they are the thickos! :)
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This is Donald F. Duncan Jr., (1927-2003). His father, Donald F. Duncan, Sr. (1892-1971) founded the company back in the 1920s that churned out millions of Duncan yo-yos. Junior later helped popularize the toy himself. He died in a single car crash along with his wife Donna in 2003 in New Mexico. He was 76. Junior was made president of the company in 1950, and took over the company with brother Jack when Senior retired in 1957. Ironically, Duncan, Sr. also died in a car accident in 1971 in Palm Springs.
Thank You 😊
In the early 1970s when I was growing up there commercials for Duncan yoyos were awesome 👍. Needless to say I did my best to perform a lot of the stunts and tricks that they were able to do with the yo-yos.
I remember this era when yo-yo was all the rage. Just huge. And yo meant Duncan.
Even in the 1980s, when I was a kid, Duncan's were the rage!
I remember at that time, either owning or examining someone else's yo-you that didn't have the traditional shape (known as "The Imperial"). I had one that was shaped like a flying saucer and my brother had a "Butterfly".
I believe this season's musical intro to be the best of the whole series.
Anthony Cevallos Yuk!! Do you? The previous arrangement I thought was classier, tastier and had more life to it. Arlene could do a strip to this one, twirling a long glove. :)
Since I don't see Vahan Nisanian's usual post giving the date on which a pre-recorded episode was pre-recorded, let me add that this episode was pre-recorded on Sunday, 27 May 1962, before the evening's live episode.
"Sayonara," for which Red Buttons won an Oscar for Best Supporting Oscar in 1958, was his first featured role in a movie. (He had appeared in "Winged Victory" in 1944, while still in the military during World War II - and was credited - and had an uncredited bit part as a jump-master in "13 Rue Madeleine" in 1946.) And he did, indeed, go on to play some very interesting parts in the movies over the years, including "Imitation General," "The Big Circus," "Hatari!" (which he plugged on this episode), "Five Weeks In A Balloon," "The Longest Day," "Gay Purr-ee" (he's the voice of Robespierre), "A Ticklish Affair," "Your Cheatin' Heart," "Up From The Beach," "Harlow" (the Carroll Baker film, in color), "Stagecoach" (the 1966 color remake; he's very good as the whiskey drummer, and the movie is very good, too), "The Shoot Horses, Don't They?", "Who Killed Mary What'sername?", "The Poseidon Adventure," "Gable and Lombard," "Pete's Dragon," "Movie Movie," and "It Could Happen To You." (He also did very well in a substantial role in the 1985 made-for-TV movie "Reunion at Fairborough," which marked the last of Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr's on-screen collaborations.)
Red Buttons was less successful when it came to starring in a TV series in the 1960s and beyond, his only such foray being "The Double Life of Henry Phyfe," which lasted only 17 episodes on ABC in the fall of 1966. But he worked regularly in TV over the years, having 4-5 episode recurring-role story arcs in "Knots Landing" in 1987, in "ER" in 1995 (and a reprise of said role in 2005), and in "Street Time" in 2002.
It says August 12, 1962
wow! the founder of duncan yo-yos. they were very popular back in the 1960s. didn't realize they were created in chicago.
And I'll bet that nobody on the panel knew where Wilmette, Illinois (Mr. Duncan's hometown) was, either.
+jmccracken1963
I wouldn't bet against Bennett not knowing where it was, especially with all the speaking tours he took. In fact, if he didn't ask, the reason was because he probably knew.
It was probably because the internet was down.
I had several Duncan yo-yos as a child, but they were all plastic. None of them were wooden.
Can one say the “founder” of Duncan yo-yos when they bought another existing yo-yo company and its assets?
Arlene seemed very happy and was always very complementary and gracious to everyone.
Bring 'em on WML! I don't think we'll see class acts like this again.
Arlene was so witty. She must have been a blast to be married to or as a friend.
I am pretty sure my brother and I had yo-yos long (in kid years) before 1962 and that "Duncan" was a name synonymous with yo-yos. I can imagine the children of the panelists razzing their parents for not guessing the occupation, especially when it was established that the product was associated with games.
It was only established that the product was associated with games on the last question.
You are so dense
So Red Buttons' major film at that time was Sayonara. I seem to think it was a tragedy. Does anyone know?
DUNCAN....My childhood right there.
Again, a lobster is not a fish. Also, John should have not told them that they are from New England.
Just out of high school Missed this one But it is funny even now
I like how that empire state building window cleaner bent over for the ladies.
Wow, I remember those crinoline slips that made the dresses flair out. On Sundays I would get to wear one.
Couldn’t stand them but had no choice 😢
Those crinoline petticoats were miserable. I lived in Phoenix where hardly anyone had A/C at that time when I was in school (50s-60s) (every one almost does now!!) but those ### petticoats would stick to the back our legs and we had to pull and push and rearrange them when standing up! Very uncomfortable, luckily the fad wasn’t around very long by then and pencil skirts became the rage!!
Frank N. Corrado, the last one, was probably the best looking male contestant on the show!
The last guest said that cleaning the exterior of the Empire State Building was more useful to men than it was women. I can't figure out how that could possibly be the case.
Jeff Vaughn Because most of the individuals with offices at the time would have been men.
Randall King You beat me to it. And if true, what a great "diverting" answer it is!
In all honesty, John gave away too much by telling the panel the girls were from New Englad. I guessed right away what they did just from thst little tidbit of information. Sometimes he wss a little too clever for himself. He could have withheld where thet were from. It's been done before.
Absolutely right that he should have withheld where they were from. He also shouldn't have said it was a summer job.
I didn't think the girls were from "New Englad!" I think thet were from the state of Manned. (And why are you calling Mr. Daley a "wss!")
I would love to have a copy of ALL of John Dalys EXPLANATIONS for all 17 years!!!
Ho! Ho! It would be bigger than the Encyclopedia Britannica!
@@scottpardee6303John is really on with the wording in this episode! I doubt anyone today could even follow his line of information! Personally I enjoy how he phrases comments!!!
Mr. Duncan earned $50! At the time of this program my Dad was earning $40/week!!! So $50 was a nice chuck of $$$$!
@@scottpardee6303 What's an "Encyclopedia Britannica?" Are them a bunch of books, or somepin? ~ The first "longest word" I learned to spell as a child was "encyclopedia," and among some of my friends, it was fun to see how fast we could spell out the word: E*N*C*Y*C*L*O*P*E*D*I*A, almost like it was a musical number.
At 20:03 Red Buttons says he grew up with the panelists. I would assume he meant he grew up watching them, but he was in his forties. I'm confused.
Maybe he meant his career/fame grew up with them, as he was on earlier episodes in the 1950's.
I was really impressed with John Daly's closing words to the two young lobster catchers just before they were ready to exit. He was so encouraging and so positive. For a moment he served as a loving father-figure and a wonderful role model who was willing to show his humility when offering his blessings to these two young women. He is a hero.
I didn't know that Martin and Arlene also lived in Mount Kisco. I wonder were they neighbors of Bennett and Phyllis?
Yup, they sure were. It's referenced at times during the introductions. I don't think they were literally next door neighbors, but they referred to each other neighbors many times.
Joe Postove Arlene and Martin moved to Mount Kisco some years after Bennett and Phyllis. Arlene mentioned it in an earlier episode, but I don't remember which. From the mid-50's I think.
SuperWinterborn Joe Postove What's My Line?
I think I remember Arlene mentioning Bennett as her Mount Kisco neighbor several times in the episodes I have watched, but I also specifically recall her mentioning it as a first-time thing in one of her introductions of Bennett. I couldn't connect any of these references to specific episodes either, though. From page 137 of "Arlene Francis: A Memoir": "The house we built was adjacent (as those things go in the country, which meant a few acres away) to Bennett and Phyllis Cerf's house..." Somewhere I thought I'd read that the Gabels actually bought the land on which they built the house from the Cerfs. I thought it was in the same book somewhere, but I checked each page that is referenced in the index in connection with either Bennett or Phyllis Cerf, and I haven't found it yet. There's no entry for "Mount Kisco" in the index. This is going to bother me until I find it, so I'm not giving up -- just stopping the search for now. I think Arlene and Martin also continued to rent a hotel apartment in Manhattan in addition to maintaining their Mount Kisco home.
SaveThe TPC How long a drive was it from Mt. Kisco to NYC? It seems that Bennett drove in from there often. Did Bennett and Phyllis have a Manhattan apartment? Back in the rent control days it was not that uncommon for a wealthy person to have a large apartment for a couple hundred a month. Or is that apocryphal?
Joe Postove It's about an hour's drive-- but what I want to know is, why do you think rent control in NYC is in the past?!? :)
There are two cities-- just two-- that have had severe rent control policies in place since WWII: NYC and San Francisco. Now take a wild guess which are the two most expensive cities in the country to find an apartment in. Go ahead, guess. I'll wait here.
Next, take a wild guess which two cities I've lived in most of my adult life. And why I've lived on the edge of financial ruin for the past 15 years.
Duncan Yo-yo.....90s kid nostalgia.
Yo-Yo's were huge in the 90s because they were a big upgrade from the regular old Yo-yos. You could do all sorts of tricks. Yomega was very popular.
Red Buttons’ real name was Aaron Chwatt.
Blue Zippers 😂❤️
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Since when did Yo-Yos become seasonal?? Does the yo yo string freeze up in winter??
The whole segment made me dizzy...
Galileocan g Perhaps YoYo sales were seasonal back then...
+Galileocan g Perhaps because it's associated with the outdoors?
Galileocan g While it can be used all year around or at least its restriction to one season is not compulsory, nevertheless due to the conventional nature of settings where the said item might be used ie. salubrious climates, a yo-yo is most often enjoyed during perhaps one or two seasons more than the other two.....oh s**t, I've just given it away! (in homage to John Charles Longwind Daly)
Probably the kid's mom told her child to be playing with it outside to prevent the yoyo from breaking her favorite knickknacks by a trick gone awry.
I am surprised that the fact that lobsters ain't anywhere near being a fish got by the vaunted J.D. Daly! They are crustaceans, and tasty ones at that.
John Daly was badly in need of a rudimentary refresher on biology. He gets animal taxonomy staggeringly wrong on a regular basis. I consider this his single biggest weakness as a moderator/parser of questions. Fortunately, the panel members are just as bad with this stuff as he is, so they all seem to be speaking the same (wildly wrong) language.
Would you say (I hate to say it) that in some ways John Daly was a poser?
Joe Postove Provocative question, but for me, an unprovocative answer: No.
I just think animal classification is one area in which he was weak. When you see the handful of shows where other folks sub for him-- including Clifton Faddiman, the inventor of the position of panel moderator on radio with "Information, Please"-- you see how much John brought to the program as moderator. The handful of syndicated WML shows I've seen show Wally Bruner to be a total bore, and Larry Blyden somewhat entertaining, but no match for Daly. Just one guy's opinion.
Joe Postove
I have also noticed how often John makes mistakes about or is totally ignorant of animal classification, but those who catch lobsters are correctly referred to as "lobster fishermen," and the contestants were the ones who agreed that their product was "some kind of fish," so I don't fault John regarding this particular case so much. I do fault him with his decision to make a big fuss about not telling the panel exactly where the contestants came from, yet saying that they came from New England. If he really wanted to make sure the panel had no geographical clues, he should have refrained from telling where they were from all together. I think he felt really bad about it when Bennett guessed so quickly and tried to make it up to the girls by keeping them on for a while, as well as flipping all the cards, so I forgive him. :)
SaveThe TPC I can't remember which show it's in exactly, but it's coming up *very* soon-- a woman who peels bananas. Wait till you see the mistake he makes on that one. Apparently he was just as bad at plant taxonomy! :)
Read about this show in Shoe Dog book.
When elegance was wonderful!
Lobsters are not fish, Bennet
Don't blame Bennett. He just asked the question. It was John Daly and the challengers who gave him a yes, and to a lesser extent Arlene who suggested lobster when Bennett asked what types of fish are in the water off of Maine.
That's true
Lars Rye Jeppesen He never said they were.
Lois Simmons Spot on. Some people just have it in for Cerf, bless im,
Of course lobsters are fish! They come from the ocean don't they? Just pinch me if that's not true; however, I don't want to get crabby here, so, okay, if it ain't a fish, it ain't a fish! Oh, something I just read from True Lobster Mobster Magazine: The reason a lobster can be high in the water is because it's on pot!
I love how they had the horses ass bring the question mark 😂
Must represent Cerf
Oh - you mean the introductory music and cartoon. At first I thought you meant a person, so I was strugfling to determine who the "a. " was.
Do I hear Latin at 14:22? I can't figure out what John Daly is saying.
Arlene said, Therefore. And Daly replied (or somethin akin to), id est quod est - loosely, it is what it is.
First time advertising for Duncan Yo-yos?
Bennett should have let the first two contestant take at least one turn around the panel before he zeroed in on their occupation. The two girls hardly said a word during their appearance.
Bennett Cerf already knew the occupation of the ladies from his spy, his wife, Phyllis Cerf.
I don’t know why they told the panelists where people were from. In some instances, that was just too much of a hint.
Do you have the next episode with Shirley Jones as a mystery guest?
That one is said to have aired on GSN sometime between 1995 and 1998, according to Eric Paddon, a fellow WML fan.
Yes-- and this explains why the copy I have was obviously recorded on a VCR. Coming up tomorrow.
I don't know Eric Paddon-- but I'm always looking for sources for missing episodes. . . I don't bother with hard core traders since they won't generally be interested in dealing with a person like me, whose whole purpose is to share the shows with as many people as possible. I have been lucky enough to find a few folks, one in particular, who have helped fill in shows just cause they want to support the effort.
What's My Line? He goes by here as epaddon sometimes. He's been on this channel before. He was the one who gave a theory as to why the mystery guest in Fred Allen's last episode was missing.
Anyways, glad to hear that you do have it.
What's My Line? This is Eric Paddon. I have all the episodes extant except for about 3-4 and I'd be interested in getting in touch with you regarding my getting to you a copy of a 1965 episode with Marian Anderson as the Mystery Guest, which on the master GSN kinescope was hacked up and put back together by Goodson-Todman in the wrong sequence (a result of their butcher jobs when producing the 1975 anniversary special). I re-edited the episode back to "normal" as well as two other episodes that have missing footage on the masters that were used in the anniversary special and it would be nice if others could see the episodes done correctly.
epaddon That would be wonderful, Eric. Thank you for the offer! I sent you a private message to your TH-cam account. Hope to be in touch.
Ah, the magic moment when +What's My Line? met +epaddon! And the rest is history. Everyone who regularly watches and enjoys these videos in indebted to both of you (and I assume a few others as well who have provided assistance in getting a complete collection of the extant videos onto this channel).
_"Gee Dobe, I'm getting all kinds of misty ..."_
_"Me too good buddy. Me too."_
Might as well say here I always think of Martin Gabel as tge excellent narrator on Mercury records lavish albums on the Civil War (one for the North, one for the South). He presents battles like Gettysburg complete with authentic cannon and ordnance. The rest is popular music of the period played on authentic instruments. But Martin is a highlight.
Lobsters are NOT fish which are vertebrates.. They are crustaceans which are invertebrates. I am amazed that the girls didn't know the difference. I've forever given up on the panel
I know right 😊
Wonder why they could never get another chair??
I'm glad you observed that, because that always struck me as odd when two mystery guests had to sit on the same chair. Also, there was some difficulty for the guests to hear what the panelists were saying; this occurred on many occasions that I observed after having watched a number of these episodes. There must have been something wrong with the way the mics were not clearly picking up the panel's voices; something was lost in the enunciation process, I guess. It was a great show, but very little money went into producing it, that's for sure.
Duncan Yo-Yo's were the best, I owned quite a few as a kid, wow. Later he made plastic ones that were awesome.
It's funny that still, in 1962, plastics had not reached into every corner of the manufacturing world yet. When Mr Duncan said yes to wood, I was surprised. I can't remember ever seeing a wooden yo-yo. By the time I was doing yo-yos in the late '60s, I think plastic yo-yos were all there were. "Plastics." said Mr McGuire to Benjamin Braddock. And he was right.
@Blue Camus I still have one I got around this time as a gift when I was a kid. It's wooden.
I can never figure out why the panel never comes right out and asks if a product is recreational. Or a toy.
I remember a plastic yo-yo that lit up.
14:46 WELL SAID, ARLENE FRANCIS!! Good grief!!
i cant believe they didn't know about Duncan Yo-yos.
*_LOBSTER FISHERMEN_*
*_MAKES YO-YOS_*
*_CLEANS EXTERIOR OF EMPIRE STATE BUILDING_*
Aannnd your point?
Dats my birt day.🤪
How are yo yo's seasonal?
They're not. That was stupid. I live in Canada and I remember doing the "walk-the-dog" yo-yo trick across the ice all the time.
They were classy..
John had a habit of answering too many of the questions for the contestants.
These young lobster fisher girls must still be alive and well (hopefully).. wonder if they've ever seen this episode? They would only be in the start 70ies by now...
Shouldn't it be lobster trappers?
Yes
Lobster fishermen is appropriate ..you're not living in 1950
Oh dear! For the first (I hope only) time ever, I kept wishing John Daly would shut up! His verbosity just wasn't funny.
I actually agree with you here. Mr. Daly was not letting Mr.Duncan talk at all during this repartee he was engaged in with one of the panelists. It was annoying! However, I loved the exactness of your perception here--and as it was presented within the brevity of your comment above.
Martin Gabel got two obviously no answers with the Duncan yo yo guy yet Daly let him continue to ask questions.
I cannot see Red Buttons, the video is all black and white... Haha, nice joke.
The girls were lobster fisherpeople
Or they could be considered peoplefishers.
This was the week Marilyn Monroe died. Shame she never appeared on the show.
She would made a great mystery guest
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Dear Dorothy - please forgive me, but to criticize your introduction of Martin Gabel - there's one adjective I would never use in describing Martin Gabel, and that adjective would be "attractive"
Dorothy might forgive you. I'm not sure Arlene would. :)
True, but in Dorothy's defence, perhaps the reference of attractiveness was related to Martin's personality
Galileocan g
I think Dorothy may have had a teensy bit of a crush on Martin, and on Bennett too. I don't think either of them were her physical type, but from what I've read, I don't think her own husband was ever particularly sweet to her, and I think both Bennett and Martin usually were. Also, I think she admired the sweet, loving relationship that Martin and Arlene had with each other, and perhaps she found Martin's loving attentiveness to his wife to be very attractive. I certainly do.
Galileocan g I think he was adorable...
Galileocan g I admit that he was obviously not drop-dead gorgeous, like a Hollywood heartthrob, but he did have a nice kind face and seemed to be a friendly and pleasant sort of person to know.
Why does John talk so much? I would think the guests should be allowed to answer without him taking over all the time. Watching him with Mr. Duncan is most annoying. Shut up, John.
Bennett: send her out again! He's so clever!
Clever because he repeated a joke that's been around for 100 years? LMAO
7:06 Sometimes John Daly's prissiness becomes unbearable.
Gizzy Dillespie Agreed. Often he goes off on this type of spiel while there's an utter LEGEND sat next to him, he goes on and on and on....and you think to yourself, "never mind you, let's hear what ELLA FITZGERALD or JAMES MASON has to say?!?"
I got a little tired of John Daly on this one.
miraclay - Oh no. I love John Charles Daly. His schtick, if you will;:was to sound as if he wrote questions for law school exams.
Sometimes he’s a little much, Bennet is sometimes too
LOBSTERS ARE NOT FISH!!! Ugh. This panel has no clue about biology.
Wendy Darling To be fair, no one on the panel actually says that lobsters are fish. The "lobster fishing" guests do say yes though when asked if 'it's some kind of fish". So they are the thickos! :)
yes - -they weren't "fishermen", they were "lobsterpeople"
I was never able to like mr. Daly.
John Daly got to be annoying with his long winded explanations when the Duncan guy was on. He didn't let the contestant answer the questions!
Oh shut up John Daly!!!
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