I know it’s not meta but for some reason I have been getting the most kills with the 545 bp. It’s also my first wipe and I’m just hitting lvl 28 and it’s the ammo I find on the ground spawns but ya it’s been good to me. Sec up would have be m80 out of the dmrs hits hard
@@nickolaiorlov4732 so actually Bullets with less than 20 pen can never fragment regardless of fragmentation chance. It’s a bug that’s been in the game for over 4 years. If this wasnt the case however I’d agree with you
@@Rengawr I never knew that. That's kinda dumb and interesting at the same time because it feels like RIP rounds drop people so much faster than quakemaker and I figured it was due to the fragmentation because the damage is pretty close. I'm going to run some tests with this with a buddy and I'll send you what I get. Does this channel have a discord?
This is not only an Ammo Tier List, but an excellent recap of the Metas of this wipe. This is the “What you absolutely need to know about Meta in 12.12”. Still my favorite Tarkov TH-camr.
As a semi-casual player, I'm pretty grateful for this video. I hate having to stare at multiple excel spreadsheets full of numbers that I don't understand to see if the ammo I have is worth using or not, and this video is clear, to the point, and segmented so that I can skip the ammo's I don't use. Someone also explaining the meta is nice for once. For players like me, who want to casually enjoy the game and not grind/farm for specific ammo too much, a video discussing what ammo types are the best bang for your buck (reasonably cheap and available while still being effective) would be welcome.
Im actually using m61 alot for those longer ranges as u can craft it, expensive it may be but u dont have to worry about the pen on lvl 6 armour. I would use it sparingly, only sniping with bolt actions, maybe not dmr's, then ur shooting 90k every 20 round mag, but if thats what ur into 👉👉
Subbed. This is so helpful for 1-2 hour every other day player like me. Information from creators have sligshotted me ahead on my first wipe. I have alots of shooter exp so micro management is no big deal its the macro. Now that I have job and fam don't have as much time to play and this info is priceless!
The bigger issue with a lot of the small caliber AP rounds is u need alot to be effective something like M61 you only need like 40 rounds to be highly effective with it AP 6.3 or 7N31 needs like 4x that cause you chew through that stuff instantly with the guns it’s chambered in
LPS got me through the SVDS punisher quest with ease, LPS is comparable to M80, I slammed LPS into 20-round mags and spam fired people down in close quarters. I wouldn't use it otherwise though.
Great video besides your take on AP 20. Every single time I bring it out people eat it all day, then when I’m using pbs12b with full class 4 against a 153/ap20, ALWAYS get one tapped thorax. Ap20 is only good when an enemy pmc uses it. Edit: also got the first two hits on him to the chest (maybe I got desync or he had class 6)
Completely forgot about Luger CCI 9mm. Ik it’s flesh damage is 70 which is less than quakemaker but it still shreds for so cheap (if you got traders unlocked). I find so many people won’t take it off raiders but you can sell it for a lot especially if you got the space to save up a lot and sell in bulk like a half ammo box sorta thing. It actually sells for a good amount. Ik it ain’t rip but I get happy seeing it on raiders and boss guards
nice list, yeah I just run ASH, ammo is cheap AF, you one tap scavs in the chest too, can barter the gun for 70k with suppressor, fully modded costs like 150k, less than all other fully modded high cals
Great video as always, highlighting the 762x39 and 762x51 metas this wipe. Really sad that 5.56 and 5.45 suck this wipe. I honestly think the game would be perfect right now if they kept everything the same from this wipe like inertia but just kept the recoil from last wipe. So much rng in recoil that there is such little skill to aiming. It forces you to play reactively instead of proactively when devs decide to add more horizontal recoil. Anyways, great work.
IMO the AKM shooting BP almost outshines any other gun besides M62 or M61. It also cheaper too! This should always be the case if they want to keep Tarkov a Mil Sim. You do not want to get hit by .308 or 7.62.
I agree with you on almost all points. However, I would swap SP-5 and SP-6 and rate PAB-9 gs up a notch. Yes SP-6 has more recoil than SP-5 and destroys the VAL incredibly fast. However, the penetration of the SP-5 is pretty bad after the first few weeks in the wipe. PAB-9 gs is simply a better version of the SP-6 but also much more expensive. I would also downgrade the M62, simply because I think it's far too expensive for what it can do.
Do you have other recent tier lists? If yes please let me know also if no you should definitely make more thanks you are a super chad at this nightmare of a game
So match fmj is better then laser match fmj??? but its more expensive (or maybe same price) but theres a limit to how much you can buy i just assumed it was better but I guess it was just a scam
Good tier list but I was hoping you'd include some more ammo in it, such as RIP slugs and magnum buckshot for shotguns. Also 45 acp rip ammo is disgusting. I know these are leg meta rounds but since you put 9mm rip I think it deserves a spot on the tier list.
I agree with everything except for sp-6 and sp-5 i think sp6 should at least be B tier and sp-5 at C because sp-6 is still kinda easy to control and it gives more pen
The funny part is, garandthumb recently did a test on range with an Altyn helmet. Civilian bought 5.56 went clean through it, but 7.62x39 was stopped. They Need to fix 5.56 and reduce mcx recoil pronto.
M855 is cracked IRL. Super good round. I’ve used it a bunch early game in Tarkov and the amount of silly mag dump fights you get in with it is sad. People just eat M855 in Tarkov.
the thing is, with the high pen low damage no one-shot-headshot potential rounds.. is that intended? or is that an oversight? because it's a pretty fucking big miscalculation.. for a game that sure values realism, not being able to headshot a human with a bullet consistently, is pretty bizarre.. maybe make it if youre penning a helmet, yeah, you have to hit them twice, but theres not reason a bullet hitting an un-armoured, or under-armoured head, shouldn't be the end of them..
It’s an oversight due to the new ballistics change this wipe which makes bullet damage decrease over distance / time + armor already reduces damage from bullets as they pass through in some cases
I don't agree with a lot of this list. I've been playing for 6 wipes. AP20 is hands down the best shotgun ammo in the game. If you can't hit your shots then i see why you'd want to use flecettes. S190 is hands down the best 5.7 ammo as well. Don't use anything else but s190. Ammo is the MOST important thing in the game. Don't use lesser ammo always use the best available you can get. M855 is the exact same as 5.45 BT ammo. Alot of these rounds are not meant to be one tap ammos. The pen ammo is meant to be center mass shredders. 762 us round are complete trash stop lying to people about this ammo, I sat there and let a guy unload on me with that trash ammo and I turned around and 2 tapped the guy with BP. PS ammo is the lowest id go. I will give you props for putting M80 right where is should be. I delete mega chads who are running m61 all the time with m80 rounds.
Just realized I unlocked ap 20 at jaegers. Buy the whole stock. 30 rounds. "Hmm." *load into factory, 8 ap-20s in, 20 flechettes in the pockets* Scav with Untar Armor spawns before me in the "underground" part. Eats one slug to the thorax. Two slugs to the thorax. 3 slugs to the thorax and died. Almost point blank, from the side. Thankfully the flechettes allowed me to kill two pmcs
I mean yes, it worked great for me during previous wipes as well. Point is, This was literally my only interaction with ap-20 this wipe. If I need 3 shots (and I will, because average aim x 45 fps isn't a recipe for success) I'd rather have cheaper ammo I don't care about spamming. 30 rounds per restock really puts me off. Budget wise, shotties are nice, but if I want to larp as a sniper, I'll get one / a DMR.
@@Kojakofthelake I just craft it. Super cheap. Flechette is one of the best budget rounds in the game. My in-game name is Surgical Shotty. Last wipe.i went from level 1 to kappa my second run through.
Idk about putting 7.62x54R LPS in C tier. It’s basically M80 but with better damage and pen plus it’s super cheap. If you don’t like the mosin or SVD that’s one thing but the ammo itself is very good for the price.
Agree with most of this. Good video. Only thing I would say is PS for the SVD is being wayyyyy overlooked here. 1 tap thorax level 4 armor. I've gone svd vs svd multiple times on shoreline and I always come out on top with PS ammo because of the higher damage and decent pen... when I check to see what the enemy was running it's always BT or snb. Also using it for the mosin kills quest is great because of the damage. Dont sleep on PS! Or keep running all the higher pen ammos and I'll wack ya with that ps right into ur thorax :) thanks in advance
@@Rengawr Thanks for the reply! You're a legend! :) Didn't know it couldn't one tap 4 anymore, interesting. I still love it tho hehe for me it's been one of my fav rounds this wipe
I kinda hope they add that weird ass fucking revolver that shoots PS12B (RSh-12, yes, really, that's a thing, apparently designed to be used with riot shields)
AS VAL ammo is very good for spamming semi-auto. It basically have no recoil in this mode and you don't care about heat on semi. SP-5 for B and all over is for A, otherwise it is not worth it to shoot PBP clone from gun that costs 100k base and it works only on semi.
9mm pst - i use it while ratting on map f.e. yesterday i killed a guy with 2 tetriz, mk47 and some tier 4 armor with glock (i was level 13) so yeah it works well when you dont want to lose a lot of money 9mm ap 6.3 - i am more suprised than sad, i think it should have slightly better pen, using mpx or other 9mm smg is completly without any sense just because youll die faster from any meta rifle (untill you load some RIP ammo in your mags and spray chads in legs)
STM was so fun last wipe bro :( i used to slap an ACOG on it for shits and giggles and rapid fire snipe people because it has like 25 recoil. but AP 6 feels like I'm literally poking someone with my fingers this wipe. .45 AP failed me last night too. I was using a UMP and i got hit count 7 on a guy with a PACA and a wheelie shotty but with people wearing korunds I 3-4 tap them. pistol ammo is a hit or miss this wipe :/ shame bc I love me an SMG.
@@JH-fd9xt i honestly had no idea about that round at all until i watched the whole video. i heard him talk about 193 and was like DAYUM! im probably gonna try it out today
Mostly agree except on BS. Yea 5.45 is kinda overall soft esp 7n39 but unless there’s a bug BS is not failing to 1 tap head unless over extreme distance (check the ballistics page). Also, it can be had at level 26 which is a bit early for lvl 5 ammo.
I have people shoot me with BS in the head 4-5 times a week and I don’t die. Armor absorbs damage homie. When it goes through a helmet it usually won’t have enough damage to 1 tap
@@Rengawr While this is true about catching some armor, I’m struggling imagining the fights the people that parrot this are getting into. Get caught out and sniped cold? Yea I got it, shot in the side of the head and it plays out as you say. But after that first shot we’re both looking at each other trying to send the other to the head/eyes party. You getting your bell rung 4 or 5 times a week…even if you can confirm BS with a kill every time I’m now questioning your positioning. No hate, like your content.
Came here to say, M855A1 does NOT bounce off ulachs. It one taps up to 250 metres consistently. It is the one major factor that causes me to use 5.56. M855A1 is pretty meta against lvl 4 armour.
I buy .45 AP with SB193 together from peacekeeper, I don't get why SB193 got a penalty for availability while the .45AP didn't, I seem to have about the same amount in my stash
Man, I hate BS this wipe. It used to be godly, now I have to shoot scavs in the head TWICE to down them. I feel it is so similar to igolnik because it just has no ability to one tap. 545 & 556 are such a bummer this wipe.
7.62x54R PS being C tier is way too low, easily an A tier round with how easy it is to find. And can 1 tap the chest through T4 if youre up close and man the SVD has been wicked this wipe up close. And honestly can run through armor like you wouldnt believe
@@Rengawr I did dude, very solid advice. still I cant get rid of fear of getting into pvp or even pmc raids. needs more training or a change in mindset I guess
BP is more common than covid. I don't have to go out of my way to find it. I haven't bought a single round of BP this wipe. So yea, its playing golf in my stash.
Yeah ap20 does have trouble going through armor when I’m using it. But I can’t even count the amount of fucking times I’ve had class 4 armor on and I’m full health and I’ve been fucking one tapped and they were using ap20
Interestingly im a shoreline resort runner and i rarely got a problem killimg mutant player with my 5.45 guns (i use igo and bs due to closerange...) my altyn mostly bounces bp but i nearly allways die by a headshot by an m855a1 user
IDK man I know you know more, but you are saying that the issue with 9mmAP is that is not that easily aviable therefore a D tier, then say that 7n40 is S tier even if its hard to find. I think you should try to leave rarity outside of the ranking because its a big variable. I still loved the insights on each round, lots of info I didnt know about, and definitely Im going to try US rn
My first wipe and i mostly use ap 6.3 in vector, it is just fun. Cheap and fast craft, bp craft is expensive and long and thr gun is also more expensive. I really enjoy vector with ap 6.3
I think cost is still a big point to keep in mind, almost all other good rounds of bigger calibers are going to cost way way more than 9mm ap, customizing the gun even more, but almost all smgs are good enought with a handgrip and muzzle break
I mostly agree and where I don’t agree I at least understand your argument and just slightly disagree, but idk why… I loved m855 this wipe for whatever reason. I’ve gotten multiple SBIH head taps with it this wipe outta nowhere
@@Rengawr I mean I agree with you m855 is shit, but it oddly worked pretty well when I used it from day 1 of wipe to around a month and a half into wipe. Once I got 56a1 I was using more m4’s tho and even tho I love them to death, I really started noticing how sometimes 5.56 feels solid and other times it feels like complete trash
@@Rengawr only one I’d say I flat out disagree is with PST only cuz your argument against it where you say you might as well just use another guns is spot on, but when I do wanna use 9mm it seems to work well for me even against decently geared players, could also just be nostalgia from last couple wipes shredding people with it with mp5’s on customs
Make 4.5mil an hour - th-cam.com/video/2urdmxHKaxk/w-d-xo.html
Also what is your favorite ammo this wipe?
I know it’s not meta but for some reason I have been getting the most kills with the 545 bp. It’s also my first wipe and I’m just hitting lvl 28 and it’s the ammo I find on the ground spawns but ya it’s been good to me. Sec up would have be m80 out of the dmrs hits hard
I would put RIP as S tier simply because it has 100% chance to fragment. I can 2-3 shot people in the legs whereas it takes me 6-7 with quakemaker.
@@nickolaiorlov4732 so actually Bullets with less than 20 pen can never fragment regardless of fragmentation chance. It’s a bug that’s been in the game for over 4 years. If this wasnt the case however I’d agree with you
@@Rengawr I never knew that. That's kinda dumb and interesting at the same time because it feels like RIP rounds drop people so much faster than quakemaker and I figured it was due to the fragmentation because the damage is pretty close. I'm going to run some tests with this with a buddy and I'll send you what I get. Does this channel have a discord?
Nvm found it 😂
This is not only an Ammo Tier List, but an excellent recap of the Metas of this wipe. This is the “What you absolutely need to know about Meta in 12.12”. Still my favorite Tarkov TH-camr.
this guys is underrated for sure.
As a semi-casual player, I'm pretty grateful for this video. I hate having to stare at multiple excel spreadsheets full of numbers that I don't understand to see if the ammo I have is worth using or not, and this video is clear, to the point, and segmented so that I can skip the ammo's I don't use. Someone also explaining the meta is nice for once. For players like me, who want to casually enjoy the game and not grind/farm for specific ammo too much, a video discussing what ammo types are the best bang for your buck (reasonably cheap and available while still being effective) would be welcome.
Something to note that at long ranges M62 is significantly less accurate, you're better off using M80 at 150+ meters.
Im actually using m61 alot for those longer ranges as u can craft it, expensive it may be but u dont have to worry about the pen on lvl 6 armour. I would use it sparingly, only sniping with bolt actions, maybe not dmr's, then ur shooting 90k every 20 round mag, but if thats what ur into 👉👉
Super true, I was trying to shoot an extract camper at interchange from roughly 100 meters with m62 and I barely hit him. 😫
@@requiemuk2351 When you’re rich mag dumping don’t hurt that much. ☺️
@@TheMrPandabeast true
@@requiemuk2351 I've been running solid M61 on M1A, RSASS, and SR-25 for 2 months at this point
Recoil playing more emphasis on ammo choice is something I haven't experienced to be impactful, but I find this intriguing.
Subbed. This is so helpful for 1-2 hour every other day player like me. Information from creators have sligshotted me ahead on my first wipe. I have alots of shooter exp so micro management is no big deal its the macro. Now that I have job and fam don't have as much time to play and this info is priceless!
The bigger issue with a lot of the small caliber AP rounds is u need alot to be effective something like M61 you only need like 40 rounds to be highly effective with it AP 6.3 or 7N31 needs like 4x that cause you chew through that stuff instantly with the guns it’s chambered in
LPS got me through the SVDS punisher quest with ease, LPS is comparable to M80, I slammed LPS into 20-round mags and spam fired people down in close quarters. I wouldn't use it otherwise though.
Great video besides your take on AP 20. Every single time I bring it out people eat it all day, then when I’m using pbs12b with full class 4 against a 153/ap20, ALWAYS get one tapped thorax. Ap20 is only good when an enemy pmc uses it.
Edit: also got the first two hits on him to the chest (maybe I got desync or he had class 6)
@Rengawr Can we please get more tier list videos. Armor and Guns? I always like hearing the opinions on different load-outs from the best players
this channel is incredible for learning this game. I watch each video twice cause Rengawr talks fast as hell lol
Completely forgot about Luger CCI 9mm. Ik it’s flesh damage is 70 which is less than quakemaker but it still shreds for so cheap (if you got traders unlocked). I find so many people won’t take it off raiders but you can sell it for a lot especially if you got the space to save up a lot and sell in bulk like a half ammo box sorta thing. It actually sells for a good amount. Ik it ain’t rip but I get happy seeing it on raiders and boss guards
10/10 video, it’s what I’ve been waiting on!
nice list, yeah I just run ASH, ammo is cheap AF, you one tap scavs in the chest too, can barter the gun for 70k with suppressor, fully modded costs like 150k, less than all other fully modded high cals
Just what we needed !! 2nd wipe and I’m just realizing the power of good ammo !! I killed more PMCs since It’s so huge
I stumbled across .45 and the UMP recently. Been in love since.
"im gunna be real here, this m62 blackout is exactly the same as b tier stuff, buuuut its f tier, also, ima be honest. ill be real."
I think muzzle velocity should've been a bigger factor but i can get down with all these opinions
Best content. You don’t take 2 hours to do a tier list, I love it
Yo Man Great video! Enjoying the content!!
Great video as always, highlighting the 762x39 and 762x51 metas this wipe. Really sad that 5.56 and 5.45 suck this wipe. I honestly think the game would be perfect right now if they kept everything the same from this wipe like inertia but just kept the recoil from last wipe. So much rng in recoil that there is such little skill to aiming. It forces you to play reactively instead of proactively when devs decide to add more horizontal recoil. Anyways, great work.
Is horizontal recoil still based on gun weight? At least that's the assumption Ive had about it.
IMO the AKM shooting BP almost outshines any other gun besides M62 or M61. It also cheaper too! This should always be the case if they want to keep Tarkov a Mil Sim. You do not want to get hit by .308 or 7.62.
I agree with you on almost all points. However, I would swap SP-5 and SP-6 and rate PAB-9 gs up a notch. Yes SP-6 has more recoil than SP-5 and destroys the VAL incredibly fast. However, the penetration of the SP-5 is pretty bad after the first few weeks in the wipe. PAB-9 gs is simply a better version of the SP-6 but also much more expensive. I would also downgrade the M62, simply because I think it's far too expensive for what it can do.
That’s fair. M62 kind of can shred class 5 believe it or not that’s why I put it so high and the -5 recoil is also nuts. Val ammo can go either way
Do you have other recent tier lists? If yes please let me know also if no you should definitely make more thanks you are a super chad at this nightmare of a game
I’ll be making more soon
This guy continues to be the best.
Thank you, horizontal recoil is hugely important.
So match fmj is better then laser match fmj??? but its more expensive (or maybe same price) but theres a limit to how much you can buy i just assumed it was better but I guess it was just a scam
Good tier list but I was hoping you'd include some more ammo in it, such as RIP slugs and magnum buckshot for shotguns. Also 45 acp rip ammo is disgusting. I know these are leg meta rounds but since you put 9mm rip I think it deserves a spot on the tier list.
Yeah I totally forgot about .45 rip it was an oversight
I agree with everything except for sp-6 and sp-5 i think sp6 should at least be B tier and sp-5 at C because sp-6 is still kinda easy to control and it gives more pen
The funny part is, garandthumb recently did a test on range with an Altyn helmet.
Civilian bought 5.56 went clean through it, but 7.62x39 was stopped.
They Need to fix 5.56 and reduce mcx recoil pronto.
M855 is cracked IRL. Super good round. I’ve used it a bunch early game in Tarkov and the amount of silly mag dump fights you get in with it is sad. People just eat M855 in Tarkov.
go rewatch the vid mate, .308 went through both sides of the helmet like it was paper. no helmet on earth will consistently stop a .308
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem whoops my mistake
I updated my original comment, I meant 7.62x39
@@unlockingsnow73 no worries lol
Hey man I really enjoyed this. Please do more tier lists!
Wrong on AP20 but ok.
On any map other than factory it's better than flechette
Great video my dude! Keep at it!
the thing is, with the high pen low damage no one-shot-headshot potential rounds.. is that intended? or is that an oversight? because it's a pretty fucking big miscalculation.. for a game that sure values realism, not being able to headshot a human with a bullet consistently, is pretty bizarre.. maybe make it if youre penning a helmet, yeah, you have to hit them twice, but theres not reason a bullet hitting an un-armoured, or under-armoured head, shouldn't be the end of them..
It’s an oversight due to the new ballistics change this wipe which makes bullet damage decrease over distance / time + armor already reduces damage from bullets as they pass through in some cases
Great video Bud
great video man. subbed.
I don't agree with a lot of this list. I've been playing for 6 wipes. AP20 is hands down the best shotgun ammo in the game. If you can't hit your shots then i see why you'd want to use flecettes. S190 is hands down the best 5.7 ammo as well. Don't use anything else but s190. Ammo is the MOST important thing in the game. Don't use lesser ammo always use the best available you can get. M855 is the exact same as 5.45 BT ammo. Alot of these rounds are not meant to be one tap ammos. The pen ammo is meant to be center mass shredders. 762 us round are complete trash stop lying to people about this ammo, I sat there and let a guy unload on me with that trash ammo and I turned around and 2 tapped the guy with BP. PS ammo is the lowest id go. I will give you props for putting M80 right where is should be. I delete mega chads who are running m61 all the time with m80 rounds.
7.62x39 US is actually okay for leg meta stuff if you know what your doing it has 0 recoil
Just realized I unlocked ap 20 at jaegers.
Buy the whole stock.
30 rounds.
"Hmm."
*load into factory, 8 ap-20s in, 20 flechettes in the pockets*
Scav with Untar Armor spawns before me in the "underground" part.
Eats one slug to the thorax.
Two slugs to the thorax.
3 slugs to the thorax and died.
Almost point blank, from the side.
Thankfully the flechettes allowed me to kill two pmcs
Go to customs use a mp155 or 153 put a monstrom 2x scope on it. Your welcome.
I mean yes, it worked great for me during previous wipes as well.
Point is,
This was literally my only interaction with ap-20 this wipe.
If I need 3 shots (and I will, because average aim x 45 fps isn't a recipe for success) I'd rather have cheaper ammo I don't care about spamming. 30 rounds per restock really puts me off.
Budget wise, shotties are nice, but if I want to larp as a sniper, I'll get one / a DMR.
@@Kojakofthelake I just craft it. Super cheap. Flechette is one of the best budget rounds in the game. My in-game name is Surgical Shotty. Last wipe.i went from level 1 to kappa my second run through.
5.45 hasn’t been feeling great at all, I got a 9 hit count on someone with BS close range and they walked away feels the same way with 5.56.
I hit a guy 11 times and he killed me. Lol
I took killa down with BT 17 hits. 😂
5.45 really do be the rng ammo
Feel this, I shot 20 rounds of 855 into a guy like it was a nerf gun -_-
I was on stream when this was recorded
Bro when the video turns red...I thought my GPU was dying that's like some next level horror jump scare.
7.62x39 is a wipe-long workhorse. PS to BP all wipe
Idk about putting 7.62x54R LPS in C tier. It’s basically M80 but with better damage and pen plus it’s super cheap. If you don’t like the mosin or SVD that’s one thing but the ammo itself is very good for the price.
W video, thanks man
Agree with most of this. Good video.
Only thing I would say is PS for the SVD is being wayyyyy overlooked here. 1 tap thorax level 4 armor. I've gone svd vs svd multiple times on shoreline and I always come out on top with PS ammo because of the higher damage and decent pen... when I check to see what the enemy was running it's always BT or snb. Also using it for the mosin kills quest is great because of the damage. Dont sleep on PS!
Or keep running all the higher pen ammos and I'll wack ya with that ps right into ur thorax :) thanks in advance
It can’t 1 tap level 4 anymore. With the new ballistics and armor absorbing some damage it’ll only 1 tap if it fragments. That is why it’s lowered
@@Rengawr Thanks for the reply! You're a legend! :)
Didn't know it couldn't one tap 4 anymore, interesting. I still love it tho hehe for me it's been one of my fav rounds this wipe
I kinda hope they add that weird ass fucking revolver that shoots PS12B (RSh-12, yes, really, that's a thing, apparently designed to be used with riot shields)
I've been using luger CCI all wipe, no recoil increase with decent damage is nice.
AS VAL ammo is very good for spamming semi-auto. It basically have no recoil in this mode and you don't care about heat on semi. SP-5 for B and all over is for A, otherwise it is not worth it to shoot PBP clone from gun that costs 100k base and it works only on semi.
Hey great video any update for this kind of ammo for this wipe? subbing
in eft the minus recoil does not affect horizontal recoil at all - only the vertical recoil. you are welcome
thats crazy you have so many hours and have seen that little of 7N40. Ive got like 260 raids this wipe and have about 480 in my stash currently!
I legit just never find it not even in like loose 60 round mags
AMMO TIER LIST, LETS GOOOOO
Do your have your game settings posted anywhere? I really like how your game looks in previous vids.
In my discord
@@Rengawr thanks!
Glad I watched this vid always thought 45 fun was trash so never tried it
9mm pst - i use it while ratting on map f.e. yesterday i killed a guy with 2 tetriz, mk47 and some tier 4 armor with glock (i was level 13) so yeah it works well when you dont want to lose a lot of money
9mm ap 6.3 - i am more suprised than sad, i think it should have slightly better pen, using mpx or other 9mm smg is completly without any sense just because youll die faster from any meta rifle (untill you load some RIP ammo in your mags and spray chads in legs)
PBP is insane. One tap potential in very high ergo and very silent pistols and SMGs.
As a stm9 user ap63 has underperformed this wipe used to kill chads but has gone downhill I have like 1000 rounds of it and ima be making it into 45ap
STM was so fun last wipe bro :( i used to slap an ACOG on it for shits and giggles and rapid fire snipe people because it has like 25 recoil. but AP 6 feels like I'm literally poking someone with my fingers this wipe. .45 AP failed me last night too. I was using a UMP and i got hit count 7 on a guy with a PACA and a wheelie shotty but with people wearing korunds I 3-4 tap them. pistol ammo is a hit or miss this wipe :/ shame bc I love me an SMG.
@@CeizoBro been slapping with 193 p90. I feel like it's a laser at cqc and mid range. Definitely amazing at dorms on customs or interchange.
@@JH-fd9xt i honestly had no idea about that round at all until i watched the whole video. i heard him talk about 193 and was like DAYUM! im probably gonna try it out today
Mostly agree except on BS. Yea 5.45 is kinda overall soft esp 7n39 but unless there’s a bug BS is not failing to 1 tap head unless over extreme distance (check the ballistics page). Also, it can be had at level 26 which is a bit early for lvl 5 ammo.
I have people shoot me with BS in the head 4-5 times a week and I don’t die. Armor absorbs damage homie. When it goes through a helmet it usually won’t have enough damage to 1 tap
@@Rengawr While this is true about catching some armor, I’m struggling imagining the fights the people that parrot this are getting into. Get caught out and sniped cold? Yea I got it, shot in the side of the head and it plays out as you say. But after that first shot we’re both looking at each other trying to send the other to the head/eyes party. You getting your bell rung 4 or 5 times a week…even if you can confirm BS with a kill every time I’m now questioning your positioning. No hate, like your content.
content machine
Bastion helmets are fucking insane right now. It tanked a 762 bp and m62 yesterday
Its the same as any other class 4 ricochet: high helmet 🤔
@@alexisXcore93 He prob had the extra lvl 6 armor
Don't factor in, like a lot ? I don't see it in these charts. I mean, you don't shoot buckshot past 50m, which is most likely the same for a few ammo
Tarkov is a joint venture between tech and pharmaceutical companies to sell more keyboards and antidepressants
This made me laugh ngl
Nice video bro gg
Flechettes are crazy I caught two bodies with them the other day on interchange
Came here to say, M855A1 does NOT bounce off ulachs. It one taps up to 250 metres consistently. It is the one major factor that causes me to use 5.56.
M855A1 is pretty meta against lvl 4 armour.
Exactly. 98.5% chance to pen. He’s prob getting it mixed with m856a1
I buy .45 AP with SB193 together from peacekeeper, I don't get why SB193 got a penalty for availability while the .45AP didn't, I seem to have about the same amount in my stash
Great video!
What about weapon tierlist?
Possibly in the future
Man, I hate BS this wipe. It used to be godly, now I have to shoot scavs in the head TWICE to down them. I feel it is so similar to igolnik because it just has no ability to one tap. 545 & 556 are such a bummer this wipe.
7.62x54R PS being C tier is way too low, easily an A tier round with how easy it is to find. And can 1 tap the chest through T4 if youre up close and man the SVD has been wicked this wipe up close. And honestly can run through armor like you wouldnt believe
It can't 1 tap through class 4 due to damage reduction when penning. It can one tap class 3 fairly often though
That's what I'm saying man! PS is the way to go with the svd!
Tldr, use 762 bp or m61
5.45 and 5.56, you're spot on, this is not the wipe to be using those if you can avoid it, they just feel so weak.
I started respecting AP-20 after being 1-shotted to the thorax wearing full durability class 4 armor from over 100 yards away.
7.62 BP>every thing else
Same meta like last wipe
45fmj is so good for my budget ump build.
My mans forgot rating 8.5 Magnum Buck. This round is so insane
Rengarw that type of guy that thinks that if you run Shotguns or Kedr-B on Labs you automaticaly have "gear fear" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The fact you don't have 9x18mm on this list SP7 alone for 9x18mm is amazing.
Kedr is for people who got gear fear ma boi
@@Rengawr why do you have to call me out like that maaaane
@@StaffRecordPlayer watch my gear fear guide :)
@@Rengawr I did dude, very solid advice. still I cant get rid of fear of getting into pvp or even pmc raids. needs more training or a change in mindset I guess
I use 9x18mm a lot with my Kedrs, mainly in Factory. I also have GearFearitis! (I just love to kill geared PMCs with kedr)
366 bolty is my favorite gun especially with the ap ammo.
9x39 is literally the 2nd best caliber behind .308 rn no cap.
ik i was surprised it was put into C??
edit: its because of the prices, understandable
As a m61 chad I agree with this list :)
got 2 tapped by PS12B wearing killa armor that shit is crazy
My friend tanked a point blank ap sx headshot and i got headshot by a raider using it with no helmet and only lost 20 head hp
5.56 underrated this wipe ak 101 ftw
i think m80 is S tier because its dirt cheap, 80 dmg 41 pen and can be bought from lvl 2 peacekeeper
Nah, it's not S tier, that would make it on par with M61/M61/M993 and M80 is simply not as good as them. M80 is good at A tier.
I think the only reason it's not S tier is because the other 3 rounds are noticeably much better than it
This
M80,45 FMJ, and .366 AP have carried this wipe.
BP must be playing golf or something
BP is more common than covid. I don't have to go out of my way to find it. I haven't bought a single round of BP this wipe. So yea, its playing golf in my stash.
how would you rate the other ash 12 rounds??
if it's not in the video, it's in the trash bin.
Not worth mentioning cause they don’t perform well enough
W keep up the good work
Where would you rate the 338 lapua ammos?
M80 is Peacekeeper 3 now
Wow bro pst in f huh didnt realize it was so trash. I gotta try 9 mil again
an actually good ammo tier list no bullshit and you left out the useless ammos great video
Yeah ap20 does have trouble going through armor when I’m using it. But I can’t even count the amount of fucking times I’ve had class 4 armor on and I’m full health and I’ve been fucking one tapped and they were using ap20
I feel that
Interestingly im a shoreline resort runner and i rarely got a problem killimg mutant player with my 5.45 guns (i use igo and bs due to closerange...) my altyn mostly bounces bp but i nearly allways die by a headshot by an m855a1 user
IDK man I know you know more, but you are saying that the issue with 9mmAP is that is not that easily aviable therefore a D tier, then say that 7n40 is S tier even if its hard to find. I think you should try to leave rarity outside of the ranking because its a big variable. I still loved the insights on each round, lots of info I didnt know about, and definitely Im going to try US rn
My first wipe and i mostly use ap 6.3 in vector, it is just fun. Cheap and fast craft, bp craft is expensive and long and thr gun is also more expensive. I really enjoy vector with ap 6.3
Idk 6.3 is honestly just not a good round overall. Imo people who use 9mil should learn to move on to better caliber they’d get more kills
I think cost is still a big point to keep in mind, almost all other good rounds of bigger calibers are going to cost way way more than 9mm ap, customizing the gun even more, but almost all smgs are good enought with a handgrip and muzzle break
So any type of ammo that is not on this list I should consider as F tier?
I consider it not worth mentioning
Flea be going up after this RIP
I mostly agree and where I don’t agree I at least understand your argument and just slightly disagree, but idk why… I loved m855 this wipe for whatever reason. I’ve gotten multiple SBIH head taps with it this wipe outta nowhere
That’s fair a lot of opinion / personal experience in a tier list not everyone will agree!
@@Rengawr I mean I agree with you m855 is shit, but it oddly worked pretty well when I used it from day 1 of wipe to around a month and a half into wipe. Once I got 56a1 I was using more m4’s tho and even tho I love them to death, I really started noticing how sometimes 5.56 feels solid and other times it feels like complete trash
@@Rengawr only one I’d say I flat out disagree is with PST only cuz your argument against it where you say you might as well just use another guns is spot on, but when I do wanna use 9mm it seems to work well for me even against decently geared players, could also just be nostalgia from last couple wipes shredding people with it with mp5’s on customs
300 m62 is decent i melted a dude in a hexgrid with it
45 rip needs to be there as an a tier.
missed 12g .50 bmg and all .338 lapua
with over heating on the val using good ammo honestly dont full auto, just semi 2/1 tap everyone
For sb193 and 190 you're forgetting to mention bullet velocity. 193 is literally less than half and that's a big nono from me
i mean its a p90 how far are you shooting with it smgs have terrible MOA
@@Rengawr still you cant say youve never felt the effects of subsonic rounds like 9x39